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l10f *
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
United States3241 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-12-15 22:12:02
December 04 2009 21:25 GMT
#1
Sup? Don't bump this, thanks.

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Banner thanks to RaptorX!


Signup is now closed! Click for News and Announcements, as well as the teams!



From the massive amount of interest we've received from the previous thread about EsX_Raptor's amazing idea, I think it'll be safe to say we'll have enough people to run this league. Remember to sign up only if you know you're definitely willing to spend time and effort required.

Regarding the format of this league, we would like to leave most of it to the TL members by having polls!



Eligibility

The very first thing that we have to go over is the eligibility. There have been many suggestions such as number of games required. I personally think that it would result in less people dropping out in the middle of the league, and I think it's a good idea.

I personally think High D+ should be the cap for the players, but a lot of C- players seem to want to participate as well.

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Poll: Minimum games requirements?
(Vote): None
(Vote): At least 10
(Vote): At least 30
(Vote): At least 50


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Poll: Maximum rank allowed as a player?
(Vote): D
(Vote): D+
(Vote): C-
(Vote): C





Teams


And once we have the players, how to divide them can be a problem. I think we should have everyone list the times they can practice during the week when they sign up, and we can put the people who can play around the same time in the same team. Of course we would still consider ranks/races to make the teams fair.

Also, how many players to a team? I think 6 is a very good number, because that way everyone will be able to participate, and there aren't that many players for the coaches. If one person cannot participate for a week, there will always be someone else to fill up the spot.

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Poll: How do we divide up the players?
(Vote): Simple random placement
(Vote): By available time/Races played/iCCup ranks
(Vote): Have a ranking tournament, then distribute evenly
(Vote): Coaches' picks

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Poll: How many players to a team?
(Vote): 4 (minimum)
(Vote): 5
(Vote): 6
(Vote): 7
(Vote): 8





Coaches


Another thing that came up often is how to make the coach distributions fair, since we have coaches that want to participate from C to B+/A- range. Also, should we allow the coaches to pair up because it would be difficult for a single person to manage and coach many different players?

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Poll: Allow more than 1 coach for a team?
(Vote): No, only one coach per team.
(Vote): Yes, each team has two coaches.
(Vote): Yes, coaches can decide if they want to pair up or not.






Format


I think everyone agrees on the format of Proleague style Bo5 with ace matches, but we have to pick the maps. I think 6 or 7 maps in the pool would be ideal. Also, depending on how many teams we get, we might have to separate the teams into two divisions, and then a final playoff between the top teams.

The matches will take place every Saturday at 14:00 (2PM) EST or 20:00 (8PM) CET. The matches will most likely begin in January, but it depends on when we get everything together.

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Poll: Number of maps in the pool?
(Vote): 5 (minumum)
(Vote): 6
(Vote): 7
(Vote): 8

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Poll: Which maps to use?
(Vote): Heartbreak Ridge
(Vote): Outsider SE
(Vote): Destination
(Vote): Python
(Vote): Andromeda
(Vote): Blue Storm
(Vote): Fighting Spirit
(Vote): Moon Glaive
(Vote): Match Point
(Vote): Collosseum 2
(Vote): God's Garden
(Vote): Longinus

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Poll: How much practice time before league starts?
(Vote): 2 Weeks (December 26th)
(Vote): 1 Month (January 9th)
(Vote): 1 Month and 2 Weeks (January 23rd)
(Vote): 2 Months (February 6th)








Signing up


Again, if you're really planning on playing throughout the whole league please sign up using the following models by posting on this thread OR by PM if you do not want people to see the information:

Remember to only sign up if you're willing to give up time and effort for this!

Sign up link- CLOSED

We would like to get this going ASAP, so the deadline (as of now) will be Tuesday, December 8th @ 16:00 EST.

After that, we'll post the teams, schedule, final format, and rules. It will most likely run from January to sometime in March, depending on how many teams we get.




Finally, we're looking for stream/casters who are willing to do one match every week. Anyone who would like to help us in organization, or anything else, should also post on this thread/PM.

Please post any suggestion/comments/requests in this thread or PM even if you're not going to participate.

Thank you TL! I think this will be great experience for the players, and I hope it goes well! Remember to vote!

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Pokebunny
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
United States10654 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-12-05 00:04:45
December 04 2009 21:30 GMT
#2
Coach plz k thx :D

Coaches
iCCup Rank: C+
Main Race: Terran
iCCup Name and Link: mG.Pokebunny - C atm but I finished C+ last season and have gotten to ~5400 before.
Available Time: Uhhh... a lot on weekends, afternoon/evening EST on weekdays (like 4-10 pm but some of this time is dedicated to homework/dinner etc)
Location: New York, USA
Preferred Co-coach: SpriteLove (B zerg in case you're worried cause of my level)
How to Contact Outside of TL.net: See my profile
Suggestions/Comments/Requests:
Semipro Terran player | Pokebunny#1710 | twitter.com/Pokebunny | twitch.tv/Pokebunny | facebook.com/PokebunnySC
Ganfei
Profile Blog Joined August 2008
Taiwan1439 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-12-04 21:33:57
December 04 2009 21:31 GMT
#3
Coach

iCCup Rank: at least B-, haven't pushed my limits past there in a long time to say anything else
Main Race: TvZ, TvP, ZvT
iCCup Name and Link: Only name you can see now is Beezie for my matchlist up til C+, explained the rest via PM already
Available Time: evenings probably best during winter break
Preferred Co-coach: anyone with a very "hard" approach to the game, i.e. map knowledge, BO knowledge, the kind of number crunching part
How to Contact Outside of TL.net: PM'd, don't want to put it out here
Suggestions/Comments/Requests: None, looks like fun.
You are crushing me like a cheese sandwich
Gruv
Profile Joined October 2009
United Kingdom379 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-12-04 21:32:44
December 04 2009 21:32 GMT
#4
Player

iCCup Rank: Looooooow D- (Just got back into SC 3 days ago)
Race Played: Zergy Zerg
iCCup Name and Link: http://www.iccup.com/gamingprofile/Gruvry.html
Available Time: Almost all evenings and randomly throughout the week depends on work hours and the like.
How to Contact Outside of TL.net: MSN (will give on request.)
Well butter my biscuit.
Psyonic_Reaver
Profile Blog Joined June 2007
United States4337 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-12-05 01:21:16
December 04 2009 21:35 GMT
#5
Player
iCCup Rank:C-
Race Played: Protoss
iCCup Name and Link: PsyoniCReaveR
Available Time: 24/7 I don't work
How to Contact Outside of TL.net: AIM: PsyReaver188 MSN: schultzbrent@hotmail.com
Suggestions/Comments/Requests: Just be 100% dedicated to this everybody. When we tried this at SC2GG the players just stopped showing up and it wasn't due to bad coaching. We had Salv, Semih and a few others who were doing a great job until it petered out.

I would like to add I can coach as well and I have done it in the past. I'm not a great player but I can spot irregularities in build orders and timings, etc. So maybe I can make a good assi. coach.

I can also stream in HD as well.
So wait? I'm bad? =(
TheFallofTroy
Profile Joined May 2009
Canada780 Posts
December 04 2009 21:35 GMT
#6
Player
iCCup Rank: High D+
Race Played: Protoss
iCCup Name and Link: Machine[eh] http://www.iccup.com/gamingprofile/Machine[Eh].html
Available Time: Mon - Sun (free most of the time)
How to Contact Outside of TL.net: Machine-eh@live.ca
Suggestions/Comments/Requests: Willing to help organize.
^_^V
Pokebunny
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
United States10654 Posts
December 04 2009 21:37 GMT
#7
You should definitely add Location to the signups
Semipro Terran player | Pokebunny#1710 | twitter.com/Pokebunny | twitch.tv/Pokebunny | facebook.com/PokebunnySC
eNoq
Profile Joined June 2009
Netherlands502 Posts
December 04 2009 21:37 GMT
#8
Player

iCCup Rank: D/D+ not quite sure.
Race Played: Zerg
iCCup Name and Link: http://www.iccup.com/gamingprofile/eNoq.html
Available Time: Any day from 16:00 to 02:00 CET (Maybe even later)
How to Contact Outside of TL.net: MSN: ferdi.pro@hotmail.com
Proburu
tYsopz
Profile Joined July 2009
Norway215 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-12-04 21:43:33
December 04 2009 21:37 GMT
#9
Player
iCCup Rank: Low D+
Race Played: TvP, TvZ, PvT.
iCCup Name and Link: tYsopz // http://www.iccup.com/gamingprofile/tysopz.html
Location: Norway
Available Time: Flexible. Weekdays after 16.00 GMT+1 and weekends.
How to Contact Outside of TL.net: (ICCUP, MSN, Facebook)

I will need to know more about how long this league will last and if I have to be online around xmas to participate to be sure I have the time for this.
"I'm going to send them to a far far distant place called Disneyland. Safe and sound at their own convenience, at the fastest and cheapest rate." - Lee Sung Eun
OneOther
Profile Blog Joined August 2004
United States10774 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-12-04 21:41:12
December 04 2009 21:37 GMT
#10
Coach

iCCup Rank: B/B+
Main Race: Protoss
iCCup Name and Link:
http://www.iccup.com/gamingprofile/Ytech.FrOzen.html
http://www.iccup.com/gamingprofile/DerivAtives.html
Available Time: Winter break (PST). Weekend evenings (EST).
Preferred Co-coach: None
How to Contact Outside of TL.net: AIM/Facebook/email
Suggestions/Comments/Requests: Oh I guess I am coaching multiple people.
numLoCK
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
Canada1416 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-12-04 21:41:00
December 04 2009 21:39 GMT
#11
Player

iCCup Rank: high D/low D+, depending on time of season
Race Played: Protoss/Terran
iCCup Name and Link: numLoCKzzz, vIU[Inspired]
Available Time: PST, after 7pm most days (depends on work schedule). With Winter Break I can come on most of the time given sufficient notice.
How to Contact Outside of TL.net: MSN (I'll give to my team or upon request)
Suggestions/Comments/Requests: I think a tournament should be used, and rather than just distributing evenly just have different groups for coaches picks (like coaches pick 2 players from low group, 2 players from mid group, and 2 players from high group)
Pokebunny
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
United States10654 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-12-04 21:44:03
December 04 2009 21:39 GMT
#12
On December 05 2009 06:37 OneOther wrote:
Coach

iCCup Rank: B/B+
Main Race: Protoss
iCCup Name and Link:
http://www.iccup.com/gamingprofile/Ytech.FrOzen.html
http://www.iccup.com/gamingprofile/DerivAtives.html
Available Time: Winter break (PST). Weekend evenings (EST).
Preferred Co-coach: None
How to Contact Outside of TL.net: AIM/Facebook/email
Suggestions/Comments/Requests: I would like a C- Protoss player. Unless you decide to limit to D+, which I absolutely don't see the point of.


Oh, it's on.

BTW you are coaching multiple people... lol
unless for some reason you asked for the 1 specific c- protoss player then you don't care about the rest of your team
Semipro Terran player | Pokebunny#1710 | twitter.com/Pokebunny | twitch.tv/Pokebunny | facebook.com/PokebunnySC
Alur
Profile Blog Joined March 2008
Denmark3900 Posts
December 04 2009 21:40 GMT
#13
Regarding teams i think a combination like "Have a ranking tournament, then distribute evenly taking into account available time/Races played/iCCup ranks" would be optimal, and then use that ranking tournament along with some iccup ladder games to determine eligibility. Voted C- for max, because i have a C- account without have played a single game at that rating.
So by Xeris' definition of "true rank" (http://www.teamliquid.net/blogs/viewblog.php?topic_id=105887) i would be D+, but not literally.

Also making teams by geographic location would be cool since it would bring a sense local pride into things.
AKA No can Dazzle | https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PlTpX7z3Pok
TL+ Member
IceCube
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
Croatia1403 Posts
December 04 2009 21:40 GMT
#14
Player

Rank: D+/C-, high C (reached few seasons back)
iCCup Name and link: http://www.iccup.com/gamingprofile/MoE]berserk[T.html MoE]berserk[T
Available Time: CET workdays post 5PM, weekends anytime
How to contact: MSN will give on request
Forever Vulture.. :(
banana
Profile Joined January 2009
Netherlands1189 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-12-04 21:49:12
December 04 2009 21:43 GMT
#15
Player

iCCup Rank: low D-
Race Played: Zerg/Terran
iCCup Name and Link: http://www.iccup.com/gamingprofile/noth1n.html
Available Time: (GMT+1) : Every day 19.00-03.00, availible most days after uni from 12.00+ - 17.00 but open for anything, can adjust to the coach / timezone even if I have to wake up at 4am.
How to Contact Outside of TL.net: will PM required info if needed
Suggestions/Comments/Requests: posted in other thread

Interested in participating with this event. Secretly been waiting ages for an chance to actually learn to play the game with guidance and possibly show of the progress.

D-, interested in learning Terran or Zerg.

Have not yet activly participated on ICCUP duo to just beeing really bad and having difficulty to find people to play/practice with and set goals for improvement, this seems like an awesome oppertunity to get better.

Loads of spare time(~6+h/day) and willingness to play alot to improve. If there is a required set of games needed to be eligible for a 'coach' I'd be happy to play them on ICCUP (tsl or normal) before this starts.


l10f, thanks for setting this up, I just know alot of players like myself have been dieing for an event like this!
arb
Profile Blog Joined April 2008
Noobville17921 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-12-04 21:47:19
December 04 2009 21:45 GMT
#16
Players
iCCup Rank: mid C-
Race Played: Terran (TvZ/TvP/TvT)
iCCup Name and Link: http://www.iccup.com/gamingprofile/Duplicity.html (got stats on here)
http://www.iccup.com/gamingprofile/mG.arb.html using now
Available Time: any day of the week (eastern standard time USA)
Location:USA
How to Contact Outside of TL.net: msn if you want pm me
Suggestions/Comments/Requests: hope this goes well
Artillery spawned from the forges of Hell
AwarE--
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
United States70 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-12-04 21:47:32
December 04 2009 21:47 GMT
#17
Player

iCCup Rank: D/D+
Main Race: Zerg
iCCup Name and Link:
http://www.iccup.com/gamingprofile/aware[zoi].html
Available Time: Evenings, Weekends (EST)

preferred Coach:
depends who is coaching... any of the zergs ive met would be cool

how to contact outside of tl.net: aim (natedowgg2002)

Suggestions/Comments/Requests: Prefer someone with vent who speaks english, besides that ^^
d3_crescentia
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
United States4054 Posts
December 04 2009 21:49 GMT
#18
Player

iCCup Rank: low D+
Race Played: Zerg
iCCup Name and Link: http://www.iccup.com/gamingprofile/crescentia.html
Available Time: 12AM-5PM EST (subject to employment, see note)
How to Contact Outside of TL.net: whitespark303 (AIM)
Suggestions/Comments/Requests: currently unemployed and looking for a job... if said job is acquired expect hours to change to evenings and weekends
once, not long ago, there was a moon here
excal
Profile Joined August 2009
Canada166 Posts
December 04 2009 21:49 GMT
#19
Players
iCCup Rank: D
Race Played: Protoss (Been messing around with Terran too)
iCCup Name and Link: Aethera http://www.iccup.com/starcraft/gamingprofile/Aethera.html
Available Time: EST 6-12ish, weekends all day
Location: Canada
How to Contact Outside of TL.net: MSN on request, Gtalk on request
Suggestions/Comments/Requests: N/A
Pokebunny
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
United States10654 Posts
December 04 2009 21:52 GMT
#20
OH! thank you AwarE-- reminded me - I would love to use vent with my team as well. :D
Semipro Terran player | Pokebunny#1710 | twitter.com/Pokebunny | twitch.tv/Pokebunny | facebook.com/PokebunnySC
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