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Well... there goes CJ's chances in PL... effort was probably the best on the team...
And even though it's disappointing to hear that he's retiring, he's going to go out and get a proper education/job (granted he doesn't do his military service right away), which is a good decision for him, because now he'll be making more than a lot of the progamers in their futures (probably).
GL TO EFFORT IN THE FUTURE!!!
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On September 20 2010 12:35 Hrrrrm wrote:Show nested quote +On September 20 2010 12:30 Bean54 wrote: 10 bucks says he enters into a GSL for sc2 in the next 6 months Hah! Same here. These guys are INSANELY competitive and the will and drive to play at such a high level never goes away. I honestly believe Effort(right now) in saying he wants to study or have time off but, that itch of competition will get him in the near future and SC2 will be there waiting for him. GL to him.
Exactly. He simply said the immediate challenge is not sc2. In my opinion hes either deliberately planned this leave of absence to train in starcraft 2 or if he just legitimately wanted to leave progaming and he will soon tire of his "normal" life and see all the easy large sums of money to be made in Starcraft 2 just like Ret. With all the buzz and money going into Sc2 seems like too much to pass up for someone of his caliber and this is likely just a transition period into Sc2 for him. He just didn't want to jump the gun on the announcement and needs an explanation for his withdrawl from CJ and BW.
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I thought it was a joke but O_O!!!!
Maybe Effort feel he was underpaid, the uncertainties of BW programing scene and plus the fact couch cho retiring must has something to do with this sudden retirement. It would be nice if effort give more details to why...
Good luck Effort
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On September 20 2010 12:46 Lightwip wrote:Show nested quote +On September 20 2010 12:44 Womwomwom wrote:On September 20 2010 12:28 kNyTTyM wrote: whaaaaaaat.......... Progamer on top of his game retiring Wow this is mega huge. You could argue he wasn't ontop of his game. Sure he beat Flash in a finals series but he has playing nowhere near the level he was in 08-09 proleague. If he wasn't, he sure was close. You usually don't win starleagues when you're not at the top.
He pretty much got railroaded to the finals. He struggled to get out of the easiest group ever (Shine + go.go), beat the worst series player with shaky ZvZ (Zero), beat the infamous PvZ choker (Kal), and beat Flash through a really cool all in, Flash choosing to BBS, and Flash handing over the win because of 14CC.
He wasn't in his prime, definitely not. Him leaving at this time was a great idea, it shows that he knows the reality of the situation. Without Coach Cho, CJ is not going to win proleague because everyone besides him are not well rounded and he's probably never going to win a Starleague finals ever again because Flash tends to learn from his mistakes very fast and he's still nowhere near Jaedong in ZvZ skill, not to mention he struggles against good TvZ players that aren't Flash.
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Man I don't see how BW is going to make it when even some of the top players are leaving. I mean Nada, July, hell even Boxer all make sense and so do the little scrubs at the bottom but Effort?! A guy who basically just won a starleague... damn.
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even though he knocked out KHAN in 08 playoffs, i enjoyed watching him beat the hell out of many other progamers.
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</3 FUCK U BLIZZARD FOR MAKING PRO gamers retire effort was one of my favorite players from CJ                               
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What. The. Fuck. Who the hell does he think he is leaving BW when he's still smashing face pretty hard? Why do u do this to me EffOrt? :..(
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what the fuck? is he trying to troll us? or does he miss Mars?
seriously man, this is one hell of a depressing month for BW...
Blizzard has got nothing to do with this...
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On September 20 2010 12:49 Womwomwom wrote:Show nested quote +On September 20 2010 12:46 Lightwip wrote:On September 20 2010 12:44 Womwomwom wrote:On September 20 2010 12:28 kNyTTyM wrote: whaaaaaaat.......... Progamer on top of his game retiring Wow this is mega huge. You could argue he wasn't ontop of his game. Sure he beat Flash in a finals series but he has playing nowhere near the level he was in 08-09 proleague. If he wasn't, he sure was close. You usually don't win starleagues when you're not at the top. He pretty much got railroaded to the finals. He struggled to get out of the easiest group ever (Shine + go.go), beat the worst series player with shaky ZvZ (Zero), beat the infamous PvZ choker (Kal), and beat Flash through a really cool all in, Flash choosing to BBS, and Flash handing over the win because of 14CC. He wasn't in his prime, definitely not. Him leaving at this time was a great idea, it shows that he knows the reality of the situation.
He was the only Zerg capable of stopping flash ZvT along with Jaedong in his 2010 dominance.
He went 5-2 in 2010 against Flash.
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This is really troubling news. I wish him the best of luck in whatever career he chooses to pursue.
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On September 20 2010 12:49 Womwomwom wrote:Show nested quote +On September 20 2010 12:46 Lightwip wrote:On September 20 2010 12:44 Womwomwom wrote:On September 20 2010 12:28 kNyTTyM wrote: whaaaaaaat.......... Progamer on top of his game retiring Wow this is mega huge. You could argue he wasn't ontop of his game. Sure he beat Flash in a finals series but he has playing nowhere near the level he was in 08-09 proleague. If he wasn't, he sure was close. You usually don't win starleagues when you're not at the top. He pretty much got railroaded to the finals. He struggled to get out of the easiest group ever (Shine + go.go), beat the worst series player with shaky ZvZ (Zero), beat the infamous PvZ choker (Kal), and beat Flash through a really cool all in, Flash choosing to BBS, and Flash handing over the win because of 14CC. He wasn't in his prime, definitely not. Him leaving at this time was a great idea, it shows that he knows the reality of the situation.
He still was one of the best Zergs out there. He definitely has been playing better since the final against Flash. But I agree that he was far from his top form that he displayed in 08-09 in proleague.
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On September 20 2010 12:51 synapse wrote: CJ is done for. Pretty much. Savior, Cho, Iris, Effort. At least we get Much back soon. Though I really doubt he will return to being a progamer by the looks of things.......=/
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On September 20 2010 12:50 Chrispy wrote: Man I don't see how BW is going to make it when even some of the top players are leaving. I mean Nada, July, hell even Boxer all make sense and so do the little scrubs at the bottom but Effort?! A guy who basically just won a starleague... damn. Effort was the first current top gamer that left.
Nada and July (and Boxer if the rumor is true) aren't a loss to BW in the sense that they're great players anymore, their BW careers have been over for a while. Them moving on only stands to potentially hurt BW by giving SC2 a huge amount of PR, at a critical time when Blizz and KeSPA are going head to head and the future looks uncertain. Guemchi/MVP (and some B-teamers) won't be a huge loss to the game either. eSTRO is a pretty big deal though.
Then again, it doesn't help that all of this is happening alongside things like the retirement of CJ's Cho, Oz's Cho, MBC's Ha and Lee.
None of these developments would have been that critical if they weren't all happening at the same time, which only goes to further the uncertain feeling.
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On September 20 2010 12:25 dukethegold wrote: WTF? Is this like the first time in history that a top star title holder player active in the scene retire at his peak?
I CAN NOT BELIEVE THIS!
But I think Effort made a good decision. He has won fame and fortune. He achieved the dream of a progamer. It might as well be the time to move on to something else.
The shocking factor is not nobody else before him did this. Everybody else would have used that achievement to whore another high paying 3 year contract or something as such.
CJ is screwed... Jaedong threatened to retire too, until Hwaseung increased their salary offer. CJ must have really lowballed Effort.
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Wow, saddening news. He had great potential to be something special.
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On September 20 2010 12:53 IntoTheWow wrote:Show nested quote +On September 20 2010 12:49 Womwomwom wrote:On September 20 2010 12:46 Lightwip wrote:On September 20 2010 12:44 Womwomwom wrote:On September 20 2010 12:28 kNyTTyM wrote: whaaaaaaat.......... Progamer on top of his game retiring Wow this is mega huge. You could argue he wasn't ontop of his game. Sure he beat Flash in a finals series but he has playing nowhere near the level he was in 08-09 proleague. If he wasn't, he sure was close. You usually don't win starleagues when you're not at the top. He pretty much got railroaded to the finals. He struggled to get out of the easiest group ever (Shine + go.go), beat the worst series player with shaky ZvZ (Zero), beat the infamous PvZ choker (Kal), and beat Flash through a really cool all in, Flash choosing to BBS, and Flash handing over the win because of 14CC. He wasn't in his prime, definitely not. Him leaving at this time was a great idea, it shows that he knows the reality of the situation. He was the only Zerg capable of stopping flash ZvT along with Jaedong in his 2010 dominance. He went 5-2 in 2010 against Flash.
Meanwhile he hasn't done so hot against all of other TvZ players. Yes, Flash is the best terran but there are so many other good TvZ players he has to get through before he might even have a shot of winning the finals. We're talking about Leta, Light, and Sea.
And what these three have in common is they don't really take massive risks to exploit like Flash does. So he's got to take them on and win through pure solid play and his ZvT against these guys haven't really inspired this.
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