I predict Jaedong will win 3:1. If I had to predict how the scores will work, then I will have to say Flash will take Match Point then Jaedong will win the next 3. Jaedong's LWWW will play out here.
Alot of people say Jaedong's greatest strength is his ZvP, but in my mind he is known to be as a great ZvT player. There are very few zergs who have a fighting chance against Flash and one of those Zergs would be Jaedong.
Flash may be on fire, but look at his schedule right now. He just had his OSL finals, a proleague match and now an MSL final. I don't think Flash can be more prepared than Jaedong who had time and that is the greatest strength Jaedong has over Flash.
▶ Stork - Flash wins MSL
Flash will win because he is just so unstoppable right now. The force started at OSL RO8 and I believe it will continue to the MSL finals.
Bisu said that it will be difficult for Flash to keep up, but I've known Flash for a while and Flash is a player who does ALOT of thinking. Also KT took Flash off the proleague entry list last time so I don't think Flash had trouble preparing for this finals at all. Not to mention I heard rumors that whenever Jaedong and Flash practice, Flash ends up winning most of the games now. And not to mention, the only time Jaedong got a Silver medal was against a Terran player. Everything points towards Flash in my opinion so I think he will win.
I helped Flash with his OSL final and let me tell you something; this isn't the same Flash I knew long ago. There was something different about Flash this time... Long time ago when Jaedong beat me to win his first OSL, I remember Jaedong saying "I practiced so hard my fingers almost broke. I felt it from Jaedong that time and this time I was getting the same vibe from Flash. I also heard that Flash's keyboard hand (left hand) got blisters and kept bleeding during practice because he stretched it too far (this is actually true, it was a huge issue in Korea for a while >.> )
It's been only a week since Flash won OSL, but I think Flash's current state is too strong to overlook.
Flash for the win eh? i gotta agree with stork here. flash is unstoppable right now. that plus match point and I see a 3-1 victory for flash. Still, this msl is gonna rock
On January 21 2010 17:31 SiDX wrote: wtf practice until ur fingers bleed..thats crazy...i just hope for a good 5 game series i don't mind who wins either deserve it obviously
I think that is a very bad idea. I have heard of pianists who practice equally much and end up getting their hands completely destroyed/paralyzed.
Grrrrrr........ Bisu, and Stork. Stop predicting the finals when you two should be playing in them. We and by we I mean zerg fans (And by zerg fans what I really mean is Jaedong fans), need a dragon slayer slayer right about now.
On January 21 2010 18:17 roMAD wrote: MIsO told me EffOrt practiced with Flash and won many games.
but in the finals the crowd can make u ner... o wait, nvm.
hahaha :D. Though nerves won't play a role for either player, who are both veterans to pressure.
Nice to hear romad. Personally I don't want Flash taking both titles, though I have nothing against him. I wonder who Jaedong is practicing with if Flash is practicing w/ one of the other top zergs. Hopefully not Hiya or the Epsilon squadron.
On January 21 2010 18:17 roMAD wrote: MIsO told me EffOrt practiced with Flash and won many games.
Many people have told me that maGma has practiced with both Jaedong and Flash and won alot of games
Doubt that he practiced with Jaedong, though. And his ZvZ was very bad, even in practice. And Effort is showing good results on TV, it's not that he is considered as one of the "bonjwa in practice, but chobo on TV" guys.
On January 21 2010 18:17 roMAD wrote: MIsO told me EffOrt practiced with Flash and won many games.
Many people have told me that maGma has practiced with both Jaedong and Flash and won alot of games
Doubt that he practiced with Jaedong, though. And his ZvZ was very bad, even in practice.
Its been said heaps before that magma was insanely good in pratice games, having about a 65% winrate vs both JD and Flash
Who told you that? I am gonna ask FancY about that later.
LOL!! wow.. try and unjumble these letters.. and u'll find the true meaning..
G U L L I B E L
I don't know if the specific statistic of 65% winrate is true, but it's common knowledge that magma was extremely good in practice (one of the best), especially relative to his TV game performance.
On January 21 2010 18:17 roMAD wrote: MIsO told me EffOrt practiced with Flash and won many games.
Many people have told me that maGma has practiced with both Jaedong and Flash and won alot of games
Doubt that he practiced with Jaedong, though. And his ZvZ was very bad, even in practice.
Its been said heaps before that magma was insanely good in pratice games, having about a 65% winrate vs both JD and Flash
Who told you that? I am gonna ask FancY about that later.
LOL!! wow.. try and unjumble these letters.. and u'll find the true meaning..
G U L L I B E L
I don't know if the specific statistic of 65% winrate is true, but it's common knowledge that magma was extremely good in practice (one of the best), especially relative to his TV game performance.
On January 21 2010 18:17 roMAD wrote: MIsO told me EffOrt practiced with Flash and won many games.
Many people have told me that maGma has practiced with both Jaedong and Flash and won alot of games
Doubt that he practiced with Jaedong, though. And his ZvZ was very bad, even in practice.
Its been said heaps before that magma was insanely good in pratice games, having about a 65% winrate vs both JD and Flash
Who told you that? I am gonna ask FancY about that later.
LOL!! wow.. try and unjumble these letters.. and u'll find the true meaning..
G U L L I B E L
Oh man, -_- im not joking Since i've been on tl the rumor that Mamga was a beast has been thrown around heaps, it was said alot when he qualified into the msl a few seasons ago. In the group selections alot of the players said that magma was really good in pratice
On January 21 2010 18:17 roMAD wrote: MIsO told me EffOrt practiced with Flash and won many games.
Many people have told me that maGma has practiced with both Jaedong and Flash and won alot of games
Doubt that he practiced with Jaedong, though. And his ZvZ was very bad, even in practice.
Its been said heaps before that magma was insanely good in pratice games, having about a 65% winrate vs both JD and Flash
Who told you that? I am gonna ask FancY about that later.
LOL!! wow.. try and unjumble these letters.. and u'll find the true meaning..
G U L L I B E L
Oh man, -_- im not joking Since i've been on tl the rumor that Mamga was a beast has been thrown around heaps, it was said alot when he qualified into the msl a few seasons ago. In the group selections alot of the players said that magma was really good in pratice
On January 21 2010 18:17 roMAD wrote: MIsO told me EffOrt practiced with Flash and won many games.
Many people have told me that maGma has practiced with both Jaedong and Flash and won alot of games
Doubt that he practiced with Jaedong, though. And his ZvZ was very bad, even in practice.
Its been said heaps before that magma was insanely good in pratice games, having about a 65% winrate vs both JD and Flash
Who told you that? I am gonna ask FancY about that later.
LOL!! wow.. try and unjumble these letters.. and u'll find the true meaning..
G U L L I B E L
Oh man, -_- im not joking Since i've been on tl the rumor that Mamga was a beast has been thrown around heaps, it was said alot when he qualified into the msl a few seasons ago. In the group selections alot of the players said that magma was really good in pratice
On January 21 2010 18:17 roMAD wrote: MIsO told me EffOrt practiced with Flash and won many games.
Many people have told me that maGma has practiced with both Jaedong and Flash and won alot of games
Doubt that he practiced with Jaedong, though. And his ZvZ was very bad, even in practice.
Its been said heaps before that magma was insanely good in pratice games, having about a 65% winrate vs both JD and Flash
Who told you that? I am gonna ask FancY about that later.
LOL!! wow.. try and unjumble these letters.. and u'll find the true meaning..
G U L L I B E L
Oh man, -_- im not joking Since i've been on tl the rumor that Mamga was a beast has been thrown around heaps, it was said alot when he qualified into the msl a few seasons ago. In the group selections alot of the players said that magma was really good in pratice
Who told you about the winrate %?
The same people that have told me magma owns offline, if you read as much tl as i do you pick up on these things
On January 21 2010 18:17 roMAD wrote: MIsO told me EffOrt practiced with Flash and won many games.
Many people have told me that maGma has practiced with both Jaedong and Flash and won alot of games
Doubt that he practiced with Jaedong, though. And his ZvZ was very bad, even in practice.
Its been said heaps before that magma was insanely good in pratice games, having about a 65% winrate vs both JD and Flash
Who told you that? I am gonna ask FancY about that later.
LOL!! wow.. try and unjumble these letters.. and u'll find the true meaning..
G U L L I B E L
Oh man, -_- im not joking Since i've been on tl the rumor that Mamga was a beast has been thrown around heaps, it was said alot when he qualified into the msl a few seasons ago. In the group selections alot of the players said that magma was really good in pratice
Who told you about the winrate %?
The same people that have told me magma owns offline, if you read as much tl as i do you pick up on these things
I heard that he had ~50% winrate vs FlaSh. Haven't heard anything about 65 and Jaedong. And why does it matter anyway?
"I helped Flash with his OSL final and let me tell you something; this isn't the same Flash I knew long ago. There was something different about Flash this time... Long time ago when Jaedong beat me to win his first OSL, I remember Jaedong saying "I practiced so hard my fingers almost broke. I felt it from Jaedong that time and this time I was getting the same vibe from Flash. I also heard that Flash's keyboard hand (left hand) got blisters and kept bleeding during practice because he stretched it too far"
Most insightful comment I've read about Flash's current state. Too bad no one seems to have any similar analysis to give about Jaedong.
On January 21 2010 18:17 roMAD wrote: MIsO told me EffOrt practiced with Flash and won many games.
Many people have told me that maGma has practiced with both Jaedong and Flash and won alot of games
Doubt that he practiced with Jaedong, though. And his ZvZ was very bad, even in practice.
Its been said heaps before that magma was insanely good in pratice games, having about a 65% winrate vs both JD and Flash
Who told you that? I am gonna ask FancY about that later.
LOL!! wow.. try and unjumble these letters.. and u'll find the true meaning..
G U L L I B E L
Oh man, -_- im not joking Since i've been on tl the rumor that Mamga was a beast has been thrown around heaps, it was said alot when he qualified into the msl a few seasons ago. In the group selections alot of the players said that magma was really good in pratice
Who told you about the winrate %?
The same people that have told me magma owns offline, if you read as much tl as i do you pick up on these things
I heard that he had ~50% winrate vs FlaSh. Haven't heard anything about 65 and Jaedong. And why does it matter anyway?
Nono. I reckon the only mention of Magam beeing a practice hero is from Incontrol in a replay comment he posted there of a replay of Magma vs Bisu on bluestorm where Bisu got pwned.
Inc said that Magam was rumoured to be an online practice hero.
On January 21 2010 18:17 roMAD wrote: MIsO told me EffOrt practiced with Flash and won many games.
Glad to hear Effort playing well. In my opinion Effort plays the best late game ZvT of anyone so this shouldn't come as a huge surprise.
I'm actually kind of interested in who JD is practicing with. Don't think any Terran can play a Flash style nearly to Flash's level, maybe Really can be a "poor man's Flash" or something?
Effort on the other hand is near JD's ZvT level - interesting to hear that he's helping Flash (partly to his own practice benefit of course) indeed.
On January 21 2010 19:49 KristianJS wrote: "I helped Flash with his OSL final and let me tell you something; this isn't the same Flash I knew long ago. There was something different about Flash this time... Long time ago when Jaedong beat me to win his first OSL, I remember Jaedong saying "I practiced so hard my fingers almost broke. I felt it from Jaedong that time and this time I was getting the same vibe from Flash. I also heard that Flash's keyboard hand (left hand) got blisters and kept bleeding during practice because he stretched it too far"
Most insightful comment I've read about Flash's current state. Too bad no one seems to have any similar analysis to give about Jaedong.
On January 21 2010 18:34 Scaramanga wrote: [quote] Many people have told me that maGma has practiced with both Jaedong and Flash and won alot of games
Doubt that he practiced with Jaedong, though. And his ZvZ was very bad, even in practice.
Its been said heaps before that magma was insanely good in pratice games, having about a 65% winrate vs both JD and Flash
Who told you that? I am gonna ask FancY about that later.
LOL!! wow.. try and unjumble these letters.. and u'll find the true meaning..
G U L L I B E L
Oh man, -_- im not joking Since i've been on tl the rumor that Mamga was a beast has been thrown around heaps, it was said alot when he qualified into the msl a few seasons ago. In the group selections alot of the players said that magma was really good in pratice
Who told you about the winrate %?
The same people that have told me magma owns offline, if you read as much tl as i do you pick up on these things
I heard that he had ~50% winrate vs FlaSh. Haven't heard anything about 65 and Jaedong. And why does it matter anyway?
Nono. I reckon the only mention of Magam beeing a practice hero is from Incontrol in a replay comment he posted there of a replay of Magma vs Bisu on bluestorm where Bisu got pwned.
Inc said that Magam was rumoured to be an online practice hero.
People forget about motherfuckn LEE JAE DONG too quickly. He is gonna tear Flash a new asshole. I'm not even one bit nervous. I just know... Jaedong is god.
yeah and I bet Flash won "many" games too. That's kind of a vague statement. Did Miso specifically say that Effort won more games than Flash did or is he just impressed that Effort's awesome enough to take down Flash at all?
On January 22 2010 03:29 TwoToneTerran wrote: yeah and I bet Flash won "many" games too. That's kind of a vague statement. Did Miso specifically say that Effort won more games than Flash did or is he just impressed that Effort's awesome enough to take down Flash at all?
We talked about Effort and his ZvT, so Miso said something like this "effort ZvT very very good, effort and flash practice, effort many win"
On January 22 2010 03:45 NO MY LIQUIBET wrote: I don't really care who wins, I just hope it goes the full 5 games so we have enough gosu to tide us over until proleague starts again.
On January 22 2010 03:45 NO MY LIQUIBET wrote: I don't really care who wins, I just hope it goes the full 5 games so we have enough gosu to tide us over until proleague starts again.
On January 22 2010 03:29 TwoToneTerran wrote: yeah and I bet Flash won "many" games too. That's kind of a vague statement. Did Miso specifically say that Effort won more games than Flash did or is he just impressed that Effort's awesome enough to take down Flash at all?
We talked about Effort and his ZvT, so Miso said something like this "effort ZvT very very good, effort and flash practice, effort many win"
I am just curious, what's your connection to Miso about? Are you guys related or what?
On January 22 2010 03:29 TwoToneTerran wrote: yeah and I bet Flash won "many" games too. That's kind of a vague statement. Did Miso specifically say that Effort won more games than Flash did or is he just impressed that Effort's awesome enough to take down Flash at all?
We talked about Effort and his ZvT, so Miso said something like this "effort ZvT very very good, effort and flash practice, effort many win"
I am just curious, what's your connection to Miso about? Are you guys related or what?
romad has many connections to progamers, hes chatting a lot with them.
Flash may be on fire, but look at his schedule right now. He just had his OSL finals, a proleague match and now an MSL final. I don't think Flash can be more prepared than Jaedong who had time and that is the greatest strength Jaedong has over Flash.
Bisu is so right, Flash has such a heavier schedule than JD and that is JD's biggest advantage. I wonder if that will hinder Flash or maybe it won't affect him at all.
On January 21 2010 17:23 MrHoon wrote: And not to mention, the only time Jaedong got a Silver medal was against a Terran player. Everything points towards Flash in my opinion so I think he will win.
Stork REALLY knows his silvers, so I think he's right and Flash is going to win
Its crazy how hard these guys have to practice... i mean its great for us to see the finished product of really hard practicing... but i feel sorry for how hard they really have to push themselves... but i guess you could say that with any sport really...
On January 21 2010 17:23 MrHoon wrote: Long time ago when Jaedong beat me to win his first OSL, I remember Jaedong saying "I practiced so hard my fingers almost broke."
i have bet 100$ on flash but inside my heart i want jaedong to win, so i'll be happy whatever happen The only thing that really matter is the quality of games, no one sided rape please.
you guys all forget during saviors reign, his fucking peak, he was INVINCIBLE.
you enter watching a match, knowing that your liquibet is 100% safe, that savior will pull through ANY BoX he encounters.
after that epic final ( well epic rape by savior ) everyone was thinking, wow, savior is unstoppable, he is a force of nature, he is the fucking maestro, no way he can be taken down.
and wah lah~ via history we know it just aint true.
i predict jaedong 3-1. jaedong will have something hidden up his sleeve (maybe double muta groups?) but dont expect him to go down without a fight!
On January 22 2010 10:16 Kinky wrote: Holy crap. I have NEVER heard of someone getting blisters from a keyboard. That must suck balls especially if you're a progamer.
it's voilà. I'm usually not grammar guy, but so many people are using this word without having any idea what it is or how it's spelled, it makes me minirage
Anyway you are very right about expectations and how they play out (or don't). The favorite does get demolished sometimes. And yet I am going to ignore all that and say "not this time". This is Flash's for the taking
On January 21 2010 18:36 roMAD wrote: [quote] Doubt that he practiced with Jaedong, though. And his ZvZ was very bad, even in practice.
Its been said heaps before that magma was insanely good in pratice games, having about a 65% winrate vs both JD and Flash
Who told you that? I am gonna ask FancY about that later.
LOL!! wow.. try and unjumble these letters.. and u'll find the true meaning..
G U L L I B E L
Oh man, -_- im not joking Since i've been on tl the rumor that Mamga was a beast has been thrown around heaps, it was said alot when he qualified into the msl a few seasons ago. In the group selections alot of the players said that magma was really good in pratice
Who told you about the winrate %?
The same people that have told me magma owns offline, if you read as much tl as i do you pick up on these things
I heard that he had ~50% winrate vs FlaSh. Haven't heard anything about 65 and Jaedong. And why does it matter anyway?
Nono. I reckon the only mention of Magam beeing a practice hero is from Incontrol in a replay comment he posted there of a replay of Magma vs Bisu on bluestorm where Bisu got pwned.
Inc said that Magam was rumoured to be an online practice hero.
On January 22 2010 23:04 roMAD wrote: FlaSh is practicing with Effort atm in U.S. West and winning 2:0 >.>
how do you know these things;)
Have some progamer friends and flash and effort are both in the same game, and i've followed flash's date of win I've been asking everybody if they know who Jaedong practices with and so far i've learned that neither Sea nor Mind, nor Leta practice with him go.go said Jaedong practices only with his teammates T.T
On January 21 2010 18:39 Scaramanga wrote: [quote] Its been said heaps before that magma was insanely good in pratice games, having about a 65% winrate vs both JD and Flash
Who told you that? I am gonna ask FancY about that later.
LOL!! wow.. try and unjumble these letters.. and u'll find the true meaning..
G U L L I B E L
Oh man, -_- im not joking Since i've been on tl the rumor that Mamga was a beast has been thrown around heaps, it was said alot when he qualified into the msl a few seasons ago. In the group selections alot of the players said that magma was really good in pratice
Who told you about the winrate %?
The same people that have told me magma owns offline, if you read as much tl as i do you pick up on these things
I heard that he had ~50% winrate vs FlaSh. Haven't heard anything about 65 and Jaedong. And why does it matter anyway?
Nono. I reckon the only mention of Magam beeing a practice hero is from Incontrol in a replay comment he posted there of a replay of Magma vs Bisu on bluestorm where Bisu got pwned.
Inc said that Magam was rumoured to be an online practice hero.
On January 22 2010 09:34 piratebay wrote: you guys all forget during saviors reign, his fucking peak, he was INVINCIBLE.
you enter watching a match, knowing that your liquibet is 100% safe, that savior will pull through ANY BoX he encounters.
after that epic final ( well epic rape by savior ) everyone was thinking, wow, savior is unstoppable, he is a force of nature, he is the fucking maestro, no way he can be taken down.
and wah lah~ via history we know it just aint true.
i predict jaedong 3-1. jaedong will have something hidden up his sleeve (maybe double muta groups?) but dont expect him to go down without a fight!
Yeah, but bisu didn't 2-0 savior in the OSL before their MSL finals
I think the reason Jaedong is so good is because he gets confidence from his practice. Flash may be practicing with Effort, but he probably drops a few games and then is unsure about how he will do against Jaedong. Meanwhile Jaedong wins EVERY SINGLE practice game against the likes of Lomo and then goes into the finals ready to kick some ass.
I that that strategy wise, Jaedong will probably play 12 pool every game until he sees flash cheese him, because frankly, Flash probably doesn't have enough time to prepare long term games for all 5. Given that, Jaedong will probably win because he would win one on Flash's cheese, and be up at least one.
go.go said Jaedong practices only with his teammates T.T
He will be so Wraithproof!
Remember that interview where right after beating Leta's 2-port wraith, Jaedong boasted that Lomo was better at it anyway and that the game had been easy?
go.go said Jaedong practices only with his teammates T.T
He will be so Wraithproof!
Remember that interview where right after beating Leta's 2-port wraith, Jaedong boasted that Lomo was better at it anyway and that the game had been easy?
Yeah, Lomo has really good wraith micro. And that's about everything you can say about him.
it's voilà. I'm usually not grammar guy, but so many people are using this word without having any idea what it is or how it's spelled, it makes me minirage
Anyway you are very right about expectations and how they play out (or don't). The favorite does get demolished sometimes. And yet I am going to ignore all that and say "not this time". This is Flash's for the taking
i like saying wahllahh~ in real life. i know viola, but i literally put the w consanent instead of the weaker v sound. i dont know thats just me. i just hate viola, that soft v just annoys me lol.
jaedong will crush flash though, that i am willing into existence lol.
on a side note, how the FUCK does jaedong do so well when he mostly practices with his teammates?
On January 23 2010 00:11 QuakerOats wrote: I think the reason Jaedong is so good is because he gets confidence from his practice. Flash may be practicing with Effort, but he probably drops a few games and then is unsure about how he will do against Jaedong. Meanwhile Jaedong wins EVERY SINGLE practice game against the likes of Lomo and then goes into the finals ready to kick some ass.
yeah and then when he gets raped by flash and doesn't know what hit him, he will be like wtf is this kid
its like playing 100% win vs computer, then going to a human and getting owned and having no idea what to do afterwards
On January 23 2010 00:11 QuakerOats wrote: I think the reason Jaedong is so good is because he gets confidence from his practice. Flash may be practicing with Effort, but he probably drops a few games and then is unsure about how he will do against Jaedong. Meanwhile Jaedong wins EVERY SINGLE practice game against the likes of Lomo and then goes into the finals ready to kick some ass.
yeah and then when he gets raped by flash and doesn't know what hit him, he will be like wtf is this kid
its like playing 100% win vs computer, then going to a human and getting owned and having no idea what to do afterwards
On January 23 2010 00:11 QuakerOats wrote: I think the reason Jaedong is so good is because he gets confidence from his practice. Flash may be practicing with Effort, but he probably drops a few games and then is unsure about how he will do against Jaedong. Meanwhile Jaedong wins EVERY SINGLE practice game against the likes of Lomo and then goes into the finals ready to kick some ass.
yeah and then when he gets raped by flash and doesn't know what hit him, he will be like wtf is this kid
its like playing 100% win vs computer, then going to a human and getting owned and having no idea what to do afterwards
On January 23 2010 00:11 QuakerOats wrote: I think the reason Jaedong is so good is because he gets confidence from his practice. Flash may be practicing with Effort, but he probably drops a few games and then is unsure about how he will do against Jaedong. Meanwhile Jaedong wins EVERY SINGLE practice game against the likes of Lomo and then goes into the finals ready to kick some ass.
yeah and then when he gets raped by flash and doesn't know what hit him, he will be like wtf is this kid
its like playing 100% win vs computer, then going to a human and getting owned and having no idea what to do afterwards
aw too bad it was the other way around maybe next time
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