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yes9111
Profile Joined May 2009
United States420 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-04-08 22:40:29
April 08 2010 17:31 GMT
#1
First off..
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Your feelings on advancing to the Ro16?
I did manage to advance but I got very angry with myself. While playing Midas I felt that my play wasn't very good. I'll try to recover that weakness and reach far in the league.

Did you not prepare enough for the first game?
I definitely didn't prepare for set 1 as much as set 2 and 3. I thought even without practicing much that I'd be fine but it was pretty clear today that Midas owned me in terms of skill so I'm mad at myself.

You didn't look very happy even after winning the loser's match.
My skills had returned somewhat so I wasn't that mad. The shock from losing game 1 was still there so I was trying to focus.

Did yesterday's loss in the OSL have an influence?
I earned something from losing yesterday but I learned nothing from losing today, which is why I was even more pissed. Because it's just 1 loss and I still have a chance to qualify, I didn't worry about it too much and focused on practicing for today's games.

What did you earn from yesterday's defeat?
It's a game-related thing so I don't really want to say it

You went mech for two days in a row against Zergs.
It was a bit different because of the maps. I was able to play a lot more confidently today. I thought my play was perfect while practicing for yesterday but while actually playing Hyvaa it didn't quite go as how I planned it. I was pissed off for a while but after reflecting, I learned quite a few things from it.

Your Ro16 opponent will be Hwasin.
I practice frequently with Hwasin so I hope we can have an awesome game together. Because I'm very confident about TvT, as long as I practice, I think I can advance.

You had no rest since the Winner's League finals.
I couldn't rest for even a day since then. My body is tired and my fingers don't move as fast as I want them to. I hope I can recover quickly with this victory.

The Proleague format changed.
I really like it and hoped for it to be implemented a lot. I'm more confident about it and I think I can even with the Most Wins in Proleague award. It's true that as the number of leagues increased there was less time to prepare for everything. I usually don't practice that much and I think I will have more time thanks to the new format. I'm a player who focuses heavily on game fundamentals and I think the new format suits my style better.

Any last words?
I hope a lot of people come to see the opening match for Proleague R4 on saturday.


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Your feelings on making it back to the Ro16 in 10 seasons?
I was definitely lucky this time. Even if you play extremely well, if you're unlucky you will lose. I feel that on average my skill isn't very different from the others so it depends a lot on my condition that day. Starting locations, builds, or just ingame luck are all such factors.

How did you prepare for your match against Flash?
I don't worry that much about TvT and just do what I have to do. I think I started off very well and felt that Flash didn't prepare much for the map. When I saw that he started off with tanks instead of vultures, I felt he didn't understand the map that well. He like a style where he makes a lot of tanks and establishes territory but I think this map didn't really suit that kind of play. Because of all his tournaments, I think he didn't have much time to prepare.

Your choice of wraiths was also very good.
I knew wraiths were good. There are no cliffs to take advantage of with ground units so I chose wraiths instead of dropships.

Your understanding of the map seems good.
I think that's because I had a lot of time to prepare. Flash had a vacation break after the finals so it must have been hard for him to prepare. (Note: ehhh?)

How was your game against Action?
I planned my game that way regardless of whether my opponent was Hyun or Action. They're both new to the game so I planned it that way. But Action blocked it quite well considering he went overpool. And honestly I practiced the most for my 5th game because I thought I would lose against Flash.

It's your first Ro16 in a while. It must feel good to come this far.
I didn't appear in the individual leagues for a while and barely came out for the Proleague. I think it will mean a lot more if I go further.

Proleague R4 is starting soon too.
I want to do even better in the proleague. It's nearing the Playoffs and we're only in 6th place so we're on the edge. My goal is 6~7 wins per round. I don't want to set my goals too high.

Wemade Terrans are doing extremely well recently.
I think the removal of the race limits on the proleague are extremely good. Having a lot of TvTs can be a problem, but since we have a lot of great Terrans I think the change is good.

You're having some kind of synergy with Baby.
I don't want to admit it but I think there is some of that. I think baby is always very lucky

Your Ro16 opponent is Jangbi.
It's a big problem. I wanted to go up as 2nd place since I have no confidence in TvP. Me having good TvP is all from 5 years ago. I wanted to play Hwasin and practiced my 5th match a lot. When Jangbi played Zero I cheered for Zero a lot but Jangbi just played too good. I will practice a lot and make sure I beat Jangbi.

Any last words?
I want to thank my practice partners. Because they helped so much, I really thank them all. I made Hero[join] practice with me so much on Triathlon I want to say sorry to him. I felt that winning on Triathlon and advancing second would be really good.



On a side note, Moon the wc3 player is getting married!
STORK WHAT ARE YOU DOING?
koreasilver
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
9109 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-04-08 17:37:26
April 08 2010 17:36 GMT
#2
Midas!

It was good to see him scouting a lot more than he used to in the past. Both him and Flash loved to just... not scout until they get vultures or something in periods in their past.
SubtleArt
Profile Blog Joined January 2010
2710 Posts
April 08 2010 17:46 GMT
#3
Lol each of Flash's loses make him even more of a beast. hopefully he can recover from his slump

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kidding of course
Morrow on ZvP: "I'm not very confident in general vs Protoss because of the imbalance (Yes its imbalanced, get over it)."
AppleTart
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United States1261 Posts
April 08 2010 18:10 GMT
#4
Flash is overworked right now, he just needs to rest or he will burn out
always tired -_-
On_Slaught
Profile Joined August 2008
United States12190 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-04-08 18:16:14
April 08 2010 18:15 GMT
#5
If Flash begins to stumble again (not b/c last night was a stumble but I mean what happened to him like a year ago) it will be because his team ran him into the ground, much like Oz did to Jaedong.

(Gratz to the 5th race! You're the best wc3 player ever... with grubby ofc)
Squallcloud
Profile Joined February 2008
France466 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-04-08 18:19:10
April 08 2010 18:18 GMT
#6
On April 09 2010 03:10 AppleTart wrote:
Flash is overworked right now, he just needs to rest or he will burn out


Yeah i'm scared. Korean progamers don't seem to rest enough.

Thanks for the translation!
Firebathero fanboy - It's not that i'm dumb i'm just controlled by a retarded infestor - Day[9]
dukethegold
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
Canada5645 Posts
April 08 2010 18:21 GMT
#7
Ewwwwww! Flash is human after all. Being overburdened with heavy schedule and the lack of time to fully understand new maps DO affect him.

Lolz about the result though. Hwasin ended up playing against Flash, Midas ended up playing against Jangbi and Flash is pissed at losing against Midas. The only guy who can smile at the result is probably Jangbi.
SuperArc
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
Austria7781 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-04-08 18:23:03
April 08 2010 18:22 GMT
#8
And it's starting again.

If KT manages to get every match to Ace we'll have no Flash in finals...

Flash is really cursed to be in such a team.
Snow - future of protoss! :) Nada = baller
dukethegold
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
Canada5645 Posts
April 08 2010 18:34 GMT
#9
On April 09 2010 03:22 SuperArc wrote:
And it's starting again.

If KT manages to get every match to Ace we'll have no Flash in finals...

Flash is really cursed to be in such a team.


Hey, at least Flash is being paid well for his service.

Can't say the same for Jaedong.
SuperArc
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
Austria7781 Posts
April 08 2010 18:40 GMT
#10
On April 09 2010 03:34 dukethegold wrote:
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On April 09 2010 03:22 SuperArc wrote:
And it's starting again.

If KT manages to get every match to Ace we'll have no Flash in finals...

Flash is really cursed to be in such a team.


Hey, at least Flash is being paid well for his service.

Can't say the same for Jaedong.


Yeah, but in return Oz doesn't burn out Jaedong so he can make money himself.
According to Liquipedia Jaedong is the first on total prize money score.
Snow - future of protoss! :) Nada = baller
foeffa
Profile Blog Joined August 2007
Belgium2115 Posts
April 08 2010 18:42 GMT
#11
Midas! Woot.

Tx for the translation.
觀過斯知仁矣.
MountainDewJunkie
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
United States10344 Posts
April 08 2010 18:47 GMT
#12
Flash advanced and you freaks are starting to think he's slipping? Oh my God! He had a 2 game losing streak! The end is near!!!
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SubtleArt
Profile Blog Joined January 2010
2710 Posts
April 08 2010 18:50 GMT
#13
On April 09 2010 03:21 dukethegold wrote:
Ewwwwww! Flash is human after all. Being overburdened with heavy schedule and the lack of time to fully understand new maps DO affect him.

Lolz about the result though. Hwasin ended up playing against Flash, Midas ended up playing against Jangbi and Flash is pissed at losing against Midas. The only guy who can smile at the result is probably Jangbi.


Jangbi PvT has been really shaky and quite frankly I'd be suprised if Flash doesn't roflstomp him like all the other Protosses

@ The guy sarcastically saying "omg flash lost 2 games the end is near"...

The point is this is really reminiscent of Flash a while ago when he was dominating then lost to Luxury. Eventually a massive schedule led to him declining. and it took a long time to recover. Same cycle seems to be starting, considering flash played SLOPPY (yes, SLOPPY), against a relatively mediocre zerg
Morrow on ZvP: "I'm not very confident in general vs Protoss because of the imbalance (Yes its imbalanced, get over it)."
Art.FeeL
Profile Blog Joined September 2007
1163 Posts
April 08 2010 18:51 GMT
#14
On April 09 2010 03:40 SuperArc wrote:
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On April 09 2010 03:34 dukethegold wrote:
On April 09 2010 03:22 SuperArc wrote:
And it's starting again.

If KT manages to get every match to Ace we'll have no Flash in finals...

Flash is really cursed to be in such a team.


Hey, at least Flash is being paid well for his service.

Can't say the same for Jaedong.


Yeah, but in return Oz doesn't burn out Jaedong so he can make money himself.
According to Liquipedia Jaedong is the first on total prize money score.


That's only after that incident where he almost left Oz, but him, as one of the best players ever, getting only 100 000 $ a year is shame, whereas flash is getting for 2 years already 300 000$. But hey it seems that KT > Hwaseung in money
I am a great believer in luck. The harder I work the luckier I am.
Cpadolf
Profile Joined August 2009
Sweden1199 Posts
April 08 2010 18:51 GMT
#15
On April 09 2010 03:47 MountainDewJunkie wrote:
Flash advanced and you freaks are starting to think he's slipping? Oh my God! He had a 2 game losing streak! The end is near!!!


Against so-so opponents! It's still ridiculous to start acting like something serious is going on already, but besides the Bo5 against Jaedong he hasn't lost two games in a row since like June last year or something, so it's at least somewhat understandable that some people are a little worried considering that he has burned out before.
Noxide
Profile Joined July 2009
United States2870 Posts
April 08 2010 18:52 GMT
#16
Thanks for the translation. Looking forward to Ro16.
Flash ひなの戦争の王である || しかし、実際にはヤフーの ファンタジーサッカー、楽しいプレー私の週末を占めている
butchji
Profile Joined September 2009
Germany1531 Posts
April 08 2010 18:52 GMT
#17
"What did you earn from yesterday's defeat?
It's a game-related thing so I don't really want to say it "

Be afraid. Be very afraid.
Late
Profile Joined August 2007
Latvia418 Posts
April 08 2010 18:55 GMT
#18
Thanks for the translations, really appreciated! Way to go (T)Midas! WAY TO GO!
dukethegold
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
Canada5645 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-04-08 19:12:15
April 08 2010 19:01 GMT
#19
On April 09 2010 03:50 SubtleArt wrote:
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On April 09 2010 03:21 dukethegold wrote:
Ewwwwww! Flash is human after all. Being overburdened with heavy schedule and the lack of time to fully understand new maps DO affect him.

Lolz about the result though. Hwasin ended up playing against Flash, Midas ended up playing against Jangbi and Flash is pissed at losing against Midas. The only guy who can smile at the result is probably Jangbi.


Jangbi PvT has been really shaky and quite frankly I'd be suprised if Flash doesn't roflstomp him like all the other Protosses


Hence, I said that the only individual who is happy about this group's result is Jangbi, whose PvT is no longer at super S-class level. Jangbi's PvT may suck now, but I suspect Midas' TvP is even worse.

If Flash 2-0'ed this group, he would play against Jangbi and rape. Hwasin probably got a reasonable chance at winning against Midas in BO3 TvT. Instead, a twist of fate ended up in Hwasin's misery. Hwasin got some serious issue with Round of 8.
amazingoopah
Profile Joined January 2010
United States1925 Posts
April 08 2010 19:04 GMT
#20
poor Hwasin... flash slips a bit and he ends up matched up against him. The guy can't catch a break.
Iplaythings
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
Denmark9110 Posts
April 08 2010 19:33 GMT
#21
On April 09 2010 03:47 MountainDewJunkie wrote:
Flash advanced and you freaks are starting to think he's slipping? Oh my God! He had a 2 game losing streak! The end is near!!!

Im not worried for him losing to Midas. THe same way that I ain't worried for JD for losing to Baby.

Because they BOTH played very good despite being the underdogs. (and Wemade Terrans)

I have a good feeling about wemade atm... THey are gonna rock the new SPL with their rules so hard. Baby / Mind / Midas / roro / Shine / Pure. Even though Shine, roro, mind and pure is on and off they all can be upsetting =)
In the woods, there lurks..
NurseArial
Profile Joined March 2010
Belarus109 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-04-08 19:43:40
April 08 2010 19:42 GMT
#22
BaBy/Mind/Midas/Pure is going to be a sick line-up. Woongjin will be even sicker now that they don't have to play terrans anymore.

ZerO/Kwanro/Guemchi/Free
ZerO/Kwanro/SoulKey/Free

It seems like Flash just didn't prepare well for the map, not a big deal. As far as his game against HyuN, he didn't play that sloppily. Even though he lost the science vessels, this happens to Flash a lot as he plays very aggressively with his vessels. Because his macro is so good, he can usually stand to lose a few vessels in return for the damage he does with them. He likes to separate vessels from his army to cover more ground.

His game against Action was very good.
Wings
Profile Joined January 2010
United States999 Posts
April 08 2010 19:42 GMT
#23
DAMMIT it should have been Flash v Jangbi, Hwasin v Midas... it would have been awesome to see Flash & Hwasin go to the Ro8!!! But now... poor Red Sniper... ='(

Flash, just because you are God doesn't mean you don't have to know what map you're playing on!!!!!!!!
The probability of Kim Carrier getting all those predictions wrong is similar to the probability Flash loses a TvT. Kim Carrier MUST BE a genius. His only big mistake... STORK.
Kenpachi
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
United States9908 Posts
April 08 2010 19:48 GMT
#24
lol i bet Flash was like "Fuck TvT im going to practice TvZ only"
Nada's body is South Korea's greatest weapon.
DreaM)XeRO
Profile Blog Joined December 2008
Korea (South)4667 Posts
April 08 2010 20:06 GMT
#25
oh man. Flash and Midas?
thats pretty cool~

and.. moon? really?
married? congrats
cw)minsean(ru
InDaHouse
Profile Joined May 2008
Sweden956 Posts
April 08 2010 20:19 GMT
#26
Thanks for the translation. Flash never gets tired of more learning. He is like a black-hole sucking information, only to get better and better.
Stork protoss legend
flamewheel
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
FREEAGLELAND26781 Posts
April 08 2010 20:38 GMT
#27
Thanks for the translation, mate!
...Flash is scary >.>
Writerdamn, i was two days from retirement
Azarkon
Profile Joined January 2010
United States21060 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-04-08 20:54:33
April 08 2010 20:47 GMT
#28
"I'm very angry..."
"I was mad..."
"I was pissed off..."
"I got even more pissed off..."

LOL Flash is an angry nerd.
okum
Profile Blog Joined February 2009
France5778 Posts
April 08 2010 21:07 GMT
#29
Is "pissed" an accurate translation? Progamers tend to express themselves more politely in interviews, so I guess Flash must've been really pissed...

Flash fan before it was cool | Coiner of "jangbang"
Harem
Profile Joined November 2007
United States11393 Posts
April 08 2010 21:11 GMT
#30
On April 09 2010 05:47 Azarkon wrote:
"I'm very angry..."
"I was mad..."
"I was pissed off..."
"I got even more pissed off..."

LOL Flash is an angry nerd.

No, he's just your standard, every day Terran.
Moderator。◕‿◕。
b0lt
Profile Joined March 2009
United States790 Posts
April 08 2010 21:11 GMT
#31
On April 09 2010 06:07 okum wrote:
Is "pissed" an accurate translation? Progamers tend to express themselves more politely in interviews, so I guess Flash must've been really pissed...



It was more like "angry with myself"
yes9111
Profile Joined May 2009
United States420 Posts
April 08 2010 21:33 GMT
#32
On April 09 2010 06:11 b0lt wrote:
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On April 09 2010 06:07 okum wrote:
Is "pissed" an accurate translation? Progamers tend to express themselves more politely in interviews, so I guess Flash must've been really pissed...



It was more like "angry with myself"

+1
Just wrote pissed to add more color. Writing "very angry with myself" 4 times seemed to me very repetitive.
STORK WHAT ARE YOU DOING?
On_Slaught
Profile Joined August 2008
United States12190 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-04-08 21:51:00
April 08 2010 21:49 GMT
#33
On April 09 2010 03:40 SuperArc wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 09 2010 03:34 dukethegold wrote:
On April 09 2010 03:22 SuperArc wrote:
And it's starting again.

If KT manages to get every match to Ace we'll have no Flash in finals...

Flash is really cursed to be in such a team.


Hey, at least Flash is being paid well for his service.

Can't say the same for Jaedong.


Yeah, but in return Oz doesn't burn out Jaedong so he can make money himself.
According to Liquipedia Jaedong is the first on total prize money score.


Seems to be something fundamentally wrong with your logic here... you know Jaedong could just be better over a longer period of time? The connection between what you said leading to your conclusion isn't really there.

Flash gets paid more to do the same thing (if not less since most everyone would agree KT is a better team).
Zona
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
40426 Posts
April 08 2010 22:36 GMT
#34
Thanks for the translation.

"Your having some kind of synergy with Baby." -> You're

Good for Midas, he's continuing to evolve after switching teams. Seems he did read the map better than Flash did.

Flash says he learned nothing from his match with Midas - well he'll probably learn after he reads Midas's interview.
"If you try responding to those absurd posts every day, you become more damaged. So I pay no attention to them at all." Jung Myung Hoon (aka Fantasy), as translated by Kimoleon
tube
Profile Blog Joined February 2008
United States1475 Posts
April 08 2010 23:06 GMT
#35
i lol'ed hard when i saw that flash got angry even though he advanced...
compare him to people who are absolutely ecstatic that they advanced at all in other interviews
Two in harmony surpasses one in perfection.
Antisocialmunky
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United States5912 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-04-08 23:17:14
April 08 2010 23:15 GMT
#36
Maybe Flash wants a paid vacation?

Wasn't it Diggity who said that Terrans are always pissed off and channel all that anger into making tanks or something?
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Lebesgue
Profile Joined October 2008
4542 Posts
April 09 2010 03:09 GMT
#37
Sad to hear that Flash feels tired. I am really happy that KT finally won something but they started to rely on Flash way too much. Other players have to step up again or he will burn out.

Katsuge
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
Singapore7730 Posts
April 09 2010 03:17 GMT
#38
KTFlash!
김태연 | 정은지 | 아이유 |  한효주 | 이민정 <3 -|||- 소녀시대 에이핑크 사랑해!
saritenite
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
Singapore1680 Posts
April 09 2010 03:21 GMT
#39
On April 09 2010 06:11 Harem wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 09 2010 05:47 Azarkon wrote:
"I'm very angry..."
"I was mad..."
"I was pissed off..."
"I got even more pissed off..."

LOL Flash is an angry nerd.

No, he's just your standard, every day Terran.


Bahahahaha :D

Flash and Midas ftw!
Chairman Ray
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
United States11903 Posts
April 09 2010 06:23 GMT
#40
MOON IS GETTING MARRIED?!?!?!

ZOMG!!
meegrean
Profile Joined May 2008
Thailand7699 Posts
April 09 2010 07:14 GMT
#41
I guess Flash just likes to build faster tanks in TvT regardless of the map.
Brood War loyalist
ReketSomething
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
United States6012 Posts
April 09 2010 08:31 GMT
#42
Hwasin curse...(if you even call it a curse)
Jaedong :3
Garnet
Profile Blog Joined February 2006
Vietnam9033 Posts
April 09 2010 10:13 GMT
#43
No Moon for SC2??? Oh well...
darktreb
Profile Joined May 2007
United States3017 Posts
April 09 2010 10:47 GMT
#44
On April 09 2010 17:31 ReketSomething wrote:
Hwasin curse...(if you even call it a curse)


He might be about to lose to yet another eventual MSL winner....
yupyup
Profile Joined June 2009
Philippines36 Posts
April 09 2010 16:34 GMT
#45
i hate flash for losing to midas.
and having to (most probably) beat hwasin in ro16
ohh the fanboyism.
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