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dukethegold
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
Canada5645 Posts
January 07 2010 17:51 GMT
#21
On January 08 2010 02:45 Atrioc wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 08 2010 02:16 [Azn]Nada wrote:
3rd - JangBi - 56W 25L - 69.1%
4th - Stork - 55W 33L - 62.5%
5th - Kal - 55W 39L - 58.5%
6th - BeSt - 52W 22L - 71.1%
7th - Bisu - 51W 32L - 61.4%

Haha I remember back in those days, I stopped watching SC if there was protoss because it was generally a one sided rape. First 6 Protoss dragons, now 4 zerg, where are all the terrans?


I've never seen a year where Terran was truly in a bad spot, though they are short on Starleague titles as of late.


Even more indication that Flash shall be the Savior.
Nevuk
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
United States16280 Posts
January 07 2010 17:52 GMT
#22
Free still has really good micro. He's actually very consistent if you notice. (His 57.8% winrate repeats itself twice in those two years). It is a consistent inconsistency, but there's a reason he's on all 3 lists when one dragon is only one (Best) and the only others on all 3 are Bisu/Stork.
siv00
Profile Joined September 2009
261 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-01-07 17:58:01
January 07 2010 17:56 GMT
#23
On January 08 2010 02:52 Nevuk wrote:
Free still has really good micro. He's actually very consistent if you notice. (His 57.8% winrate repeats itself twice in those two years). It is a consistent inconsistency, but there's a reason he's on all 3 lists when one dragon is only one (Best) and the only others on all 3 are Bisu/Stork.


BeSt had yet to really break out in 2007 I think. Then he slumped hard after EVER 2008.
Nevuk
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
United States16280 Posts
January 07 2010 18:02 GMT
#24
On January 08 2010 02:56 siv00 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 08 2010 02:52 Nevuk wrote:
Free still has really good micro. He's actually very consistent if you notice. (His 57.8% winrate repeats itself twice in those two years). It is a consistent inconsistency, but there's a reason he's on all 3 lists when one dragon is only one (Best) and the only others on all 3 are Bisu/Stork.


BeSt had yet to really break out in 2007 I think. Then he slumped hard after EVER 2008.

Yeah, that's kind of the point. Free is the only dragon to go without massive slumps. He has them but they only last like 3 months rather than Jangbi's half-year or Best's eons. Even when he started performing poorly for the last few months of last year it was only in his formerly best MU (PvZ) while he took his pvt to new heights. Plus he's the only one to have made Jaedong look silly in zvp in a series.
SuperArc
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
Austria7781 Posts
January 07 2010 18:05 GMT
#25
On January 08 2010 03:02 Nevuk wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 08 2010 02:56 siv00 wrote:
On January 08 2010 02:52 Nevuk wrote:
Free still has really good micro. He's actually very consistent if you notice. (His 57.8% winrate repeats itself twice in those two years). It is a consistent inconsistency, but there's a reason he's on all 3 lists when one dragon is only one (Best) and the only others on all 3 are Bisu/Stork.


BeSt had yet to really break out in 2007 I think. Then he slumped hard after EVER 2008.

Yeah, that's kind of the point. Free is the only dragon to go without massive slumps. He has them but they only last like 3 months rather than Jangbi's half-year or Best's eons. Even when he started performing poorly for the last few months of last year it was only in his formerly best MU (PvZ) while he took his pvt to new heights. Plus he's the only one to have made Jaedong look silly in zvp in a series.


Rock >_>
Snow - future of protoss! :) Nada = baller
Mykill
Profile Blog Joined February 2009
Canada3402 Posts
January 07 2010 18:06 GMT
#26
you'll notice that in 2009
one of the six dragons was killed
[~~The Impossible Leads To Invention~~] CJ Entusman #52 The problem with internet quotations is that they are hard to verify -Abraham Lincoln c.1863
HaXXspetten
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
Sweden15718 Posts
January 07 2010 18:09 GMT
#27
Flash will pwn all these numbers in 2010
siv00
Profile Joined September 2009
261 Posts
January 07 2010 18:09 GMT
#28
On January 08 2010 03:02 Nevuk wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 08 2010 02:56 siv00 wrote:
On January 08 2010 02:52 Nevuk wrote:
Free still has really good micro. He's actually very consistent if you notice. (His 57.8% winrate repeats itself twice in those two years). It is a consistent inconsistency, but there's a reason he's on all 3 lists when one dragon is only one (Best) and the only others on all 3 are Bisu/Stork.


BeSt had yet to really break out in 2007 I think. Then he slumped hard after EVER 2008.

Yeah, that's kind of the point. Free is the only dragon to go without massive slumps. He has them but they only last like 3 months rather than Jangbi's half-year or Best's eons. Even when he started performing poorly for the last few months of last year it was only in his formerly best MU (PvZ) while he took his pvt to new heights. Plus he's the only one to have made Jaedong look silly in zvp in a series.


I mean BeSt only being on one list is irrelevant when he wasn't really considered good until 08.
Sosha
Profile Joined August 2004
United States749 Posts
January 07 2010 18:14 GMT
#29
ahhh 2008, the year of the Dragons.
*sigh*
alas, I don't think they're as highly reguarded or successful as of late.
Was good times though!
Tranquility through fluid Motion. GlowBabyGlow.
NiGoL
Profile Joined September 2008
1868 Posts
January 07 2010 18:14 GMT
#30
god konadora FTW ffs, great info i just needed it.
http://www.twitter.com/NiGoLBW playing league on a competitive level
ghostWriter
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
United States3302 Posts
January 07 2010 18:24 GMT
#31
It's interesting to see who stays consistently on top. But win/loss ratio isn't always a good indication of skill. Sometimes a player is really good, but doesn't get the wins to prove it, similar to Really before this season, Free, Skyhigh recently, Jangbi, etc.

Winning in the practice room is very different from winning on TV.
Sullifam
NiGoL
Profile Joined September 2008
1868 Posts
January 07 2010 18:34 GMT
#32
On January 08 2010 03:24 ghostWriter wrote:
It's interesting to see who stays consistently on top. But win/loss ratio isn't always a good indication of skill. Sometimes a player is really good, but doesn't get the wins to prove it, similar to Really before this season, Free, Skyhigh recently, Jangbi, etc.

Winning in the practice room is very different from winning on TV.



of course its different winning on TV
but win-ratio matters as hell since it shows how stabile you are.
http://www.twitter.com/NiGoLBW playing league on a competitive level
BanZu
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
United States3329 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-01-07 18:46:34
January 07 2010 18:46 GMT
#33
On January 08 2010 03:24 ghostWriter wrote:
It's interesting to see who stays consistently on top. But win/loss ratio isn't always a good indication of skill. Sometimes a player is really good, but doesn't get the wins to prove it, similar to Really before this season, Free, Skyhigh recently, Jangbi, etc.

Winning in the practice room is very different from winning on TV.

Unfortunately it doesn't mean too much because I'm absolutely ballin' at Track and Field practice but I can't do squat at a meet.

Sure you're good but what matters is what you bring to the table. How well you do under pressure is part of the game and the measure of skill.
Sun Tzu once said, "Defiler becomes useless at the presences of a vessel."
NiGoL
Profile Joined September 2008
1868 Posts
January 07 2010 18:52 GMT
#34
On January 08 2010 03:46 BanZu wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 08 2010 03:24 ghostWriter wrote:
It's interesting to see who stays consistently on top. But win/loss ratio isn't always a good indication of skill. Sometimes a player is really good, but doesn't get the wins to prove it, similar to Really before this season, Free, Skyhigh recently, Jangbi, etc.

Winning in the practice room is very different from winning on TV.

Unfortunately it doesn't mean too much because I'm absolutely ballin' at Track and Field practice but I can't do squat at a meet.

Sure you're good but what matters is what you bring to the table. How well you do under pressure is part of the game and the measure of skill.


seriously what do you actually mean?
http://www.twitter.com/NiGoLBW playing league on a competitive level
Weryeery
Profile Joined June 2008
288 Posts
January 07 2010 18:59 GMT
#35
WTF...
Jaedong played almost 1.5 more times than his direct concurrents and he still have the best ratio?
How the fuck is this possible oO
SuperArc
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
Austria7781 Posts
January 07 2010 19:09 GMT
#36
On January 08 2010 03:59 Weryeery wrote:
WTF...
Jaedong played almost 1.5 more times than his direct concurrents and he still have the best ratio?
How the fuck is this possible oO


Jaedong was a monster in 2009. Just like Flash will be in 2010
Snow - future of protoss! :) Nada = baller
BanZu
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
United States3329 Posts
January 07 2010 19:16 GMT
#37
On January 08 2010 03:52 NiGoL wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 08 2010 03:46 BanZu wrote:
On January 08 2010 03:24 ghostWriter wrote:
It's interesting to see who stays consistently on top. But win/loss ratio isn't always a good indication of skill. Sometimes a player is really good, but doesn't get the wins to prove it, similar to Really before this season, Free, Skyhigh recently, Jangbi, etc.

Winning in the practice room is very different from winning on TV.

Unfortunately it doesn't mean too much because I'm absolutely ballin' at Track and Field practice but I can't do squat at a meet.

Sure you're good but what matters is what you bring to the table. How well you do under pressure is part of the game and the measure of skill.


seriously what do you actually mean?

You can be a beast during practice, like Magma was, but in the end, if you can't bring your results to games that matter, it doesn't mean much (like with Magma).

What's so hard to understand about my last post anyway? I'm not sure what you're not comprehending. :/
Sun Tzu once said, "Defiler becomes useless at the presences of a vessel."
vx70GTOJudgexv
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
United States3161 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-01-07 19:42:44
January 07 2010 19:42 GMT
#38
Protoss on all 3 lists: (P)Bisu, (P)Stork, free
Zerg on all 3 lists: (Z)Jaedong, (Z)Luxury, Yarnc
Terran on all 3 lists: (T)Flash, (T)Hwasin

Just thought that might be interesting to see.

e: TLPD-ized
(-_-) BW for ever. #1 Iris fan.
Jyvblamo
Profile Blog Joined June 2006
Canada13788 Posts
January 07 2010 20:00 GMT
#39
Is Winners League solely responsible for the large jump in number of games played from 2008 to 2009, or were there other factors at work here?
spydernoob
Profile Blog Joined April 2008
Canada1066 Posts
January 07 2010 20:03 GMT
#40
i miss the days when fbh was awesome (against terran and zerg, he was always bad against toss)
wraiths go pew pew
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