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StylishVODs
Profile Joined December 2005
Sweden5331 Posts
May 18 2010 10:53 GMT
#161
On May 18 2010 19:23 iPF[Div] wrote:
This is just disheartening. For so many years I've supported Hwasin and Savior, watching every game, never doubting for a second that match "would be the one" and now this bullshit. At least we have sc2 around the corner, it looks like the community could use a fresh start.


Blah this has nothing to do with starcraft or starcraft 2.
Can't blame starcraft or all the hard working non-cheaters for something a few has done.
According to Reach, he is the fastest learner he has ever seen. He start bw only like 2/3 years ago. Infact, his bw history knowledge is so limited, he didn't even know what the map Guillotine was.
Boonbag
Profile Blog Joined March 2008
France3318 Posts
May 18 2010 11:38 GMT
#162
Thats what ramen diet does to you - match rigging
Jenia6109
Profile Blog Joined December 2008
Russian Federation1612 Posts
May 19 2010 11:03 GMT
#163
Thats what (Z)sAviOr meant by returning in 2009
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htennek_mil
Profile Joined January 2009
Singapore59 Posts
May 19 2010 13:20 GMT
#164
Isn't Saviors salary high enough to afford all those branded stuff anyway?
Wonder what else he spends his dough on
Ryo
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
8787 Posts
May 19 2010 14:31 GMT
#165
On May 19 2010 22:20 htennek_mil wrote:
Isn't Saviors salary high enough to afford all those branded stuff anyway?
Wonder what else he spends his dough on


My guess is that he may have been gambling some of that high salary away and perhaps (just conjecture) that's how he ended up working for these brokers/gangsters, to pay off some debts, if not to make more money to gamble away.

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chongu
Profile Blog Joined February 2009
Malaysia2585 Posts
May 19 2010 15:10 GMT
#166
Poll: Which one are you more PISSED OFF at? : l

NATE MSL black-out ruining the best Bo5 in history (22)
 
31%

the poor conditions that B-teamers live in (20)
 
29%

sAviOr throwing matches and deceiving his fans (18)
 
26%

KESPA 'ppp' controversy last year (4)
 
6%

roro for ruining everybody's fpl (4)
 
6%

Luxury retiring (2)
 
3%

70 total votes

Your vote: Which one are you more PISSED OFF at? : l

(Vote): sAviOr throwing matches and deceiving his fans
(Vote): NATE MSL black-out ruining the best Bo5 in history
(Vote): KESPA 'ppp' controversy last year
(Vote): the poor conditions that B-teamers live in
(Vote): Luxury retiring
(Vote): roro for ruining everybody's fpl


SC2 is to BW, what coke is to wine.
BlackMagister
Profile Joined October 2008
United States5834 Posts
May 19 2010 15:22 GMT
#167
I'm sure a lot of progammers are going to retire not just Luxury due to the scandal. Type-B for example said he was going to the army and I doubt he'll go on Ace. Luxury just seems to have gotten kicked out instead of being able to quit.
XiaoJoyce-
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
China2908 Posts
May 19 2010 15:38 GMT
#168
Hwasin can't get fired

Is Hwasin situation same as Savior , Luxury? Or maybe less servere, so he can still play..
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Ryo
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
8787 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-05-19 16:14:57
May 19 2010 16:14 GMT
#169
On May 20 2010 00:38 XiaoJoyce- wrote:
Hwasin can't get fired

Is Hwasin situation same as Savior , Luxury? Or maybe less servere, so he can still play..


Not as severe as Savior or Justin, meaning he probably won't get a jail sentence (suspended or otherwise).

But IMO Hwasin's contract will be terminated. It would be very bad for STX's image if they keep him around, not to mention team morale.
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Xiphos
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
Canada7507 Posts
May 21 2010 02:56 GMT
#170
Guys, can someone translate this image? http://www.fomos.kr/board/issue/1274323821_1.jpg
For all of us?
It seems that Savior have been kicked out of CJ.
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Harem
Profile Joined November 2007
United States11390 Posts
May 21 2010 02:58 GMT
#171
On May 21 2010 11:56 Xiphos wrote:
Guys, can someone translate this image? http://www.fomos.kr/board/issue/1274323821_1.jpg
For all of us?
It seems that Savior have been kicked out of CJ.

http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=125601

All answered in this thread.
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Emon_
Profile Blog Joined November 2009
3925 Posts
May 21 2010 20:14 GMT
#172
Summary of gamers suspected of throwing games, grouped by Team

STX: (Z)Calm, (T)Hwasin, (P)Kal, (Z)Modesty
Hite: (T)Go.go, (Z)Yarnc, (Z)type-b,

KT: (Z)Luxury (former Hite-member)
CJ: (Z)sAviOr
Wemade: (T)BaBy

I'm surprised how much heat go.go is getting while Calm, Kal and Hwasin, who probably were in it just as much, aren't getting as much attention. Especially Calm. This is #3 on the Kespa ranking and former MSL champion, throwing games and giving away his strategies in the chat before the actual game! He had a game vs. Jaedong yesterday while Hwasin is out of the team!? Explain yourself STX.
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Deleted User 55994
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
949 Posts
May 21 2010 20:20 GMT
#173
On May 22 2010 05:14 Emon_ wrote:
Summary of gamers suspected of throwing games, grouped by Team

STX: (Z)Calm, (T)Hwasin, (P)Kal, (Z)Modesty
Hite: (T)Go.go, (Z)Yarnc, (Z)type-b,

KT: (Z)Luxury (former Hite-member)
CJ: (Z)sAviOr
Wemade: (T)BaBy

I'm surprised how much heat go.go is getting while Calm, Kal and Hwasin, who probably were in it just as much, aren't getting as much attention. Especially Calm. This is #3 on the Kespa ranking and former MSL champion, throwing games and giving away his strategies in the chat before the actual game! He had a game vs. Jaedong yesterday while Hwasin is out of the team!? Explain yourself STX.


i was gonna seriously reply but I think you made the troll too obvious with the last few sentences
lowbright
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
308 Posts
May 21 2010 20:23 GMT
#174
stop bumping the thread -_-
it was just a little effort meant to put together a list of suspicious games for those that were curious and wanted to watch them together and see how gamers play when they're trying to throw games.

also, apparently netizens think type-b vs flash was thrown as well, although flash would have probably dominated that one anyway.
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Bill Murray
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
United States9292 Posts
May 21 2010 20:27 GMT
#175
i cant believe some moron thought they needed to pay hwasin to throw a tvp
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On_Slaught
Profile Joined August 2008
United States12190 Posts
May 21 2010 22:33 GMT
#176
Sigh. This is all sad. I hope the thing about Upmagic isn't true... he's awesome! However if it turns out to be true it would at least explain why he isn't playing to his potential. He's much better than his results show.
Harem
Profile Joined November 2007
United States11390 Posts
May 21 2010 22:35 GMT
#177
On May 22 2010 07:33 On_Slaught wrote:
Sigh. This is all sad. I hope the thing about Upmagic isn't true... he's awesome! However if it turns out to be true it would at least explain why he isn't playing to his potential. He's much better than his results show.

Upmagic has already admitted and apologized for this. :|
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Jonvvv
Profile Blog Joined February 2009
Norway1530 Posts
May 22 2010 16:08 GMT
#178
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Cirno
Profile Joined December 2008
Canada168 Posts
May 22 2010 17:30 GMT
#179
I'm really disappointed about this whole thing. I have Hwasin and Savior's autographs hanging on my wall in a nice frame to be kept safe but now I'm kind of ashamed to admit it.
NrG.Cirno
PanoRaMa
Profile Blog Joined June 2003
United States5069 Posts
May 22 2010 17:50 GMT
#180
On May 23 2010 02:30 Cirno wrote:
I'm really disappointed about this whole thing. I have Hwasin and Savior's autographs hanging on my wall in a nice frame to be kept safe but now I'm kind of ashamed to admit it.


My facebook ID is /savior :[
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