• Log InLog In
  • Register
Liquid`
Team Liquid Liquipedia
EDT 14:31
CEST 20:31
KST 03:31
  • Home
  • Forum
  • Calendar
  • Streams
  • Liquipedia
  • Features
  • Store
  • EPT
  • TL+
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Smash
  • Heroes
  • Counter-Strike
  • Overwatch
  • Liquibet
  • Fantasy StarCraft
  • TLPD
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Blogs
Forum Sidebar
Events/Features
News
Featured News
Maestros of the Game: Live Finals Preview (RO4)4TL.net Map Contest #21 - Finalists4Team TLMC #5: Vote to Decide Ladder Maps!0[ASL20] Ro8 Preview Pt1: Mile High15Team TLMC #5 - Finalists & Open Tournaments2
Community News
herO joins T121Artosis vs Ret Showmatch39Classic wins RSL Revival Season 22Weekly Cups (Sept 15-21): herO Goes For Four2SC2 5.0.15 PTR Patch Notes + Sept 22nd update290
StarCraft 2
General
Had to smile :) Maestros of the Game: Live Finals Preview (RO4) herO joins T1 Storm change is a essentially a strict buff on PTR SC2 5.0.15 PTR Patch Notes + Sept 22nd update
Tourneys
Maestros of The Game—$20k event w/ live finals in Paris SC2's Safe House 2 - October 18 & 19 Master Swan Open (Global Bronze-Master 2) Sparkling Tuna Cup - Weekly Open Tournament Prome's Evo #1 - Solar vs Classic (SC: Evo)
Strategy
Custom Maps
External Content
Mutation # 492 Get Out More Mutation # 491 Night Drive Mutation # 490 Masters of Midnight Mutation # 489 Bannable Offense
Brood War
General
Artosis vs Ret Showmatch BGH Auto Balance -> http://bghmmr.eu/ ASL20 General Discussion SC uni coach streams logging into betting site StarCraft 1 Beta Test (Video)
Tourneys
[ASL20] Ro8 Day 2 [ASL20] Ro8 Day 1 [Megathread] Daily Proleagues Small VOD Thread 2.0
Strategy
Current Meta Simple Questions, Simple Answers Muta micro map competition
Other Games
General Games
Stormgate/Frost Giant Megathread Nintendo Switch Thread Path of Exile Liquipedia App: Now Covering SC2 and Brood War! Beyond All Reason
Dota 2
Official 'what is Dota anymore' discussion LiquidDota to reintegrate into TL.net
League of Legends
Heroes of the Storm
Simple Questions, Simple Answers Heroes of the Storm 2.0
Hearthstone
Deck construction bug Heroes of StarCraft mini-set
TL Mafia
TL Mafia Community Thread
Community
General
US Politics Mega-thread Russo-Ukrainian War Thread Things Aren’t Peaceful in Palestine The Big Programming Thread Trading/Investing Thread
Fan Clubs
The herO Fan Club! The Happy Fan Club!
Media & Entertainment
Movie Discussion! Anime Discussion Thread [Manga] One Piece
Sports
2024 - 2026 Football Thread Formula 1 Discussion TeamLiquid Health and Fitness Initiative For 2023 MLB/Baseball 2023
World Cup 2022
Tech Support
SC2 Client Relocalization [Change SC2 Language] Linksys AE2500 USB WIFI keeps disconnecting Computer Build, Upgrade & Buying Resource Thread
TL Community
The Automated Ban List BarCraft in Tokyo Japan for ASL Season5 Final
Blogs
[AI] Sorry, Chill, My Bad :…
Peanutsc
Try to reverse getting fired …
Garnet
[ASL20] Players bad at pi…
pullarius1
Customize Sidebar...

Website Feedback

Closed Threads



Active: 819 users

Kal vs Jaedong Hype - Page 3

Forum Index > BW General
126 CommentsPost a Reply
Prev 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 Next All
7mk
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
Germany10157 Posts
January 14 2010 12:54 GMT
#41
gj, frontpage material imho
beep boop
dibban
Profile Joined July 2008
Sweden1279 Posts
January 14 2010 13:06 GMT
#42
GJ. This is going to be a worthy semifinal.
이제동 - 이영호 since '07.
Loanshark
Profile Blog Joined December 2008
China3094 Posts
January 14 2010 13:06 GMT
#43
Bet on Jaedong!!!
No dough, no go. And no mercy.
StuDToSs
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
116 Posts
January 14 2010 13:27 GMT
#44
you got kal's PvZ record mixed up with his PvP OP
imweakless
Profile Blog Joined September 2009
757 Posts
January 14 2010 14:35 GMT
#45
Gogo JD. let them realize that your the best!
KMK,Qri,GsD#1, UEE,stork jangbi for life!
torm3ntin
Profile Joined October 2009
Brazil2534 Posts
January 14 2010 15:04 GMT
#46
I think this post gives too much credit for Kal...

Even his statistics shows he don't have a clue what to do against JD...

RAPED SHALL HE BE YOUNG MY PADWAN
Grubby and Ret fan, but a TERRAN player :D
Salteador Neo
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
Andorra5591 Posts
January 14 2010 16:43 GMT
#47
I hope Kal doesnt crush down too hard when he loses this ><
Revolutionist fan
ccou
Profile Joined December 2008
United States681 Posts
January 14 2010 16:51 GMT
#48
I want to see Kal win at least the first game because the transformation into Smugface Smugfington is always funny.
Wake up Mr. B!
Rigodon666
Profile Joined November 2006
Canada183 Posts
January 14 2010 16:56 GMT
#49
I should have made my video about the MSL instead of OSL -_-
I'll call the guy who will call Nada
merz
Profile Blog Joined July 2004
Sweden2760 Posts
January 14 2010 16:56 GMT
#50
I just want Jaedong to win so Flash can stomp him in the finals. We've already got a TvP final in the OSL, lets have a TvZ one here ;D!
Winners never quit, quitters never win.
torm3ntin
Profile Joined October 2009
Brazil2534 Posts
January 14 2010 17:42 GMT
#51
the point is that if Flash doesn't play an S class player like Jaedong ppl will allways tell he had an easy opponent at the finals.

But if he does make it against JD no one will ever say something like that
Grubby and Ret fan, but a TERRAN player :D
flamewheel
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
FREEAGLELAND26781 Posts
January 14 2010 18:18 GMT
#52
Great writeup!

Though yeah I think Jaedong is going to... crush Kal. Oh well ZvP is always my favourite matchup to watch (and worst to play )
Writerdamn, i was two days from retirement
diehilde
Profile Joined September 2008
Germany1596 Posts
January 14 2010 18:32 GMT
#53
great op! probably a bit over the top with the kal fanboyism though, jd vs kal more exciting than a possible jd vs flash? big LOL
Savior: "I will cheat everyone again in SC2!" - SCII Beta Tester
TwoToneTerran
Profile Joined March 2009
United States8841 Posts
January 14 2010 18:38 GMT
#54
On January 15 2010 02:42 torm3ntin wrote:
the point is that if Flash doesn't play an S class player like Jaedong ppl will allways tell he had an easy opponent at the finals.

But if he does make it against JD no one will ever say something like that


Kal's chances vs Flash are pretty similar to Jaedong's, honestly.

I mean, Flash is better at TvZ than TvP, but Jaedong's ZvT is probably stronger than Kal's PvT, in general, so pretty even. Add the fact that maps are pretty good for TvZ and Kal's got the unorthodox goods that end up beating Flash in TvP and I honestly might say that Kal is a bigger challenge.

The only reason it isn't though is because it's a Bo5 and, well, Jaedong in Bo5 IS Jaedong in a Bo5, noone else like him.
Remember Violet.
On_Slaught
Profile Joined August 2008
United States12190 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-01-14 19:11:44
January 14 2010 19:06 GMT
#55
Pretty absurd to say that the MSL match is in any way diminished because JD lost in a bo3 to Flash in the OSL.

Considering what is on the line, how little pratice Flash will get working on the OSL, and how much better JD is in bo5s over bo3s, to not think that this final wouldn't be significantly larger than the OSL quarters meeting is foolish. On top of that, when Flash wins the OSL, it will add another wrinkle to the MSL since he will be playing to be the first player to win both SLs within a week of eachother.

I can appreciate the hype trying to build up this match, but honestly I don't see Kal as having a chance. Considering Jaedongs ZvP looks as strong as Flash's TvT or TvZ, and how great he is in bo5s, it shouldn't be close.

Funny side note, as you mentioned JDs 11 ZvP winning streak started with Kal. Also, his last ZvP win was against Kal with a hydra-break beat down over him a few days ago in PL. That psychological blow can't help Kal. Losing 5 straight games to someone, with no sign of closing the gap, is not indicative of a close MU.

/flame suit on
timmeh
Profile Joined September 2009
Austria177 Posts
January 14 2010 19:21 GMT
#56
Wanna see Kal do well. Doubt he can put up a proper fight though
;o
asdfTT123
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
United States989 Posts
January 14 2010 19:35 GMT
#57
Jaedong FTW!! GOGOGOGOGO!
n.Die_Jaedong <3
thopol
Profile Blog Joined May 2008
Japan4560 Posts
January 14 2010 20:15 GMT
#58
On January 14 2010 22:27 StuDToSs wrote:
you got kal's PvZ record mixed up with his PvP OP

Ah yeah, thanks.

On January 15 2010 04:06 On_Slaught wrote:
Funny side note, as you mentioned JDs 11 ZvP winning streak started with Kal. Also, his last ZvP win was against Kal with a hydra-break beat down over him a few days ago in PL.

Yeah, I mention that.

I really think that our overall desire for a Jaedong Flash final is getting in the way of some of our thinking about this. People are saying Match Point will be Kal's only win, but Ultimatum is not to be overlooked.

Now I certainly think that Jaedong is the favorite to win here. I am careful with my language in the OP to not make conclusions about who will win which game, just how they might go. I tried to take things from a very balanced standpoint. Because so many people think that this will be a total roll, a neutral standpoint seems very Kal biased. I don't deny that I am hoping Kal plays very well and takes it to the 5th game, but I don't think of this as a Kal hype article as much as a hype article for the match.
Kenpachi
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
United States9908 Posts
January 14 2010 20:28 GMT
#59
even if Match Point favors P in PvZ, Jaedong is known to destroy on any map he wishes to destroy on... cept HBR
Nada's body is South Korea's greatest weapon.
DreaM)XeRO
Profile Blog Joined December 2008
Korea (South)4667 Posts
January 14 2010 21:06 GMT
#60
<3 oy vey
this isnt as big as Bisu vs jaedong but imo this should be as good as if not better
PvZ has always been Kal's marquee matchup
cw)minsean(ru
Prev 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 Next All
Please log in or register to reply.
Live Events Refresh
[BSL 2025] Weekly
18:00
#15
LiquipediaDiscussion
PSISTORM Gaming Misc
17:00
FSL PTR games!
Liquipedia
Maestros of the Game
12:00
Offline Playoffs - Top 4
Serral vs ReynorLIVE!
Clem vs TBD
ComeBackTV 4268
RotterdaM2520
PiGStarcraft1074
IndyStarCraft 411
CosmosSc2 264
SteadfastSC225
Rex155
CranKy Ducklings123
EnkiAlexander 100
3DClanTV 96
IntoTheiNu 39
LiquipediaDiscussion
[ Submit Event ]
Live Streams
Refresh
StarCraft 2
RotterdaM 2520
PiGStarcraft1074
IndyStarCraft 411
CosmosSc2 264
SteadfastSC 225
Rex 155
UpATreeSC 79
MindelVK 37
StarCraft: Brood War
Calm 4896
Rain 2704
ZZZero.O 230
ggaemo 114
ToSsGirL 61
Hyun 58
Rock 41
JYJ37
Sacsri 32
sas.Sziky 23
[ Show more ]
Killer 22
KwarK 11
Counter-Strike
byalli2323
fl0m1401
Stewie2K108
Super Smash Bros
Mew2King43
Heroes of the Storm
Liquid`Hasu414
Other Games
gofns22198
tarik_tv20432
qojqva2260
Grubby506
B2W.Neo469
KnowMe131
QueenE97
ArmadaUGS71
Trikslyr56
NeuroSwarm38
EmSc Tv 15
fpsfer 1
Organizations
Other Games
EGCTV1386
gamesdonequick595
EmSc Tv 15
StarCraft 2
EmSc2Tv 15
Blizzard YouTube
StarCraft: Brood War
BSLTrovo
sctven
[ Show 21 non-featured ]
StarCraft 2
• printf 28
• Airneanach6
• Migwel
• Kozan
• intothetv
• IndyKCrew
• LaughNgamezSOOP
• AfreecaTV YouTube
• sooper7s
StarCraft: Brood War
• Azhi_Dahaki17
• 80smullet 12
• HerbMon 10
• BSLYoutube
• STPLYoutube
• ZZZeroYoutube
Dota 2
• C_a_k_e 2720
• masondota21082
League of Legends
• Jankos1955
Other Games
• imaqtpie1267
• WagamamaTV460
• Shiphtur187
Upcoming Events
Replay Cast
15h 29m
BSL Team Wars
1d
Team Bonyth vs Team Sziky
BSL
1d 2h
Artosis vs Sziky
Afreeca Starleague
1d 15h
Soma vs BeSt
Wardi Open
1d 16h
OSC
2 days
Sparkling Tuna Cup
2 days
Afreeca Starleague
2 days
Bisu vs Larva
LiuLi Cup
3 days
OSC
3 days
[ Show More ]
The PondCast
4 days
Wardi Open
5 days
[BSL 2025] Weekly
6 days
[BSL 2025] Weekly
6 days
Safe House 2
6 days
Liquipedia Results

Completed

Proleague 2025-09-25
RSL Revival: Season 2
HCC Europe

Ongoing

BSL 20 Team Wars
KCM Race Survival 2025 Season 3
BSL 21 Points
ASL Season 20
CSL 2025 AUTUMN (S18)
Maestros of the Game
EC S1
FERJEE Rush 2025
Birch Cup 2025
DraculaN #2
LanDaLan #3
StarSeries Fall 2025
FISSURE Playground #2
BLAST Open Fall 2025
BLAST Open Fall Qual
Esports World Cup 2025
BLAST Bounty Fall 2025
BLAST Bounty Fall Qual
IEM Cologne 2025
FISSURE Playground #1

Upcoming

IPSL Winter 2025-26
SC4ALL: Brood War
BSL 21 Team A
BSL Season 21
RSL Revival: Season 3
Stellar Fest
SC4ALL: StarCraft II
WardiTV TLMC #15
ESL Impact League Season 8
SL Budapest Major 2025
BLAST Rivals Fall 2025
IEM Chengdu 2025
PGL Masters Bucharest 2025
Thunderpick World Champ.
CS Asia Championships 2025
Frag Blocktober 2025
Urban Riga Open #1
ESL Pro League S22
TLPD

1. ByuN
2. TY
3. Dark
4. Solar
5. Stats
6. Nerchio
7. sOs
8. soO
9. INnoVation
10. Elazer
1. Rain
2. Flash
3. EffOrt
4. Last
5. Bisu
6. Soulkey
7. Mini
8. Sharp
Sidebar Settings...

Advertising | Privacy Policy | Terms Of Use | Contact Us

Original banner artwork: Jim Warren
The contents of this webpage are copyright © 2025 TLnet. All Rights Reserved.