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baubo
Profile Joined September 2008
China3370 Posts
October 08 2009 08:30 GMT
#141
Not to mention he tried the same stuff on Jaedong twice and got pwned the second time.

Basically, Fantasy doesn't have that "standard" play to mix in with his cute rush/harass to complete his repertoire.



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StarBrift
Profile Joined January 2008
Sweden1761 Posts
October 08 2009 08:33 GMT
#142
Some people are saying that his play style is gimmicky because it relies on harassment timings and BO advantages but consider this:

Every protoss knows Fantasy will go for his usual style 90% of games and they know what it consists of. But he still wins against them. He plays harassment heavy (often 3 fac and starport before first armory) and even though oponents try to shut down his harass they don't succeed normally.

He is simply a mechanically and tactically strong player. Just knowing what he will throw at you is not enough to stop it. If you compare him to Flash he has a bit worse macro but his harassment and sick multitasking makes up for that.

The reason he sometimes get stomped badly is because he likes doing unforgiving builds. If you do 1 fac CC into valkyrie vs a 2 hatch muta rush on a small map and don't delay the mutas with some kind of harass you will go down. There is no transition out of the build itself that will get you to a better situation than simply following it. If you do get away with it however and get safely into the midgame then you are in a great position to put pressure on your opponent and cripple him to the point where you can roll him (Fantasy style).

If your question was "Would Fantasy have been as hyped as he is now without the SKT1 think tanks of Boxer and Oov?" then the answer is clearly no. But if your question was "Would he be as skilled as he is now without those tactics and trademark plays" I would say yes. His multitasking and mechanics are still top notch and he would have found a way onto the top of the scene.
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