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onewingedmoogle
Profile Joined June 2009
Canada434 Posts
November 13 2010 06:11 GMT
#21
whats the team balance mean?
Gescom
Profile Joined February 2010
Canada3510 Posts
November 13 2010 06:20 GMT
#22
It's the the number of wins by each race for each team.

ie. SKT1 wins are 50% Protoss, 36% Zerg, 14% Terran from their players.
Jaedong Hyuk || Bisu Jangbi || Fantasy Flash
Taosu
Profile Joined August 2010
Ukraine1074 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-11-13 06:35:40
November 13 2010 06:32 GMT
#23
On November 13 2010 15:11 onewingedmoogle wrote:
whats the team balance mean?

On November 13 2010 15:20 Gescom wrote:
It's the the number of wins by each race for each team.

ie. SKT1 wins are 50% Protoss, 36% Zerg, 14% Terran from their players.

No, it's not that. I think I put the team balance too close to wins by race chart. It's not about the races, it's about the players. Please see this thread for the team balance calculation.
Also fan of Hyuk, Pure, free, Action, Stats, Leta, Horang2, Snow, Flying, Shuttle, Movie, Paralyze
ShadeR
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
Australia7535 Posts
November 13 2010 08:43 GMT
#24
Bisu 8-0
Turn 6-0
Princess 2-0
Trap 1-0

These 4 are undefeated thus far though only Bisu and Turn are notable.
Gummy
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States2180 Posts
November 13 2010 09:00 GMT
#25
You can see from the shallow slope of Woongjin's wins how deep a team they are!
You can see from the steep slope of Jaedong Oz how undeep a team they are!
¯\_(ツ)_/¯ There are three kinds of people in the world: those who can count and those who can't.
onewingedmoogle
Profile Joined June 2009
Canada434 Posts
November 13 2010 09:01 GMT
#26
thanks for explanation, awesome graphs btw
BloodDrunK
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
Bangladesh2767 Posts
November 13 2010 09:11 GMT
#27
love all the info. Bisu is 8-0. Turn is 6-0 while Jangbi is 0-7.

You have the power to create your own destiny.
Zona
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
40426 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-11-13 09:18:07
November 13 2010 09:12 GMT
#28
I like the way you presented the information, especially the individual player win-loss record. Good stuff.

I still think the "team balance" statistic is kind of dubious though.

Hmm, it also makes it easy to see the breadth of players that are being sent out.

STX is sending out largest variety of players (10)...too bad 3 of them are winless, so it's not really helping. MBC with the least, sending out only 6 different players...only 2 of them with winning records, what a tragedy.
"If you try responding to those absurd posts every day, you become more damaged. So I pay no attention to them at all." Jung Myung Hoon (aka Fantasy), as translated by Kimoleon
konadora *
Profile Blog Joined February 2009
Singapore66358 Posts
November 13 2010 09:16 GMT
#29
holy shit bisu
POGGERS
Taosu
Profile Joined August 2010
Ukraine1074 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-11-13 09:45:43
November 13 2010 09:44 GMT
#30
On November 13 2010 18:12 Zona wrote:
I like the way you presented the information, especially the individual player win-loss record. Good stuff.

Thank you!
On November 13 2010 18:12 Zona wrote:
STX is sending out largest variety of players (10)...too bad 3 of them are winless, so it's not really helping.

It's 11 players. :D
Also fan of Hyuk, Pure, free, Action, Stats, Leta, Horang2, Snow, Flying, Shuttle, Movie, Paralyze
OpticalShot
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
Canada6330 Posts
November 13 2010 09:46 GMT
#31
Great work.

Sad to see lots of black bars under Khan's big 3... and yes Bisu is pwning this up lol
[TLMS] REBOOT
Ozarugold
Profile Blog Joined February 2008
2716 Posts
November 13 2010 10:19 GMT
#32
Lol~

Jangbi is like the reverse of Bisu~
this is my quote.
Ryo
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
8787 Posts
November 13 2010 10:24 GMT
#33
On November 13 2010 18:12 Zona wrote:
MBC with the least, sending out only 6 different players...only 2 of them with winning records, what a tragedy.


There are effectively only 6 players on the team. But yet they're level with KT and Wemade. Not a bad position.
영원히 엠비씨게임 히어로 팬.
HwangjaeTerran
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
Finland5967 Posts
November 13 2010 11:15 GMT
#34
Lol Jangbi going strong!
https://steamcommunity.com/id/*tlusernamehere*/
pred470r
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Bulgaria3265 Posts
November 13 2010 11:15 GMT
#35
Nice graphs, thank you for the time you put in to create it.
Simplistik
Profile Blog Joined November 2007
2114 Posts
November 13 2010 11:54 GMT
#36
On November 13 2010 18:00 Gummy wrote:
You can see from the shallow slope of Woongjin's wins how deep a team they are!
You can see from the steep slope of Jaedong Oz how undeep a team they are!

Unfortunately a team with no wins whatsoever would qualify as a "deep" team this way, although it is just in deep trouble.
Dear BW Gods, it IS now autumn, so...
MisteR
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
Netherlands595 Posts
November 13 2010 13:21 GMT
#37
Very good. It really shows me things I hadn't realised before. Soo is the second player on SKT... Who could've guessed?
Nal_Ra/Much/Horang2/Flying fighting!~
TheNessman
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
United States4158 Posts
November 13 2010 13:32 GMT
#38
HORANG2. 2nd best player on hite entus. Hydra, also doing good. Thats whatsup.

Jaedong is still doing well!!
Good Graphs man. Thanks!
~~! youtube.com/xmungam1 !~~
Crissaegrim
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
2947 Posts
November 13 2010 13:35 GMT
#39
Is this the real balance of starcraft? That it lies in the maps? I mean last season Bisu was slumping pretty hard and here he goes 8-0?

Im pretty sure he hasnt been to thailand in a while lol. But it's a good graph mate, thanks.
Yodo
Profile Joined March 2010
Russian Federation327 Posts
November 13 2010 13:58 GMT
#40
Ok, so
From top-4 teams there are 3 toss oriented + Stars with strong zerg lineup (with Free and Really they are all races around actually).
P-teams followed by terran-oriented teams which are on 5, 6 and 7 places

Khan is full of slumping tosses so they on 8.
JaedongOZ and Ace are too specific and should be excluded from analyze.

Conclusion: Tosses are imba. Zergs doing fine. Flash and Turn - last terrans standing.
Black days for T players T_T
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