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Last Romantic

United States20667 Posts

May 28 2008 07:42 GMT

#121

On May 28 2008 14:13 bahhh wrote:
OP is never updated, why even make this thread?

95% of your posts are one liners, why even post on TL?

p4NDemik

United States13896 Posts

May 28 2008 08:27 GMT

#122

On May 28 2008 14:13 bahhh wrote:
OP is never updated, why even make this thread?

Dude. Do you have the time to make all the necessary changes daily to such an extensive OP? No? Then stop complaining. Daigomi/Pachi/whoever else makes this thread so awesome, you do a great job.

bahhh

United States888 Posts

May 28 2008 09:37 GMT

#123

Only one that actually answers my quesiton was Pachi. I didn't think it was much to ask to go in to a RESULTS and STANDINGs thread to see the results. I'll check back less often if it was only weekly updated. This aint the first time i checked it either.

Daigomi

South Africa4316 Posts

May 28 2008 10:54 GMT

#124

bahhh, all of them replied to your question since your question was rhetorical. You asked why bother doing this if you're not going to update it, which is clearly meant to make a statement rather than ask a question.

You say it's not much work to update this thing? Last season it took me six hours a week to update this thing once a week. Six hours on one day of the week, every week. That basically means I had to sacrifice one day a week simply to keep this thing running. And it's not that enjoyable work either, since it's just reading in results. This season it's been much easier thanks to pachi, so it takes me about 30 minutes to update it, and then a further 45 minutes to do the weekly stats report. Now, I can keep it update everyday, and that would take me 3 hours a week to do, but then it would become a massive hassle again, and at the end of this season we'll have to find some new person willing to do it, who'll probably do a worse job than me because he's inexperienced, and who is unlikely to be willing to sacrifice 6 hours a week himself.

So yes, demanding that this R&S thread be updated 24/7 is too much to ask at the moment. I am working on getting an automatic update to this thread, which would mean it would be automatically update all the time, but for that I need considerable hours of work from our coders, who are too busy working on other important things for the site right now, like the TSL website. Remember, everyone here is doing this on their free time, without getting anything back from it, except for nice comments most of the time.

So there you have a reply to your "question". This gets updated every wednesday, unless I'm extremely busy in which case it will get updated on thursday or friday. This means you can start every week off with a clear picture in mind of what's going on. Furthermore you get stats from the proleague that you can't get anywhere else, like the top players, or detailed map statistics. You can also look back in the detailed match results to see how the previous week went. Hopefully that will make up for the fact that it's not updated daily.

bahhh

United States888 Posts

May 28 2008 11:10 GMT

#125

i admit i am not good with words. i knew that long time ago adn i know that now. i've just recieved some b.s. about me not contributing anything in my inbox. So this will be my final post. teamliquid.net has been great. great to the point it made me forgot that this is a free non commercial website and you're all working hard for free. back to /lurker

Daigomi

South Africa4316 Posts

May 28 2008 11:28 GMT

#126

Haha, you don't have to leave. I think on TL.net everybody that's part of the community contributes. Sorry if my answer came out a bit strongly, I just wanted to explain clearly the amount of time that goes into something like this. Seriously though, TL.net wouldn't exist without people commenting on the forums, so anyone saying that someone with 888 posts doesn't contribute is talking bs. Just try not to sound like you're demanding things, and you'll be fine

Too_MuchZerg

Finland2818 Posts

May 28 2008 12:18 GMT

#127

Is 6-3 better record than 5-2? or does mass gaming effect? Or lets ask different way is 10-5 better than 5-0?

I think there is some of Zergs just barely out of ranking, like Jaedong, 815.

pachi

Melbourne5338 Posts

May 28 2008 13:27 GMT

#128

The proleague award is Most Wins, so players are ranked by amount of wins first, then seperated by other things such as losses just to give a more diverse ranking.

pachi

Melbourne5338 Posts

May 29 2008 07:58 GMT

#129

May 31st

OnGameNet Sparkyz vs Air Force ACE
(Z)

HoGiL < Andromeda > (T)

BoxeR

Leta < Othello > (T)

Sunny

Zeus/

Flower < Hunters > (P)

fOru/

Clon

Luxury < Blue Storm > (P)

DaezanG
Closer < Colosseum >

CJ Entus vs eSTRO
(T)

XellOs < Wuthering Heights > (T)

by.funny

Kwanro < Othello > (T)

Sea.Really
(Z)

sAviOr/

Nbs[gm] < Hannibal > (Z)

maGma/

SangHo

Iris< Andromeda > (Z)

hyvaa
Closer < Katrina SE >

June 1st

SK Telecom T1 vs WeMade FOX
(T)

fantasy < Colosseum > (P)

HerO

Bisu < Katrina SE > (P)

Pure

Bul_T/

Rumble < Hunters > (Z)

RorO/

Rock

BeSt < Othello > (T)

Mind
Closer < Wuthering Heights >

Lecaf Oz vs Hanbit Stars
(Z)

Jaedong < Othello > (Z)

ZerO

fOrGG < 푹풍의언덕 > (T)

PianO

ToSky/

BackHo< Hannibal > (P)

by.mingu/

Max

HiyA< Colosseum > (P)

free
Closer < Blue Storm >

June 2nd

KTF MagicNs vs STX SouL
(P)

LuCifer < Blue Storm > (Z)

Calm

Flash < Colosseum > (P)

Kal

Reach/

ZergBOy < Hannibal > (Z)

July/

SoO

rA < Wuthering Heights > (T)

Hwasin
Closer < Andromeda >

MBCGame HERO vs Samsung KHAN
(T)

Sea < Colosseum > (P)

JangBi

HyuN < Katrina SE > (P)

Stork

han/

Thezerg < Hunters > (P)

TT/

JiHyun

Pusan < Othello > (Z)

oDin
Closer < Wuthering Heights >

June 3rd

OnGameNet SPARKYZ vs eSTRO
(Z)

Luxury < Blue Storm > (P)

Tester

Shine < Colosseum > (T)

Suny

YellOw[ArnC]/ (P)

Zeus < Hannibal > (Z)

maGma/

SangHo

go.go < Wuthering Heights > (T)

Sea.Really
Closer < Andromeda >

CJ Entus vs Air Force ACE
(Z)

GGPlay < Katrina SE > (Z)

OversKy

DarkElf < Colosseum > (P)

DaezanG

EffOrt/

Nbs[gm] < Hunters > (T)

Sunny/

Clon

XellOs < Wuthering Heights > (P)

fOru
Closer < Andromeda >

June 4th

Lecaf Oz vs WeMade FOX
(T)

Lomo < Othello > (T)

NaDa

Jaedong < Andromeda > (T)

Mind

ggaemo/

inter.young < Hannibal > (Z)

RorO/

Rock

Anytime < Katrina SE > (P)

Pure
Closer < Wuthering Heights >

SK Telecom T1 vs Hanbit Stars
(T)

Canata < Wuthering Heights > (T)

GanZi

Hyuk < Blue Storm > (Z)

ZerO

Bul_T/

Rumble< Hunters > (Z)

Child/

Max(랜)

Bisu < Andromeda > (P)

free
Closer < Colosseum >

anch

United States5457 Posts

May 29 2008 08:11 GMT

#130

OP is always updated on weekly basis (or could be bi-weekly?), they have so many effort of calculating the stats and put them into table/picture format. Not just Proleague, but MSL and OSL as well.

June 2nd

KTF MagicNs vs STX SouL
(P) (P)

LuCifer < Blue Storm > (Z) (Z)

Calm
(T)

Flash < Colosseum > (P) (P)

Kal
(P)

Reach/(Z)

ZergBOy < Hannibal > (Z) (Z)

July/(P)

SoO
(P)

rA < Wuthering Heights > (T) (T)

Hwasin
Closer < Andromeda >

Finally KangMin is back, but its going to be 3-0. At least KTF isnt putting him to rust.
I believe.

LosingID8

CA10835 Posts

May 29 2008 08:50 GMT

#131

anch i don't know, games 1 and 2 most likely are KTF's, but july/soo seem to be a decent 2s combo.

3nickma

Denmark1510 Posts

May 29 2008 09:29 GMT

#132

LoL JD vs. ZerO

Just barely hitting 80 %

And finally a rematch between said JD and Mind where Mind is going to be so fucked this time around!

Guandal

Costa Rica93 Posts

June 04 2008 16:44 GMT

#133

well Mind Won LoL!!!

Daigomi

South Africa4316 Posts

June 04 2008 18:36 GMT

#134

Guys, I'll try to update this tomorrow, but if I don't then I'll update it on Sunday. Really sorry for the delay, but I've got a massive exam coming up on Saturday. Oh, it's also my birthday tomorrow, so the little free time I have atm might get taken by other things. Will see how it goes.

Fwmeh

1286 Posts

June 04 2008 19:35 GMT

#135

On May 29 2008 18:29 3nickma wrote:
LoL JD vs. ZerO

Just barely hitting 80 %

And finally a rematch between said JD and Mind where Mind is going to be so fucked this time around!

Orly?

3nickma

Denmark1510 Posts

June 04 2008 20:07 GMT

#136

On June 05 2008 04:35 Fwmeh wrote:

Show nested quote +

Orly?

Well I'm a JD fan and you can't take that away from me

Though I did not see that one coming (again). Must see the VOD to see what went wrong but will hate the fact I know the pitiful result...

pachi

Melbourne5338 Posts

June 05 2008 05:26 GMT

#137

Roster Changes for June 11 - July 9

SK Telecom T1
(Z)

punsoo(In)
(T)

Shudder(Out)

CJ Entus
Captain: (P)

Much →

Iris
Coach: 안지원(Out)
(Z)

Devil(In)

Orion(Out)

Hanbit Stars
(P)

aSam(In)

By.ReaL(Out)

MBCGame HERO
(Z)

ACE[S.G],

Air(In)

kkong,

c[fou](Out)

+ Show Spoiler [Full Rosters] +

◆ 르까프 OZ
감독 조정웅
코치 한상용

Captain: (P)

N.ACE)Ever 851001 Protoss
(Z)

ShinHwA 850110 Zerg
(Z)

Bright 850704 Zerg
(Z)

ToSky OR

Season[GnH] 870323 Zerg
(Z)

Jaedong 900109 Zerg
(Z)

ggaemo 880908 Zerg
(Z)

ZergBOy[fOu] 880714 Zerg
(T)

Dongrae 861026 Terran
(T)

HiyA 890822 Terran
(T)

fOrGG 900213 Terran
(T)

Lomo 900307 Terran
(P)

Anytime 861018 Protoss
(P)

BackHo 890509 Protoss
(P)

inter.young 881229 Protoss

◆ CJ Entus
감독 조규남
코치 (Z)

KIMDONGWOO
코치 나재웅

Captain: (T)

Iris 870205 Terran
박영민1 840113 Protoss
(P)

Nbs[gm] 871121 Protoss
(P)

By.Movie 900830 Protoss
(T)

XellOs 850209 Terran
(T)

DarkElf OR (P)

resisa 870118 Terran
(T)

Memory 890101 Terran
(T)

By.Style 900110 Terran
(T)

sKyHigh 910601 Terran
(Z)

sAviOr 871123 Zerg
(Z)

Devil 890219 Zerg
(Z)

Kwanro 900221 Zerg
(Z)

GGPlay OR

JJando_V 851205 Zerg
(Z)

NsP_JoJoBa 880709 Zerg
(Z)

EffOrt 910130 Zerg

◆ MBC게임 (P)

HerO
감독 하태기
코치 김혁섭
코치 (T)

[Oops]Lee

Captain: (Z)

Saint 880112 Zerg
(Z)

Shark 870307 Zerg
(Z)

Thezerg 880411 Zerg
(Z)

HyuN 880115 Zerg
(P)

TAENI OR

Miz.Peace 870821 Zerg
(Z)

ACE[S.G] OR (Z)

HuskaL 881017 Zerg
(T)

JoyO 820412 Terran
(T)

Light 900328 Terran
(T)

RuBy 900123 Terran
(T)

Sea 900329 Terran
(T)

910 880223 Terran
(P)

Air 881223 Protoss
(P)

Pusan 850114 Protoss
(P)

Jaehoon OR (T)

beatace 890921 Protoss
(P)

han 901210 Protoss

◆ 온게임넷 스파키즈
감독 이명근
코치 (Z)

Side_LeGenD
코치 차지훈

Captain: (T)

ClouD 850101 Terran
(P)

Zeus 840213 Protoss
(P)

Chalrenge 870611 Protoss
(P)

Spear 891017 Protoss
(P)

herb 901115 Protoss
(T)

Shine 870421 Terran
(T)

go.go 890514 Terran
(T)

Leta 891121 Terran
(T)

Justin 870822 Terran
(Z)

YellOw[ArnC] 871207 Zerg
(Z)

Luxury 871207 Zerg
(Z)

Flower 880226 Zerg
(Z)

type-b[s.g] 881213 Zerg
(Z)

HoGiL 910402 Zerg
(Z)

Clay[fOu] 910127 Zerg

◆ 삼성전자 KHAN
감독 김가을
코치 유지강
코치 (T)

DoGGi

Captain: (P)

TT 850422 Protoss
(P)

Stork 880804 Protoss
(P)

JangBi 890503 Protoss
(P)

yoon[s.g] 880326 Protoss
(P)

Brave 910824 Protoss
(T)

firebathero 880302 Terran
(T)

FrOzean 881129 Terran
(T)

CuteBOy 860524 Terran
(T)

Miracle 880908 Terran
(T)

Favian[Name] 890525 Terran
(Z)

oDin 870715 Zerg
(Z)

JiHyun 860915 Zerg
(Z)

Hades 891127 Zerg
(Z)

Juni 891106 Zerg
(Z)

Chavi[Name] 880113 Zerg

◆ 위메이드 FOX
감독 김양중
코치 원종욱
코치 김광복

Captain: (Z)

Stay 840926 Zerg
(T)

NaDa 841120 Terran
(T)

pepe 871020 Terran
(T)

BaBy 940918 Terran
(T)

Casy 860925 Terran
(T)

Mind 911003 Terran
(P)

Rock 860201 Protoss
(P)

HoOny 860211 Protoss
(P)

HerO 870114 Protoss
(P)

Pure 900120 Protoss
(Z)

FireFist 870210 Zerg
(Z)

Nal_keke 870327 Zerg
(Z)

HyunJun 870520 Zerg
(Z)

RorO 910119 Zerg

◆ STX SouL
감독 김은동
코치 조규백
코치 박재석

Captain: (T)

Hwasin 880405 Terran
(T)

Sheis 870819 Terran
(T)

TheStC 890102 Terran
(P)

Kal 901018 Protoss
(P)

SoO 880521 Protoss
(P)

BestGod 861126 Protoss
(P)

YoonJoong 900704 Protoss
(T)

Hery OR

Calm 890613 Zerg
(Z)

ZergMaN OR (Z)

July 870110 Zerg
(Z)

by.hero 900620 Zerg

◆ 한빛 Stars
감독 이재균
코치 박외식

Captain: (P)

FanTastic_NamoO 841009 Protoss
(P)

free 880714 Protoss
(P)

GuemChi 891108 Protoss
(P)

by.mingu 880826 Protoss
(P)

By.Heng 920604 Protoss
(P)

aSam 920925 Protoss
(Z)

Max 860626 Zerg
(Z)

Child 850730 Zerg
(Z)

ZerO 900218 Zerg
(Z)

by.eagle 880313 Zerg
(T)

Special[S.G] 880720 Terran
(T)

GanZi 871230 Terran
(T)

DarLinG 870708 Terran
(T)

PianO 880129 Terran
(T)

정종현 OR

MVP[Name] 910212 Terran

◆ KTF MagicNs
감독 김 철
코치 이지훈
코치 이길만
코치 (P)

EJi
플레잉코치 (T)

Sync 840110 Terran

Captain: (P)

Reach 831227 Protoss
강민 820315 Protoss
(P)

Violet 880930 Protoss
(P)

LuCifer OR (T)

Flash 881004 Protoss
(P)

Tempest 880707 Protoss
(P)

Stats 920515 Protoss
이영호1 920705 Terran
(T)

Hery OR

Calm 880108 Terran
(T)

SaiR 900517 Terran
(T)

By.Barracks 910724 Terran
(Z)

YellOw 821212 Zerg
(Z)

ZergBOy 860531 Zerg
(Z)

RaiD 871010 Zerg
(Z)

815 890201 Zerg
(Z)

Haran 890905 Zerg

◆ SK Telecom T1
감독 박용운
코치 (T)

iloveoov
코치 (P)

Kingdom
수습코치 최병훈
수습코치 김지영

Captain: (Z)

GoRush 841224 Zerg
(T)

Midas 870221 Terran
(T)

Canata 870625 Terran
(T)

In_Dove 881130 Terran
(T)

fantasy 910701 Terran
(P)

Bul_T 850213 Protoss
(P)

MuJuK 860924 Protoss
(P)

BeSt 891006 Protoss
(P)

Bisu 891103 Protoss
(Z)

Rumble 860213 Zerg
(Z)

LaKe 860618 Zerg
(Z)

AnomiA 870212 Zerg
(Z)

Hyuk 870411 Zerg
(Z)

s2 900227 Zerg
(Z)

punsoo 891017 Zerg

◆ eSTRO
감독 이지호
코치 (Z)

Xian[3.33]
코치 (T)

ArtOfTerran

Captain: (P)

Tester 841129 Protoss
(Z)

maGma 870727 Zerg
(P)

SangHo 900209 Protoss
(T)

Sea.Really 890102 Terran
(T)

UpMagiC 890310 Terran
(Z)

CCoMa 850628 Zerg
(T)

Suny 891005 Terran
(Z)

MinGu 851029 Zerg
(T)

Goodfriend 861120 Terran
(Z)

hyvaa 910423 Zerg
(T)

Ever)T(Che 880819 Terran
(T)

NsP_Fancy 880116 Terran
(P)

TossLife 871020 Protoss
(Z)

NsP_Action 920423 Zerg
(T)

by.funny 910723 Terran

◆ 공군 ACE
감독 유성열
플레잉코치 (Z)

H.O.T-Forever 811123 Zerg

Captain: (T)

BoxeR 800904 Terran
(Z)

Clon 841016 Zerg
(T)

ChRh 810915 Terran
(Z)

MuMyung 840111 Zerg
(T)

Sunny 820312 Terran
(P)

Rage 820911 Protoss
(P)

fOru 810222 Protoss
(P)

DaezanG 831003 Protoss
(Z)

OversKy 840224 Zerg

pachi

Melbourne5338 Posts

June 05 2008 05:29 GMT

#138

2008 Shinhan Bank Proleague - Week 9

June 7
WeMade FOX vs Samsung KHAN

? > (P)

Pure < Andromeda > (Z)

Hades

Mind < Othello > (T)

firebathero
(Z)

RorO/

Rock < Hunters > (Z)

JiHyun/

HerO < Blue Storm > (P)

JangBi
Closer < Colosseum >

Hanbit Stars vs STX SouL

(P)

GuemChi < Wuthering Heights > (P)

Kal

Special[S.G] < Othello > (T)

Hwasin

Max/

PianO < Hannibal > (Z)

July/

BestGod

ZerO < Andromeda > (Z)

by.hero
Closer < Katrina SE >

June 8
OnGameNet SPARKYZ vs KTF MagicNs

(P)

Spear < Blue Storm > (Z)

815

Luxury < Andromeda > (P)

LuCifer

YellOw[ArnC]/ (P)

Zeus < Hunters > (Z)

YellOw/

Reach

Chalrenge < Colosseum > [ (T)

Flash
Closer < Othello >

CJ Entus vs MBCGame HERO

(T)

DarkElf< Colosseum > (T)

Sea

Iris < Wuthering Heights > (P)

Jaehoon

sAviOr/

Nbs[gm] < Hannibal > (Z)

Saint/

Light

Much < Katrina SE > (P)

Pusan
Closer < Othello >

June 9
SK Telecom T1 vs Air Force ACE

(Z)

GoRush < Colosseum > (P)

Rage

BeSt < Katrina SE > (P)

DaezanG

s2/

MuJuK < Hunters > (Z)

Clon/

fOru

Canata < Othello > (Z)

OversKy
Closer < Wuthering Heights >

Lecaf Oz vs eSTRO

(T)

fOrGG < Othello > (T)

UpMagiC

Lomo < Wuthering Heights > (T)

Sea.Really
(Z)

ToSky/

BackHo < Hannibal > (Z)

hyvaa/

Tester

HiyA < Colosseum > (T)

Suny
Closer < Blue Storm >

June 10
Hanbit Stars vs Samsung KHAN

(P)

GuemChi < Blue Storm > (Z)

oDin

free < Colosseum > (P)

JangBi

ZerO/

by.mingu < Hannibal > (Z)

JiHyun/

FanTastic_NamoO < Wuthering Heights > (P)

Stork
Closer < Andromeda >

WeMade FOX vs STX SouL

(P)

Pure < Katrina SE > (P)

YoonJoong

Mind < Colosseum > (P)

Kal

RorO/

Rock < Hunters > (Z)

July/

SoO

NaDa < Wuthering Heights > (T)

Hwasin
Closer < Andromeda >

June 11
CJ Entus vs KTF MagicNs

(Z)

Kwanro < Blue Storm > (P)

LuCifer

DarkElf < Colosseum > (T)

Flash

sAviOr/

Nbs[gm] < Hannibal > (Z)

ZergBOy/

Reach

XellOs < Wuthering Heights > (P)

rA
Closer < Andromeda >

OnGameNet SPARKYZ vs MBCGame HERO

(T)

Shine < Colosseum > (T)

RuBy

Chalrenge < Katrina SE > (T)

Sea

YellOw[ArnC]/ (P)

Zeus < Hunters > (Z)

Miz.Peace/ (P)

Air

Leta < Othello > (Z)

HyuN
Closer < Wuthering Heights >

Ilvy

Germany2445 Posts

June 05 2008 06:05 GMT

#139

On June 05 2008 03:36 Daigomi wrote:
Guys, I'll try to update this tomorrow, but if I don't then I'll update it on Sunday. Really sorry for the delay, but I've got a massive exam coming up on Saturday. Oh, it's also my birthday tomorrow, so the little free time I have atm might get taken by other things. Will see how it goes.

Happy Bday Daigomi :D

Last Romantic

United States20667 Posts

June 05 2008 06:24 GMT

#140

Double Lee Young Ho!

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