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pripple
Finland1714 Posts
oh god yes it's forming again, Rainman you beast!
too bad i'll have to leave to work now, too bad the only thing i saw was Oz using Killer & Perfectman again ;<
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ur always on the ball rainman.. what would we do without you?
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Oh man, KT vs SKT looks sick.
Thanks Rainman
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wow no mirrors for kt/skt1, gonna be so good
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On November 05 2009 13:11 Tyxiquale wrote:
ur always on the ball rainman.. what would we do without you?
No idea haha.
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Thanks so much Rainman. :D
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Oh deargod skt vs kt looks like its gonna be sooooo epic
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Thanks for doing this!
SKT1 vs KT looks so good!
Is there more or is SKT1 and KT only playing once this week O.o?
They also didn't play last week.
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Katowice25012 Posts
Thanks rainman, loooooooooooooooooooooolin at KHAN's lineup.
I think January has completely given up hope.
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konadora
Singapore66145 Posts
savior vs pusan
fuck yeah
SKT1 vs KT gonna be sick
On November 05 2009 13:17 heyoka wrote:
Thanks rainman, loooooooooooooooooooooolin at KHAN's lineup.
I think January has completely given up hope.
Actually, this week's lineup looks more solid
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Fuuuuuuuu KTR getting bad lineup matches v SKT. We'll still win though :D. And yay Flash TvP!
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AHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH SKT vs KTR looks orgasmic ...
lol @ Killer facing Stork ... I mean Stork's is not best known for his PvZ but still, Killer is gonna get curbstomped so bad that he will quit SC for life ...
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rainman!! what would we do without you?
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Thanks for posting these. Did KESPA take the english tab off their site? I wasn't able to get on the english KESPA to see for myself T_T
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SKT vs KT is going to melt my brain with it's awesomeness (my dick is hard).
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On November 05 2009 13:23 DoctorHelvetica wrote:
Thanks for posting these. Did KESPA take the english tab off their site? I wasn't able to get on the english KESPA to see for myself T_T
I always go off fomos, Kespa is never on time.
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I wish Hoejja and Lux switched their matchups. Luxury v Fantasy is a fun rivalry.
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T1 vs. KT is going to be amazing!
 BeSt is going to break  Flash's streak.
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konadora
Singapore66145 Posts
Lots of TvZs this week, I like it 
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(Z)sAviOr<Tornado>(P)Pusan
battle of the oldies
(T)sKyHigh<Match Point>(T)Sea
anytime sea is playing a solid player, its worth a watch.
(P)Bisu<Outsider SE>(Z)Luxury
wcg rematch. let's see how much lux has improved.
(P)BeSt<Fighting Spirit>(T)Flash
pvt monster vs tvp (though not so much anymore) little monster
(Z)Hyuk<Heartbreak Ridge>(P)Violet
sick zvp and pvz
(T)Leta<Heartbreak Ridge>(P)Kal
legit legit
(T)sKyHigh<Tornado>(T)firebathero
tvt master vs tvt failure (though former master)
(T)UpMaGiC<Outsider SE>(P)free
this is going to be some cheesetastic protoss vs terran.
(P)GosI[Flying]<Fighting Spirit>(Z)ZerO
hyped up wunderkid vs sick sick zvp
waaaaaayy to many good games next week
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i have a bad feeling about SKT vs KT...
I think by far, SKT have got the better matchups...
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Russian Federation1381 Posts
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Are SKTT1 dodging Flash, or do they think Best can snipe him?
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Katowice25012 Posts
I count 23 non-mirrors out of 40 games so slightly better rate than last week but still seems like a lot of mirror
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Hahaha Horang2 vs Frozean!
Hopefully Horang2 will actually try this time >_>
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and hwaseung is now expected 2 more losses in proleague
jaedong 2 more victories
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Oh yes, Horang2 v. Frozean, a game full of possibilities for so much lulz. I predict Horang2 going 1 base carrier into mass zealots. He's just that crazy.
Hopefully Wemade can keep it up against Woongin and ACE.
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1. Ktf vs Skt1 looks awesome.
2. Can we bloody see Jaedong in not a ZvZ?
3. Still too many mirrors =\
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Will Hiya make FBH cry? XD
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On November 05 2009 13:33 Highways wrote:
1. Ktf vs Skt1 looks awesome.
2. Can we bloody see Jaedong in not a ZvZ?
3. Still too many mirrors =\
1. Amen
2. Nope
3. Eh
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On November 05 2009 13:26 Nitan wrote:T1 vs. KT is going to be amazing! BeSt is going to break Flash's streak.
What makes you think that? The only recent terran he beat was PianO who played horribly.
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im so suprise that KHAN keeps senting out firebathero and juni.
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On November 05 2009 13:30 DIMJkE wrote:
Are SKTT1 dodging Flash, or do they think Best can snipe him?
Both I think. Though dodging Flash seems like a better explanation. T1 wouldn't risk Bisu on a 50-50 vs Flash, because Bisu against anyone else is a near insta-win. fantasy can't TvT Flash, plain and simple. Best with his uber macro MAY have a chance though, if he pulls off some S-class PvT.
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you know if you look at fantasy's stats his TvZ is actually only 52%. hoejja has a chance! hope its an interesting game
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but if you take a better look, youll see fantasy has played jaedong THIRTEEN. thats right, THIRTEEN times out of his 48 vs zerg games. jesus.
gogo KT vs SKT!
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so this gosiflying kid's for real huh? 4 straight starts as the sole protoss, they must really see something.
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United States13143 Posts
On November 05 2009 13:36 geegee1 wrote:
im so suprise that KHAN keeps senting out firebathero and juni.
Well, they need to send out a terran; no idea why no Stork against CJ, though 
Looks like a fun week, though
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yep, KT got the bad end of the match-ups against T1. Hoejja isnt consistent, lux zvp... no comments, Best can actually beat Flash. Only game Im confident about is violet winning over hyuk. Its still gonna be close though.
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KTF's actually good enough so that the KTF-STK1 match will be worthy of the rivalry they have.
I wonder if SKT1 will suffer growing pains later on if they burn out their players.
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sweet get to see Flash play something other than a zerg
I enjoy tvz games more than tvp but can't wait to see how he does against Best
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lol, jangbi's not getting played anymore...
and fbh keeps getting sent out every match...
sigh... khan fighting!
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Finally Flash will shut up the people criticizing his TvP not being as good as his TvZ, although id rather see him vs Bisu, Best is a good opponent.
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On November 05 2009 13:34 illu wrote:
Will Hiya make FBH cry? XD
Uggh this is like when people randomly post the January face palm picture. FBH lost in the PL Grand Final and cried, why would he cry over a regular PL match? Not to mention FBH has beat Hiya every time since the finals.
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flash has never beaten best........
ever...
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On November 05 2009 13:49 Tyxiquale wrote:
flash has never beaten best........
ever...
He beat him when he was Toss.
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On November 05 2009 13:51 BlackMagister wrote:Show nested quote +On November 05 2009 13:49 Tyxiquale wrote:
flash has never beaten best........
ever... He beat him when he was Toss.
Amen
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do i dare trade midas or fbh?...
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Forget T1 vs KT, Horang2 is playing Frozean! Rematch of the Century hahaha.
A lot of fantastic matches ahead this week, should outdo Week 4 by miles.
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wow SKT/KT is a must-watch
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holy shit so many fewer mirrors than last week, can't wait :D
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On November 05 2009 13:36 DoctorHelvetica wrote:What makes you think that? The only recent terran he beat was PianO who played horribly.
I am a diehard BeSt fan.
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Omg KT plays 1 proleague match in 2 weeks.
as a flashfan thats kinda sad!
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United States4796 Posts
Thanks Rainman! Hope Jaedong wins all his ZvZs. SKT vs. KT will be epic!
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On November 05 2009 13:39 nayumi wrote:Show nested quote +On November 05 2009 13:30 DIMJkE wrote:
Are SKTT1 dodging Flash, or do they think Best can snipe him? Both I think. Though dodging Flash seems like a better explanation. T1 wouldn't risk Bisu on a 50-50 vs Flash, because Bisu against anyone else is a near insta-win. fantasy can't TvT Flash, plain and simple. Best with his uber macro MAY have a chance though, if he pulls off some S-class PvT.
Agreed. Best is the most "economical" player to use. He wont get raped like Hyuk would.
Pretty much what was said in that post.
IMO it was a great draw for SKT.
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Baa?21242 Posts
Exciting week, lots of ZvT and ZvP. Looking forward to these games, especially after the lackluster week we just had.
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(Z)Action - 1
(P)Anytime - 1
(P)BackHo - 1
(P)BeSt - 1
(P)Bisu - 1
(Z)Calm - 1
(T)Casy - 1
(T)DarkElf - 1
(Z)EffOrt - 2
(T)fantasy - 1
(T)firebathero - 2
(T)Flash - 1
(P)free - 2
(T)FrOzean - 1
(Z)ggaemo - 1
(Z)GoRush - 2
(P)GosI[Flying] - 2
(Z)great - 2
(P)GuemChi - 1
(P)han - 1
(T)HiyA - 1
(Z)HoeJJa - 1
(P)Horang2 - 1
(T)Hwasin - 1
(Z)Hydra - 1
(Z)Hyuk - 1
(Z)HyuN - 1
(Z)hyvaa - 2
(Z)Jaedong - 2
(Z)Juni - 1
(T)Justin - 1
(P)Kal - 1
(Z)Killer - 1
(Z)Kwanro - 1
(T)Leta - 1
(T)Light - 2
(T)Lomo - 1
(Z)Luxury - 1
(P)M18M - 2
(T)Midas - 1
(T)Mind - 1
(P)Movie - 2
(T)MVP - 1
(P)PerfectMan - 1
(T)PianO - 1
(P)Pure - 2
(P)Pusan - 1
(P)Reach - 1
(T)Really - 2
(Z)RorO - 2
(T)RuBy - 2
(Z)Saint - 1
(Z)sAviOr - 1
(T)Sea - 2
(Z)Shine - 2
(T)sKyHigh - 2
(P)Stork - 1
(Z)type-b - 1
(T)UpMaGiC - 1
(P)Violet - 1
(Z)ZerO - 2
(T)Really - 2
(T)firebathero - 2
(Z)GoRush - 2
(P)M18M - 2
(T)Light - 2
(P)Movie - 2
(Z)ZerO - 2
(Z)Jaedong - 2
(P)Pure - 2
(Z)RorO - 2
(Z)hyvaa - 2
(P)free - 2
(T)sKyHigh - 2
(P)GosI[Flying] - 2
(T)RuBy - 2
(T)Sea - 2
(Z)EffOrt - 2
(Z)Shine - 2
(Z)great - 2
(Z)Calm - 1
(P)Pusan - 1
(T)fantasy - 1
(T)Hwasin - 1
(Z)Hyuk - 1
(P)Horang2 - 1
(T)Leta - 1
(T)MVP - 1
(P)Reach - 1
(Z)type-b - 1
(T)FrOzean - 1
(Z)Saint - 1
(Z)HoeJJa - 1
(Z)Juni - 1
(T)DarkElf - 1
(T)Mind - 1
(T)Flash - 1
(T)Casy - 1
(P)GuemChi - 1
(Z)Luxury - 1
(P)BeSt - 1
(T)HiyA - 1
(Z)Kwanro - 1
(T)UpMaGiC - 1
(T)Lomo - 1
(P)han - 1
(P)PerfectMan - 1
(P)Anytime - 1
(Z)HyuN - 1
(Z)ggaemo - 1
(Z)Action - 1
(Z)Hydra - 1
(P)BackHo - 1
(T)Midas - 1
(P)Kal - 1
(T)Justin - 1
(T)PianO - 1
(Z)Killer - 1
(P)Stork - 1
(P)Bisu - 1
(Z)sAviOr - 1
(P)Violet - 1
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predicting:
cj > mbc
oz > khan
fox > woonjing
estro > ace
stx > hite
skt > kt
cj > khan
estro > woonjing
fox > ace
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hahaha yessss savior zvp!!
KT vs SKT will be awesome. Flash is gonna roll Best!
Also Jangbi is in neither khan lineup... wow whats going on. They using that M18M guy LOL
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sAviOr vs Pusan!!! Fav zerg vs 2nd fav protoss!
KT vs SKT1 looks incredible aswell.
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MrHoon
10183 Posts
I have a feeling SKT is gonna 3:0 KT
DAMN YOU GUT FEELING
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SKT1 was clever with their lineup. They saw that KT was playing Lux on Outsider and also know that he's horrible versus Protoss. Similarly, they were hoping to catch a Protoss on Match Point with Fantasy. KT is playing the maps as they normally do which is what SKT1 were expecting except they were hoping to catch Bisu or Best with Hoejja.. The alternative would be to play Bisu on Match Point and Fantasy on Outsider giving Bisu vs Hoejja and Fantasy vs Luxury which doesn't look as favourable.
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United States12607 Posts
Thanks Rainman!
KT vs T1….wow what lineups
BeSt: do Flash like you always do
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Wow, i love this week lineups, especially KT vs T1!!! Gonna be really epic!!! Can't wait to see another series of HYUK HYUK HYUK upon Violet getting HYUKEDDDD
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When will khan send miracle. -_-
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On November 05 2009 14:32 MuffinDude wrote:
When will khan send miracle. -_-
you'd have to be praying for a miracle for that to happen.
but seriously, where's jangbi? get jangbi, great, stork, miracle/fbh out here in your first 4 sets and maybe samsung khan actually win again.
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On November 05 2009 13:30 DIMJkE wrote:
Are SKTT1 dodging Flash, or do they think Best can snipe him?
Someone has to play Flash, and nobody is a guaranteed win. Though most of their main people have a chance (other than Hyuk).
If Best plays in-form the game should be awesome, and the winner would be a tossup.
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17 of the 40 listed matches are mirrors, a nice improvement from last week's low-twenties mirror count
14 of 30 garunteed games are mirrors, which is also a good improvement from last week
skt vs ktf obviously is most anticipated match,
i predict:
fantasy>hoejja
bisu>lux
best<flash
hyuk>violet but just barely so in an epic zvp
if it gets to ace i expect fantasy and flash to come out because it's moon glaive, and for flash to win because he's looking more solid than fantasy right now.
bisu+hyuk helping each other >>> lux+violet in theory
shitfuckit i just realized there is no way i'm staying up that late on sunday to watch skt vs ktf fucking hell i'm pissed off
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On November 05 2009 14:27 JWD wrote:
BeSt: do Flash like you always do
Get lucky?  .
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Oh wow, SKT vs KT is going to be awesome. It could go either way, but I think SKT definitely got more lucky (or made the better choices) with the matchups.
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I'm pumped for SKT1 vs KT, going to be so sick. It's no exaggeration to say that the entire match is hovering on how well Flash's TvP turns out to be, we haven't seen much of it lately.
Also Best and Flash have played eachother twice (once back in February and once in May 2008), Best won both games. But Best's recent PvT record isn't what it used to be...
SKT1 got a really good draw honestly. Best has a decent chance of sniping Flash (although I still think Flash is the slight favorite!), Fantasy and Bisu will win, leaving KT's hopes in the hands of Violet to beat Hyuk and send Flash to ace, where he'll have to face...Bisu.
Fanboy delusion dream scenario: SKT1 2 - 2 KT with Flash and Violet winning, goes to Ace match Flash vs Bisu, Flash wins.
Gritty realist scenario: SKT1 probably going to win the set.
Either way, going to be an edge-of-your-seat series you'd have to be crazy to miss.
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hoooooolly shiiit ktf vs skt
their best line ups. its gonna be the match of week 5
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Can't wait for SKT1 vs KT. Gonna be awesome!
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On November 05 2009 15:33 blue_arrow wrote:
17 of the 40 listed matches are mirrors, a nice improvement from last week's low-twenties mirror count
14 of 30 garunteed games are mirrors, which is also a good improvement from last week
finally the maps are balanced enough that ~50% of the games are mirrors like its supposed to be with random fielding of players.
+ Show Spoiler +
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damn, i'm sure Jaedong must be getting sick of all the ZvZs he gets thrown in.
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I really don't like it when Jaedong plays on Heartbreak, it just doesn't seem like his map at all.
Anyways, I'm really looking forward to Savior vs Pusan, Flash vs Best, and Upmagic vs free. And I'm mega pumped for Reach vs Pure, hopefully the set with get that far~
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Ace never plays RuBy in anything but TvT...
Oh well
Looking forward to KT vs T1!!!!! Gonna Be EPIC!
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United States4126 Posts
Aw, SKT's back to their normal line-up
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On November 05 2009 14:32 MuffinDude wrote:
When will khan send miracle. -_-
I'm wondering the same thing. FBH is so crap at anything not TvT these days that literally any terran would have a better hope of succeeding. And Miracle isn't actually half bad so I can't see why they keep ending out FBH. I guess because of the nature of the maps, he might not ever see a zerg or protoss though that's asking to be sniped.
The series I'm looking forward to is probably Hwaseung Oz vs Samsung Khan. Funnily enough, Samsung Khan is actually looking pretty good against Oz.
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Darn, no zerg's for FBH to pull out of his slump against. I'm so glad he finally realized that meching wasn't working for him vs. Zerg. Here's to more FBH MnM sexiness in the future.
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Germany2762 Posts
seems like daezang doesn't get to play at all... ignorants.
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Hoejja is going to demolish Fantasy because Hoejja rules, Bisu is going to lose because it's outsider and Flash, well, Flash.
To be less jovial, this is KT's true test. They've been trashing every subpar team and dropped a poorly matched series against CJ. This looks pretty well play from SKT, but like last time, KT looks like they could still win it. Hopefully it won't be another 1-3. I'd really like to see a good ace match.
Hopefully IEF didn't wear out the by.Terran duo~!
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On November 05 2009 17:44 0neder wrote:
Darn, no zerg's for FBH to pull out of his slump against. I'm so glad he finally realized that meching wasn't working for him vs. Zerg. Here's to more FBH MnM sexiness in the future.
He hasn't even been beating Zergs lately with his MnM.
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SKT vs KT can go either way really. I'm more o less sure only about the  First game here.
Luxury has already won against Bisu in the past on Coloseum, and Bisu seems to have problems adjusting his pvz to new trends.
And though Bisu is favorite in the second game, I'm more confident Flash and Violet can get their games easily.
This makes quite a high chance of going to ace game.
And the ace is always exciting.
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More ZvZ for Jaedong. I really want to see him play something else for a change. Too bad.
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Protoss in every game this week on Fighting Spirit, two terrans on Heartbreak, and a TvP on Outsider!
This week
27![[image loading]](http://www.teamliquid.net/tlpd/images/Ticon_small.png) · 23![[image loading]](http://www.teamliquid.net/tlpd/images/Picon_small.png) · 30![[image loading]](http://www.teamliquid.net/tlpd/images/Zicon_small.png)
5 TvP · 10 PvZ · 8 ZvT · 7 TvT · 6 ZvZ · 4 PvP
T in 50% of games, P in 48%, Z in 60%
42% mirrors
Total
129 · 108 · 147
23 TvP · 37 PvZ · 34 ZvT · 36 TvT · 38 ZvZ · 24 PvP
T in 48%, P in 44%, Z in 57%
51% mirrors
Fighting Spirit
31 · 24 · 15
9 TvP · 7 PvZ · 4 ZvT · 9 TvT · 2 ZvZ · 4 PvP
T in 63%, P in 63%, Z in 37%
26% TvT in 35 games
+ Show Spoiler [Players] +
Tornado
26 · 4 · 34
2 TvP · 2 PvZ · 14 ZvT · 5 TvT · 9 ZvZ
T in 66%, P in 12%, Z in 78%
28% ZvZ in 32 games
+ Show Spoiler [Players] +
Match Point
17 · 39 · 6
8 TvP · 3 PvZ · 3 ZvT · 3 TvT · 14 PvP
T in 45%, P in 81%, Z in 19%
45% PvP in 31 games
+ Show Spoiler [Players] +
Moon Glaive
43 · 5 · 16
1 TvP · 4 PvZ · 6 ZvT · 18 TvT · 3 ZvZ
T in 78%, P in 16%, Z in 41%
56% TvT in 32 games
+ Show Spoiler [Players] +
Outsider SE
8 · 9 · 39
1 TvP, 8 PvZ · 5 ZvT · 1 TvT · 13 ZvZ
T in 25%, P in 32%, Z in 93%
46% ZvZ in 28 games
+ Show Spoiler [Players] +
Heartbreak Ridge
4 · 27 · 37
2 TvP · 13 PvZ · 2 ZvT · 11 ZvZ · 6 PvP
T in 12%, P in 62%, Z in 76%
32% ZvZ in 34 games
+ Show Spoiler [Players] +
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I am surprised so many think Flash can beat a dragon. :o
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Well then. My anti team is going to get wrecked this week, I know it.
I must ask why RoRo is being played so much...
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On November 05 2009 19:19 SuperArc wrote:
I am surprised so many think Flash can beat a dragon. :o
I am surprised that some people still use this term, welcome to the past?
Can't wait for KT vs SKT, should be a good match.Looks like trading Piano for Odin wasn't a good idea But at least CJ plays twice~
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Traded Kwanro for FBH
FBH, you better win something for me
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On November 05 2009 17:40 LetMeShine wrote:I'm wondering the same thing. FBH is so crap at anything not TvT these days that literally any terran would have a better hope of succeeding. And Miracle isn't actually half bad so I can't see why they keep ending out FBH. I guess because of the nature of the maps, he might not ever see a zerg or protoss though that's asking to be sniped. The series I'm looking forward to is probably Hwaseung Oz vs Samsung Khan. Funnily enough, Samsung Khan is actually looking pretty good against Oz.
Khan has always beaten Oz a lot, just like how Oz always >> Sparkyz
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Ugh, Oz vs Khan/MBC better go to ace, so that we can hopefully see some JD vs Stork/Light/Sea after all these damn ZvZs he has been getting. But who am I kidding, JD won't be sent out in the ace games
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On November 05 2009 13:42 iLoveKT wrote:
yep, KT got the bad end of the match-ups against T1. Hoejja isnt consistent, lux zvp... no comments, Best can actually beat Flash. Only game Im confident about is violet winning over hyuk. Its still gonna be close though.
You call yourself a kt fan
Fantasy's tvz is terribad and hoejja will be able to easily win, flash is flash and is apsolutly on fire at the moment, lux i dont expect to win but on outsider anything can happen, finally hyuk the most overrated player ever is playing a very solid pvz in violet and he strugggleddd badly against pure so i expect violet to win easily
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Best is going to get curbstomped. He's nowhere near his old form and neither of his victories are convincing to me.
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CJ vs KHAN
Bound to be totally awesomely entertaining.... not.
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pripple
Finland1714 Posts
damn delicious KT vs SKT1, every match looks exciting! (avoided mirrors somehow)
whats up with Killer/ggaemo always getting the T/P opponents and JD has to play ZvZ, why can't it be JD - Stork & JD - Light ;<
i understand Khan not playing JangBi at all but why the hell Stork ain't in the lineup against CJ? :o
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Man, I was sooooo dumb to trade Jaedong for Calm last week. Didn't look at the upcoming schedule...STX didn't even PLAY this week. And now next week they only play once
Looks like 2 bread and butter matchups for JD.
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United States12607 Posts
JangBi is benchwarming for another week….wow
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On November 06 2009 00:02 JWD wrote:JangBi is benchwarming for another week….wow
He needs to pull himself together. For gods sake, there was a point where even Stork himself admitted Jangbi was a bit ahead of him, and now he looks like a b-teamer.
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Horang2 vs Cuteangel rematch... How could one possibly miss this <3
There are so many games to watch this week it's easier to just list them...
(Z)sAviOr<Tornado>(P)Pusan(T)Really<Tornado>(T)RuBy
(P)GosI[Flying]<Heartbreak Ridge>(Z)GoRush
(Z)type-b<Moon Glaive>(T)Hwasin
(P)Horang2<Fighting Spirit>(T)FrOzean
(P)Bisu<Outsider SE>(Z)Luxury
(T)RuBy<Moon Glaive>(T)Midas
(P)GosI[Flying]<Fighting Spirit>(Z)ZerO
+ all the fotm players' games...
Weird how GosI[Flying] is being sent out so much on zerg maps... I guess eStro is looking to turn him into a zerg killer?
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Ace could legitimately win 2 matches this week. If they start sending out Ruby for ACE games they might be able to build a win streak here. Looking at the lineups, they might even be favored in these matches.
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Can Jaedong please stop having ZvZs, seriously. Seems like there a few less mirror matches this week which is AWESOME. Also glad to see Movie and Bisu aren't playing all PvP (although Movie has one).
Where is Day[9]'s lovechild HoGiL? Should be a pretty good week altogether.
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On November 05 2009 22:27 writer22816 wrote:
Best is going to get curbstomped. He's nowhere near his old form and neither of his victories are convincing to me.
Whenever BeSt played Flash he completely dominated him.
Except when Flash played Protoss.
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I was hoping so badly for Flash vs ANYONE that can stand a chance... And that doesn't include BeSt... I hope the game goes to ACE. Would kill for a Bisu vs Flash.
I wish eSTRO would give Classic more play time... The game vs Woongjin is gonna be bad-ass.
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Oh god, another 2 zvz's for Jaedong, and i would have liked to see Flash vs Bisu, and Luxury vs Best.
Can't complain though - the non mirror matches are going to be awesome.
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OZ doesnt have any other zergs besides JD that can play ZvZ anyway, strategic genius ggameo or 2nd best Killer?
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On November 06 2009 00:48 r33k wrote:
Weird how GosI[Flying] is being sent out so much on zerg maps... I guess eStro is looking to turn him into a zerg killer?
sangho started 1-3 or 1-4, i think they were all against good players though.
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On November 05 2009 21:15 Cpadolf wrote:Ugh, Oz vs Khan/MBC better go to ace, so that we can hopefully see some JD vs Stork/Light/Sea after all these damn ZvZs he has been getting. But who am I kidding, JD won't be sent out in the ace games
if it goes to ace killer will be sent out duh?
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SKT - KT seems interesting, actually I just had a vision:
Fantasy or Bisu fails and Flash beats Best and we get to see an ace match BoxeR - Flash, Boxer does a neat nukebuild but fails and is losing the game when Flash who also went nukes gets confused of the player colors and accidentally his whole army. T1 wins and Flash starts slumping big time.
You´ll see.
Estro - Airforce will probably be the toughest match, anyone can win there, even KesPA.
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motbob
United States12546 Posts
Oh gosh
all 4 eSTRO players in their weakest race matchups against ACE
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SKT going to disband after their embarrassing loss to KT.
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On November 05 2009 20:17 emucxg wrote:
Traded Kwanro for FBH
FBH, you better win something for me
I traded Skyhigh for him! I gotta believe! Fck Hiya up!
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I wonder if Flash will play his "new style" versus Best. And I wonder if it'll involve Dropships... It's either that or two base Arbiters versus fast upgrades.
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On November 06 2009 04:26 HwangjaeTerran wrote:
SKT - KT seems interesting, actually I just had a vision:
Fantasy or Bisu fails and Flash beats Best and we get to see an ace match BoxeR - Flash, Boxer does a neat nukebuild but fails and is losing the game when Flash who also went nukes gets confused of the player colors and accidentally his whole army.
I don't know if that was intentional but lol
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u gotta skate8152 Posts
On November 06 2009 04:31 motbob wrote:
Oh gosh
all 4 eSTRO players in their weakest race matchups against ACE
You are so wrong. :p
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SK Telecom T1 vs KT Rolster(on MBC)
fantasy<Match Point>HoeJJa
Bisu<Outsider SE>Luxury
BeSt<Fighting Spirit>Flash
Hyuk<Heartbreak Ridge>Violet
Closer:<Moon Glaive>
this is GREAT for SKT1.
Fantasy is a fav over Hoejja
Bisu and Lux should be a GREAT game
BeST should give Flash a fight though i think Flash will win
Hyuk and Violet will also be good xD
looking forward to it
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motbob
United States12546 Posts
On November 06 2009 04:37 KizZBG wrote:Show nested quote +On November 06 2009 04:31 motbob wrote:
Oh gosh
all 4 eSTRO players in their weakest race matchups against ACE You are so wrong. :p
Oh whoops. I mean, "all 4 ACE players in their strongest race matchups against eSTRO."
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Korea (South)3086 Posts
SKT1 vs. KT, it's looking better for SKT.
I don't really see HoeJJa winning over Fantasy, and Luxury's PvZ is garbage, and he's playing Bisu. Although I can see this going to ace, and seeing a FlaSh vs. Bisu.
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On November 06 2009 05:12 SilverskY wrote:
SKT1 vs. KT, it's looking better for SKT.
I don't really see HoeJJa winning over Fantasy, and Luxury's PvZ is garbage, and he's playing Bisu. Although I can see this going to ace, and seeing a FlaSh vs. Bisu.
I think they gotta send Fantasy or maybe even Canata (though this is suicide) on Moon Glaive.
Unless Bisu REALLY wants it. I definitely think Bisu is their best chance.
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Yeah I think SKT vs KT is going to ace, after SKT gives away a 2-0 lead. I really like Hoejja but I don't see him beating Fantasy and I doubt Lux, with his recent erratic ZvP form, can beat Bisu. Flash however appears in the best form of his career, unlike Best. Hyuk vs Violet could go either way but I'm going to give it to Violet anyway out of pure KT fanboyism.
And I think anything other than Bisu in ace is going to be suicide for SKT. Fantasy could win but Flash has a 13 game win streak and a 71% win rate in TvT. I doubt anyone would take that chance.
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On November 06 2009 06:03 Ikonn wrote:
Yeah I think SKT vs KT is going to ace, after SKT gives away a 2-0 lead. I really like Hoejja but I don't see him beating Fantasy and I doubt Lux, with his recent erratic ZvP form, can beat Bisu. Flash however appears in the best form of his career, unlike Best. Hyuk vs Violet could go either way but I'm going to give it to Violet anyway out of pure KT fanboyism.
And I think anything other than Bisu in ace is going to be suicide for SKT. Fantasy could win but Flash has a 13 game win streak and a 71% win rate in TvT. I doubt anyone would take that chance.
I wouldn't be surprised if both teams sent out zergs to snipe. It's the theme of the season.
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On November 06 2009 04:31 motbob wrote:
Oh gosh
all 4 eSTRO players in their weakest race matchups against ACE
I have ruby on my fpl and I still don't think he'll be able to beat Really. Really's tvt has gotten extremely good recently. Hyvaa vs Casy should obviously be for Hyvaa, and Flying vs Gorush probably obviously for Flying. Anytime could probably beat action though.
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On November 06 2009 06:19 Nevuk wrote:
... Hyvaa vs Casy should obviously be for Hyvaa...
BLASPHEMY!
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On November 06 2009 06:19 Nevuk wrote:Show nested quote +On November 06 2009 04:31 motbob wrote:
Oh gosh
all 4 eSTRO players in their weakest race matchups against ACE I have ruby on my fpl and I still don't think he'll be able to beat Really. Really's tvt has gotten extremely good recently. Hyvaa vs Casy should obviously be for Hyvaa, and Flying vs Gorush probably obviously for Flying. Anytime could probably beat action though.
Ruby had close game with Sea, and beat Skyhigh,Hwasin and Hiya...only person really has beaten was Sea, whom he beat like the last 2 times they plaed as well. I dont see any reason to think Ruby cant beat Really, If anything Id have Ruby as the favorite. Hyvaa vs Casy...isnt that obvious either both are inconsistent, but Moon Glaive seems ok for bio, so Id give the nod to Casy, but really its a toss up. I have no clue how Flying is obviously favored over Gorush, as Gorush is still pretty good and alot more experienced......and playing on Heartbreak Ridge. Gorush is a strong favorite here. Anytime is probably favored vs Action, but anytimes pvz isnt the most solid thing, however he usually beats mediocre zergs.
I think ACE is clearly favored all things considered. its not overwhelming or anything, but I dont see how one could think estro is favored from the lineup.
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SKT vs KT will be 2:0 for SKT then Flash and Violet will win and then "epic" ace canata vs forgg ... you will see... )
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Flash has nothing else to do right now - I will be both stunned and very annoyed if he doesn't go out for ace on a good T map.
The question is what SKT1 is going to do. If they are confident that Flash will go out (which they should be) then they should send Bisu (who also has nothing else to do, unless he's practicing for WCG which he isn't). The issue teams have with sending P on Moon Glavie is ZvP, I think.
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KT is going to win 3-1 with luxury losing.
fantasy's TvZ is completely overrated. He was good when he could use his mech builds, but his medic marine control is not very good. This season, we've seen a move away from mech play. HoeJJa has a good chance of beating fantasy.
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OK, I'm with the people who say fantasy's TvZ isn't great, but...it's not like HoeJJa's ZvT is that good.
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It's too bad Hyuk won't get to play once T1 wins 3-0.
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I got the bad feeling that if KT/SKT goes to ace, we'll hear some Foo Fighters music.
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Anyone who thinks fantasy will get sent out for ace is crazy, he can't beat Flash in TvT in his current form. We knew it before already, and we know it even more now that Flash swept Fantasy 2-0 in IEF in games which, from what I hear, weren't even close.
Bisu on the other hand has about a 50-50 or so chance of taking him down regardless of the map.
Fantasy is going to stomp HoeJJa, though. He'll run half a control group of vultures into HoeJJa's undefended drone line and I'll cry.
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United States12607 Posts
I think you guys are too sure that Flash will be KT's ace choice. Keep in mind that the KT coaches have a history of godawful 5set picks.
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On November 06 2009 09:57 JWD wrote:
I think you guys are too sure that Flash will be KT's ace choice. Keep in mind that the KT coaches have a history of godawful 5set picks.
Unless KT coaches are blind, and a 10-0 record means nothing to them, I seriously doubt non-Flash choices.
The chance that Fantasy get sent out to snipe Flash is incredibly small. Flash has been practicing TvT nonstop for the past month and his record is unbeatable. Bisu is the most likely candidate. Of course, I am just stating the obvious.
The critical set will likely to be Hyuk v.s. Violet. Fantasy, Flash and Bisu are overwhelming favorites in their respective matchups. So whether we get to see an ACE match will rest on the shoulders of Hyuk and Violet.
Umm...
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kt vs skt will be a must watch
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On November 06 2009 08:03 OreoBoi wrote:KT is going to win 3-1 with luxury losing. fantasy's TvZ is completely overrated. He was good when he could use his mech builds, but his medic marine control is not very good. This season, we've seen a move away from mech play. HoeJJa has a good chance of beating fantasy.
Fantasy might be overrated when people compare him to the like of jaedong or flash. But Hoejja? Come on ...
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On November 06 2009 09:50 Hinanawi wrote:Anyone who thinks fantasy will get sent out for ace is crazy, he can't beat Flash in TvT in his current form. We knew it before already, and we know it even more now that Flash swept Fantasy 2-0 in IEF in games which, from what I hear, weren't even close. Bisu on the other hand has about a 50-50 or so chance of taking him down regardless of the map. Fantasy is going to stomp HoeJJa, though. He'll run half a control group of vultures into HoeJJa's undefended drone line and I'll cry.
You're kidding right? Flash in his current form (this is like back when he won Bacchus type insanity) is a favorite against Bisu, especially on a Terran favored map. If you think otherwise you are just a bit on the crazy side.
Fantasy never really stood a decent chance against Flash in a TvT even when Fantasy was in top form and Flash wasn't.... and Canata would just get curb stomped. Bisu is their best shot but I don't think he has a 50-50
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On November 06 2009 11:19 nayumi wrote:Show nested quote +On November 06 2009 08:03 OreoBoi wrote:KT is going to win 3-1 with luxury losing. fantasy's TvZ is completely overrated. He was good when he could use his mech builds, but his medic marine control is not very good. This season, we've seen a move away from mech play. HoeJJa has a good chance of beating fantasy. Fantasy might be overrated when people compare him to the like of jaedong or flash. But Hoejja? Come on ...
u do have a point. hoejja really isnt good at all.
and fantasy used to be at the level of JD and flash, its just that hes a lot worse now lol
but regardless, SKT vs KT is going to be a mindbusting event and everyone should watch it!
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Fantasy's TvZ is mediocre, but yeah; he should indeed be able to take down Hoejja.
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I'm excited to see Action play and GosI[Flying]x2!!!
Also hoping HyuK can bounce back from the OSL with a win against Violet
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On November 06 2009 21:04 Holgerius wrote:
Fantasy's TvZ is mediocre, but yeah; he should indeed be able to take down Hoejja.
5 bucks says he goes vultures
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On November 10 2009 02:11 Sabu113 wrote:Show nested quote +On November 06 2009 21:04 Holgerius wrote:
Fantasy's TvZ is mediocre, but yeah; he should indeed be able to take down Hoejja. 5 bucks says he goes vultures
If you're talking about the SKT vs KT matches, it's been played already and it was epic.
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On November 06 2009 21:04 Holgerius wrote:
Fantasy's TvZ is mediocre, but yeah; he should indeed be able to take down Hoejja.
go watch it now
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