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The Most Successful OSL and MSL Players - Page 2

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]343[
Profile Blog Joined May 2008
United States10328 Posts
October 27 2010 17:41 GMT
#21
ROCK ROCK ROCK hahahaha ro16 master

also canata survivor king
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Slow Motion
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
United States6960 Posts
October 27 2010 19:14 GMT
#22
Conclusion: NaDa is a total beast. And he has a hot body.
slappy
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United States1271 Posts
October 27 2010 19:27 GMT
#23
excellent post, thanks for sharing
jaedong imba
Sentenal
Profile Blog Joined December 2007
United States12398 Posts
October 27 2010 19:30 GMT
#24
Interesting Bisu has so few MSL Ro16 appearances, considering he is one of only a few players who won the MSL 3 times.
"Apparently, Sentenal is a paragon of friendship and tolerance. " - Ech0ne
vectorix108
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
United States4633 Posts
October 27 2010 19:33 GMT
#25
Did they used to give out bronze for tournaments? If so why did they stop it?
Aka XephyR/Shaneyesss
Sentenal
Profile Blog Joined December 2007
United States12398 Posts
October 27 2010 19:45 GMT
#26
On October 28 2010 04:33 vectorix108 wrote:
Did they used to give out bronze for tournaments? If so why did they stop it?

I think it used to be that Bronze would get a seed into the next OSL, but 4th wouldn't. Then they changed it so that 4th would get a seed as well, so they just got rid of the 3/4th place match because they wouldn't matter.
"Apparently, Sentenal is a paragon of friendship and tolerance. " - Ech0ne
bearbuddy
Profile Blog Joined February 2009
3442 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-10-27 19:56:53
October 27 2010 19:50 GMT
#27
Hwasin's 17 ro16 appearance altogether in both leagues... and not a single semi, lol.
Kyuukyuu
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
Canada6263 Posts
October 27 2010 19:53 GMT
#28
On October 28 2010 01:05 minus_human wrote:
Show nested quote +
6. (T)iloveoov 5 5 0


<3<3<3


8. (Z)YellOw 5 0 5

T_T
ArbAttack
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Canada198 Posts
October 27 2010 20:22 GMT
#29
Rock tied with Bisu for OSL RO16 appearances just blew my mind.
Megaliskuu
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States5123 Posts
October 27 2010 20:50 GMT
#30
Aaaaagh poor yellow 0-5 in finals ;;.
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Thorin
Profile Blog Joined November 2009
601 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-10-30 09:12:16
October 30 2010 09:05 GMT
#31
Jaedong making the finals 9 times in 10 Ro4 appearances is absolutely incredible, with his beatdowns at the hands of Flash people shouldn't be too quick to forget what an incredible and clutch winner this guy was.

In my mind Jaedong should be a bonjwa in the same sense that NaDa is: looking back and applying it retroactively when you are forced to by the sheer incredible stats and number of times he won. Dominance shouldn't only be defined as winning everything in a short space of time. If you keep coming back to win and keep coming back to win and keep coming back to win then in a way you have dominated too imo.

It's one thing to lose entirely but if you have a crazy amount of golds and then even your losses mean you keep adding silvers that doesn't take away from your career's accomplishments: it adds to it, albeit it in a lesser way than if any of those were golds.

YellOw's Ro4 and Ro16 stats are just depressing ;_; Crazy to see Bisu has been in more OSL Ro16s than MSL considering the guy had a run of three finals so it seemed like MSL was the BSL for a while. ChoJJa, Nal_rA and Stork really have a better body of work behind them that their titles would suggest.

BTW props for this thread, I really enjoyed reading it and seeing it all laid out like that.
ii.blitzkrieg
Profile Joined November 2006
Canada1122 Posts
October 30 2010 09:13 GMT
#32
On October 28 2010 04:50 bearbuddy wrote:
Hwasin's 17 ro16 appearance altogether in both leagues... and not a single semi, lol.


Could be remembering wrong but didn't he lose to 3-2 to Savior in the semis of the Bisu>Savior MSL?
iloveoov / Flash / Fantasy / Midas / Boxer -BW forever
stambe
Profile Joined May 2005
Bulgaria492 Posts
October 30 2010 09:33 GMT
#33
On October 28 2010 04:53 Kyuukyuu wrote:
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On October 28 2010 01:05 minus_human wrote:
6. (T)iloveoov 5 5 0


<3<3<3


8. (Z)YellOw 5 0 5

T_T


It seems Yellow is reversed Iloveoov, at least when considering golds statistics.
Valks rulzz
Kazius
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
Israel1456 Posts
October 30 2010 10:48 GMT
#34
Protoss representation is very, VERY sad.
Friendship is like peeing yourself. Anyone can see it, but only you get that warm feeling.
We Are Here
Profile Blog Joined October 2006
Australia1810 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-10-30 11:55:41
October 30 2010 11:54 GMT
#35
On October 30 2010 18:13 ii.blitzkrieg wrote:
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On October 28 2010 04:50 bearbuddy wrote:
Hwasin's 17 ro16 appearance altogether in both leagues... and not a single semi, lol.


Could be remembering wrong but didn't he lose to 3-2 to Savior in the semis of the Bisu>Savior MSL?
yep i remember that game 5 where he won using 2 base defiler. so hwasin has 1 semi appearance! it doesnt show in the list cos it is cut off at 5 apperances
He who turns those around him into allies, possesses the most terrifying ability in the world.
Subversive
Profile Joined October 2009
Australia2229 Posts
October 30 2010 12:00 GMT
#36
On October 30 2010 18:05 amarillo wrote:
In my mind Jaedong should be a bonjwa in the same sense that NaDa is: looking back and applying it retroactively when you are forced to by the sheer incredible stats and number of times he won. Dominance shouldn't only be defined as winning everything in a short space of time. If you keep coming back to win and keep coming back to win and keep coming back to win then in a way you have dominated too imo.


I agree. If they had of come up with the Bonjwa idea for Flash, and then retrospectively applied it to past greats, Jaedong would have definitely made the list.

The only reason it took so long for a Bonjwa to be crowned post Savior was that the idea of it came to mean so much more than was originally envisioned, it could only be presently applied when someone ended up winning virtually everything, like Flash had to do.
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Nick_54
Profile Blog Joined November 2007
United States2230 Posts
October 30 2010 13:03 GMT
#37
On October 30 2010 18:13 ii.blitzkrieg wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 28 2010 04:50 bearbuddy wrote:
Hwasin's 17 ro16 appearance altogether in both leagues... and not a single semi, lol.


Could be remembering wrong but didn't he lose to 3-2 to Savior in the semis of the Bisu>Savior MSL?


Yes, you are correct
Thurokiir
Profile Joined June 2010
United States779 Posts
October 30 2010 13:31 GMT
#38
No one else thinks it's funny that "the easiest race" takes up the bottom half of s-class players and representation?
Tahts halo dont worry
luckybeni2
Profile Joined October 2008
Germany1065 Posts
October 30 2010 13:49 GMT
#39
On October 28 2010 04:45 Sentenal wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 28 2010 04:33 vectorix108 wrote:
Did they used to give out bronze for tournaments? If so why did they stop it?

I think it used to be that Bronze would get a seed into the next OSL, but 4th wouldn't. Then they changed it so that 4th would get a seed as well, so they just got rid of the 3/4th place match because they wouldn't matter.

I am really sad that stopped. Yes, you can seed all 4 players but the 3rd place match is a bo5 with very high calibre players so why don't you show it? It had some good sets in the past and especially with all those boring finals we had in the past one and a half years it would make perfect sense.
JSH
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
United States4109 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-10-30 16:06:32
October 30 2010 16:05 GMT
#40
On October 30 2010 22:31 Thurokiir wrote:
No one else thinks it's funny that "the easiest race" takes up the bottom half of s-class players and representation?


It's only "easy" at lower levels

Once you get to be progamer level, it doesn't matter lol

Those were some interesting stats
Thanks for compiling and sharing
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