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Etopen
Profile Joined September 2009
United States138 Posts
November 25 2009 12:36 GMT
#101
Another question I'd like to ask is; Is Flash going to lose before or after getting the highest ELO peak? If he can win the game that he's probably going to play against a hite player then win his msl group and get the highest ELO.
KleinerRiese
Profile Joined August 2009
Germany18 Posts
November 25 2009 12:51 GMT
#102
go.go will do it. He will bmcheese Flash.
Hinanawi
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
United States2250 Posts
November 25 2009 14:03 GMT
#103
On November 25 2009 21:36 Etopen wrote:
Another question I'd like to ask is; Is Flash going to lose before or after getting the highest ELO peak? If he can win the game that he's probably going to play against a hite player then win his msl group and get the highest ELO.


Depends...if he faces type-b first, he has a good chance of shooting past Bisu and JD and grabbing #1 ELO peak. If he faces Stork first, well...he has a not so good chance. Might still push past JD depending on who his hite opponent is, though.
Favorite progamers (in order): Flash, Stork, Violet, Sea. ||| Get better soon, Violet!
VManOfMana
Profile Blog Joined December 2008
United States764 Posts
November 25 2009 14:46 GMT
#104
Well, according to the calendar:
[PL] vs hite
[MSL] vs hyvaa
[PL] vs STX
[OSL] vs Stork
Woo Jung Ho, FIGHTING! | "With the death of BW comes the death of an idea. And that idea, held by many BW fans, was that a computer game could actually outlive the Next New Game cycle. And to some extent it did." -Falling
DreaM)XeRO
Profile Blog Joined December 2008
Korea (South)4667 Posts
November 25 2009 20:07 GMT
#105
Sea and Fantasy have a legitimate shot of beating him
but you never know
cw)minsean(ru
Holgerius
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
Sweden16951 Posts
November 25 2009 20:10 GMT
#106
On November 26 2009 05:07 DreaM)XeRO wrote:
Sea and Fantasy have a legitimate shot of beating him
but you never know

Sea, yes. Fantasy, no.
I believe in the almighty Grötslev! -- I am never serious and you should never believe a thing I say. Including the previous sentence.
ZZangDreamjOy
Profile Blog Joined June 2006
Canada959 Posts
November 25 2009 20:29 GMT
#107
On November 26 2009 05:10 Holgerius wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 26 2009 05:07 DreaM)XeRO wrote:
Sea and Fantasy have a legitimate shot of beating him
but you never know

Sea, yes. Fantasy, no.

I agree here. Fantasy is a great Terran, but his strength lies in his TvP, and his ability to prepare builds/strategies for single matches. The problem there is that FlaSh is Terran, and is more flexible then other Terrans today, able to deal with what fantasy throws at him, and dominate him.
HitEmUp
Duckvillelol
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
Australia1259 Posts
November 25 2009 21:15 GMT
#108
I don't see (T)RuBy here, this thread fails.
Former SC2 commentator. youtube.com/duckvillelol
seRapH
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States9821 Posts
November 25 2009 22:12 GMT
#109
(Z)Hyuk.

or (T)UpMaGiC. Equal chances.
boomer hands
TwoToneTerran
Profile Joined March 2009
United States8841 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-11-25 22:26:21
November 25 2009 22:25 GMT
#110
On November 26 2009 06:15 Duckvillelol wrote:
I don't see (T)RuBy here, this thread fails.


Ruby is kind of on a six game losing streak. To terran. Where Flash beat him. And it's his worst MU, statistically. =\
Remember Violet.
Thratur
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
Canada917 Posts
November 25 2009 22:41 GMT
#111
According to TLPD, Flash also have a 14-0 TvZ streak. Who will end that too?
TwoToneTerran
Profile Joined March 2009
United States8841 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-11-26 00:05:29
November 26 2009 00:04 GMT
#112
Flash/Kespa doesn't use TLPD. As far as they're concerned, his current streak is 7.

Also, Arnc/Jaedong are very capable. I'd never count Calm out, and while Effort does seem jinx'd against Flash lately, he's proven he can beat him, in an ace match no less.
Remember Violet.
Ikonn
Profile Joined October 2009
Netherlands1958 Posts
November 26 2009 00:28 GMT
#113
On November 26 2009 09:04 TwoToneTerran wrote:
Flash/Kespa doesn't use TLPD. As far as they're concerned, his current streak is 7.


I doubt he'd actually count that all-star game againts Savior, which would make it a 14-game streak. 11 if you take out GOM Classic season 3.
TwoToneTerran
Profile Joined March 2009
United States8841 Posts
November 26 2009 00:32 GMT
#114
I thought KESPA didn't count WCG?
Remember Violet.
dukethegold
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
Canada5645 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-11-26 00:47:00
November 26 2009 00:46 GMT
#115
If Fantasy faces against Flash in the OSL with a Bo3 or Bo5, Fantasy should be able to take at least one game, considering that Fantasy tend to using creative strategies. As for whether any Terran will ever be able to win against Flash in a BoX series, as of right now, I'd say no. No Terran can take on Flash in a BoX series.

I can definitely see Upmagic doing some sort of crazy cheese strategy and take a game off Flash in the proleague.
Holgerius
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
Sweden16951 Posts
November 26 2009 00:48 GMT
#116
On November 26 2009 09:32 TwoToneTerran wrote:
I thought KESPA didn't count WCG?

I believe they count WCG Korea but not the Grand Finals. Might be wrong though.
I believe in the almighty Grötslev! -- I am never serious and you should never believe a thing I say. Including the previous sentence.
Tyxiquale
Profile Joined September 2008
Australia424 Posts
November 26 2009 01:22 GMT
#117
i've been thinking about this for a while... and i don't know whether you guys would agree with me, but flash really started owning up TvT when forGG came to the KT house.

coincidence? I say no.

I would credit at least some of flash's TvT success to forGG
Dumb people don't know that they're dumb.
darktreb
Profile Joined May 2007
United States3019 Posts
November 26 2009 02:02 GMT
#118
On November 26 2009 10:22 Tyxiquale wrote:
i've been thinking about this for a while... and i don't know whether you guys would agree with me, but flash really started owning up TvT when forGG came to the KT house.

coincidence? I say no.

I would credit at least some of flash's TvT success to forGG


I think practicing with ForGG and Fantasy and Leta really helped him adjust to a variety of TvT styles and close any remaining holes in his now arguably perfect TvT game.
DoX.)
Profile Joined December 2008
Singapore6164 Posts
November 26 2009 02:12 GMT
#119
Boxer imo
FakeSteve[TPR]
Profile Blog Joined July 2003
Valhalla18444 Posts
November 26 2009 02:34 GMT
#120
Sea or Really, whichever of 'em plays Flash before the other
Moderatormy tatsu loops r fuckin nice
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