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7mk
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
Germany10157 Posts
January 14 2010 12:54 GMT
#41
gj, frontpage material imho
beep boop
dibban
Profile Joined July 2008
Sweden1279 Posts
January 14 2010 13:06 GMT
#42
GJ. This is going to be a worthy semifinal.
이제동 - 이영호 since '07.
Loanshark
Profile Blog Joined December 2008
China3094 Posts
January 14 2010 13:06 GMT
#43
Bet on Jaedong!!!
No dough, no go. And no mercy.
StuDToSs
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
116 Posts
January 14 2010 13:27 GMT
#44
you got kal's PvZ record mixed up with his PvP OP
imweakless
Profile Blog Joined September 2009
757 Posts
January 14 2010 14:35 GMT
#45
Gogo JD. let them realize that your the best!
KMK,Qri,GsD#1, UEE,stork jangbi for life!
torm3ntin
Profile Joined October 2009
Brazil2534 Posts
January 14 2010 15:04 GMT
#46
I think this post gives too much credit for Kal...

Even his statistics shows he don't have a clue what to do against JD...

RAPED SHALL HE BE YOUNG MY PADWAN
Grubby and Ret fan, but a TERRAN player :D
Salteador Neo
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
Andorra5591 Posts
January 14 2010 16:43 GMT
#47
I hope Kal doesnt crush down too hard when he loses this ><
Revolutionist fan
ccou
Profile Joined December 2008
United States681 Posts
January 14 2010 16:51 GMT
#48
I want to see Kal win at least the first game because the transformation into Smugface Smugfington is always funny.
Wake up Mr. B!
Rigodon666
Profile Joined November 2006
Canada183 Posts
January 14 2010 16:56 GMT
#49
I should have made my video about the MSL instead of OSL -_-
I'll call the guy who will call Nada
merz
Profile Blog Joined July 2004
Sweden2760 Posts
January 14 2010 16:56 GMT
#50
I just want Jaedong to win so Flash can stomp him in the finals. We've already got a TvP final in the OSL, lets have a TvZ one here ;D!
Winners never quit, quitters never win.
torm3ntin
Profile Joined October 2009
Brazil2534 Posts
January 14 2010 17:42 GMT
#51
the point is that if Flash doesn't play an S class player like Jaedong ppl will allways tell he had an easy opponent at the finals.

But if he does make it against JD no one will ever say something like that
Grubby and Ret fan, but a TERRAN player :D
flamewheel
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
FREEAGLELAND26782 Posts
January 14 2010 18:18 GMT
#52
Great writeup!

Though yeah I think Jaedong is going to... crush Kal. Oh well ZvP is always my favourite matchup to watch (and worst to play )
Writerdamn, i was two days from retirement
diehilde
Profile Joined September 2008
Germany1596 Posts
January 14 2010 18:32 GMT
#53
great op! probably a bit over the top with the kal fanboyism though, jd vs kal more exciting than a possible jd vs flash? big LOL
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TwoToneTerran
Profile Joined March 2009
United States8841 Posts
January 14 2010 18:38 GMT
#54
On January 15 2010 02:42 torm3ntin wrote:
the point is that if Flash doesn't play an S class player like Jaedong ppl will allways tell he had an easy opponent at the finals.

But if he does make it against JD no one will ever say something like that


Kal's chances vs Flash are pretty similar to Jaedong's, honestly.

I mean, Flash is better at TvZ than TvP, but Jaedong's ZvT is probably stronger than Kal's PvT, in general, so pretty even. Add the fact that maps are pretty good for TvZ and Kal's got the unorthodox goods that end up beating Flash in TvP and I honestly might say that Kal is a bigger challenge.

The only reason it isn't though is because it's a Bo5 and, well, Jaedong in Bo5 IS Jaedong in a Bo5, noone else like him.
Remember Violet.
On_Slaught
Profile Joined August 2008
United States12190 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-01-14 19:11:44
January 14 2010 19:06 GMT
#55
Pretty absurd to say that the MSL match is in any way diminished because JD lost in a bo3 to Flash in the OSL.

Considering what is on the line, how little pratice Flash will get working on the OSL, and how much better JD is in bo5s over bo3s, to not think that this final wouldn't be significantly larger than the OSL quarters meeting is foolish. On top of that, when Flash wins the OSL, it will add another wrinkle to the MSL since he will be playing to be the first player to win both SLs within a week of eachother.

I can appreciate the hype trying to build up this match, but honestly I don't see Kal as having a chance. Considering Jaedongs ZvP looks as strong as Flash's TvT or TvZ, and how great he is in bo5s, it shouldn't be close.

Funny side note, as you mentioned JDs 11 ZvP winning streak started with Kal. Also, his last ZvP win was against Kal with a hydra-break beat down over him a few days ago in PL. That psychological blow can't help Kal. Losing 5 straight games to someone, with no sign of closing the gap, is not indicative of a close MU.

/flame suit on
timmeh
Profile Joined September 2009
Austria177 Posts
January 14 2010 19:21 GMT
#56
Wanna see Kal do well. Doubt he can put up a proper fight though
;o
asdfTT123
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
United States989 Posts
January 14 2010 19:35 GMT
#57
Jaedong FTW!! GOGOGOGOGO!
n.Die_Jaedong <3
thopol
Profile Blog Joined May 2008
Japan4560 Posts
January 14 2010 20:15 GMT
#58
On January 14 2010 22:27 StuDToSs wrote:
you got kal's PvZ record mixed up with his PvP OP

Ah yeah, thanks.

On January 15 2010 04:06 On_Slaught wrote:
Funny side note, as you mentioned JDs 11 ZvP winning streak started with Kal. Also, his last ZvP win was against Kal with a hydra-break beat down over him a few days ago in PL.

Yeah, I mention that.

I really think that our overall desire for a Jaedong Flash final is getting in the way of some of our thinking about this. People are saying Match Point will be Kal's only win, but Ultimatum is not to be overlooked.

Now I certainly think that Jaedong is the favorite to win here. I am careful with my language in the OP to not make conclusions about who will win which game, just how they might go. I tried to take things from a very balanced standpoint. Because so many people think that this will be a total roll, a neutral standpoint seems very Kal biased. I don't deny that I am hoping Kal plays very well and takes it to the 5th game, but I don't think of this as a Kal hype article as much as a hype article for the match.
Kenpachi
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
United States9908 Posts
January 14 2010 20:28 GMT
#59
even if Match Point favors P in PvZ, Jaedong is known to destroy on any map he wishes to destroy on... cept HBR
Nada's body is South Korea's greatest weapon.
DreaM)XeRO
Profile Blog Joined December 2008
Korea (South)4667 Posts
January 14 2010 21:06 GMT
#60
<3 oy vey
this isnt as big as Bisu vs jaedong but imo this should be as good as if not better
PvZ has always been Kal's marquee matchup
cw)minsean(ru
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