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Who is StarCraft's progaming average Joe?

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Slugbreath
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
Sweden201 Posts
October 20 2009 16:41 GMT
#1
People have always been interested in discussing the extremes. List of the top 10 best movies of all times or the worst games ever released circulate the internet and are posted faster than IdrA can GG.

But what about the most average singer ever? Or the apple pie that left the most forgettable impression on your mind? Is it not due to these everyday, regular, normal (contains rude words, so beware you regularly sensitive people out there!) things that make the best and the worst stand out? Without something "normal" to compare things with, how could we define somebody as the best?

That said, I embarked on an epic a not that special journey to find the most average of all progamers in StarCraft!

So how to do this? The first idea that sprung into my mind was to see which race was the most played on the professional level and which team had the most members and then, looking at the players of that race on that team and selecting whomever was most average of them.

Quick quizz for all you out there then! Which team has most members as of now?
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SK Telecom T1


And which race is played the most?
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Protoss! (Unless I counted wrong, of course.)
So clearly Average Joe the StarCraft professional has to be from Aiur.


So what do we end up with? Well, it comes down to a total of eight players. They are:
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(P)BeSt
(P)Bisu
(P)Doctor.K
(P)GgMaN[Name]
(P)haitai
(P)KT.MGW)Protoss
(P)Paralyze
(P)TosSLove


But this is where the problems start. Who of all these players can be described as most average? The only thing I could think of was looking at their ELO ratings, but seing how only a minority of them even had one it was a futile atempt. Instead I had to look at their win rating.
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Bisu has won 370 out of 417 listed games giving him a 88.73% win rate.
BeSt has won 146 out of 244 listed games. 59.84%
KT.MGW)Protoss has won 5 out of 10. 50,00%
Doctor.K has won 46/101. 45.54%
TosSLove has won 15/35. 42,86%
haitai has won 1/5. 20,00%
Paralyze has won 2/10. 20,00%
GgMaN[Name] has won 1/9. 11,11%

Now clearly we can't draw any serious conclusion from this data seing how so many of the players have played so few listed games. But ignoring that we can see that the median player of the team is either KT.MGW)Protoss or Doctor.K.

However! I was not satisfied with this, oh no! In the name of true science I decided to look at all players, not just the SK Telecom:ers or the Protosses. No, instead I decided to look at the ELO rating of all active progamers and find the median, setting those with no ELO rating at the bottom of the scale.

The result? I ended up with a median ELO rating of 1962, which was shared by three players:
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(P)HakSoo
(Z)Crazy-Hydra
(Z)n.Die_soO

Funny how two of them end up with "soo" in their IDs, don't you think? After once again consulting win ratios, selected the one with the median win ratio and thus ended up with just one player. So without further ado, I present to you mister Average Joe, the progamer:
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(P)HakSoo, truly a legend in his own right.
I hereby declare him the master of regular play.
siv00
Profile Joined September 2009
261 Posts
October 20 2009 16:43 GMT
#2
Hyuk
tree.hugger
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
Philadelphia, PA10406 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-10-20 22:32:26
October 20 2009 16:49 GMT
#3
This is really irrelevant.

May I ask why you felt compelled to do this?

EDIT: Not... funny...
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mOnion
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
United States5657 Posts
October 20 2009 16:58 GMT
#4
this is a pathetic thread. just because SKT has the most players doesn't mean the player has to come from them.

you're variables are illogical.
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Scorch
Profile Blog Joined March 2008
Austria3371 Posts
October 20 2009 17:02 GMT
#5
How is he average? He has a 16,67% win rate!
RedArmor
Profile Joined September 2009
United States13 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-10-21 06:11:37
October 20 2009 17:05 GMT
#6
http://i130.photobucket.com/albums/p242/omara86/whatwhat.gif

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disciple
Profile Blog Joined January 2008
9070 Posts
October 20 2009 17:09 GMT
#7
Canata
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Pokebunny
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
United States10654 Posts
October 20 2009 17:23 GMT
#8
I thought it was a cool concept, but your criteria were pretty dumb... a statistic average will always produce something dumb.
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Phelix
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
1931 Posts
October 20 2009 17:24 GMT
#9
On October 21 2009 02:09 disciple wrote:
Canata


Totally agree with this statement.
Venture Capital is better off spent on lottery tickets rather than investing in E-Sports; you'll get a far better return. The difference is simple: Koreans are tryharding at the game, foreigners are tryharding in real-life.
cz
Profile Blog Joined August 2007
United States3249 Posts
October 20 2009 17:26 GMT
#10
I liked the thread
EtherealDeath
Profile Blog Joined July 2007
United States8366 Posts
October 20 2009 17:29 GMT
#11
What the hell Bisu has 370 wins out of 416 games?????
Pokebunny
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
United States10654 Posts
October 20 2009 17:40 GMT
#12
On October 21 2009 02:29 EtherealDeath wrote:
What the hell Bisu has 370 wins out of 416 games?????


ok what? I just read that again and that's definitely unreal. No progamer will ever come close to 88% win.
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MorroW
Profile Joined August 2008
Sweden3522 Posts
October 20 2009 17:47 GMT
#13
i think it would be better if u didnt care about which team the gamer came from, instead just take the most common race and see whos closest to 50% win rate in the mus ^^
Progamerpls no copy pasterino
blue_arrow
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
1971 Posts
October 20 2009 17:54 GMT
#14
my mind was just blasted by your logic
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Smorrie
Profile Blog Joined September 2002
Netherlands2925 Posts
October 20 2009 18:05 GMT
#15
Nothing wrong with this thread imo. You guys are taking his analysis way too serious. This obviously is a thread with humorous taste that should be looked at with a wink.. I enjoyed it
It has a strong technique, but it lacks oo.
LCC
Profile Joined January 2009
Canada348 Posts
October 20 2009 18:15 GMT
#16
(P)HakSoo is a good choice, though I personally would have went with (T)Notice.
Nevuk
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
United States16280 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-10-20 18:23:16
October 20 2009 18:19 GMT
#17
I thought that zergs were the most common currently active race?

Yes, Zergs are the most common race. Just checked TLPD.

edit edit : I say that it's thezerg, hyun, or shark.
Crunchums
Profile Blog Joined December 2008
United States11144 Posts
October 20 2009 18:21 GMT
#18
Your logic makes no sense and if you knew anything at all about Haksoo you would not call his play "standard".
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sixghost
Profile Blog Joined November 2007
United States2096 Posts
October 20 2009 18:48 GMT
#19
The answer is (P)Rock.
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Crahptacular
Profile Joined December 2008
United States295 Posts
October 20 2009 18:57 GMT
#20
Even considering that this isn't meant to be serious, it's just so poorly executed that it fails to be entertaining. The entire thing is nonsensical.
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