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On August 21 2009 03:39 MuffinDude wrote:Show nested quote +On August 21 2009 03:32 o3.power91 wrote:On August 21 2009 03:19 MuffinDude wrote:If jaedong goes to khan or skt, they'll be unstoppable with their only weakness covered. Well khan's terran players needs to shape up a bit. On August 21 2009 02:31 o3.power91 wrote:I love Khan and its players, I really do, however I don't think it's the best place for Jaedong. Khan has a very light training schedule and the team seems to have a lack of discipline. Examples: 1. January's PMS session. 2. + Show Spoiler [WCG Ro16 Spoiler] +Stork's recent WCG interview where he talks about watching anime instead of practicing What are you talking about. January is one of the strictest coaches around. Thats the reason behind khans success in proleague. She's definitely successful as a coach, I'm just not sure she's strict enough. You can see how strict she was with Stork's practice for WCG in his interview.... He was watching One Piece ffs XD Edit: as to your edit, I don't think any team in the right mind would think "we have decent zergs, it won't matter much if we don't get Jaedong" Yea, but they also has to think about the cost effectiveness. But still, its offseason, no big tournys, only wcg qualifiers and hes still winning, who cares if he watches a bit of one piece. He probably was working his ass off during the pl season.
How are you spending your days now?
▲ This is the first time the FA is being implemented, which led me to think too much about it initially. I thought hard about the contracts, and I even picked up a few hobbies as I took part in my intra-team ranking competition. I watched around 130 episodes of an anime, and I still watch it from time to time. I especially enjoy watching One Piece. I watched from episode 1 all the way to episode 180 or so. My target is to watch the whole series, but I am getting worried. There are too many episodes so it's tiring (laugh).
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On August 21 2009 03:43 o3.power91 wrote:Show nested quote +On August 21 2009 03:37 Athos wrote:On August 21 2009 03:32 o3.power91 wrote:On August 21 2009 03:19 MuffinDude wrote:If jaedong goes to khan or skt, they'll be unstoppable with their only weakness covered. Well khan's terran players needs to shape up a bit. On August 21 2009 02:31 o3.power91 wrote:I love Khan and its players, I really do, however I don't think it's the best place for Jaedong. Khan has a very light training schedule and the team seems to have a lack of discipline. Examples: 1. January's PMS session. 2. + Show Spoiler [WCG Ro16 Spoiler] +Stork's recent WCG interview where he talks about watching anime instead of practicing What are you talking about. January is one of the strictest coaches around. Thats the reason behind khans success in proleague. She's definitely successful as a coach, I'm just not sure she's strict enough. You can see how strict she was with Stork's practice for WCG in his interview.... He was watching One Piece ffs XD Edit: as to your edit, I don't think any team in the right mind would think "we have decent zergs, it won't matter much if we don't get Jaedong" Oh, and stork just happened to win all his games. I don't see what the big deal is. It's not like it's a major tournament and Stork has like nobody to practice with now anyways. I wasn't arguing that Khan players suck. I was arguing that January isn't very strict with practice.
On August 21 2009 03:45 o3.power91 wrote:Show nested quote +On August 21 2009 03:39 MuffinDude wrote:On August 21 2009 03:32 o3.power91 wrote:On August 21 2009 03:19 MuffinDude wrote:If jaedong goes to khan or skt, they'll be unstoppable with their only weakness covered. Well khan's terran players needs to shape up a bit. On August 21 2009 02:31 o3.power91 wrote:I love Khan and its players, I really do, however I don't think it's the best place for Jaedong. Khan has a very light training schedule and the team seems to have a lack of discipline. Examples: 1. January's PMS session. 2. + Show Spoiler [WCG Ro16 Spoiler] +Stork's recent WCG interview where he talks about watching anime instead of practicing What are you talking about. January is one of the strictest coaches around. Thats the reason behind khans success in proleague. She's definitely successful as a coach, I'm just not sure she's strict enough. You can see how strict she was with Stork's practice for WCG in his interview.... He was watching One Piece ffs XD Edit: as to your edit, I don't think any team in the right mind would think "we have decent zergs, it won't matter much if we don't get Jaedong" Yea, but they also has to think about the cost effectiveness. But still, its offseason, no big tournys, only wcg qualifiers and hes still winning, who cares if he watches a bit of one piece. He probably was working his ass off during the pl season. Show nested quote + How are you spending your days now?
▲ This is the first time the FA is being implemented, which led me to think too much about it initially. I thought hard about the contracts, and I even picked up a few hobbies as I took part in my intra-team ranking competition. I watched around 130 episodes of an anime, and I still watch it from time to time. I especially enjoy watching One Piece. I watched from episode 1 all the way to episode 180 or so. My target is to watch the whole series, but I am getting worried. There are too many episodes so it's tiring (laugh).
As I said, its offseason. Trust me, if january wasn't strict, then khan would of never made it so far in every pl. Khan would of never been a pl powerhouse if it weren't for january. January pmses because her players sometimes don' play like they practiced.
I'm pretty sure bisu is enjoying his time too.
130 episodes in a pl season is like 1 episode every 1.5 days. Are you saying that january is so strict that stork only has 30 min every 1.5 days to do whatever he likes?
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Jaedong to SKT would be ridiculous. How could they lose a single match?
Game 1 Bisu
Game 2 Jaedong
Game 3 Fantasy
Game 4 Canata/Best
Ace Bisu/Jaedong/Fantasy
They would win everything. Let's hope he doesn't go there.
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On August 21 2009 03:46 MuffinDude wrote:Show nested quote +On August 21 2009 03:43 o3.power91 wrote:On August 21 2009 03:37 Athos wrote:On August 21 2009 03:32 o3.power91 wrote:On August 21 2009 03:19 MuffinDude wrote:If jaedong goes to khan or skt, they'll be unstoppable with their only weakness covered. Well khan's terran players needs to shape up a bit. On August 21 2009 02:31 o3.power91 wrote:I love Khan and its players, I really do, however I don't think it's the best place for Jaedong. Khan has a very light training schedule and the team seems to have a lack of discipline. Examples: 1. January's PMS session. 2. + Show Spoiler [WCG Ro16 Spoiler] +Stork's recent WCG interview where he talks about watching anime instead of practicing What are you talking about. January is one of the strictest coaches around. Thats the reason behind khans success in proleague. She's definitely successful as a coach, I'm just not sure she's strict enough. You can see how strict she was with Stork's practice for WCG in his interview.... He was watching One Piece ffs XD Edit: as to your edit, I don't think any team in the right mind would think "we have decent zergs, it won't matter much if we don't get Jaedong" Oh, and stork just happened to win all his games. I don't see what the big deal is. It's not like it's a major tournament and Stork has like nobody to practice with now anyways. I wasn't arguing that Khan players suck. I was arguing that January isn't very strict with practice. Show nested quote +On August 21 2009 03:45 o3.power91 wrote:On August 21 2009 03:39 MuffinDude wrote:On August 21 2009 03:32 o3.power91 wrote:On August 21 2009 03:19 MuffinDude wrote:If jaedong goes to khan or skt, they'll be unstoppable with their only weakness covered. Well khan's terran players needs to shape up a bit. On August 21 2009 02:31 o3.power91 wrote:I love Khan and its players, I really do, however I don't think it's the best place for Jaedong. Khan has a very light training schedule and the team seems to have a lack of discipline. Examples: 1. January's PMS session. 2. + Show Spoiler [WCG Ro16 Spoiler] +Stork's recent WCG interview where he talks about watching anime instead of practicing What are you talking about. January is one of the strictest coaches around. Thats the reason behind khans success in proleague. She's definitely successful as a coach, I'm just not sure she's strict enough. You can see how strict she was with Stork's practice for WCG in his interview.... He was watching One Piece ffs XD Edit: as to your edit, I don't think any team in the right mind would think "we have decent zergs, it won't matter much if we don't get Jaedong" Yea, but they also has to think about the cost effectiveness. But still, its offseason, no big tournys, only wcg qualifiers and hes still winning, who cares if he watches a bit of one piece. He probably was working his ass off during the pl season. How are you spending your days now?
▲ This is the first time the FA is being implemented, which led me to think too much about it initially. I thought hard about the contracts, and I even picked up a few hobbies as I took part in my intra-team ranking competition. I watched around 130 episodes of an anime, and I still watch it from time to time. I especially enjoy watching One Piece. I watched from episode 1 all the way to episode 180 or so. My target is to watch the whole series, but I am getting worried. There are too many episodes so it's tiring (laugh). As I said, its offseason. Trust me, if january wasn't strict, then khan would of never made it so far in every pl. Khan would of never been a pl powerhouse if it weren't for january. January pmses because her players sometimes don' play like they practiced. I'm pretty sure bisu is enjoying his time too.
Ok maybe I'm wrong that January was never strict, but I'm guessing that at least recently she has been less strict causing a lack of performance in R5 causing January to pms. Now even in the offseason, she isn't doing much it seems about Stork's lack of practice for WCG. Maybe she will get her act together soon but as of now, I don't think Khan is the best choice for Jaedong.
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Jaedong to SKT would be heavy shit. Then we skt1 heads clearly seen it all.
Plus i would definitely go to skorea to see them all live. I will do so anyway but, damn just imagine that shit.
Edit: Plus i would love to see midas switching team and then going powerhouse again.
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On August 21 2009 03:52 o3.power91 wrote:Show nested quote +On August 21 2009 03:46 MuffinDude wrote:On August 21 2009 03:43 o3.power91 wrote:On August 21 2009 03:37 Athos wrote:On August 21 2009 03:32 o3.power91 wrote:On August 21 2009 03:19 MuffinDude wrote:If jaedong goes to khan or skt, they'll be unstoppable with their only weakness covered. Well khan's terran players needs to shape up a bit. On August 21 2009 02:31 o3.power91 wrote:I love Khan and its players, I really do, however I don't think it's the best place for Jaedong. Khan has a very light training schedule and the team seems to have a lack of discipline. Examples: 1. January's PMS session. 2. + Show Spoiler [WCG Ro16 Spoiler] +Stork's recent WCG interview where he talks about watching anime instead of practicing What are you talking about. January is one of the strictest coaches around. Thats the reason behind khans success in proleague. She's definitely successful as a coach, I'm just not sure she's strict enough. You can see how strict she was with Stork's practice for WCG in his interview.... He was watching One Piece ffs XD Edit: as to your edit, I don't think any team in the right mind would think "we have decent zergs, it won't matter much if we don't get Jaedong" Oh, and stork just happened to win all his games. I don't see what the big deal is. It's not like it's a major tournament and Stork has like nobody to practice with now anyways. I wasn't arguing that Khan players suck. I was arguing that January isn't very strict with practice. On August 21 2009 03:45 o3.power91 wrote:On August 21 2009 03:39 MuffinDude wrote:On August 21 2009 03:32 o3.power91 wrote:On August 21 2009 03:19 MuffinDude wrote:If jaedong goes to khan or skt, they'll be unstoppable with their only weakness covered. Well khan's terran players needs to shape up a bit. On August 21 2009 02:31 o3.power91 wrote:I love Khan and its players, I really do, however I don't think it's the best place for Jaedong. Khan has a very light training schedule and the team seems to have a lack of discipline. Examples: 1. January's PMS session. 2. + Show Spoiler [WCG Ro16 Spoiler] +Stork's recent WCG interview where he talks about watching anime instead of practicing What are you talking about. January is one of the strictest coaches around. Thats the reason behind khans success in proleague. She's definitely successful as a coach, I'm just not sure she's strict enough. You can see how strict she was with Stork's practice for WCG in his interview.... He was watching One Piece ffs XD Edit: as to your edit, I don't think any team in the right mind would think "we have decent zergs, it won't matter much if we don't get Jaedong" Yea, but they also has to think about the cost effectiveness. But still, its offseason, no big tournys, only wcg qualifiers and hes still winning, who cares if he watches a bit of one piece. He probably was working his ass off during the pl season. How are you spending your days now?
▲ This is the first time the FA is being implemented, which led me to think too much about it initially. I thought hard about the contracts, and I even picked up a few hobbies as I took part in my intra-team ranking competition. I watched around 130 episodes of an anime, and I still watch it from time to time. I especially enjoy watching One Piece. I watched from episode 1 all the way to episode 180 or so. My target is to watch the whole series, but I am getting worried. There are too many episodes so it's tiring (laugh). As I said, its offseason. Trust me, if january wasn't strict, then khan would of never made it so far in every pl. Khan would of never been a pl powerhouse if it weren't for january. January pmses because her players sometimes don' play like they practiced. I'm pretty sure bisu is enjoying his time too. Ok maybe I'm wrong that January was never strict, but I'm guessing that at least recently she has been less strict causing a lack of performance in R5 causing January to pms. Now even in the offseason, she isn't doing much it seems about Stork's lack of practice for WCG. Maybe she will get her act together soon but as of now, I don't think Khan is the best choice for Jaedong.
Khan's playoff run was impressive, far better than anyone expected. Super ace match was an awesome game. Progamers are human. They can't practice hard all the time and it was said that jaedong shouldn't be carrying the team by himself. If he goes to khan, he'll be leading the team with the likes of jangbi and stork. And I'm pretty sure he'll continue to work hard in any team because he has one of the best work ethics.
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On August 21 2009 03:32 o3.power91 wrote:Show nested quote +On August 21 2009 03:19 MuffinDude wrote:If jaedong goes to khan or skt, they'll be unstoppable with their only weakness covered. Well khan's terran players needs to shape up a bit. On August 21 2009 02:31 o3.power91 wrote:I love Khan and its players, I really do, however I don't think it's the best place for Jaedong. Khan has a very light training schedule and the team seems to have a lack of discipline. Examples: 1. January's PMS session. 2. + Show Spoiler [WCG Ro16 Spoiler] +Stork's recent WCG interview where he talks about watching anime instead of practicing What are you talking about. January is one of the strictest coaches around. Thats the reason behind khans success in proleague. She's definitely successful as a coach, I'm just not sure she's strict enough. You can see how strict she was with Stork's practice for WCG in his interview.... He was watching One Piece ffs XD Edit: as to your edit, I don't think any team in the right mind would think "we have decent zergs, it won't matter much if we don't get Jaedong"
Not to mention that Stork also had an interview a while ago where he talked about his WoW addiction.
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Jaedong on any team that has feasible ACE players beside him would be fine. Khan, KT and SKT are likely the only ones who could afford him, though, afaik. The most mutually beneficial would be to Khan, because he could discipline them a bit more (the whole thing in R5 was they were the ones that were practicing the least and it pissed january off and thus we saw b teamers). KT and SKT wouldn't be as great, SKT already has a 4 person lineup that's really strong (Bisu, Best, Fantasy, Canata) and would really only want Jd as a token zerg. (Although he would probably benefit the most from this in individual leagues, as long as Bisu doesn't strangle him in his sleep or something).
KT just seems to make players horrible if they were good before coming.
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Hwadong/Jaeseung days are over.
Jaedong to SKT1 would be seriously, the end of competitive team starcraft as we know it. LOL.
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Not only does it not make financial sense for JD to go to SKT, but it could ruin the atmosphere there too. Its tough to play teammates in individual leagues, since its hard to practice properly. Everybody gets secretive, there are camps rooting for different players, its just not healthy. Boxer admitted as much in interviews from his time on "stacked" teams.
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On August 21 2009 01:30 JIJIyO wrote:
Jaedong and Midas to CJ. Do it now please.
PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE
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JD to STX? Nah, totally kidding, they don't need him.
I wonder where Go.go will end up. I like that guy.
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On August 21 2009 04:15 fusionsdf wrote:Show nested quote +On August 21 2009 01:30 JIJIyO wrote:
Jaedong and Midas to CJ. Do it now please. PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE
Midas was once in CJ ( team G.O)
so not surprise if he end up there. jaedong [ unknown ] but i will not be surprise if he has so many determination and stay in OZ. he don't want risk a new training environment
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If JD ends up on SKT1 I will probably not be following proleague next season.
TBH, wherever JD ends up he will probably be the go-to ace player. That is where the workload comes from. They only team I see that would genuinely cut down on his tiredness/playtime would be SKT1, otherwise, I don't see it becoming any better. I hope he stays with Oz.
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Just read what the Koreans said.
"OZ is willing to pay him roughly 140k. Nada prolly gets paid more than that. Getting paid 140k and being overworked in oz... not gonna happen"
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On August 21 2009 03:47 Holgerius wrote:
Jaedong to SKT would be ridiculous. How could they lose a single match?
Game 1 Bisu
Game 2 Jaedong
Game 3 Fantasy
Game 4 Canata/Best
Ace Bisu/Jaedong/Fantasy
SKT1 3 - Other Guys 0
They would win everything. Let's hope he doesn't go there.
Corrected.
I'd like to see  Jaedong go to Woongjin- he'd make an underperforming team into a legit contender, and Woonglin's supporting cast is a little better than BackHo/Lomo/HiYa. He'd teach ZerO to ZvZ too.
But it seems most likely that Jaedong's best fit is at KT, where he'd have a co-star in the mold of SKT1. It'd add some interesting dynamics, with three teams with two aces; SKT1/KT/Khan and three teams with a lot of depth and balance: CJ/Hite/STX.
But I do wish for more parity.
On August 21 2009 04:24 keV. wrote:
If JD ends up on SKT1 I will probably not be following proleague next season.
TBH, wherever JD ends up he will probably be the go-to ace player. That is where the workload comes from. They only team I see that would genuinely cut down on his tiredness/playtime would be SKT1, otherwise, I don't see it becoming any better. I hope he stays with Oz.
CJ would axe his playing time too- they don't send the same players for ACE. But CJ does not need a third zerg, even if it's the best zerg in the world.
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On August 21 2009 04:27 Elegance wrote:
Just read what the Koreans said.
"OZ is willing to pay him roughly 140k. Nada prolly gets paid more than that. Getting paid 140k and being overworked in oz... not gonna happen"
Whoa really?
Is oz really so poor that they can't pay him a decent salary compared to other top players or are they just confident no other team is willing to spend enough to buy him out (twice his salary right?)?
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Respect to Jaedong's Mum!
She's pretty much guaranteeing that he'll get a better contract.
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You might want to edit into the OP that instead of Woongjin retaining GGplay, he finally decided to retire after his wrist injury
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