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Nylan
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
United States795 Posts
August 20 2009 14:07 GMT
#221
If SKT gets anyone, it will probably be HyuN. MBC farm team, decent price, and whatnot.
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miseiler
Profile Blog Joined October 2008
United States1389 Posts
August 20 2009 14:08 GMT
#222
On August 20 2009 23:03 SkelA wrote:
hmm how much is 100 mil won in $?


http://www.lmgtfy.com/?q=100000000 won in usd
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natturner
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
342 Posts
August 20 2009 14:19 GMT
#223
lol, Jaedong's mom is pissed at Backho, Hiya, and Lomo for making Jaedong carry the team.
This nigga done stole my bike.
naonao
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
United States847 Posts
August 20 2009 14:21 GMT
#224
This probably isn't the best time for JD to be thinking of transferring teams with the OSL finals coming up.......
zdubius
Profile Joined May 2008
Slovakia126 Posts
August 20 2009 14:21 GMT
#225
Jaedong searching for another team? He sure carried the whole of OZ by himself, and deserves more rest, but still, it would be hard for me to get used to seeing him in another team. He was raised in OZ, and atm he is OZ. I can understand his mother's concerns though.
TheYango
Profile Joined September 2008
United States47024 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-08-20 14:26:40
August 20 2009 14:24 GMT
#226
On August 20 2009 23:21 naonao wrote:
This probably isn't the best time for JD to be thinking of transferring teams with the OSL finals coming up.......

Well, the bidding period extends until after OSL finals, and I'm guessing that since it's JD's parents, and not JD himself that has a problem with Hwaseung, the team will still let him prepare for OSL with them and cheer him on until then.

On August 20 2009 23:21 zdubius wrote:
Jaedong searching for another team? He sure carried the whole of OZ by himself, and deserves more rest, but still, it would be hard for me to get used to seeing him in another team. He was raised in OZ, and atm he is OZ. I can understand his mother's concerns though.

Does this mean for sure that Jaedong is actually going to leave, or can Hwaseung still bid for him? If they can still bid for him, it might not mean Jaedong leaving, but rather that he gets the much higher salary that he deserves (from his mother's comments, it seems like they feel that he's being underpaid by Hwaseung).
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Carnac
Profile Blog Joined December 2003
Germany / USA16648 Posts
August 20 2009 14:36 GMT
#227
On August 20 2009 23:24 TheYango wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 20 2009 23:21 naonao wrote:
This probably isn't the best time for JD to be thinking of transferring teams with the OSL finals coming up.......

Well, the bidding period extends until after OSL finals, and I'm guessing that since it's JD's parents, and not JD himself that has a problem with Hwaseung, the team will still let him prepare for OSL with them and cheer him on until then.

Show nested quote +
On August 20 2009 23:21 zdubius wrote:
Jaedong searching for another team? He sure carried the whole of OZ by himself, and deserves more rest, but still, it would be hard for me to get used to seeing him in another team. He was raised in OZ, and atm he is OZ. I can understand his mother's concerns though.

Does this mean for sure that Jaedong is actually going to leave, or can Hwaseung still bid for him? If they can still bid for him, it might not mean Jaedong leaving, but rather that he gets the much higher salary that he deserves (from his mother's comments, it seems like they feel that he's being underpaid by Hwaseung).

Hwaseung made an offer (which I'm sure is pretty good) and apparently promised to resign Jaedong with these exact conditions (whatever they may be) in case he doesn't reach an agreement with a different team. They didn't have to do that; if a player doesn't reach an agreement with his original team before FA negotiations with other teams and doesn't get signed by a different team the old team can pretty much force the player to accept whatever contract, because otherwise he'd end up as non-contracted semi-pro and wouldn't be able to play any professional leagues. So for Jaedong it's pretty much win-win. He will either get a new team due to some sick offer or resign with Hwaseung after the FA negotiations under conditions which I am sure are better than his current ones.
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StorrZerg
Profile Blog Joined February 2008
United States13919 Posts
August 20 2009 14:37 GMT
#228
guys money isn't the big thing with jaedong and Oz. his parents want him on a team that has some A class gamers on it that can carry the team with Jaedong. Not jaedong carry Oz and jaedong get tired out TT
Hwaseung Oz fan for life. Swing out, always swing out.
saritenite
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
Singapore1680 Posts
August 20 2009 14:37 GMT
#229
On August 20 2009 19:12 o3.power91 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 20 2009 19:11 Sunyveil wrote:
On August 20 2009 19:10 GoSu wrote:
The problem is now: Hwaseung without JD.


but they still have BACKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKHOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO

Backho, Hwaseung's star player. Sounds good


This imo.

By the way, to all you people who think Jaedong would do well in SKT1, no, he won't. (Yes you too kona)
I'm sorry, but SKT has no place for Jaedong.

Know why?

Jaedong goes to SKT, there is no way he will be able to shine as a star. SKT1 has such a strong Terran heritage and an S-class Protoss. In having Fantasy, you can see how much screen time the rest of the players get. The more recent line-ups has been a Canata-Fantasy-Bisu locomotive that plows through every other line-up.

Best hardly gets any screen time and who can blame SKT? Best is not playing as well as he was at his peak.

Either zerg player SKT pays is fielded because it is mandatory to have every race represented. I still seriously think Hyuk's win against Jaedong was partly a fluke (one can argue that it was a build order loss, yada, but everyone knows Jaedong's capacity to neutralise the initial advantage with his drone micro).

Jaedong needs to shine. Comes from hauling Oz through every situation. Where else can he get the arrogance to make such remarks as "Week of Jaedong" (Even I thought this was ludicrous, but I'm a Fantasy fan.)

SKT1 will not offer him as much chances to shine as Oz did. Why? Because SKT fans will root for their favourite players. Jaedong won't be a necessity, but a luxury.

Imagine chat in kona's livestream

Randomguy1: "Fantasy's up first"
kona: "F*** YEAH!~!!111!"
JaedongFan: "Jaedong's playing in fourth set gusy"
Randomguy2: "It won't even make it that far geez fantasy bisu canata already got this"
JaedongFan kills himself

Sorry, but in a bo5 in Proleague, Jaedong won't even get the screen time a player of his class should get. I am pretty sure with Boxer back in his throne, SKT has upped the bias for its Terran players. Jaedong's talent will be misplaced in SKT.

Jaedong for CJ imo. Why? Effort and Jaedong will sweep PL and Kwanro will pull out the odd win.
Why CJ? Because SKT v CJ would fucking be fucking balls to the fucking walls awesome. Why? Because fucking TvZ is the most fucking exciting matchup ever.

Jaedong for CJ please!
RaGe
Profile Blog Joined July 2004
Belgium9947 Posts
August 20 2009 14:39 GMT
#230
Jaedong in SKT would suck imo
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Heyoka
Profile Blog Joined March 2008
Katowice25012 Posts
August 20 2009 14:42 GMT
#231
SKT lineup every match would be Jaedong Fantasy Bisu, that would get more attention than the second coming wtf are you rambling on about star attention or some shit
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Carnac
Profile Blog Joined December 2003
Germany / USA16648 Posts
August 20 2009 14:45 GMT
#232
There are quite a few teams that would be too strong with Jaedong, T1 is one of them. I'm not sure where I'd like to see him
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Zinbiel
Profile Joined October 2008
Sweden878 Posts
August 20 2009 14:48 GMT
#233
On August 20 2009 23:37 sArite_nite wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 20 2009 19:12 o3.power91 wrote:
On August 20 2009 19:11 Sunyveil wrote:
On August 20 2009 19:10 GoSu wrote:
The problem is now: Hwaseung without JD.


but they still have BACKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKHOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO

Backho, Hwaseung's star player. Sounds good


This imo.

By the way, to all you people who think Jaedong would do well in SKT1, no, he won't. (Yes you too kona)
I'm sorry, but SKT has no place for Jaedong.

Know why?

Jaedong goes to SKT, there is no way he will be able to shine as a star. SKT1 has such a strong Terran heritage and an S-class Protoss. In having Fantasy, you can see how much screen time the rest of the players get. The more recent line-ups has been a Canata-Fantasy-Bisu locomotive that plows through every other line-up.

Best hardly gets any screen time and who can blame SKT? Best is not playing as well as he was at his peak.

Either zerg player SKT pays is fielded because it is mandatory to have every race represented. I still seriously think Hyuk's win against Jaedong was partly a fluke (one can argue that it was a build order loss, yada, but everyone knows Jaedong's capacity to neutralise the initial advantage with his drone micro).

Jaedong needs to shine. Comes from hauling Oz through every situation. Where else can he get the arrogance to make such remarks as "Week of Jaedong" (Even I thought this was ludicrous, but I'm a Fantasy fan.)

SKT1 will not offer him as much chances to shine as Oz did. Why? Because SKT fans will root for their favourite players. Jaedong won't be a necessity, but a luxury.

Imagine chat in kona's livestream

Randomguy1: "Fantasy's up first"
kona: "F*** YEAH!~!!111!"
JaedongFan: "Jaedong's playing in fourth set gusy"
Randomguy2: "It won't even make it that far geez fantasy bisu canata already got this"
JaedongFan kills himself

Sorry, but in a bo5 in Proleague, Jaedong won't even get the screen time a player of his class should get. I am pretty sure with Boxer back in his throne, SKT has upped the bias for its Terran players. Jaedong's talent will be misplaced in SKT.

Jaedong for CJ imo. Why? Effort and Jaedong will sweep PL and Kwanro will pull out the odd win.
Why CJ? Because SKT v CJ would fucking be fucking balls to the fucking walls awesome. Why? Because fucking TvZ is the most fucking exciting matchup ever.

Jaedong for CJ please!

I agree. It's like if messi went to manchester city he would not be star because machester city already got tevez and wright-phillips and santa-cruz. he would not get as much attention bc fans and manager likes british people. also i mean, he would never get the ball because he be on bench till city won LOL.
Backho fan since 080416. Favourite terran: Mind. Favourite Zerg: Jaedong.
miseiler
Profile Blog Joined October 2008
United States1389 Posts
August 20 2009 14:48 GMT
#234
On August 20 2009 23:37 sArite_nite wrote:
Jaedong needs to shine. Comes from hauling Oz through every situation. Where else can he get the arrogance to make such remarks as "Week of Jaedong" (Even I thought this was ludicrous, but I'm a Fantasy fan.)


Agree completely. Jaedong didn't get where he is by sharing.

With too many egos, there would be far less pressure on Jaedong to perform. Less pressure, and he will get complacent.

With absolutely no backup whatsoever, of course, he could burn out. So don't send him to, say, MBC.

I think he's fine where he is.
"Jinro soo manly wearing only a T-Shirt while the Koreans freeze in their jackets" -- Double_O
"He's from Sweden, man. We have to fight polar bears on our way to school." -- Yusername
saritenite
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
Singapore1680 Posts
August 20 2009 14:50 GMT
#235
On August 20 2009 23:42 heyoka wrote:
SKT lineup every match would be Jaedong Fantasy Bisu, that would get more attention than the second coming wtf are you rambling on about star attention or some shit


SKT has shown its bias for Terran time and again because Boxer and Iloveoov are there. No doubt they will put Jaedong in the lineup and sweep all the opponents, but what's the point? Where's the drama and tension?

Would you rather hear

"Jaedong match win against Canata's BBS from a 12 hatch deficit, SKT CJ 2-2 TIED WTF NERDRAGE FU CANATA STICK TO STANDARD PLX"

or

"SKT stomps some poor other team and the poor team went home crying, expected."


@ STX
Too bad go.go had to go, I think the STX quarterfinalists grew really close after knocking one another out in OSL.
NovaTheFeared
Profile Blog Joined October 2004
United States7222 Posts
August 20 2009 14:51 GMT
#236
There may be something to entering a team packed with talent like SKT leading to laziness, but CJ is probably the worst fit of the playoff contending teams. After the re-signing of Savior, CJ has three zergs that are proleague ready. With Jaedong that would be four, and if proleague rules remained the same they could only field 2 in the initial 4 games. Any team would be better with Jaedong, but CJ probably gains the least since they have the deepest zerg lineup.
日本語が分かりますか
29 fps
Profile Blog Joined March 2008
United States5724 Posts
August 20 2009 14:53 GMT
#237
On August 20 2009 23:07 Nylan wrote:
If SKT gets anyone, it will probably be HyuN. MBC farm team, decent price, and whatnot.


noooooooooo SKT doesn't need more failzergs...
4v4 is a battle of who has the better computer.
nayumi
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
Australia6499 Posts
August 20 2009 14:58 GMT
#238
On August 20 2009 23:37 sArite_nite wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 20 2009 19:12 o3.power91 wrote:
On August 20 2009 19:11 Sunyveil wrote:
On August 20 2009 19:10 GoSu wrote:
The problem is now: Hwaseung without JD.


but they still have BACKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKHOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO

Backho, Hwaseung's star player. Sounds good


This imo.

By the way, to all you people who think Jaedong would do well in SKT1, no, he won't. (Yes you too kona)
I'm sorry, but SKT has no place for Jaedong.

Know why?

Jaedong goes to SKT, there is no way he will be able to shine as a star. SKT1 has such a strong Terran heritage and an S-class Protoss. In having Fantasy, you can see how much screen time the rest of the players get. The more recent line-ups has been a Canata-Fantasy-Bisu locomotive that plows through every other line-up.

Best hardly gets any screen time and who can blame SKT? Best is not playing as well as he was at his peak.

Either zerg player SKT pays is fielded because it is mandatory to have every race represented. I still seriously think Hyuk's win against Jaedong was partly a fluke (one can argue that it was a build order loss, yada, but everyone knows Jaedong's capacity to neutralise the initial advantage with his drone micro).

Jaedong needs to shine. Comes from hauling Oz through every situation. Where else can he get the arrogance to make such remarks as "Week of Jaedong" (Even I thought this was ludicrous, but I'm a Fantasy fan.)

SKT1 will not offer him as much chances to shine as Oz did. Why? Because SKT fans will root for their favourite players. Jaedong won't be a necessity, but a luxury.

Imagine chat in kona's livestream

Randomguy1: "Fantasy's up first"
kona: "F*** YEAH!~!!111!"
JaedongFan: "Jaedong's playing in fourth set gusy"
Randomguy2: "It won't even make it that far geez fantasy bisu canata already got this"
JaedongFan kills himself

Sorry, but in a bo5 in Proleague, Jaedong won't even get the screen time a player of his class should get. I am pretty sure with Boxer back in his throne, SKT has upped the bias for its Terran players. Jaedong's talent will be misplaced in SKT.

Jaedong for CJ imo. Why? Effort and Jaedong will sweep PL and Kwanro will pull out the odd win.
Why CJ? Because SKT v CJ would fucking be fucking balls to the fucking walls awesome. Why? Because fucking TvZ is the most fucking exciting matchup ever.

Jaedong for CJ please!

I agree with what you just said, especially the part where Terran being the dominant force in SKT. However if JD ever comes to SKT, I'm pretty sure their line-up will be nothing else but Bisu/Fantasy/Jaedong (in no particular order). Unless Jaedong isn't in a good form, there is no way in hell SKT coach will leave him on the bench. Reasons are:
1. JD has a ridiculous winning rate. For SKT as a progaming team, I believe winning is the most important factor (hell, they even cheesed in the ace match of SPL Grand Finals .../sarcasm_off). I'm not saying Canata or Best aren't any good. They can win, sure, but JD fucking dominates!
2. If SKT ever to offer JD a contract, it'll be a huge one. Will SKT let their biggest investment (possibly) rotting on the bench? Doubt that.
3. JD has a huge fan base.
4. JD's mom will drop-kick the coach and rub his weiner on shattered glass if her son is not a regular (j/k).
Sugoi monogatari onii-chan!
ReCharge
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
Philippines505 Posts
August 20 2009 15:01 GMT
#239
On August 20 2009 18:44 konadora wrote:
JAEDONG

COME TO SKT1


Jd practicing JvZ vs SKT zerg.... My Gosh, TheZerg, Hyuk, etc. are gonna improve by a fuck lot.
David Kim for Bonjwa!
disciple
Profile Blog Joined January 2008
9070 Posts
August 20 2009 15:03 GMT
#240
I doubt even SKT are in position to get another highly paid super star. The perfect scenario for me is Bisu to ACE and JD to T1, but ofc this will never happen
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