I think he means that it would mean Flash got atleast 240+206 = 446 but he got less. Maybe you get less the more you have? I don't really know how they calculate these things:/
Well he actually lost more games than effort and jaedong this month since he lost 2 games in PL aswell. Maybe thats why...
On June 01 2010 16:46 slimshady wrote: Flash is imba.
Since we are petition Blizzard/Activision to implement chatroom and cross realm play, we might as well add nerfing Flash to the petition while we are at it.
I am sure it can be scientifically proven that Flash's marines have 45 hp and cost 40 minerals, amongst other things.
The dreaded B-word would be misplaced and I think rightfully so, don't even want to think about that discussion. However, Jaedong ain't got shit on Flash
Watching Flash rise from some new kid from out of nowhere to arguably the greatest player to play this game is astonishing. How even still he continues to refine his gameplay and come back even stronger, but mainly how he never becomes complacent, always striving for greater things. It's quite admirable really to think that a kid who came into the limelight when he was 15 and in 2-3 years come to dominate the scene.
My hat's off to you Lee Young Ho, you are one of the few shining lights left in esports darkest hour. I hope you continue to succeed and I will continue to enjoy your games!
There was such a gap between #1 and #2 in September, October, and November of 2009 (between Jaedong and Bisu). If you look ahead of that, Effort takes 2nd place only behind Jaedong by 900 points, then in January 2010 Flash is #2 500 points behind Jaedong, and in February Flash is 25.5 points behind Jaedong. In March Flash is 200 points ahead of Jaedong, and you know what happens from then on. http://www.teamliquid.net/tlpd/players/kespa_ranking.php?section=korean&year=2009&month=9&action=Update
But yes, it's pretty much fucking unreal. The difference between #1 and #2 has been that great before, but the #2 player has never been anywhere near this good before, making this gap truly ridiculous.
On June 01 2010 23:18 kaleidoscope wrote: Wow Flash just broke a whole new record, 4000 zomg!
Why is hwasin still in after the incident?
I want those money-mongering sellouts in some Hall of Shame plastered near the OSL hall of fame. Or "Everytime you throw a match, God kills a kitten. Please, think of the kittens" caption right at their frame, if they have one (like Savior).
That's sick. how the hell does he gain that many points even tho he gets fewer points per match than everybody else since has worse elo. (is that right?)
On June 02 2010 02:49 Piste wrote: 4000+ ???? W T F
That's sick. how the hell does he gain that many points even tho he gets fewer points per match than everybody else since has worse elo. (is that right?)
It's not calculated by ELO. You can read how it done: here.
If i'm not mistaken, people were like "OMGWTFBBQ" when Jaedong was about 3000, wasn't it considered the highest seen? well I guess this takes the cake.
On June 02 2010 06:19 Lightningbullet wrote: I thought go.go was banned permanently
He is, that is why he is no longer on TLDP, these were last months rankings (well, issued in june, they are the previous' months performance, before the scandal was found I do believe.
i can't believe this is that a record or what?? i know that JD was colse to 3900 but over 4000 Flash???? WTFWTFWTFWTFWTFWTFWTFWTFWTWTFWTF Nice to see Kal in 3rd place go Kal ufffffff take a look on Bisu poor champ i hOpe he returns to his place soon
I want to see a match between effort and flash, after all they practiced a lot when effort was helping train flash for his match against jaedong, so they know each others play style really well.
Although what I really want to see is some more zvp action, that's my favorite match up.
12 terrans with 40.29% of all top-30's points (Flash has 9.95% of all top-30); 9 zergs with 33.22% of all top-30's pts; 9 protosses with 26.49% of all top-30's pts.
I think an intriguing showmatch idea would be Flash+Jaedong vs. any team in progaming, bo7 WL format. If you knock out Flash AND Jaedong before they get four wins, you win. If you fail... you lose.
4000 points, still, does not simply express enough of Flash's prowess. If there is some thing Flash needs right now that is the mindset of Jaedong, which hopefully he's trying to attain. Sure both of them drop games when they're least expected to at times, but to Flash sometimes it seems he just simply throws the game away. Like going 14cc in set5 of OSL FINAL and a BC switch w/o dropships in his latest game against hiya. Jd almost never throws his game away in the manner that Flash does and his will is also extremely formidable (his survival skill is awesome btw). Jd fights with all his fury and holds on whenever it counts, his face speaks it.
darn guys you realize this is the june rank and not the july rank? i'm afraid flash's kespa points are not going to be so much better than jaedong's in august =.=
On July 13 2010 06:53 ]343[ wrote: darn guys you realize this is the june rank and not the july rank? i'm afraid flash's kespa points are not going to be so much better than jaedong's in august =.=
Actually, given that differentials often have largely to do with starleague wins (because of their relative value compared to single games), Flash's rank is likely to stay on top of Jaedong's until either his Hana Daetoo win drops off, or Jaedong wins something else (since Flash's EVER OSL win corresponds to Jaedong's NATE MSL win). In fact, because Jaedong's Bacchus '09 win will no longer be within the last year after next month, Flash's lead is likely to grow, rather than shrink.
On July 13 2010 06:53 ]343[ wrote: darn guys you realize this is the june rank and not the july rank? i'm afraid flash's kespa points are not going to be so much better than jaedong's in august =.=
Actually, given that differentials often have largely to do with starleague wins (because of their relative value compared to single games), Flash's rank is likely to stay on top of Jaedong's until either his Hana Daetoo win drops off, or Jaedong wins something else (since Flash's EVER OSL win corresponds to Jaedong's NATE MSL win). In fact, because Jaedong's Bacchus '09 win will no longer be within the last year after next month, Flash's lead is likely to grow, rather than shrink.
Yeah, I suppose OZ being out of playoffs won't help much either (though Flash will play 2 matches max... and I'm sure Proleague playoffs are worth quite a few KeSPA points). But if Flash keeps playing like he is right now, he won't be on top for long... He'll have his 2 gold/2 silver points until late in the fall I suppose.
On July 13 2010 07:07 ]343[ wrote: Yeah, I suppose OZ being out of playoffs won't help much either (though Flash will play 2 matches max... and I'm sure Proleague playoffs are worth quite a few KeSPA points). But if Flash keeps playing like he is right now, he won't be on top for long... He'll have his 2 gold/2 silver points until late in the fall I suppose.
KeSPA ranking has historically been known to be fairly poor at responding to short-term changes in player ability, especially due to the way it tracks league wins. Flash will hold on to his points from double finals until the beginning of next year (since KeSPA tracks the last year), and even then, Jaedong will have dropped 1 OSL and 1 MSL win off the radar. He will need to win another title to ensure that he pulls ahead.
By the way, Jaedong passed Flash a few days ago in the ELO ranking I guess all those recent losses in proleague took their toll ! But indiv league give so many points, unless he's eliminated early which i don't see happening, he's gonna stay at the top of kespa for at least another 4/5months :o
EPT
Flash 4062.5 --
Jaedong 2862.5 --
Kal 2064.0 +1
Stop dropping out of leagues in random places
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