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Why STX SouL will win the 2010-2011 Proleague

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mustaju
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Estonia4504 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-11-10 07:28:39
November 09 2010 02:51 GMT
#1
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Yes, you read that correctly. And I’m not joking around either. STX has always had big aspirations, and this time, they should be no lower than winning the entire league. Remember the STX of the previous season, 2009-2010? They are back with a vengeance, and they are about to shatter the delusions of those who are simply unable to compete. Already I hear the sounds of those mocking the choking tendency of STX, when it actually comes down to it. It is true, STX does not have any major titles, or many individual league wins. But it always had the potential to, and now we challenge fate once more, for the throne is rightfully ours.

STX has something that noone else does - it is a team like no other, and this is obviously because they have a lineup like no other. When they win, they win together, when they lose, they do so together, as a team. That’s the STX moto, as recently stated by Shuttle. And in a bo7, these are not empty words. The number of decent players is more important than having a few good players. STX has a team full of both good and decent players, and this is why they are more deserving to win the title.





Protoss:
Victory after Victory.

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He's tall as well!

(P)Kal

(P)Kal is probably the best Protoss in the league at the moment. The pretenders have been struck down, and now he could easily be the one to finally usher in this new golden era of Protoss. He gave both Jaedong and Flash a great fight, and shows potential to beat them time and again. For Proleague, such a player is invaluable, and while other jealous teams might accuse him of inconsistency, he doesn’t have as glaring errors in PvZ as Best or a dreadful PvT such as Bisu. And when you train with a PvP expert like Shuttle, you can beat any Protoss. Smugtoss has a reason to be satisfied with himself, and the way things are going, (T)Flash and (Z)Jaedong will fall before him eventually.

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Shuttle is looking right.at.you.

(P)Shuttle

(P)Shuttle is more matchup orientated, but in 2010, a PvP sniper is invaluable. Furthermore - it’s not like he’s bad at the other matchups! You’ll see a lot more of Shuttle this season, and I wouldn’t be surprised in the slightest if he advanced in the individual leagues as well. May god have mercy on Shuttle’s opponents, because (P)Shuttle surely won’t.

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Insert a meme that is not funny anymore here.

(P)Trap

(P)Trap is the ultimate proof of the willingness of STX to invest into the future. Sure, he hasn’t been too succesful, but look at his only game in this season and tell me the kid doesn’t have promise. To make things even better, his opponent was (P)M18M, a very good PvP-er out of the Samsung stock, and he was on the backfoot for a lot of the game. STX’s Protoss lineup looks great.




Terran:
The Pride of War.

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Words aren't necessary.

(T)Bogus
, (T)FrOzean and (T)Classic

STX’s Terran line has had a lot of difficulty over the years, but they form a strong backbone now. With (T)Classic on the team and players like (T)FrOzean and (T)Bogus to pad out the lineup, STX has a lot of Terran playstyles at it’s disposal.
It’s true, none of them are spectacular, but STX is no longer defenseless against Terrans. The last time SKT underestimated STX, Bogus gave Fantasy a well-deserved beating, and Classic is at least solid in every matchup, well showcased by his performance in the individual leagues. FrOzean is arguably the most shaky of the bunch, but he has shown vast improvement compared to the previous season, and with his qualification into the individual leagues, the future looks even more hopeful.
Having 3 so-so Terrans is a lot better than what Stars or SKT have now, and if one should slump, the others (or (T)Last, who can be played to even further deepen the lineup) will pick up so that the weak player has time to recover. If (T)Fantasy, (T)Flash or (T)Really( who already does slump) play badly for a few weeks, their teams strategic arsenal is drastically reduced. These teams have dug their own grave, and STX SouL will waste little time mourning.




Zerg:
Overcome all.

With the possible exception of Woongjin Stars, STX has the most varied Zerg line of all the teams: (Z)Calm, (Z)hero, (Z)Modesty, (Z)hyvaa and (Z)yCh[z-zOne].

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Calm is even cuter than flamewheel. :3 But he is as deadly as they come.

(Z)Calm

Brain Zerg is about to come back, and his demolishings of Tyson and the Wildcard victory in the OSL are but testaments to his re-ascendance. This is not something new! If we look at the history of STX July was basically considered history before joining STX, and he won an OSL after that. Calm will follow in his footsteps, and lead STX to victory, possibly snatching an individual league title on the way. He still excells at smart, strategic play, and if he regains his confidence, there will be no stopping him.

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He's all messy from moving at 500 APM.

(Z)by.hero

What Calm might be considered to lack, hero has plenty. The 500 APM monster-Zerg is well-known for his aggressive play, and he’s often considered to be the mantle-bearer of the great July himself. By.hero is not afraid of anyone, and he's definitely someone everyone but the S-class looks out for in the Proleague. This Zerg duo compliments itself perfectly, and STX has even more aces up their sleeve.

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NeverGG has informed TL that Modesty makes one hell of a hydralisk impression.

(Z)Modesty

Modesty needs to redeem himself, but he still has virtues. His ZvZ ELO is monstrously high for a reason - only Jaedong can be expected to micro mutas and zerglings like Modesty has done in the past! The guy sniped Jaedong every once in a while, for Christs sake, and not many other Zergs can boast that feat. If his slump ends, (hopefully his other matchups will improve as well), Stars and JaedongOZ will have lots of trouble.

Last, but not least, we have (Z)hyvaa and the less known (Z)yCh[z-zOne] (Even his name sounds badass!)
Should any of the above Zergs slump, STX has still 2 to choose from, or add an extra layer of variety to STX’s pool of strategy. While hyvaa is inconsistent and yCh is as wet behind the ears as they come, they have performed better in the individual leagues than Best , and underestimating either of them in Proleague might be any teams fatal mistake. Remember Flash vs. hyvaa on Match Point? Hyvaa has the brains to pull off something incredible every once in a while, and they are not bad compared to other races choices as 6-th players. Knowing the culture of STX, yCh will have a chance to prove himself as well, and woe to his opponents when he does.




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Why settle for the merely effeminate when you can have the real deal?

In summary:


Even without any strong Ace player, STX would be a strong contender in this years Proleague, and now that Calm and Kal are finally returning back to form, there is no way any team is stopping us.


This is the team that gives new players and old players chances time and again, instead of relying on the old guard no matter what. This is the team with the biggest variety, yet a strong sense of unity. This is the team that will either live or die together. These are the true qualities of champions. STX will finally triumph in 2011.

Proleague Gold, here we come.


Disclaimer: This is my 1000-th post. It wouldn't have been possible without Carnivorous Sheep. STX fighting!
Edit: You might also want to check out ideas' thread from just half a year ago. I found it to be an awesome read, and hope I can hype STX better in the future.
WriterBrows somewhat high. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ndFysO2JunE
awu25
Profile Joined April 2010
United States2003 Posts
November 09 2010 02:58 GMT
#2
not to mention they have the best female progamer on their team
they'll send her out to play mind games with the opponent
Lightwip
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States5497 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-11-09 03:08:28
November 09 2010 03:06 GMT
#3
I like to think that Kal and this team are alike in one way: they always show promise, and then they just fall short of an achievement.
And how can STX win proleague when SKT will?
Also, SKT masters cup.
Edit: Misguided subtle Bisu bashing? That's not very nice. And you're really going to regret it tomorrow.
If you are not Bisu, chances are I hate you.
LunarDestiny
Profile Blog Joined August 2008
United States4177 Posts
November 09 2010 03:10 GMT
#4
I never seen that picture of Tossgirl before...
mustaju
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Estonia4504 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-11-09 03:12:48
November 09 2010 03:12 GMT
#5
On November 09 2010 12:06 Lightwip wrote:
I like to think that Kal and this team are alike in one way: they always show promise, and then they just fall short of an achievement.
And how can STX win proleague when SKT will?
Also, SKT masters cup.
Edit: Misguided subtle Bisu bashing? That's not very nice. And you're really going to regret it tomorrow.

BRING.IT.ON.
WriterBrows somewhat high. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ndFysO2JunE
conroe
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
11 Posts
November 09 2010 03:12 GMT
#6
Last time I checked, pigs still couldn't fly

But I do think STX is doing better this year despite their record, Kal is currently 4-1 and looks to be in very good form, it's just clam that still makes me face palm at times.
Lightwip
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States5497 Posts
November 09 2010 03:15 GMT
#7
On November 09 2010 12:12 mustaju wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 09 2010 12:06 Lightwip wrote:
I like to think that Kal and this team are alike in one way: they always show promise, and then they just fall short of an achievement.
And how can STX win proleague when SKT will?
Also, SKT masters cup.
Edit: Misguided subtle Bisu bashing? That's not very nice. And you're really going to regret it tomorrow.

BRING.IT.ON.

ENRICH THE MIND
Your stars may have no weak matchups(neither does non-slump Bisu btw), but they still have 1 problem: they lack S class skill.
If you are not Bisu, chances are I hate you.
Milkis
Profile Blog Joined January 2010
5003 Posts
November 09 2010 03:17 GMT
#8
On November 09 2010 12:15 Lightwip wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 09 2010 12:12 mustaju wrote:
On November 09 2010 12:06 Lightwip wrote:
I like to think that Kal and this team are alike in one way: they always show promise, and then they just fall short of an achievement.
And how can STX win proleague when SKT will?
Also, SKT masters cup.
Edit: Misguided subtle Bisu bashing? That's not very nice. And you're really going to regret it tomorrow.

BRING.IT.ON.

ENRICH THE MIND
Your stars may have no weak matchups(neither does non-slump Bisu btw), but they still have 1 problem: they lack S class skill.


SKT is filled with A+ players, not S class either so i dunno what you're on lol

if Kal "lacks S class skill" then there is no way in hell Fantasy or Bisu is S class lol
mustaju
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Estonia4504 Posts
November 09 2010 03:17 GMT
#9
On November 09 2010 12:15 Lightwip wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 09 2010 12:12 mustaju wrote:
On November 09 2010 12:06 Lightwip wrote:
I like to think that Kal and this team are alike in one way: they always show promise, and then they just fall short of an achievement.
And how can STX win proleague when SKT will?
Also, SKT masters cup.
Edit: Misguided subtle Bisu bashing? That's not very nice. And you're really going to regret it tomorrow.

BRING.IT.ON.

ENRICH THE MIND
Your stars may have no weak matchups(neither does non-slump Bisu btw), but they still have 1 problem: they lack S class skill.

Empty words, for we will triumph.
WriterBrows somewhat high. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ndFysO2JunE
CCa1ss1e
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
Canada3231 Posts
November 09 2010 03:22 GMT
#10
GooJila truly pwns, I'll give you that.

SKT1 is doing very well though.

xD
~ The Ultimate Weapon
pvzvt
Profile Joined October 2009
Israel2097 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-11-09 03:26:13
November 09 2010 03:23 GMT
#11
when was the last time kal took a game from jaedong or flash?
no really just wondering
(which was not part of a bo3 or 5 ) since i'm pretty sure he cant win those vs s class
i say we dust off and nuke it from orbit
mustaju
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Estonia4504 Posts
November 09 2010 03:24 GMT
#12
On November 09 2010 12:23 pvzvt wrote:
when was the last time kal took a game from jaedong or flash?
no really just wondering

In WCG korea. He also destroyed Effort, in order to prove his badassitude.
WriterBrows somewhat high. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ndFysO2JunE
pvzvt
Profile Joined October 2009
Israel2097 Posts
November 09 2010 03:28 GMT
#13
On November 09 2010 12:24 mustaju wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 09 2010 12:23 pvzvt wrote:
when was the last time kal took a game from jaedong or flash?
no really just wondering

In WCG korea. He also destroyed Effort, in order to prove his badassitude.

effort was an s class not trying to take anything from kal but ,,
it does seem weird he quit shortly after guess he felt he finished his goal and his heart wasnt fully commited to sc,,,
i say we dust off and nuke it from orbit
mierin
Profile Joined August 2010
United States4943 Posts
November 09 2010 03:33 GMT
#14
Calm fighting! <3
JD, Stork, Calm, Hyuk Fighting!
Lightwip
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States5497 Posts
November 09 2010 03:36 GMT
#15
On November 09 2010 12:24 mustaju wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 09 2010 12:23 pvzvt wrote:
when was the last time kal took a game from jaedong or flash?
no really just wondering

In WCG korea. He also destroyed Effort, in order to prove his badassitude.

As stated earlier, Effort was already out of it by then. But his series vs Flash is exactly what I'm talking about: shows potential but in the end falls short of accomplishing anything.
If you are not Bisu, chances are I hate you.
hacklebeast
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States5090 Posts
November 09 2010 03:40 GMT
#16
First point "our protoss player is tall"

you make a strong argument sir.
Protoss: Best, Paralyze, Jangbi, Nal_Ra || Terran: Oov, Boxer, Fantasy, Hiya|| Zerg: Yellow, Zero
Carnivorous Sheep
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
Baa?21243 Posts
November 09 2010 03:40 GMT
#17
TranslatorBaa!
Doraemon
Profile Blog Joined January 2010
Australia14949 Posts
November 09 2010 03:48 GMT
#18
you forgot to add that STX has the best uniform (in your opinion of course) haha

oh, tossgirl is damn fine
Do yourself a favour and just STFU
seRapH
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States9756 Posts
November 09 2010 03:53 GMT
#19
i was like meh throughout most of it.

then i saw the tossgirl pic. 5/5!
boomer hands
mustaju
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Estonia4504 Posts
November 09 2010 03:54 GMT
#20
On November 09 2010 12:40 hacklebeast wrote:
First point "our protoss player is tall"

you make a strong argument sir.

You make an even better strawman, so I'm happy to return the compliment.
WriterBrows somewhat high. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ndFysO2JunE
IntoTheEmo
Profile Joined February 2009
Singapore1169 Posts
November 09 2010 03:58 GMT
#21
Was gonna say something mean about losing to JaedongOZ but mmm I got distracted by tossgirl ><

On a serious note STX can deliver a beating when they want to. Though I'm a rabid JD fanboy I have a lot of respect for the STX zergs Can always appreciate a good Calm game~
MMOs kill APM. However Proleague plus BW Proscene music increase APM -> 100. 이제동 Fighting! Highest ranked Jaedong owner in FPL10 = clearly #1 Jaedong fan~! <- Keeping my sig from 2010
aimaimaim
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
Philippines2167 Posts
November 09 2010 04:02 GMT
#22
To the finals then ..
Religion is a dying idea .. || 'E-sport' outside Korea are nerds who wants to feel like rockstars. || I'm not gonna fuck with trolls on General Forum ever again .. FUCK!
pvzvt
Profile Joined October 2009
Israel2097 Posts
November 09 2010 04:04 GMT
#23
On November 09 2010 12:58 IntoTheEmo wrote:
Was gonna say something mean about losing to JaedongOZ but mmm I got distracted by tossgirl ><

On a serious note STX can deliver a beating when they want to. Though I'm a rabid JD fanboy I have a lot of respect for the STX zergs Can always appreciate a good Calm game~

i'll join that declaration
shuttle and hero are awesome
and stx has a cool uniform
i say we dust off and nuke it from orbit
jgju
Profile Blog Joined January 2010
United States454 Posts
November 09 2010 05:23 GMT
#24
STX fighting!

Best team in the world, and on top of that, best fans in the world
"For you biting zealots, here's a quote" - Lauryn Hill
vectorix108
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
United States4633 Posts
November 09 2010 05:23 GMT
#25
oh god that picture of tossgirl just made the entire post much much better
Aka XephyR/Shaneyesss
pinkranger15
Profile Joined June 2010
Philippines1597 Posts
November 09 2010 05:33 GMT
#26
there is just no way stx is going to win. they have to face KT or even SKT for them to have the trophy.
yoyo!
mustaju
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Estonia4504 Posts
November 09 2010 05:37 GMT
#27
On November 09 2010 14:33 pinkranger15 wrote:
there is just no way stx is going to win. they have to face KT or even SKT for them to have the trophy.

You were saying?
WriterBrows somewhat high. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ndFysO2JunE
ffreakk
Profile Joined September 2010
Singapore2155 Posts
November 09 2010 05:56 GMT
#28
Hes saying that we ma stomp you this Saturday, and he is right!!! :>

Well i wouldnt mind a Tossgirl game though :x
Look. Only Forward. See. Only Victory.
thopol
Profile Blog Joined May 2008
Japan4560 Posts
November 09 2010 11:02 GMT
#29
Yo, I know I said you were dead to me after your naysayer predictions, but I forgave you man. You didn't need to give me this. ;p

I'm totally on board with your overall prediction about taking it home for the first time this season. Our Terran line is pretty much unprecedented. Bogus has been showing as much talent as he's got nose. Plus we got the up and coming Classic.

Zerg and Protoss have always been deep for us. We've got a pair of aces and about a half dozen kings. If that's not a winning hand you're playing some conventional game.
Metalwing
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Turkey1038 Posts
November 09 2010 11:34 GMT
#30
+ Show Spoiler +
http://media.fragster.de/site-media/upload/images/admingallery/20070317194254789_large.jpg


Nuclear Launch Detected..
#1 CheckPrime fan // Terrans gonna Terran
nimrodel
Profile Joined October 2009
9 Posts
November 09 2010 11:38 GMT
#31
it is imminent

kim yoon hwan shall rise again
traveller of the windy glens, why hast thou left my ear so soon?
mustaju
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Estonia4504 Posts
November 09 2010 11:39 GMT
#32
On November 09 2010 20:02 thopol wrote:
Yo, I know I said you were dead to me after your naysayer predictions, but I forgave you man. You didn't need to give me this. ;p


I already made the decision to make something like this my 1000th post when I hadn't even read your post. It did give me extra motivation, I must admit.

thopol wrote:
I'm totally on board with your overall prediction about taking it home for the first time this season. Our Terran line is pretty much unprecedented. Bogus has been showing as much talent as he's got nose. Plus we got the up and coming Classic.

Zerg and Protoss have always been deep for us. We've got a pair of aces and about a half dozen kings. If that's not a winning hand you're playing some conventional game.


Can't disagree with this. Hoping we can give SKT a good fight.
WriterBrows somewhat high. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ndFysO2JunE
MisteR
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
Netherlands595 Posts
November 09 2010 11:48 GMT
#33
Well, uh... Good luck with that. STX was third last season? So on results and player quality alone, they're a real contender. On winning games when it matters and on line up selection they'll have to step it up though.
Nal_Ra/Much/Horang2/Flying fighting!~
catabowl
Profile Joined November 2009
United States815 Posts
November 09 2010 11:58 GMT
#34
If they couldn't win by bribing everyone with chicken, you expect them to win without it?

I may not be a genius... but the playoffs against SKT were a BO7 and SKT won both.

Good luck STX. May 4th place be kind to thee.

And whoever said Bisu and Fantasy are not S-Class... Are u joking? You talk about Kal giving Flash good games... I think the majority of people here would say the MSL semi-finals 5 game set between Flash and Fantasy was the best 5 game set of the year.
Jung! Myung! Hoooooooooooooooooon! #TeamPolt
MinoMino
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Norway1103 Posts
November 09 2010 12:05 GMT
#35
Yes, bring it, SKT! STX fighting!
Blah.
Caos2
Profile Joined November 2008
United States1728 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-11-09 12:10:05
November 09 2010 12:08 GMT
#36
STX may be beaten time and time again but we'll NEVER fall!
StarCraft of Unbelievable Legend!!!!

Edit: In a serious note, STX got to 3rd place even though July retired and Hwasin, who I believe was the team captain, was involved in the match fixing scandal.
ZeaL.
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States5955 Posts
November 09 2010 13:07 GMT
#37
On November 09 2010 20:58 catabowl wrote:
If they couldn't win by bribing everyone with chicken, you expect them to win without it?

I may not be a genius... but the playoffs against SKT were a BO7 and SKT won both.

Good luck STX. May 4th place be kind to thee.

And whoever said Bisu and Fantasy are not S-Class... Are u joking? You talk about Kal giving Flash good games... I think the majority of people here would say the MSL semi-finals 5 game set between Flash and Fantasy was the best 5 game set of the year.


STX's R5 performance was freaking terrible =/. They decided to have a very strong start and ended up slumping super hard right before playoffs. I'm hoping this year the same thing doesn't happen.
vOdToasT
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Sweden2870 Posts
November 09 2010 13:35 GMT
#38
Wasn't STX Soul the team that a mother sent an angry letter to, telling them to stop failing?
If it's stupid but it works, then it's not stupid* (*Or: You are stupid for losing to it, and gotta git gud)
Caos2
Profile Joined November 2008
United States1728 Posts
November 09 2010 14:06 GMT
#39
On November 09 2010 22:35 vOdToasT wrote:
Wasn't STX Soul the team that a mother sent an angry letter to, telling them to stop failing?

Yeap,(T)FrOzean's mom.

It's an important thread for us STX-nut jobs, most of us never knew that Soul actually means STARCRAFT OF UNBELIEVABLE LEGEND!!!
On July 14 2010 06:04 Carnivorous Sheep wrote:
I support...Starcraft of Unbelievable Legend...?

I...I don't know what to think...D=
Shuray
Profile Joined July 2008
Brazil642 Posts
November 09 2010 14:07 GMT
#40
Awesome writeup sir, we're so winning this Proleague!
Lightwip
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States5497 Posts
November 09 2010 14:12 GMT
#41
It's called starcraft of unbelievable legend because no one will believe that they are legend(because people have a little more sense than that).
Props for making one though. I hope all the other teams do one, even if they are just lies.
If you are not Bisu, chances are I hate you.
ZeaL.
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States5955 Posts
November 09 2010 15:48 GMT
#42
On November 09 2010 23:12 Lightwip wrote:
It's called starcraft of unbelievable legend because no one will believe that they are legend(because people have a little more sense than that).
Props for making one though. I hope all the other teams do one, even if they are just lies.


Them's fightin words. We'll see you on Saturday.
mustaju
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Estonia4504 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-11-09 17:24:11
November 09 2010 16:22 GMT
#43
On November 09 2010 23:12 Lightwip wrote:
Props for making one though. I hope all the other teams do one, even if they are just lies.

Thanks for the props. As for the "lies," we'll see about that on Saturday.
You better hope your teams game isn't as bad as its fashion sense.
WriterBrows somewhat high. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ndFysO2JunE
BisuDagger
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
Bisutopia19239 Posts
November 09 2010 16:33 GMT
#44
Oh boi. STX talking about fashion sense. That's laughable. But u can choose ur battles. I choose to say skt is undefeated. I choose to say Fantasy was responsible for beating Clam in the last msl. The league terrorist, Bruce Lee Toss, and the Macro Boss are gonna FBB you all the way home little piggies.
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Ryo
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
8787 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-11-09 17:02:07
November 09 2010 17:01 GMT
#45
Hmm okay, let's see...

Cardigan+"handbag"
[image loading]
[image loading]

vs

Cute but strange orange-tongue sweaters
[image loading]
I'm going to have to say SKT wins this one.

Hopefully on Sunday there will be a Bisu vs Kal rematch or Best vs Kal would be good too.
영원히 엠비씨게임 히어로 팬.
CCa1ss1e
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
Canada3231 Posts
November 09 2010 17:11 GMT
#46
Yeah, I'm sure GooJila + Bisu are eager to faceoff again. Would like to see that matchup again.

~ The Ultimate Weapon
Doughboy
Profile Joined April 2010
United States721 Posts
November 09 2010 17:51 GMT
#47
I'm less inclined to believe this because of R5 of last season. Maybe Classic will help cuteangel and bogus with more practice or something. Also like you've said your LBing has been off so I'm treating your predictions with a grain of salt for now :3.
Estonia hwaiting
"Don't be distracted by the what if's, should'ves, and if onlys. The one thing you choose yourself - THAT is the truth of your universe." Fav T: Sea, Leta, Really Fav P: Free, Snow Fav Z: ZerO, GGplay, Jaedong, Neo.G_Soulkey
slappy
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United States1271 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-11-09 18:11:33
November 09 2010 18:08 GMT
#48
if it was a bo9 format, STX would probly win, but in a bo7 it's a toss up between STX/SKT/KT/Stars

EDIT:buuuuut
+ Show Spoiler +
bisu/skt=6-0
jaedong imba
mustaju
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Estonia4504 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-11-09 18:27:14
November 09 2010 18:26 GMT
#49
On November 10 2010 02:51 Doughboy wrote:
I'm less inclined to believe this because of R5 of last season. Maybe Classic will help cuteangel and bogus with more practice or something. Also like you've said your LBing has been off so I'm treating your predictions with a grain of salt for now :3.
Estonia hwaiting

Upsets happen all the time this season. Seriously, how many have YOU gotten right?
Thanks for the Estonia fighting, though I don't know where that came from.
WriterBrows somewhat high. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ndFysO2JunE
ffreakk
Profile Joined September 2010
Singapore2155 Posts
November 09 2010 18:30 GMT
#50
slappy lies :[ + Show Spoiler +
Bisu is 7-0!!


Seriously though, im quite eager to see this Saturday's game myself. One dollar saying SKT takes it before Ace match, any1?
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Hazard
Profile Joined September 2009
Norway594 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-11-09 19:03:07
November 09 2010 18:53 GMT
#51
Interesting read but I don't agree about SKT Terran line being bad cuz (T)Canata and (T)Ssak (well judging from his current rookie form) are so-so players as well and also Bisu's weakest matchup has same stats like Kal's strongest.
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hitthat
Profile Joined January 2010
Poland2267 Posts
November 09 2010 19:05 GMT
#52
I'm just waiting for SKT Masters Cup to see another epic all-kill. Assuming that cute-but-hilarously-bad-team will manage to get to final at all XD
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renzy
Profile Joined April 2010
Canada781 Posts
November 09 2010 19:06 GMT
#53
Not to mention Bisu man handled Really on Empire of the Sun. We should all agree that Really>Classic, Bogus, and Frozean. lol
Bisu is the man
mustaju
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Estonia4504 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-11-09 19:27:08
November 09 2010 19:16 GMT
#54
On November 10 2010 04:06 renzy wrote:
Not to mention Bisu man handled Really on Empire of the Sun. We should all agree that Really>Classic, Bogus, and Frozean. lol

Judging from win-percentages in matchups, Really's only better than Frozean. And last time Frozean played Bisu, the hairtoss was manhandled himself.
Edited for clarity.
WriterBrows somewhat high. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ndFysO2JunE
renzy
Profile Joined April 2010
Canada781 Posts
November 09 2010 19:26 GMT
#55
On November 10 2010 04:16 mustaju wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 10 2010 04:06 renzy wrote:
Not to mention Bisu man handled Really on Empire of the Sun. We should all agree that Really>Classic, Bogus, and Frozean. lol

Judging from win-percentages in matchups, he's only better than Frozean. And last time Frozean played Bisu, the hairtoss was manhandled himself.


First of all, that was a slumping Bisu. Bisu is almost out of his slump now. Ans what do you mean judging from win-percentages in matchups, he's only better than Frozean? Mind telling me who has a better record than Bisu?
Bisu is the man
mustaju
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Estonia4504 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-11-09 19:29:19
November 09 2010 19:28 GMT
#56
On November 10 2010 04:26 renzy wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 10 2010 04:16 mustaju wrote:
On November 10 2010 04:06 renzy wrote:
Not to mention Bisu man handled Really on Empire of the Sun. We should all agree that Really>Classic, Bogus, and Frozean. lol

Judging from win-percentages in matchups, he's only better than Frozean. And last time Frozean played Bisu, the hairtoss was manhandled himself.


First of all, that was a slumping Bisu. Bisu is almost out of his slump now. Ans what do you mean judging from win-percentages in matchups, he's only better than Frozean? Mind telling me who has a better record than Bisu?

Bisu does have a good record, but I sincerely believe his fans vastly overhype him. Give him some serious PvT opponents and we'll see about his "rise from the ashes". The above segment was about Really.
WriterBrows somewhat high. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ndFysO2JunE
Garaman
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States556 Posts
November 09 2010 19:48 GMT
#57
the only thing that has to happen for STX to win the whole proleague is this:

win first place, and for the winners in the final round, she will bang them =)
Slow Motion
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
United States6960 Posts
November 09 2010 19:51 GMT
#58
Any of you remember the Portland Trailblazers in the mid to late 90's? This is what STX reminds me of. Deep team on paper. Underachievers in reality.
dani_caliKorea
Profile Blog Joined November 2009
730 Posts
November 09 2010 19:53 GMT
#59
My love for STX died with Hwasin, but i'll still cheer them on~
zimp
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
Hungary951 Posts
November 09 2010 20:33 GMT
#60
how do you know hero has 500 apm? all in his replays he has 300ish
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Bisu-Fan
Profile Joined January 2010
Russian Federation3329 Posts
November 09 2010 21:14 GMT
#61
congrats on your 1000th post...
haha tossgirl...
if only she played more... :D
ahhh we'll see~
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Bisu-Fan
Profile Joined January 2010
Russian Federation3329 Posts
November 09 2010 21:15 GMT
#62
On November 09 2010 11:58 awu25 wrote:
not to mention they have the best female progamer on their team
they'll send her out to play mind games with the opponent

Like they did in the 2v2 allstar game
that was sooo hilarious~
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Bisu-Fan
Profile Joined January 2010
Russian Federation3329 Posts
November 09 2010 21:18 GMT
#63
http://www.teamliquid.net/tlpd/korean/games/47605_Jaedong_vs_Modesty
here we go... :D
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mustaju
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Estonia4504 Posts
November 09 2010 21:22 GMT
#64
On November 10 2010 05:33 zimp wrote:
how do you know hero has 500 apm? all in his replays he has 300ish

It's a nickname. He probably has less on average, but I distinctly remember him having ridiculous amounts of APM in a lot of matches.
WriterBrows somewhat high. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ndFysO2JunE
gryffindor
Profile Joined November 2009
United States524 Posts
November 09 2010 21:27 GMT
#65
why they wont:
SKT.
i got blisters on me fingers
Carnivorous Sheep
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
Baa?21243 Posts
November 09 2010 21:29 GMT
#66
There was one game back when hero first came on the scene where it actually said he had 500 apm. I want to say it was a game vs fantasy where he won just by Muta microing fantasy to death, but I could be wrong.
TranslatorBaa!
mustaju
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Estonia4504 Posts
November 09 2010 21:30 GMT
#67
On November 10 2010 06:18 Bisu-Fan wrote:
http://www.teamliquid.net/tlpd/korean/games/47605_Jaedong_vs_Modesty
here we go... :D

I think his game against flash is more telling. He lost his cool against JD, and that's why he lost the hatch. Sure it is a noob mistake, but he does really well in most ZvZ-s, which has specifically been stated. Doing badly against JD isn't exactly something I'd dwell on.
WriterBrows somewhat high. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ndFysO2JunE
krndandaman
Profile Joined August 2009
Mozambique16569 Posts
November 09 2010 22:28 GMT
#68
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Wolf
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Korea (South)3290 Posts
November 09 2010 22:49 GMT
#69
On November 09 2010 12:48 Doraemon wrote:
you forgot to add that STX has the best uniform (in your opinion of course) haha

oh, tossgirl is damn fine


They do have the best uniform! I wish I could buy one.

This is a great writeup. STX fighting!

Also yes, to the Tossgirl comment from Doraemon
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wxwx
Profile Joined May 2010
527 Posts
November 09 2010 22:50 GMT
#70
heart has melted from the last pic..
mustaju
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Estonia4504 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-11-09 23:07:40
November 09 2010 23:05 GMT
#71
On November 10 2010 07:28 krndandaman wrote:
lol this article just overrates all the stx players.

stx is decent, but definitely no way in hell will win proleague


This is a hype thread. What DID you expect?
EDIT: Also, you are wrong.
WriterBrows somewhat high. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ndFysO2JunE
MageKirby
Profile Joined July 2009
United States535 Posts
November 10 2010 00:48 GMT
#72
To be honest, I forgot Tossgirl was even in the team lol
ShadeR
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
Australia7535 Posts
November 10 2010 01:21 GMT
#73
On November 10 2010 07:49 Wolf wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 09 2010 12:48 Doraemon wrote:
you forgot to add that STX has the best uniform (in your opinion of course) haha

oh, tossgirl is damn fine


They do have the best uniform! I wish I could buy one.

This is a great writeup. STX fighting!

Also yes, to the Tossgirl comment from Doraemon

Samsung Khan Uniform <3
IntoTheEmo
Profile Joined February 2009
Singapore1169 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-11-10 03:39:17
November 10 2010 03:38 GMT
#74
Stumbled upon this ancient thread today. You Tossgirl fans should do something like this ^_^

http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=1709

Pretty epic. Skip to page 5 if you don't wanna read the entire thing. Linked from first page for the initial post date~
MMOs kill APM. However Proleague plus BW Proscene music increase APM -> 100. 이제동 Fighting! Highest ranked Jaedong owner in FPL10 = clearly #1 Jaedong fan~! <- Keeping my sig from 2010
Urth
Profile Blog Joined November 2007
United States1249 Posts
November 10 2010 04:04 GMT
#75
great thread
BY.HERO FIGHTING!!!!
TwoToneTerran
Profile Joined March 2009
United States8841 Posts
November 10 2010 05:21 GMT
#76
On November 10 2010 06:29 Carnivorous Sheep wrote:
There was one game back when hero first came on the scene where it actually said he had 500 apm. I want to say it was a game vs fantasy where he won just by Muta microing fantasy to death, but I could be wrong.


That stems from all of his OSL games when he upset Bisu and made it to the Ro4, he consistently had peak APM of high 400s to low 500s.
Remember Violet.
Carnivorous Sheep
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
Baa?21243 Posts
November 10 2010 05:31 GMT
#77
On November 10 2010 14:21 TwoToneTerran wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 10 2010 06:29 Carnivorous Sheep wrote:
There was one game back when hero first came on the scene where it actually said he had 500 apm. I want to say it was a game vs fantasy where he won just by Muta microing fantasy to death, but I could be wrong.


That stems from all of his OSL games when he upset Bisu and made it to the Ro4, he consistently had peak APM of high 400s to low 500s.


I don't think his APM was actually 500 in the Bisu games though. I mean I could be wrong but I don't remember that being when he got the 500 apm thing. Maybe one of his games vs. Hwasin in that OSL?
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PineappleLumpsToss
Profile Joined July 2010
New Zealand2434 Posts
November 10 2010 05:36 GMT
#78
Nice hype thread Mustaju.

Looking forward to this Saturday's games - should be epic. WTB Bisu-Kal rematch in particular.
matjlav
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
Germany2435 Posts
November 10 2010 05:37 GMT
#79
Fun read.

I'd make one for MBC but I just made one at the end of last season, and not much has changed. So... I'd have trouble coming up with any OC.
mustaju
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Estonia4504 Posts
November 10 2010 06:10 GMT
#80
On November 10 2010 14:37 matjlav wrote:
Fun read.

I'd make one for MBC but I just made one at the end of last season, and not much has changed. So... I'd have trouble coming up with any OC.

The more the merrier Could you link it? I'm too lazy to use the search function.
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TwoToneTerran
Profile Joined March 2009
United States8841 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-11-10 06:27:46
November 10 2010 06:27 GMT
#81
On November 10 2010 14:31 Carnivorous Sheep wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 10 2010 14:21 TwoToneTerran wrote:
On November 10 2010 06:29 Carnivorous Sheep wrote:
There was one game back when hero first came on the scene where it actually said he had 500 apm. I want to say it was a game vs fantasy where he won just by Muta microing fantasy to death, but I could be wrong.


That stems from all of his OSL games when he upset Bisu and made it to the Ro4, he consistently had peak APM of high 400s to low 500s.


I don't think his APM was actually 500 in the Bisu games though. I mean I could be wrong but I don't remember that being when he got the 500 apm thing. Maybe one of his games vs. Hwasin in that OSL?


They show APM throughout every game in the OSL and Hero made it to the Ro4. He definitely showed his incredibly high APM stats in that tournament, and that was the first time anyone had ever noticed him.
Remember Violet.
lokiM
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
United States3407 Posts
November 10 2010 07:13 GMT
#82
WTF, Trap looks so much older since the last time I've seen him.. puberty is amazing
You can't fight the feeling.
catabowl
Profile Joined November 2009
United States815 Posts
November 10 2010 11:43 GMT
#83
"A: STX is a strong team too. That's ok, because I'm rather good against STX, and I've damaged them a lot last season in the STX Masters Cup Finals and in the playoffs. If I'm sent out, I will win."

~Fantasy

STX has no chance!

Jung! Myung! Hoooooooooooooooooon! #TeamPolt
mustaju
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Estonia4504 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-11-10 12:12:53
November 10 2010 11:53 GMT
#84
On November 10 2010 20:43 catabowl wrote:
"A: STX is a strong team too. That's ok, because I'm rather good against STX, and I've damaged them a lot last season in the STX Masters Cup Finals and in the playoffs. If I'm sent out, I will win."

~Fantasy

STX has no chance!


With that quote, you will indeed be invincible.
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....Not.+ Show Spoiler +
While I think SKT does have an advantage, I'm fully confident we'll give them a good fight.
WriterBrows somewhat high. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ndFysO2JunE
Red.
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
Spain228 Posts
November 10 2010 18:22 GMT
#85
On November 09 2010 11:58 awu25 wrote:
not to mention they have the best female progamer on their team
they'll send her out to play mind games with the opponent


THIS!!
"Truth is cold and tough; lies are warm and always give you an excuse"
matjlav
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
Germany2435 Posts
November 10 2010 20:14 GMT
#86
On November 10 2010 15:10 mustaju wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 10 2010 14:37 matjlav wrote:
Fun read.

I'd make one for MBC but I just made one at the end of last season, and not much has changed. So... I'd have trouble coming up with any OC.

The more the merrier Could you link it? I'm too lazy to use the search function.


http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=136630

it was a good way to waste an hour and a half.
dani_caliKorea
Profile Blog Joined November 2009
730 Posts
November 11 2010 02:59 GMT
#87
On November 10 2010 20:43 catabowl wrote:
"A: STX is a strong team too. That's ok, because I'm rather good against STX, and I've damaged them a lot last season in the STX Masters Cup Finals and in the playoffs. If I'm sent out, I will win."

~Fantasy

STX has no chance!



What a total (T)Bogus
nayumi
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
Australia6499 Posts
November 11 2010 04:09 GMT
#88
STX SOUL has the best team name ever.

T1 can't beat that
Sugoi monogatari onii-chan!
thopol
Profile Blog Joined May 2008
Japan4560 Posts
November 11 2010 06:22 GMT
#89
On November 10 2010 20:43 catabowl wrote:
"A: STX is a strong team too. That's ok, because I'm rather good against STX, and I've damaged them a lot last season in the STX Masters Cup Finals and in the playoffs. If I'm sent out, I will win."

~Fantasy

STX has no chance!


Wow, my least favorite player talking smack about the best team to caress keyboard. That guy is amazingly easy to hate.
zimp
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
Hungary951 Posts
November 11 2010 13:29 GMT
#90
On November 10 2010 15:27 TwoToneTerran wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 10 2010 14:31 Carnivorous Sheep wrote:
On November 10 2010 14:21 TwoToneTerran wrote:
On November 10 2010 06:29 Carnivorous Sheep wrote:
There was one game back when hero first came on the scene where it actually said he had 500 apm. I want to say it was a game vs fantasy where he won just by Muta microing fantasy to death, but I could be wrong.


That stems from all of his OSL games when he upset Bisu and made it to the Ro4, he consistently had peak APM of high 400s to low 500s.


I don't think his APM was actually 500 in the Bisu games though. I mean I could be wrong but I don't remember that being when he got the 500 apm thing. Maybe one of his games vs. Hwasin in that OSL?


They show APM throughout every game in the OSL and Hero made it to the Ro4. He definitely showed his incredibly high APM stats in that tournament, and that was the first time anyone had ever noticed him.


i checked those vods and LR threads and found this
+ Show Spoiler +

[image loading]


he really had 500 apm once vs Fantasy :O thats quite rare and impressive. but it was a 9 minute match 2 hatch muta that bursts apm like hell so when people saying an average of 500 they are exaggerating as usual. low 400ish seems to be real average. thats still pretty damn fast! but he's not alone with it. some other zergs like great or sacsri are close to that i think. also some terrans too
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mustaju
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Estonia4504 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-11-11 13:35:26
November 11 2010 13:33 GMT
#91
On November 10 2010 16:43 Fantasy said:
STX is a strong team too. That's ok, because I'm rather good against STX, and I've damaged them a lot last season in the STX Masters Cup Finals and in the playoffs. If I'm sent out, I will win.

I'm personally hoping for a regame in the vein of this:
[image loading]
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Caos2
Profile Joined November 2008
United States1728 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-11-11 13:55:45
November 11 2010 13:48 GMT
#92
Heh, I just don't get us STX fans, we get disappointed time and time again but nothing can stop our biased view towards our team.

GO STX!

BTW, if Modesty is our ZvZ specialist and Shuttle our PvP we ought to snatch Skyhigh from Entus so we'll be the kings of the mirror matches. Or if Kal improves just a little bit, we can have our own S-Class* player!

*S-Class nowadays mean only Jaedong and Flash, no one else. Maybe Fantasy if he ever improves his TvT.

EDIT: If you remove Flash and Skyhigh from Fantasy's TvT records, it gets quite impressive. But to be a S-Class you ought to beat other S-Class players.
Iplaythings
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
Denmark9110 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-11-11 13:56:34
November 11 2010 13:54 GMT
#93
On November 10 2010 04:06 renzy wrote:
Not to mention Bisu man handled Really on Empire of the Sun. We should all agree that Really>Classic, Bogus, and Frozean. lol

Except Classic then yeah

Oh and Frozean knocked bisu out of KA OSL :D

On November 11 2010 13:09 nayumi wrote:
STX SOUL has the best team name ever.

T1 can't beat that

I raise you KT Fingerboom!
In the woods, there lurks..
Iplaythings
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
Denmark9110 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-11-11 13:56:24
November 11 2010 13:55 GMT
#94
double post derp derp sorry
In the woods, there lurks..
nayumi
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
Australia6499 Posts
November 11 2010 13:56 GMT
#95
On November 11 2010 22:48 Caos2 wrote:
Heh, I just don't get us STX fans, we get disappointed time and time again but nothing can stop our biased view towards our team.

GO STX!

BTW, if Modesty is our ZvZ specialist and Shuttle our PvP we ought to snatch Skyhigh from Entus so we'll be the kings of the mirror matches. Or if Kal improves just a little bit, we can have our own S-Class* player!

*S-Class nowadays mean only Jaedong and Flash, no one else. Maybe Fantasy if he ever improves his TvT

Fantasy's TvT is really good, he gave Flash a good run for his money in the previous OSL semi finals.

It's his TvZ which has been inconsistent
Sugoi monogatari onii-chan!
C[SCL]
Profile Joined April 2009
Philippines576 Posts
November 11 2010 14:02 GMT
#96
For a second there, I thought this thread was opened because SKT lost to STX. Turns out that the match is yet to be played.

P.S. SKT will pwn STX, max score of 4-1
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catabowl
Profile Joined November 2009
United States815 Posts
November 13 2010 06:37 GMT
#97
4-2 SKT!!!

STX ain't getting past Stars in the Playoffs
Jung! Myung! Hoooooooooooooooooon! #TeamPolt
mustaju
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Estonia4504 Posts
November 13 2010 06:42 GMT
#98
On November 13 2010 15:37 catabowl wrote:
4-2 SKT!!!

STX ain't getting past Stars in the Playoffs

Don't count us out just yet. You got lucky with the Lineup. We'll be happy to crush you next time.
WriterBrows somewhat high. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ndFysO2JunE
PineappleLumpsToss
Profile Joined July 2010
New Zealand2434 Posts
November 13 2010 07:02 GMT
#99
On November 13 2010 15:37 catabowl wrote:
4-2 SKT!!!

STX ain't getting past Stars in the Playoffs


It's a long season, personally I opt for being humble in victory.
Cheeseburgered
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States716 Posts
November 13 2010 07:02 GMT
#100
On November 13 2010 15:37 catabowl wrote:
4-2 SKT!!!

STX ain't getting past Stars in the Playoffs


Is it July 2011 already? the playoffs have already begun?
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MountainDewJunkie
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
United States10341 Posts
November 13 2010 07:07 GMT
#101
STX simply cannot shake SKT... *sigh* There's something seriously wonky with calm.
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catabowl
Profile Joined November 2009
United States815 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-11-13 14:32:51
November 13 2010 14:31 GMT
#102
On November 13 2010 15:42 mustaju wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 13 2010 15:37 catabowl wrote:
4-2 SKT!!!

STX ain't getting past Stars in the Playoffs

Don't count us out just yet. You got lucky with the Lineup. We'll be happy to crush you next time.


Really? Lucky? When I look at the Matchups they are about the "non-stars" vs other "non-stars" You expect Bisu, Fantasy, Best, and Kal and Calm to have confidence in whoever they play.

Lets look at the games.

Shuttle vs Sun. Your PvP sniper versus our newcomer who wants to be a PvP sniper. Shuttle should have won and choked on a chicken bone! (Yes, I like to use old puns) If this game played 10 times, Shuttle probably goes 7-3.

Kwanro vs Kal: Your best player against our 4th best player who went Macro opening into a fail Muta harass into 5 hatch hydra all-in. Great storms and Corsair play for Kal. Would have loved to see Kal vs anyone from the Big 3. Those would have been great games.

I'd say the first game was STX favor and your team lost. Could have easily been 2-0 STX. But since it's not... we move on

BeSt vs Bogus... Yeah, SKT1 favor. Best got his best M/U. I actually call this favorable. If it's BeSt vs Calm/Modesty we have an actual game.

sOO vs Hero: Both players 50/50 types in ZvZ but Hero has played more intense games. I'd give him a slight advantage. I'd say Hero wins this 6 out of 10 times.

So after 4 games is 2v2 and SKT still has Fantasy and Bisu and there is no way you think Fantasy is not playing on Grand Line.

Bisu vs Calm: Advantage Bisu just b/c he's better. Hell, Fantasy would have beaten Calm too. Calm is dreadful right now against Terran (7 straight losses I think?) Calm did a good timing attack to do damage. But Bisu's army cut his army from regrouping with his new army he was about to send and it won Bisu the game. Just a S class move against an A+ type player.

Fantasy vs Last: I was expecting Classic or Modesty on GrandLine tbh. With that said, Last did have a good opening. However, Fantasy showed us why he's the Terrorist. He must have shot down 8 dropships and his vuluture harass was in top form.

So in terms of "matchups" I'd say STX had 2 favorables and 1 favorable for SKT.
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mustaju
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Estonia4504 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-11-13 15:03:36
November 13 2010 14:48 GMT
#103
On November 13 2010 23:31 catabowl wrote:
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On November 13 2010 15:42 mustaju wrote:
On November 13 2010 15:37 catabowl wrote:
4-2 SKT!!!

STX ain't getting past Stars in the Playoffs

Don't count us out just yet. You got lucky with the Lineup. We'll be happy to crush you next time.


Really? Lucky? When I look at the Matchups they are about the "non-stars" vs other "non-stars" You expect Bisu, Fantasy, Best, and Kal and Calm to have confidence in whoever they play.

Lets look at the games.

Shuttle vs Sun. Your PvP sniper versus our newcomer who wants to be a PvP sniper. Shuttle should have won and choked on a chicken bone! (Yes, I like to use old puns) If this game played 10 times, Shuttle probably goes 7-3.

Kwanro vs Kal: Your best player against our 4th best player who went Macro opening into a fail Muta harass into 5 hatch hydra all-in. Great storms and Corsair play for Kal. Would have loved to see Kal vs anyone from the Big 3. Those would have been great games.

I'd say the first game was STX favor and your team lost. Could have easily been 2-0 STX. But since it's not... we move on

BeSt vs Bogus... Yeah, SKT1 favor. Best got his best M/U. I actually call this favorable. If it's BeSt vs Calm/Modesty we have an actual game.

sOO vs Hero: Both players 50/50 types in ZvZ but Hero has played more intense games. I'd give him a slight advantage. I'd say Hero wins this 6 out of 10 times.

So after 4 games is 2v2 and SKT still has Fantasy and Bisu and there is no way you think Fantasy is not playing on Grand Line.

Bisu vs Calm: Advantage Bisu just b/c he's better. Hell, Fantasy would have beaten Calm too. Calm is dreadful right now against Terran (7 straight losses I think?) Calm did a good timing attack to do damage. But Bisu's army cut his army from regrouping with his new army he was about to send and it won Bisu the game. Just a S class move against an A+ type player.

Fantasy vs Last: I was expecting Classic or Modesty on GrandLine tbh. With that said, Last did have a good opening. However, Fantasy showed us why he's the Terrorist. He must have shot down 8 dropships and his vuluture harass was in top form.

So in terms of "matchups" I'd say STX had 2 favorables and 1 favorable for SKT.

3 favourable, actually. I have no idea why last was played, anyone on SKT is advantaged against him.. The "lucky" part comes from the necessary fanboyism this thread inspires. Actually, all your aces got to play players they wanted to play against (Best T, Bisu P, and Fantasy T) and I bet Kal wanted to play one of the big 3, usually seen on EOTS. Calm is still coming back, and his peek hasn't been reached. Other than Bisu and Fantasy, he could easily demolish SKT, but it was not to be.
You played well, but our coach kind of screwed up. I still have faith in STX, and this is a mere setback. Enjoy your victory - it was deserved! We'll be waiting for the next opportunity, and then we have another shot at dethroning you.

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Don't take the ramblings of prophetic victory and fate conspiring against us too seriously, it ought to be motivational and comforting to us STX fans instead of devalueing your victory. After all, that's exactly what hype threads and fanboy prediction segments are for! I think I did a great job of hyping it up, and reactions seem to indicate I did a good job. Thanks for the feedback.
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Lightwip
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States5497 Posts
November 13 2010 15:15 GMT
#104
What would REALLY be SKT favored:
(T)Fantasy vs (P)Kal
(P)BeSt vs (T)Bogus
(P)Bisu vs (Z)Clam
(Z)Kwanro vs (Z)by.hero
(Z)Soo vs (T)Last
(Z)s2 vs (P)Shuttle
Also, I wouldn't favor Kal against Best, Fantasy, or even Bisu(Bisu only lost because he failed 3 gate game 2 and an all-in in game 3).
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I wish more people would make threads for their team.
If you are not Bisu, chances are I hate you.
_Quasar_
Profile Joined October 2010
Russian Federation4405 Posts
November 13 2010 17:50 GMT
#105
If making Scouts / Queens / Battlecruiser is a winning player bm then sending Tossgirl must be like winning team's bm, kkkkkkkk
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tube
Profile Blog Joined February 2008
United States1475 Posts
November 17 2010 21:22 GMT
#106
tbh im feelin a really disappointing season from stx this time..
TT
Two in harmony surpasses one in perfection.
hitthat
Profile Joined January 2010
Poland2267 Posts
November 17 2010 21:43 GMT
#107
I realy dont know what's with Calm right now... He proved to be smart player capable of beating everyone, and yet he seems not know a shit about good play
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ffreakk
Profile Joined September 2010
Singapore2155 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-11-17 21:46:05
November 17 2010 21:45 GMT
#108
Well, ur a fan have faith.. One 0-4 can be really demoralising but it really is just another loss .

Oh and i would have supported STX in every game (outside SKT n Free's games) if they decide to send Tossgirl at least once. :>
Look. Only Forward. See. Only Victory.
mustaju
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Estonia4504 Posts
December 01 2010 07:52 GMT
#109
I feel a sudden need to bump this. STX fighting!
WriterBrows somewhat high. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ndFysO2JunE
BLinD-RawR
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
ALLEYCAT BLUES50121 Posts
December 01 2010 07:59 GMT
#110
On December 01 2010 16:52 mustaju wrote:
I feel a sudden need to bump this. STX fighting!


Well played STX!!!!!

STX Fighting!!!
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vectorix108
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
United States4633 Posts
December 01 2010 08:01 GMT
#111
WHOOOOOOOOT STX!
Aka XephyR/Shaneyesss
Carnivorous Sheep
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
Baa?21243 Posts
December 01 2010 09:06 GMT
#112
STX <3
TranslatorBaa!
PineappleLumpsToss
Profile Joined July 2010
New Zealand2434 Posts
December 01 2010 11:04 GMT
#113
On December 01 2010 16:52 mustaju wrote:
I feel a sudden need to bump this. STX fighting!


Haha, and so you should. STX were great today.

We'll see you in Rd 3
mustaju
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Estonia4504 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-12-01 11:49:51
December 01 2010 11:41 GMT
#114
On December 01 2010 20:04 PineappleLumpsToss wrote:
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On December 01 2010 16:52 mustaju wrote:
I feel a sudden need to bump this. STX fighting!


Haha, and so you should. STX were great today.

We'll see you in Rd 3

Winners league will be hard. But we'll sure as hell give you a good fight.
WriterBrows somewhat high. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ndFysO2JunE
thopol
Profile Blog Joined May 2008
Japan4560 Posts
December 01 2010 11:53 GMT
#115
Winners league will change everything. There are the expected things like Oz and KT actually winning, but every WL so far has had its surprises and awesome surprise stars. I'm looking forward to that.

I think that STX will probably use Kal more aggressively instead of keeping him as an ace in the hole. We're also a team that I think shows potential for the surprise stars. Bogus has a lot of potential right now. I also think that Modesty could be an extreme baller if he can just flip that switch. Sometimes he's a failmonster, but every now and then you get these glimpses of insane play. I really hope he turns it on sometimes this season.
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