EPT[Subs] Korea Reports on Scandal - Page 3
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Katsuge
Singapore7730 Posts
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Milkis
5003 Posts
On May 18 2010 14:10 GTR wrote: thankfully the players involved aren't that important to a sponsorship point these days (honestly who gives a fuck about savior/justin) if it were taekbang leessang (bisu/stork/jaedong/flash), we'd have huge problems. Actually, I'd be more concerned. Remember, players represent their teams. No matter how you slice it, Savior = CJ, Justin = Hite, etc. Things like this is literally enough for korean corporations to drop their sponsorships for their teams next season. | ||
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Jathin
United States3505 Posts
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SlayerS_BunkiE
Canada1713 Posts
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ccdnl
United States611 Posts
On May 18 2010 13:52 Megalisk wrote: I thank you all for bringing this to us the non korean speaking members of TL. Wow 83,000 for Mr. Park off of 9 games, that's pretty good, is the theory that these numbers are understated true, because 83k is alot O_O. User's heart is breaking even more User was temp banned for this post. Lol i'm sorry for being off topic but whoever did the user's heart is breaking even more is so witty and cute<-- in a manly way......okay no but it was hilarious | ||
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Armathai
1023 Posts
I'm just wondering if they'll let Savior keep all his trophies, or will reaward them ^_< Gogo Nada for überbonjwa :D | ||
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sung_moon
United States10110 Posts
imma watch this later | ||
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sung_moon
United States10110 Posts
On May 18 2010 21:46 Milkis wrote: Actually, I'd be more concerned. Remember, players represent their teams. No matter how you slice it, Savior = CJ, Justin = Hite, etc. Things like this is literally enough for korean corporations to drop their sponsorships for their teams next season. since when did justin = hite? | ||
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chesshaha
United States1117 Posts
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Emon_
3925 Posts
He's hite just like Sacsri = Wongjin stars. | ||
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Jaester88
United States143 Posts
On May 18 2010 14:10 DivinO wrote: YTN mentioned a Mr. Jung as a progamer. Excuse me if I've missed out on another thread that told us this but who could Mr. Jung be? Jung, Jeong, or Chung is the fifth most common last name (I think, after Kim Lee Park Choi) in Korea. TLPD's a little buggy right now so it's hard to check, but there has to be dozens of them. It would be a bit difficult to pinpoint anyone just based on that information. edit: Just re-read the front page news article by Konadora, and it says Mr. Jung is a K3 pro soccer player. | ||
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Zeridian
United States198 Posts
On May 18 2010 16:11 justiceknight wrote: i wonder how did gogo rigged the game by destroying bisu 2 times in OSL trying to win/lose in the re-re-re-rematch honestly this question sucks. If you get to a higher point in starleague your matches are obviously worth more betting wise. If he won his games with bisu in qualifiers he could throw matches in higher rounds in order to up the betting pool for the fixed gambling. | ||
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Biff The Understudy
France7947 Posts
On May 18 2010 21:55 Jathin wrote: If I find out IdrA wasn't actually losing but instead throwing all his matches I'm quitting SC. Edit: that's actually an interesting thought. IdrA was in the CJ house while this was going down. Has he made any statement about all this yet? If you want to make money by dropping games, you need people to bet on you. Just my two cents  | ||
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Tom Phoenix
1114 Posts
On May 18 2010 21:55 Jathin wrote: If I find out IdrA wasn't actually losing but instead throwing all his matches I'm quitting SC. Edit: that's actually an interesting thought. IdrA was in the CJ house while this was going down. Has he made any statement about all this yet? Not to insult IdrA or anything, but I seriously doubt he is considered good enough by Korean standards to be able to turn a hefty profit through match fixing. At least players like Savior, Hwasin, go.go etc. played in high profile games that would allow them to get a large amount of money. Besides, if IdrA was in it for the money, he would have been better off going back home to the US then staying in Korea. I am preety sure he earned more money through winning foreigner events then he did through his progaming salary. I know you weren't implying that he was, but I just thought it wise to discredit the theory upfront before people would get any ideas. Anyway, this issue makes me wonder if these progamers, now that they tarnished their reputation in the Brood War scene, will try their luck in SC2. Since SC2 (currently) isn't under KeSPA's jurisdiction, they currently have no say in who plays the game professionally. However, I certainly hope they will not be allowed to do so. The last thing a fledging SC2 scene needs is to be negatively marked by cheaters and frauds, just like Brood War was in the early days. | ||
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Dagorath
Zimbabwe5 Posts
Should they go to prison or something? Disqualifying would be right way to do it. It's not like the tortured someone for money. | ||
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sung_moon
United States10110 Posts
when he said savior= cj and jsutin= hite i figured he meant in terms of the player u think of when u hear that team, not just a player on the team. | ||
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Puosu
6994 Posts
On May 19 2010 03:22 Dagorath wrote: lol at people who say fine is too soft. Should they go to prison or something? Disqualifying would be right way to do it. It's not like the tortured someone for money. Yeah right, scamming huge loads of money and even doing it through already illegal ways definitely shouldn't get you to jail. What the fuck? You can't let the progamers freeroll, you need to set examples so future progamers will not be as ready to do it. I'd be disgusted if the main people behind this get out with a fine. | ||
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Biff The Understudy
France7947 Posts
On May 19 2010 03:33 Puosu wrote: Yeah right, scamming huge loads of money and even doing it through already illegal ways definitely shouldn't get you to jail. What the fuck? You can't let the progamers freeroll, you need to set examples so future progamers will not be as ready to do it. I'd be disgusted if the main people behind this get out with a fine. I hope for them they don't go in jail. I fear they do. Not that I excuse them in anyway. But thinking that someone will go in jail will never make me happy. Especially if he is not dangerous. "Example" argument is bullshit. If criminals were thinking twice before doing something wrong because the penalty is bigger, the most repressive countries would be the safest. It happens to be exactly the opposite. | ||
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Mobius
Canada1268 Posts
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LegendaryZ
United States1583 Posts
Jail these days isn't so much meant to be a form of punishment as a method of keeping the offending individual out of the community. Seeing as it's rather unlikely that someone like Savior will continue to commit the same crime or another crime, there's really little reason to put him in prison. As for some of the organizers, there would be more of a reason there simply because of the reports of them using threats to manipulate the gamers as well as the fact that organizing this kind of activity is something they could easily do again if they were back in society. I understand that you may be offended by this course of events and the scandal, but don't let that color your beliefs in regard to what the punishment should be. Justice should be reasonable and thoughtful, not vengeful. | ||
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