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On February 23 2010 05:51 Bifur wrote:Show nested quote +On February 23 2010 05:44 krndandaman wrote: They are similar indeed, but I think Nada's dominance far outweighs Mondragon's 'dominance' in the foreign scene. Nada has won so many starleagues that it's ridiculous. He has also been in the top few ranks of Kespa rankings for a LOOOOONG time. Mondragon has certainly been a top ranked foreigner for a while, but I haven't seen dominance in mondragon as I have seen in Nada. Jaedong has almost caught up NaDa: he has 3 OSLs and 2 MSLs in his pocket. One more victory and NaDa will be overshadowed. Nada did it first, can jaedong do that? no.
thats one thing jaedong will never have
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I think doing it first has no importance. ;p
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On February 23 2010 05:34 KingKRule wrote:Show nested quote +On February 23 2010 05:31 Foreplay wrote: No. Nada is the 'Mondragon' of the korean scene. No, Korea is the Mondragon of the NaDa scene
I thought my dragon was not a korean scene?
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doing it first isnt what matters but just take a look at the fact how long NaDa dominated. How long he was around there..
I highly doubt anyone will ever be as successful as NaDa .. Actually I dont know what a person has to do to be more successful than him.. Would winning 1 more osl or 1 more msl than NaDa mean he is more accomplished ? Maybe ..
Mondi isnt the NaDa of the foreign scene
There is no single player you can compare to NaDa from the foreigner scene.. Because 1) No one dominated as much and put up such consistent results..
Reason being: There were never as many tournaments and as many money on the line as in korea..
Dont compare em.. u kinda really cant..
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On February 23 2010 06:00 arb wrote:Show nested quote +On February 23 2010 05:51 Bifur wrote:On February 23 2010 05:44 krndandaman wrote: They are similar indeed, but I think Nada's dominance far outweighs Mondragon's 'dominance' in the foreign scene. Nada has won so many starleagues that it's ridiculous. He has also been in the top few ranks of Kespa rankings for a LOOOOONG time. Mondragon has certainly been a top ranked foreigner for a while, but I haven't seen dominance in mondragon as I have seen in Nada. Jaedong has almost caught up NaDa: he has 3 OSLs and 2 MSLs in his pocket. One more victory and NaDa will be overshadowed. Nada did it first, can jaedong do that? no. thats one thing jaedong will never have
He can be the first to beat it.
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Gosh they are so different that the comparison doesn't really makes sense. I think that in a way Mondragon is almost bigger to the foreigner scene than Nada to the Korean scene.
Gotta get flamed hard for this.
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actually u might be right..
but again its because there are so many amazing pros in korea and NaDa is such an oldschooler an since he retired and faded away so many new amazing players rose up..
foreigners.. its just a few who did amazing for a certain time and then there are players like Mondi who did amazing basicaly for ever and never really went of the radar..
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If Mondi wins the TSL he will be top 5 all time foreigner behind Grrr, Slayer, Elky for being consistent during such a long period ( 2004-2010 best foreign zerg ).
Mmm about Nada i guess he is already in the top 5 all time Koreans
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On February 23 2010 05:34 KingKRule wrote:Show nested quote +On February 23 2010 05:31 Foreplay wrote: No. Nada is the 'Mondragon' of the korean scene. No, Korea is the Mondragon of the NaDa scene
No, scene is the NaDa of the Korea Mondragon.
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On February 23 2010 06:29 MaGic~PhiL wrote: actually u might be right..
but again its because there are so many amazing pros in korea and NaDa is such an oldschooler an since he retired and faded away so many new amazing players rose up..
foreigners.. its just a few who did amazing for a certain time and then there are players like Mondi who did amazing basicaly for ever and never really went of the radar..
Nada retired? wtf?
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On February 23 2010 05:56 Mortality wrote: Mondragon is a great player, but no.
Just no.
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On February 23 2010 06:00 arb wrote:Show nested quote +On February 23 2010 05:51 Bifur wrote:On February 23 2010 05:44 krndandaman wrote: They are similar indeed, but I think Nada's dominance far outweighs Mondragon's 'dominance' in the foreign scene. Nada has won so many starleagues that it's ridiculous. He has also been in the top few ranks of Kespa rankings for a LOOOOONG time. Mondragon has certainly been a top ranked foreigner for a while, but I haven't seen dominance in mondragon as I have seen in Nada. Jaedong has almost caught up NaDa: he has 3 OSLs and 2 MSLs in his pocket. One more victory and NaDa will be overshadowed. Nada did it first, can jaedong do that? no. thats one thing jaedong will never have
he could become the first to get 7 individual titles though.
I agree that Jaedong wont become the successful player with his 6th title yet though. Nada was strong for a longer period of time, also Jaedong was never a bonjwa. But I think there's still enough time for Jaedong before bw dies.
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I think the options for voting are bad. Mondragon is Mondragon. Nada is not as consistent.
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Stupid poll. Comparing mondragon to nada.. :X tssk tssk
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I think mondragon lasts longer than both Nada and Julyzerg.
So if anything, it should be the other way around.
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Why would you give him a nickname after another fucking player? Let alone Terran. Plus, NaDa isn't even consistent. He has spells.
This has stupidity written all over it.
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I think few here actually know that Mondragon competed with top german players back in 2001, winning the so called VIP tournaments 1 and 2. (the 3rd one was won by Fisheye, who was considered the best german player back then).
He was like 14 back then, clearly being the "Koll" of these days. Many people in the german starcraft scene wondered how someone that young could be that good
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not even near NaDa is a big name really big for any foreigner or even korean progamers.
mondragon is good but NaDa is a real genius
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On February 23 2010 05:50 Ryoo wrote:Show nested quote +On February 23 2010 05:34 KingKRule wrote:On February 23 2010 05:31 Foreplay wrote: No. Nada is the 'Mondragon' of the korean scene. No, Korea is the Mondragon of the NaDa scene WTF? LOL.
I see that many new people on TL.net have never heard of "life of lively to live to life of full life thx to shield battery" and stuff like that
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