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NeverGG *
Profile Blog Joined January 2008
United Kingdom5399 Posts
September 28 2009 11:52 GMT
#61
On September 28 2009 20:48 thedeadhaji wrote:
dont worry, I'm not.

I however still cannot understand why you'd choose a phrase that would alienate a non-insignificant number of potential 'customers' to the product when one could easily find a suitable replacement.


The cafe is not a product as you put it - it's meant to be a way to connect the foreign fans with Jaedong. I don't even know why you think this is such a bad name. I don't follow the foreigner scene so all I know about it is it's the WCG theme music. Why are you being so negative about something that doesn't even matter - it's the content that counts. Not a name.
우리 행운의 모양은 여러개지만 행복의 모양은 하나
thedeadhaji *
Profile Blog Joined January 2006
39489 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-09-28 12:02:28
September 28 2009 11:59 GMT
#62
If that were the case, why does every single company have a marketing team? How many great products with value have failed due to poor marketing / visibility or inadvertently antagonizing the public with a botched ad campaign?

"a way to connect the foreign fans with Jaedong" is a product being 'sold' to the public/fanbase. You created a site with inherent value, and you want people to use it. The relationship is congruent to creating a product and wanting people to buy it. And by the way, "wanting people to buy it" isn't the same as "wanting to make monies", because you can very well want the public to use/buy your product so that their lives are better and the world overall will be a better place.

The fact that you fail to see it in that light is irrelevant to what the relationship between the site and its potential users - and hence the manner in which it should be presented so that both the site and its potential users get the most value and use out of it
NeverGG *
Profile Blog Joined January 2008
United Kingdom5399 Posts
September 28 2009 12:02 GMT
#63
On September 28 2009 20:59 thedeadhaji wrote:
If that were the case, why does every single company have a marketing team? How many great products with value have failed due to poor marketing / visibility or inadvertently antagonizing the public with a botched ad campaign?

"a way to connect the foreign fans with Jaedong" is a product being 'sold' to the public/fanbase. The fact that you fail to see it in that light is irrelevant to what the relationship between the site and its potential users - and hence the manner in which it should be presented.


I don't even understand what you're talking about now. Why is 'Beyond the Game' such a terrible title? Can't you answer than it a simple manner? The cafe is not a product - it's meant to be a fun and interesting addition to TL's Korean coverage - not some grand 'consumer product' or however way you want to phrase it.
우리 행운의 모양은 여러개지만 행복의 모양은 하나
samachking
Profile Blog Joined August 2007
Bahrain4949 Posts
September 28 2009 12:04 GMT
#64
Username:Samachking
Nationality: Bahraini
Notes/suggestions: Jaedong Fighting!!
"And then Earthlings discovered tools. Suddenly agreeing with friends could be a form of suicide or worse. But agreements went on, not for the sake of common sense, or decency, or self preservation, but for friendliness."
thedeadhaji *
Profile Blog Joined January 2006
39489 Posts
September 28 2009 12:05 GMT
#65
On September 28 2009 21:02 NeverGG wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 28 2009 20:59 thedeadhaji wrote:
If that were the case, why does every single company have a marketing team? How many great products with value have failed due to poor marketing / visibility or inadvertently antagonizing the public with a botched ad campaign?

"a way to connect the foreign fans with Jaedong" is a product being 'sold' to the public/fanbase. The fact that you fail to see it in that light is irrelevant to what the relationship between the site and its potential users - and hence the manner in which it should be presented.


I don't even understand what you're talking about now. Why is 'Beyond the Game' such a terrible title? Can't you answer than it a simple manner? The cafe is not a product - it's meant to be a fun and interesting addition to TL's Korean coverage - not some grand 'consumer product' or however way you want to phrase it.

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NeverGG *
Profile Blog Joined January 2008
United Kingdom5399 Posts
September 28 2009 12:07 GMT
#66
On September 28 2009 21:05 thedeadhaji wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 28 2009 21:02 NeverGG wrote:
On September 28 2009 20:59 thedeadhaji wrote:
If that were the case, why does every single company have a marketing team? How many great products with value have failed due to poor marketing / visibility or inadvertently antagonizing the public with a botched ad campaign?

"a way to connect the foreign fans with Jaedong" is a product being 'sold' to the public/fanbase. The fact that you fail to see it in that light is irrelevant to what the relationship between the site and its potential users - and hence the manner in which it should be presented.


I don't even understand what you're talking about now. Why is 'Beyond the Game' such a terrible title? Can't you answer than it a simple manner? The cafe is not a product - it's meant to be a fun and interesting addition to TL's Korean coverage - not some grand 'consumer product' or however way you want to phrase it.

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34 pages of results. Also I have no idea what the connotations are other than it being the WCG theme music.
우리 행운의 모양은 여러개지만 행복의 모양은 하나
disciple
Profile Blog Joined January 2008
9071 Posts
September 28 2009 12:09 GMT
#67
On September 28 2009 20:59 thedeadhaji wrote:
If that were the case, why does every single company have a marketing team? How many great products with value have failed due to poor marketing / visibility or inadvertently antagonizing the public with a botched ad campaign?

"a way to connect the foreign fans with Jaedong" is a product being 'sold' to the public/fanbase. You created a site with inherent value, and you want people to use it. The relationship is congruent to creating a product and wanting people to buy it. And by the way, "wanting people to buy it" isn't the same as "wanting to make monies", because you can very well want the public to use/buy your product so that their lives are better and the world overall will be a better place.

The fact that you fail to see it in that light is irrelevant to what the relationship between the site and its potential users - and hence the manner in which it should be presented so that both the site and its potential users get the most value and use out of it

what the fuck are you talking about. you are the only guy to criticize the name of the fancafe. its even more ridiculous how you put your "reasonable" stuff here like you are some kind of ultimate expert on the topic. Go safe GM from getting busted, Jeez
Administrator"I'm a big deal." - ixmike88
thedeadhaji *
Profile Blog Joined January 2006
39489 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-09-28 12:14:31
September 28 2009 12:13 GMT
#68
Are you suggesting that this fansite is shitty and poorly run? Because that's what you're implying when you associate it with GM and its products, along with its utter lack of value.

Shame.
disciple
Profile Blog Joined January 2008
9071 Posts
September 28 2009 12:17 GMT
#69
I'm associating you, and your endless knowledge about marketing ,with GM. A guy with such a spectacular ability to make precise judgement of a product's quality is wasting himself here.

Shame
Administrator"I'm a big deal." - ixmike88
ProoM
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
Lithuania1741 Posts
September 28 2009 12:19 GMT
#70
Username: ProoM
Nationality: Lithuania
Notes/suggestions: NeverGG - Don't spend your all money on lenses, buy some food! We need you alive (to take more photos of LJD ofc. ;D) !
IMBA - International Mountain Bicycling Association.
thedeadhaji *
Profile Blog Joined January 2006
39489 Posts
September 28 2009 12:20 GMT
#71
It is very true that I am indeed wanting my time here.

It is truly a shame.
iSiN
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
United States1075 Posts
September 28 2009 12:20 GMT
#72
thedeadhaji can you please stop trolling this thread? Jaedong is a product that doesn't need marketing. He sells himself and you either love him or you hate him. You obviously hate him so just stop wasting your time by posting here.
Grouty @HoN/PCKJ <--<333 || Jaedong Fan Cafe GFX
zatic
Profile Blog Joined September 2007
Zurich15366 Posts
September 28 2009 12:41 GMT
#73
On September 28 2009 21:07 NeverGG wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 28 2009 21:05 thedeadhaji wrote:
On September 28 2009 21:02 NeverGG wrote:
On September 28 2009 20:59 thedeadhaji wrote:
If that were the case, why does every single company have a marketing team? How many great products with value have failed due to poor marketing / visibility or inadvertently antagonizing the public with a botched ad campaign?

"a way to connect the foreign fans with Jaedong" is a product being 'sold' to the public/fanbase. The fact that you fail to see it in that light is irrelevant to what the relationship between the site and its potential users - and hence the manner in which it should be presented.


I don't even understand what you're talking about now. Why is 'Beyond the Game' such a terrible title? Can't you answer than it a simple manner? The cafe is not a product - it's meant to be a fun and interesting addition to TL's Korean coverage - not some grand 'consumer product' or however way you want to phrase it.

[image loading]



34 pages of results. Also I have no idea what the connotations are other than it being the WCG theme music.

Don't worry, haji is just a vain girl who wanted you to find this:
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=81718

He can't resist reminding people on and on again how bad WCG is.
ModeratorI know Teamliquid is known as a massive building
eNoq
Profile Joined June 2009
Netherlands502 Posts
September 28 2009 12:48 GMT
#74
Username: eNoq
Nationality: Dutch
Notes/suggestions: n/a
Proburu
tirentu
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
Canada1257 Posts
September 28 2009 12:51 GMT
#75
On September 28 2009 21:20 thedeadhaji wrote:
It is very true that I am indeed wanting my time here.

It is truly a shame.


haji, we love you, but please stop. It's really not necessary...
DeSu
Profile Blog Joined September 2009
Australia91 Posts
September 28 2009 12:56 GMT
#76
Username: DeSu
Nationality: Singapore
Notes/Suggestions: None
Kennigit *
Profile Blog Joined October 2006
Canada19447 Posts
September 28 2009 12:59 GMT
#77
Oh man can we please not call it Beyond The Game/. PLLEEAASSEEE~!!!!
NeverGG *
Profile Blog Joined January 2008
United Kingdom5399 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-09-28 13:35:14
September 28 2009 13:29 GMT
#78
[edited]

I honestly feel ashamed to have made this cafe now. I am not aware of the foreign scene in the slightest and my experience of the song is only from WCG Korean qualifiers. If the title is such a bad one then can you just close the OP. As people on my other blog suggested fancafes are more of a Korean thing and maybe it's just better to forget I suggested them in the first place. If someone wants to change the name then fine, but I don't know if I want to work on something which I'm now embarrassed about.
우리 행운의 모양은 여러개지만 행복의 모양은 하나
Kennigit *
Profile Blog Joined October 2006
Canada19447 Posts
September 28 2009 13:39 GMT
#79
No i will not close this. You will grow up and learn to accept criticism. The fan cafe for jaedong is a good idea - are we allowed to have an opinion on something if we are going to sign our name on it? THIS IS NOT ABOUT YOU. Fuck my life. This is about the cheesy terrible Beyond The Game WCG song that everyone makes fun of. Nevergg, if you didn't know that, i don't care - now you do.

Suggestions for new name?

JWD
Profile Blog Joined October 2007
United States12607 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-09-28 13:46:48
September 28 2009 13:43 GMT
#80
Edit: oh my god Mani, it's worse than I remembered hahaha
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