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Murderotica
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
Vatican City State2594 Posts
October 05 2010 15:36 GMT
#141
Shotcoder I think you're running yourself into the ground with this argument, you have to know there is no point in continuing this hypothetical discussion because the fundamental flaw in your approach is that you are trying to piss Ammel off and the only way to do that is to beat him in a Bo1 and then call him a noob and refuse to regame him.
ǝsnoɥ ssɐlƃ ɐ uı sǝuoʇs ʍoɹɥʇ ʇ,uop || sıʇɹoɟ ɹǝdɯǝs
ammeL
Profile Joined August 2009
United States211 Posts
October 05 2010 15:49 GMT
#142
Murderotica is right.

If you want to get a "joke" on me, beat me one game and don't rematch me. That'll get me going. Anything else you say is hilarious, indeed. And why wouldn't it be hilarious -- you're joking, right?
Your jokes are funny. Shotcoder is a funny guy. I'm sorry my 'offensive gg' wasn't as funny. I'll try something more comedic next time.

But as for which "joke" is funnier, I give that up to you, Shotcoder. You got this man. Let the posts keep pouring in. Entertainment I desire.
Those who criticize our generation forget who raised it.
vectorix108
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
United States4633 Posts
October 05 2010 16:02 GMT
#143
jeez stop arguing.... the game's over.
You can do whatever you want in a game, cause it is just a game after all
Aka XephyR/Shaneyesss
ammeL
Profile Joined August 2009
United States211 Posts
October 05 2010 17:04 GMT
#144
Agreed. I will do what I want in the game.
That is all.
Case closed.
vectorix108 is a sensible man.
Those who criticize our generation forget who raised it.
Chaos
Profile Joined July 2009
United States772 Posts
October 05 2010 17:44 GMT
#145
On October 05 2010 12:24 ammeL wrote:
Like I said chaos, "not like it mattered anyways" -- but I referred to it as an ACE because both ACE players were sent out. Thus, resulting in an ACE match that did NOT count.

It's not a very difficult concept.


Just because its the ace players doesnt make it an ace match. Its still just a fun game.

On October 05 2010 12:36 Crunchums wrote:
UNT vs CA+CO, someone tell me something


CA+CO won 3-2

P.S. Being BM in a league designed entirely for fun is extremely stupid in my opinion.
FruitMarket
Shotcoder
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
United States2316 Posts
October 05 2010 18:22 GMT
#146
I fail to see this proverbial ground I'm running myself into. None of my posts were meant to piss anyone off at all. I fail to see where I have attempted to one up anyone via BM or via gaming. I just wanted to draw a clear line between your BM and joking. Which you clearly don't understand at all. Quit trying to read what's between the lines when what you should know is what's on the lines to begin with. BM in a fun league(as Chaos said) is for all intensive purposes stupid.

And why would I challenge someone I know I can't beat to a BO1? because the flaw in your plan is you're assuming I'm actually good enough to compete when I'm merely a C- Terran.
Shotcoder - C+ BW Terran, Gold LoL(ADC Main)
ammeL
Profile Joined August 2009
United States211 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-10-05 19:59:13
October 05 2010 19:58 GMT
#147
Shotcoder, it's over now. Stop posting about it. Move on with your life.
Those who criticize our generation forget who raised it.
ammeL
Profile Joined August 2009
United States211 Posts
October 05 2010 20:01 GMT
#148
Chaos,

I respect your opinion. It may be stupid, to SOME people. But that's always how I've played SC. So hate me or like me, I don't care. Though, I am open minded enough to see HOW it could be considered stupid in a fun league.

At any rate, I don't feel like posting about this any longer.
Shotcoder seems to be getting more and more upset (in which he is going to reply to this post with another elaborate paragraph telling me how his position is correct).
Those who criticize our generation forget who raised it.
ilovezil
Profile Blog Joined August 2006
United States4143 Posts
October 05 2010 22:49 GMT
#149
I thought you would drop this incident after the games on battle.net, but it seems that's not the case. Listen. This league is a fun league. We all know that. However, provoking and making fun of players while you're winning does not make it fun for both parties. Furthermore, disrespecting the ace player by offracing and claiming "it doesn't matter" and "I'll win anyway" is NOT "joking". That is provocation.

Rutgers players, you know you guys are the favorites. Knowing you're generally better than your opponents and rubbing it in their face is bad taste. If you guys consider that fun, go make your own league. Preferrably on east in x17. No one agrees it's simply "fun" when the jokes go one way.
rredtooth
Profile Blog Joined December 2008
5461 Posts
October 05 2010 22:55 GMT
#150
ammel is a dickhead and a nerd.
[formerly sponsored by the artist formerly known as Gene]
Murderotica
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
Vatican City State2594 Posts
October 05 2010 23:12 GMT
#151
Ok yo first of all "Rutgers players" afaik only Ammel was BM (that day LOL) so don't try to spread the filth all over us like it's a disease. Second, you could've been the better man and just played the game but instead you ragequit and became no better than Ammel who provoked you in the first place. Also we've had many great experiences just talking trash back and forth with other teams. Although, you did do what is expected of you when you can't take the heat - just leave. I personally would try my hardest to shut up the person BMing me by stomping them out. Any BM after that is just silly and pathetic. Anything before that is competitive spirit IMO.
ǝsnoɥ ssɐlƃ ɐ uı sǝuoʇs ʍoɹɥʇ ʇ,uop || sıʇɹoɟ ɹǝdɯǝs
ilovezil
Profile Blog Joined August 2006
United States4143 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-10-05 23:46:30
October 05 2010 23:39 GMT
#152
On October 06 2010 08:12 Murderotica wrote:
Ok yo first of all "Rutgers players" afaik only Ammel was BM (that day LOL) so don't try to spread the filth all over us like it's a disease. Second, you could've been the better man and just played the game but instead you ragequit and became no better than Ammel who provoked you in the first place. Also we've had many great experiences just talking trash back and forth with other teams. Although, you did do what is expected of you when you can't take the heat - just leave. I personally would try my hardest to shut up the person BMing me by stomping them out. Any BM after that is just silly and pathetic. Anything before that is competitive spirit IMO.


Are you talking to me? Because I surely didn't ragequit and I DID win my own game. Besides that, the two from your team that kept bming afterward were clearly in it to continue with the "jokes" and "provocations". Then, instead of trying to settle this, you simply call it out on me (which I simply accepted and took aside initially). I don't know about the rest of the rutgers team, but letting your members act like this isn't quite convincing you have such a great team image. You claim that any BM after that is pathetic and silly? I accept that. In fact, I stopped with my part altogether yesterday since I did BM your teammates (regardless of who started it) and I figured it'd be forgotten after a night. But no. Now it's on teamliquid and two of you personally targetted me. That in itself, I brushed aside as well, but this has already gotten into what, the 2nd or 3rd page pursuing this endless bullshit so you expect me to sit quiet and take it like the better man? Please.

Personally, I've done my part by securing my win, then I did try to sub in the ace match. However, it became quite clear that the game was not going to start. The rest is what's present.

Of course, if someone from the rutgers team did talk to the members mentioned about their behavior, I do apologize.
Murderotica
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
Vatican City State2594 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-10-05 23:59:24
October 05 2010 23:59 GMT
#153
Lol all I said was "rage less, GGs" and that was going off of Ammel's post, which is still true as far as I can tell.

It's pretty pointless to continue this discussion though considering you say "if someone from the team did talk to the members..." etc. which in our case usually means either BMing each other or supporting each othesr' BM.
ǝsnoɥ ssɐlƃ ɐ uı sǝuoʇs ʍoɹɥʇ ʇ,uop || sıʇɹoɟ ɹǝdɯǝs
ammeL
Profile Joined August 2009
United States211 Posts
October 06 2010 00:16 GMT
#154
ilovezil,

It's over now. Didn't you see my previous post? Move on with your life. I don't care anymore and I don't think anyone else does. The case is closed.

Points of recap:
1) Shotcoder wanted to prove he could make a better "joke" by lifting his buildings and going afk. In which, I told him that would only make me happier.
2) He then continued to press his opinion on me that in a fun league such BM should not be tolerated. I replied with I'm a douche and I'll do as I please.
3) I told him (which was collective, including anyone who posted after) to drop it and move on.
4) ilovezil comes to the rescue in order to "show us who is boss" but has failed miserably in doing so.
5) I say "move on with your lives" once again.

Let's see if people understand it this time.
Those who criticize our generation forget who raised it.
ilovezil
Profile Blog Joined August 2006
United States4143 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-10-06 00:24:00
October 06 2010 00:22 GMT
#155
On October 06 2010 08:59 Murderotica wrote:
Lol all I said was "rage less, GGs" and that was going off of Ammel's post, which is still true as far as I can tell.

It's pretty pointless to continue this discussion though considering you say "if someone from the team did talk to the members..." etc. which in our case usually means either BMing each other or supporting each othesr' BM.


And still, you keep dodging the issue about your teammate's bm. You keep addressing only our team's faults without fully understanding the situation, which I get from your "going off of Ammel's post".

Why do you even back him up? He claims he's Sugo, who has repeatedly have had bad history on this site and isn't exactly known on bnet for his great skills or good manners.
ilovezil
Profile Blog Joined August 2006
United States4143 Posts
October 06 2010 00:27 GMT
#156
On October 06 2010 09:16 ammeL wrote:
ilovezil,

It's over now. Didn't you see my previous post? Move on with your life. I don't care anymore and I don't think anyone else does. The case is closed.

Points of recap:
1) Shotcoder wanted to prove he could make a better "joke" by lifting his buildings and going afk. In which, I told him that would only make me happier.
2) He then continued to press his opinion on me that in a fun league such BM should not be tolerated. I replied with I'm a douche and I'll do as I please.
3) I told him (which was collective, including anyone who posted after) to drop it and move on.
4) ilovezil comes to the rescue in order to "show us who is boss" but has failed miserably in doing so.
5) I say "move on with your lives" once again.

Let's see if people understand it this time.


Really. If you're going to respond, at least make an intelligent post. What you're doing is essentially making not so subtle provocations to continue this "closed case" and while you tell me you don't care anymore and for me to move on with my life, here you are, ready to respond eagerly to anyone from our team.

Sugo,

move on your with life. In fact, move on to other websites. Have you been making any more accounts secretly to praise yourself lately?
ammeL
Profile Joined August 2009
United States211 Posts
October 06 2010 00:32 GMT
#157
Lol. This is my second account, ever.
You must have nothing to do with your life to research me. I actually take honor in that.
Hey, how about this:

ilovezil, I'll play you bo3. I'll own you. After I own you, you have to post here saying that I'm your master. And if you win, I'll do the same, okay?
Oh, and the loser can't post on teamliquid anymore. Deal?

And we'll get an admin to make sure of this. SO if you lose, you get ban. If I lose, I get ban. (only after the loser posts the master part though)

So, if you like to get carry things on, put your money where your mouth is.
Those who criticize our generation forget who raised it.
ammeL
Profile Joined August 2009
United States211 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-10-06 00:37:23
October 06 2010 00:33 GMT
#158
I used the word 'if' -- I was being too sincere.

I meant to say WHEN I win and IF you take the bet. Which, well, you probably won't because TL is clearly your life.


Hopefully you do take this bet. It's what you want.
No more talk. All play. Why argue when it's brood war, right? Just play and find out who the better man is. Simple.

And we all know you're so eager to play, since you didn't even get chosen as the ace to represent Penn State last night. So here's your chance, Mr. BigShot ace. Bet your pride, dignity, and any future on TL to play me in a bo3.

And the loser will have to shut up for all of eternity (at least on TeamLiquid).
Those who criticize our generation forget who raised it.
ilovezil
Profile Blog Joined August 2006
United States4143 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-10-06 00:41:04
October 06 2010 00:38 GMT
#159
On October 06 2010 09:32 ammeL wrote:
Lol. This is my second account, ever.


Oh reaaaaally.

[image loading]


According to this lucky little chart, I see that you previously had two accounts; waldon to praise sugo_v_ from this little gem.

EDIT: Courtesy of Hot_Bid.
ammeL
Profile Joined August 2009
United States211 Posts
October 06 2010 00:39 GMT
#160
Okay, I guess you dodge. And I really don't care about that lol. That's YEARS ago. YEARS.

I don't even use the alias SuGo_V_ anymore. It's ancient. To even bring this up is stupidity on your part. Don't really care if you expose it lol. Everyone already knew who I was. So congrats on being late!

Now:

Back to the bet? I guess you bitch out, huh?
Those who criticize our generation forget who raised it.
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