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Foucault
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
Sweden2826 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-12-02 20:19:43
December 02 2009 20:02 GMT
#181
On December 03 2009 04:52 meeple wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 03 2009 04:29 khersai wrote:
I don't mean to troll or anything, but
I think that if Ret and Idra are allowed to participate in TSL, the same rules should apply to other korean players. why are they treated exclusively ? just because they werent born in Korea ?
That's not fair (especially with idra, who actually owns progaming license) considering they train 8 hours/day with the best players in the world. They shouldnt be considered foreigners anymore

just my two cents, hoping for great tournament nevertheless


Does Idra have a progaming license? I thought he never went through courage but just got an offer from CJ...


Yeah, and he got it from Estro quite some while ago so no reason to bring that up again

edit: thanks zeep
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iG.Zeep
Profile Joined May 2008
Mexico253 Posts
December 02 2009 20:06 GMT
#182
he got it from estro
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WeSt
Profile Blog Joined April 2008
Portugal918 Posts
December 02 2009 20:12 GMT
#183
Yep I thought the same... ret should be allowed to play but idra has been a progamer for well over a year.
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eXigent.
Profile Blog Joined February 2007
Canada2419 Posts
December 02 2009 20:27 GMT
#184
On December 03 2009 05:12 WeSt wrote:
Yep I thought the same... ret should be allowed to play but idra has been a progamer for well over a year.


yeah, but he's been a part of the community, and part of teamliquid for MUCH longer than that. They already said if he was participating in leagues, and was on the A team, then he wouldnt of been allowed to play, however he is beatable, and not a guarantee to win. Also, because of his skill level, he has a much much higher chance at being cheesed by everyone he plays, and therefore stands a chance to lose.
GreEny K
Profile Joined February 2008
Germany7312 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-12-02 20:36:56
December 02 2009 20:33 GMT
#185
So do Artosis' videos lag for anyone else when you try to watch? Takes forever to buffer it completely.

EDIT: Does it seem like Ret keeps bashing idra? Every player that IdrA doesn't like Ret compliments, pretty funny.
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selboN
Profile Blog Joined January 2008
United States2523 Posts
December 02 2009 20:41 GMT
#186
I closed it after a hour of loading last night. That site is terri-bad.
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Carnac
Profile Blog Joined December 2003
Germany / USA16648 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-12-02 20:50:18
December 02 2009 20:47 GMT
#187
SCforall videos used to be terrible for me, but now they usually work fine. Sometimes I have to reload the page at the start, but then it always works. Also I have to start the videos with the play button in the center and not with the play button in the bottom bar for it to work.

Anyway, great interview as far as the content goes (go Jos!). The sound quality (volume in general, volume disparity between people, noise due to wind) could really be better, especially at the beginning, certainly something to remedy in the future. Keep'em coming, Artosis!
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ilbh
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
Brazil1606 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-12-02 20:59:50
December 02 2009 20:48 GMT
#188
the video was flawless to me: no lag, good sound, fast download speed, etc.

im just saying cause I only see negative feedback, so they know that this is not happening to everyone or even is only happening to certain countries, states, regions...

funny video, Im curious of what they think about koll... if they said something about him I missed it lol
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Jonteman
Profile Joined November 2004
Sweden644 Posts
December 02 2009 20:55 GMT
#189
Idra so adorable!!
HazMat
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
United States17077 Posts
December 02 2009 21:28 GMT
#190
I hate how every one keeps bashing Idra, he reminds me off my brother, cool guy just gets easilly pissed off when losing. Not a big deal, thats why i have my sig
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0cz3c
Profile Joined February 2008
United States564 Posts
December 02 2009 22:00 GMT
#191
Great interview. Do wish that Artosis asked their opinions on Nony, Draco, and Iefnaij, though!
Pooshlmer
Profile Joined August 2008
United States1001 Posts
December 02 2009 22:13 GMT
#192
The videos only work in IE for me.
etch
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
Canada176 Posts
December 02 2009 22:50 GMT
#193
On December 03 2009 05:55 Jonteman wrote:
Idra so adorable!!

you might be the first person to have ever said that
meeple
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
Canada10211 Posts
December 02 2009 23:05 GMT
#194
On December 03 2009 05:55 Jonteman wrote:
Idra so adorable!!


lol are you sure you don't mean ret?
frozenclaw
Profile Blog Joined December 2006
Canada410 Posts
December 02 2009 23:09 GMT
#195
Thanks a lot for posting, I've enjoyed many of SCForAll's videos thanks to you Artosis :D
PhilGood2DaY
Profile Joined September 2005
Germany7424 Posts
December 02 2009 23:13 GMT
#196
On December 03 2009 08:05 meeple wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 03 2009 05:55 Jonteman wrote:
Idra so adorable!!


lol are you sure you don't mean ret?



lol are you both sure you dont mean both of them ?

^^
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kulik-
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
Czech Republic305 Posts
December 02 2009 23:20 GMT
#197
On December 03 2009 06:28 HazMat wrote:
I hate how every one keeps bashing Idra, he reminds me off my brother, cool guy just gets easilly pissed off when losing. Not a big deal, thats why i have my sig

hes not asshole only during losing but also when hes winning
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tonight
Profile Blog Joined November 2006
United States11130 Posts
December 02 2009 23:24 GMT
#198
On December 02 2009 17:00 {88}iNcontroL wrote:
Ret's point on the chinese is spot-fucking-on.

I think it is absurd that they hop into our scene whenever money is available then shun us when it isn't.

I skipped several pages of this thread just to re-quote this. This is right beyond belief. No one knows much about any of the chinese gamers because of how little they are active in the community. If it isn't a money sort of opportunity for them they don't even bother.
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tree.hugger
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
Philadelphia, PA10406 Posts
December 02 2009 23:51 GMT
#199
On December 03 2009 08:24 tonight wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 02 2009 17:00 {88}iNcontroL wrote:
Ret's point on the chinese is spot-fucking-on.

I think it is absurd that they hop into our scene whenever money is available then shun us when it isn't.

I skipped several pages of this thread just to re-quote this. This is right beyond belief. No one knows much about any of the chinese gamers because of how little they are active in the community. If it isn't a money sort of opportunity for them they don't even bother.


Perhaps, but I think IdrA was right as well. This only makes the tournament better, and it's interesting to test the top foreign talent against the Chinese.


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aqui
Profile Blog Joined January 2008
Germany1023 Posts
December 02 2009 23:55 GMT
#200
On December 03 2009 07:13 Pooshlmer wrote:
The videos only work in IE for me.

Same here. Only thing i use IE for is watching sc4all vids.
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