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Howdy doo! Many thanks to Live2Win for updating us on the sponsor and the NEW format for this upcoming MSL. If you missed it you obviously don't check the News like any other diarrhea thread creator so check the News! Big pimping preview.
Do you ever catch yourself asking, what's going on? Who's winning? Who the heck advances? I don't get this. Well you have come to the right thread! Through all the valuable resources that our community puts together at TL.net sometimes you can still get lost amidst all the helpful threads out there. That is why I bring them all together and present to you.
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<font size = 4><center>Gom TV 2 MSL Results and Standings</center></font>
Banner made by sexy time, I mean KizZBG.
-A Little MSL History-
KPGA 1st Tour (2/14/02 - 4/14/02) - (T)BoxeR > (Z)YellOw
Reebok KPGA 2nd Tour (4/18/02 - 6/22/02) - (T)NaDa > (Z)YellOw
Pepsi Twist KPGA 3rd Tour (7/4/02 - 10/5/02) - (T)NaDa > (P)Reach
Baskin Robbins KPGA 4th Tour (10/25/02 - 1/18/03) - (T)NaDa > (Z)ChOJJa
Stout MSL (4/17/03 - 7/19/03) - (P)Nal_rA > (T)NaDa
Trigem MSL (9/4/03 - 11/6/03) - (T)iloveoov > (Z)YellOw
HanaFOS CENGAME MSL (1/8/04 - 4/18/04) - (T)iloveoov > (T)NaDa
SPRIS MSL (5/20/04 - 8/29/04) - (T)iloveoov > (P)Kingdom
You're the Golf King MSL (9/30/04 - 2/6/05) - (Z)GoRush > (T)NaDa
UZOO MSL (4/21/05 - 8/6/05) - (Z)sAviOr > (P)Reach
LG CYON MSL (10/6/05 - 1/14/06) - (Z)ChOJJa > (Z)sAviOr
Pringles 1 MSL (4/6/06 - 7/16/06) - (Z)sAviOr > (P)Nal_rA
Pringles 2 MSL (8/17/06 - 11/11/06) - (Z)sAviOr > (Z)SiLvEr
Gom TV MSL (11/30/06 - 3/3/07) - (P)Bisu > (Z)sAviOr
-Some Interesting Notes-
sAviOr's MSL dominance
sAviOr has played in the last 5 MSL finals winning 3 of them. The only player to have accomplished a finer record is none other than the player sAviOr beat in Shinhan 3 OSL, NaDa. NaDa has played in 6 MSL finals winning 3 and getting 2nd in the other 3. The difference one may argue is that sAviOr plays very consistently and plays in 5 finals IN A ROW. Could this be the MSL where sAviOr plays in his 6th MSL final?
The Protoss Savior, the anti-sAviOr, Bisu
Back in the Pringles 2 MSL Results and Standings, I said there may never be a Protoss dominance in the MSL. Traditionally Protoss have always struggled to have a heavy presence in any individual tournament. However, when Bisu trampled over sAviOr it no doubt gave hope to Protoss fans everywhere. Could this be the start of something new? Bruce Lee Toss, will you have an amazing career like Bruce Lee and have an early end? I hope not.
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<font size = 3><center>The Players</center></font>
A big change in this MSL is that they have changed the format from a double elimination group 16 player to a giant 32 double elimination group. Pretty much the first stage of the game has just been doubled meaning twice the amount of players, and twice the amount of seeds.
--Terran: The Pride of War (17)--
#3 Seed HwaSIn (STX SouL) - 진영수 "Jin Yeong Su"
#5 Seed Justin (OGN Sparkyz) - 원종서 "Won Jong Seo"
#6 Seed Light (MBC Game Hero) - 이재호 "Yi Jae Ho"
#7 Seed NaDa (Pantech Ex) - 이윤열 "Yi Yun Yeol"
910 (MBC Game Hero) - 강구열 "Gang Gu Yeol"
BoxeR (Air Force ACE) - 임요환 "Im Yo Hwan"
FireBatHero (Samsung Khan) - 이성은 "Yi Seong Eun"
Canata (SK Telecom T1) - 고인규 "Go In Gyu"
FreeDom (Samsung Khan) - 장용석 "Jang Yong Seok"
go.go (OGN Sparkyz) - 김창희 "Gim Chang Hui"
GoodFrienD (KTF MagicNs) - 이병민 "Yi Byeong Min"
iloveoov (SK Telecom T1) - 최연성 "Choe Yeon Seong"
Midas (SK Telecom T1) - 전상욱 "Jeon Sang Uk"
sAviOr (CJ Entus) - 마재윤 "Ma Jae Yun" (only vs Zerg)
Sea (MBC Game Hero) - 염보성 "Yeom Bo Seong"
Sheis (STX SouL) - 박정욱 "Bak Jeong Uk"
Shine (OGN Sparkyz) - 안상원 "An Sang Won"
XellOs (CJ Entus) - 서지훈 "Seo Ji Hun"
--Zerg: Overcome All (7)--
#2 Seed sAviOr (CJ Entus) - 마재윤 "Ma Jae Yun" (only vs Terran and Protoss)
#8 Seed JJu (Samsung Khan) - 변은종 "Byeon Eun Jong"
Child (STX SouL) - 김남기 "Gim Nam Gi"
GoRush (SK Telecom T1) - 박태민 "Bak Tae Min"
July (MBC Game Hero / SK Telecom T1) - 박성준 "Bak Seong Jun"
keke (Pantech EX) - 임동혁 "Im Dong Hyeok"
OversKy (CJ Entus) - 이주영 "Yi Ju Yeong"
--Protoss: Victory After Victory (8)--
#1 Seed Bisu (MBC Game Hero) - 김택용 "Gim Taek Yong"
#4 Seed Nal_rA (KTF MagicNs) - 강민 "Gang Min"
Chalrenge (OGN Sparkyz) - 이승훈 "Yi Seung Hun"
JangBi (Samsung Khan) - 허영무 "Heo Yeong Mu"
free (Hanbit Stars) - 윤용태 "Yun Yong Tae"
Much (CJ Entus) - 박영민 "Bak Yeong Min"
StOrk (Samsung Khan) - 송병구 "Song Byeong Gu"
TT (Samsung Khan) - 박성훈 "Bak Seong Hun"
--Team Distributions--
Air Force ACE: 1 (BoxeR)
CJ Entus: 4 (XellOs, sAviOr, OversKy, Much)
eSTRO: 0 (D=)
Hanbit Stars: 1 (free)
KTF MagicNs: 2 (GoodFrienD, Nal_rA)
Lecaf Oz: 0 (D=)
MBC Hero: 5 (910, Light, Sea, July, Bisu)
OGN Sparkyz: 4 (go.go, Justin, Shine, Chalrenge)
Pantech EX: 2 (NaDa, keke)
Samsung Khan: 6 (FireBatHero, FreeDom, JJu, JangBi, TT, StOrk)
SKTelecom T1: 4 (Canata, iloveoov, Midas, GoRush)
STX SouL: 3 (HwaSIn, Sheis, Child)
Note: HwaSIn and Nal_rA were tied for 3rd at the last MSL. They will be just identified as seeds until further information is provided. Seeds #5-#8 still need to be confirmed. I might imagine they will take it based on KeSPA rank? Maybe, don't listen to me, I am chobo.
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<font size = 3><center>The Maps</center></font>
Last seasons maps were Longinus 2 and Blitz X which were remakes of the previous season's maps. Desert Fox and Reverse Temple were introductory maps for Gom TV 1 MSL. Traditionally MSL will keep a map or two with some changes and introduce some new maps. They also share 1 map with OSL. However, this season they've gone for a big change and gotten 4 new maps. This was done to help keep the gameplay fresh rather than have repetitive games from last season. Good or bad here they are.
Many thanks to SonuvBob for updating us on the maps.
Gom TV Loki (곰 TV 로키)
Symmetrical 2 player map that has a very easily securable gas natural but a really difficult to secure 3rd gas. This may help PvZ greatly and may encourage two base play rather than three base. There are also MANY routes to your enemy giving it a lovely and nostalgic Bifrost feel. I think this map is really brilliant and although it encourages two base macrofests, I feel it may also show some great tactical army management and flankings etc.
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Monty Hall (몬티홀)
This map many of us are already familiar because it was introduced at the Racewars Superfight. Very interesting map that has 3 gas naturals for the 2 players. However all 3 of them are behind mineral walls that players will have to cheat through in order to scout or proxy their opponents. There are no mineral onlys and the map is flooded with 14 gases.
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Desperado (데스페라도)
This 4 player map is taking a huge leap by having two gas geysers at the main. The natural however, lacks a gas. This may help encourage the Zerg to play less 3 gas and more 2 gas strategies. 3rd gases will be hard to secure. The center of the map has a Forte look to it. It was discussed on Fighter Forum that this map was supposed to be based off of Luna and will be essentially the macro map. You can see this clearly as the naturals are easily defended and the center of the map is large to encourage large army play.
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Python (파이썬)
This 4 player map introduced with the 2007 Proleague Season 1 may also be another macrofest map. Gas natural is easily secure, 3rd gas is actually very difficult to obtain. So we're going to see a lot of two base macro play on this map I would think. It has a very Lost Temple feel to it, no? The 12-2-6-8 mains and the islands at 10 and 4. Except those islands are ramped and insanely hard to defend. As is the 1 and 7 islands.
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<font size = 3><center>The Previews</center></font>
You know how they do. They write awesome supplemental coverage for the leagues. In the past they have written recaps but the trend has shifted towards writing previews which I think was a great decision.
Format Preview - written by Live2Win (Includes introductory preview and formats)
32 Group A Preview - written by Hot_Bid (Includes preview for 32 Group A)
32 Group F Preview - written by Yours_Truly (Includes preview for 32 Group F)
32 Group H Preview - written by Live2Win (Includes preview for 32 Group H)
32 Group C Preview - written by Live2Win (Includes preview for 32 Group C)
32 Group G Preview - written by 뜨거운_Bid (Includes preview for 32 Group G)
32 Group D Preview - written by ManaRED (Includes preview for 32 Group D)
32 Group B Preview - written by Live2Win (Includes preview for 32 Group B)
16 Day 3 Preview - written by ManaRED (Includes preview for Jun 7th Round 16 games)
16 Day 4 Preview - written by Live2Win (Includes preview for Jun 9th Round 16 games)
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<font size = 3><center>Results and Standings for the Group of 32</center></font>
This is the first stage of this season's MSL. Increased by twofold literally from last season. Rather than 4 double elimination groups of 4, we have 8 double elimination groups of 4. The players are selected into a group into a complicated process which is known as steal draft.
The Steal Draft
The steal draft basically works like this. There are 8 seeds and all ranked accordingly from A-H. They are all set in stone into their groups. The bottom 8 ranked players from 32-25 are put in reverse order from A-H. So 32 will be in Group A with #1 seed, 31 will be in Group B with #2 seed, etc. etc. So now we have 8 groups of 2.
The players then put themselves into a group from 9-24. But you can only put your name in a group that has a vacant spot. Who your opponent is first round matters a lot too. After that process is finished we now are finished with Part 1 of the Steal Draft. Confusing, yeah. So now we have 8 groups of 4. Aren't we done, you might ask?
No, the stealing hasn't started yet.
The players ranked 16th-1st now get make switches and adjust where people are. Eg. say Midas REALLY wanted to get revenge on sAviOr and he was ranked 12th, he could switch his name with whoever is playing sAviOr. Alas, there are 11 other players who could possibly switch him out foiling people's plans.
Finally, those with seeds get to make the final changes and then we can see the groups. This is a very complicated procedure but it allows for players to trash talk via picks or verbal trash talk and even spark rivalries with this kind of group pickings. The OSL has a more quick and straightforward process which it makes it difficult to select a rival if you are picked late.
MSL and Double Elimination
So what is double elimination? It's quite simple, really. You have to lose twice to be eliminated. In the Group of 32 play, if you lose twice in your group, you are eliminated from contention. If you win twice, that means you did NOT lose twice so you advance to the Round of 16 Single Elimination. So that means there will be one person with a 2-0 record, one person with a 2-1 record, one person with a 1-2 record, and a loser with an 0-2 record. Players with the 2-0 and 2-1 record advance.
Last season there was another double elimination round with the Group of 8 but not for this season. The second round will immediately begin as a single elimination tournament. Cool.
The games for each group will all be played in one day. That means each group on a certain day will complete all their games from Game 1, 2, Winner's, Loser's, and Tiebreak. The dates are actually very random, much thanks to SonuvBob for the link to the dates.
Note: sAviOr has anounced that he will play Terran against Zerg. No freaking joke. He will play Terran against GoRush in Group B.
---32 Group A--- (Bisu, Child, OversKy, FreeDom)
Game day: Thursday, May 3, 2007
1. (CJ Z) OversKy 2-0 -> advances to Single Elimination
2. (MBC P) Bisu 2-1 -> advances to Single Elimination
3. (Samsung T) FreeDom 1-2 -> MSL Qualifiers
4. (STX Z) Child 0-2 -> MSL Qualifiers
32 A Game 1: Bisu > Child @ Monty Hall
32 A Game 2: OversKy > FreeDom @ Desperado
32 A Winner's: OversKy > Bisu @ Gom TV Loki
32 A Loser's: FreeDom > Child @ Gom TV Loki
32 A Tiebreak: Bisu > FreeDom @ Python
---32 Group B--- (sAviOr, GoRush, JangBi, Shine)
Game day: Saturday, May 26, 2007
1. (SKT Z) GoRush 2-0 -> advances to Single Elimination
2. (CJ Z) sAviOr 2-1 -> advances to Single Elimination
3. (OGN T) Shine 1-2 -> MSL Qualifiers
4. (Samsung P) Jangbi 0-2 -> MSL Qualifiers
32 B Game 1: GoRush > sAviOr (T) @ Desperado
32 B Game 2: Shine > Jangbi @ Gom TV Loki
32 B Winner's: GoRush > Shine @ Python
32 B Loser's: sAviOr > Jangbi @ Python
32 B Tiebreak: sAviOr > Shine @ Monty Hall
---32 Group C--- (HwaSIn, keke, 910, go.go)
Game day: Saturday, May 12, 2007
1. (STX T) HwaSIn 2-0 -> advances to Single Elimination
2. (MBC T) 910 2-1 -> advances to Single Elimination
3. (OGN T) go.go 1-2 -> MSL Qualifiers
4. (Pantech Z) keke 0-2 -> MSL Qualifiers
32 C Game 1: HwaSIn > keke @ Gom TV Loki
32 C Game 2: 910 > go.go @ Python
32 C Winner's: HwaSIn > 910 @ Monty Hall
32 C Loser's: go.go > keke @ Monty Hall
32 C Tiebreak: 910 > go.go @ Desperado
---32 Group D--- (Nal_rA, BoxeR, Canata, braQ)
Game day: Thursday, May 24, 2007
1. (Samsung T) FireBatHero 2-0 -> Single Elimination
2. (KTF P) Nal_rA 2-1 -> Single Elimination
3. (Air T) BoxeR 1-2 -> MSL Qualifiers
4. (SKT T) Canata 0-2 -> MSL Qualifiers
32 D Game 1: BoxeR > Nal_rA @ Python
32 D Game 2: FireBatHero > Canata @ Monty Hall
32 D Winner's: FireBatHero > BoxeR @ Desperado
32 D Loser's: Nal_rA > Canata @ Desperado
32 D Tiebreak: Nal_rA > BoxeR @ Gom TV Loki
---32 Group E--- (Justin, Sea, Much, StOrk)
Game day: Saturday, May 19, 2007
1. (Samsung P) StOrk 2-0 -> Single Elimination
2. (MBC T) Sea 2-1 -> Single Elimination
3. (CJ P) Much 1-2 -> MSL Qualifiers
4. (OGN T) Bifrost 0-2 -> MSL Qualifiers
32 E Game 1: Sea > Justin @ Monty Hall
32 E Game 2: StOrk > Much @ Desperado
32 E Winner's: StOrk > Sea @ Gom TV Loki
32 E Loser's: Much > Justin @ Gom TV Loki
32 E Tiebreak: Sea > Much @ Python
---32 Group F--- (Light, Midas, free, TT)
Game day: Saturday, May 5, 2007
1. (MBC T) Light 2-0 -> advances to Single Elimination
2. (Samsung P) TT 2-1 -> advances to Single Elimination
3. (SKT T) Midas 1-2 -> MSL Qualifiers
4. (Hanbit P) free 0-2 -> MSL Qualifiers
32 F Game 1: Light > Midas @ Desperado
32 F Game 2: TT > free @ Gom TV Loki
32 F Winner's: Light > TT @ Python
32 F Loser's: Midas > free @ Python
32 F Tiebreak: TT > Midas @ Monty Hall
+ Show Spoiler +Gayest game in the world. TT deserves to be shot.
---32 Group G--- (NaDa, Chalrenge, July, iloveoov)
Game day: Thursday, May 17, 2007
1. (MBC Z) July 2-0 -> Single Elimination
2. (SKT T) iloveoov 2-1 -> Single Elimination
3. (OGN P) Chalrenge 1-2 -> MSL Qualifiers
4. (Pantech T) NaDa 0-2 -> MSL Qualifiers
32 G Game 1: Chalrenge > NaDa @ Gom TV Loki
32 G Game 2: July > iloveoov @ Python
32 G Winner's: July > Chalrenge @ Monty Hall
32 G Loser's: iloveoov > NaDa @ Monty Hall
32 G Tiebreak: iloveoov > Chalrenge @ Desperado
---32 Group H--- (JJu, Sheis, GoodFrienD, XellOs)
Game day: Thursday, May 10, 2007
1. (CJ T) XellOs 2-0 -> advances to Single Elimination
2. (STX T) Sheis 2-1 -> advances to Single Elimination
3. (KTF T) GoodFrineD 1-2 -> MSL Qualifiers
4. (Samsung Z) JJu 0-2 -> MSL Qualifiers
32 H Game 1: Sheis > JJu @ Python
32 H Game 2: XellOs > GoodFrienD @ Monty Hall
32 H Winner's: XellOs > Sheis @ Desperado
32 H Loser's: GoodFrienD > JJu @ Desperado
32 H Tiebreak: Sheis > GoodFrienD @ Gom TV Loki
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<font size = 3><center>Results and Standings for the Round of 16 Draw</center></font>
The second stage of the MSL. Last season the first stage was a 16 player group stage. Now we see that the 16 player group stage gone and we see a 16 player single elimination draw as the second stage of the MSL now.
Double Elimination???
Gone. It no longer exists after the first stage. Last season they had double elimination for Group of 16 and Group of 8. Well the second stage is no longer a group stage and since it is a single elimination draw. They will be played as best of 3's. Yup. 8 best of 3's.
How is it determined who plays who?
Good question. The players will all be ranked as their Group of 32 group and their place coming out of it. (B1, F2, H2, G1, etc etc.) The matchups are all predetermined by MSL and should be released once the Group of 32 is finished. If you finish second in your group, you will be playing someone who finished first in your group.
The Good, the Bad, and the Pretty
The winners of this stage not only advance to the quarterfinals, they get a seed for next season's MSL! The bad news is for the losers. Since Survivor has been completely scrapped. There's only one place for them to fall and it is a bigger fall now. They go back to MSL Qualifiers.
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Thumbs Down
Similar to the Warcraft III ladder system of thumbing down maps. The players who got first in their groups get to thumbs down one map each for the best of 3 single elimination draw. That means they don't have to play the map in their best of three. There are 4 maps and one of them doesn't get picked to play.
Note: July has switched teams. For the Group of 32, he was a part of MBC, so for the record I will keep him as a MBC Zerg, but starting from the round of 16 he will be an SKT Zerg.
Another Note involving a gosu Zerg: Somebody who lives to win informed us in sexy manner that OversKy and DaezanG have been drafted into the Korean Army. This problem is occurring more and more because every Korean male must serve in the Korean Army. The time for OversKy and DaezanG has come and they will enter basic training on June 25th but will later enroll in the Air Force and enter the services of the Air Force Progaming Team, Ace.
--16 Match A-- (OversKy vs TT)
*OversKy thumbs down Desperado.
(CJ Z) OversKy 2-0 -> advances to Basic Training in the army
(Samsung P) TT 0-2 -> Wildcard
16 A Game 1: OversKy > TT @ Python (Thu 5/31)
16 A Game 2: OversKy > TT @ Gom TV Loki (Thu 6/7)
--16 Match B-- (XellOs vs 910)
*XellOs thumbs down Desperado
(MBC T) 910 2-0 -> advances to Quarterfinals
(CJ T) XellOs 0-2 -> Wildcard
16 B Game 1: 910 > XellOs @ Python (Sat 6/2)
16 B Game 2: 910 > XellOs @ Monty Hall (Sun 6/10)
--16 Match C-- (braQ vs iloveoov)
*braQ thumbs down Desperado
(Samsung T) FireBatHero 2-1 -> advances to Quarterfinals
(SKT T) iloveoov 1-2 -> Wildcard
16 C Game 1: iloveoov > FireBatHero @ Python (Thu 5/31)
16 C Game 2: FireBatHero > iloveoov @ Monty Hall (Thu 6/7)
16 C Game 3: FireBatHero > iloveoov @ Gom TV Loki (Thu 6/7)
--16 Match D-- (StOrk vs sAviOr)
*StOrk thumbs down Monty Hall
(CJ Z) sAviOr 2-0 -> advances to Quarterfinals
(Samsung P) StOrk 0-2 -> Wildcard
16 D Game 1: sAviOr > StOrk @ Desperado (Sat 6/2)
16 D Game 2: sAviOr > StOrk @ Gom TV Loki (Thu 6/7)
--16 Match E-- (GoRush vs Sea... again)
*GoRush thumbs down Desperado
(SKT Z) GoRush 2-0 -> advances to Quarterfinals
(MBC T) Sea 0-2 -> Wildcard
16 E Game 1: GoRush > Sea @ Gom TV Loki (Sat 6/2)
16 E Game 2: GoRush > Sea @ Monty Hall (Sun 6/10)
--16 Match F-- (July vs Nal_rA)
*July thumbs down Desperado
(SKT Z) July 2-1 -> advances to Quarterfinals
(KTF P) Nal_rA 1-2 -> Wildcard
16 F Game 1: July > Nal_rA @ Python (Sat 6/2)
16 F Game 2: Nal_rA > July @ Monty Hall (Thu 6/7)
16 F Game 3: July > Nal_rA @ Gom TV Loki (Thu 6/7)
--16 Match G-- (HwaSIn vs Sheis)
*HwaSIn thumbs down Gom TV Loki
(STX T) HwaSIn 2-1 -> advances to Quarterfinals
(STX T) Sheis 1-2 -> Wildcard
16 G Game 1: Sheis > HwaSIn @ Desperado (Thu 5/31)
16 G Game 2: HwaSIn > Sheis @ Python (Sun 6/10)
16 G Game 3: HwaSIn > Sheis @ Monty Hall (Sun 6/10)
--16 Match H-- (Light vs Bisu)
*Light thumbs down Gom TV Loki
(MBC P) Bisu 2-0 -> advances to Quarterfinals
(MBC T) Light 0-2 -> Wildcard
16 H Game 1: Bisu > Light @ Desperado (Thu 5/31)
16 H Game 2: Bisu > Light @ Monty Hall (Sun 6/10)
Wildcard Round
Because OverSky won his Round of 16 match but cannot advance to the quarterfinals. That leaves us with 7 players who advanced. Now a wildcard round will be held like the one they held when BoxeR left Pringles MSL. The 8 losers in the Round of 16 will play each other to see who will take that last spot. This will be a single elimination best of 1 play so one loss means no advancing.
A Scheduling Note: MSL will no longer play on Saturdays. They have moved the games to Sunday but will be played at the same time.
1. (KTF P) Nal_rA 1-1 -> MSL Qualifiers
2. (STX T) Sheis 0-1 -> MSL Qualifiers
3. (Samsung P) StOrk 3-0 -> advances to Quarterfinals in place of OverSky
4. (MBC T) Light 0-1 -> MSL Qualifiers
5. (MBC T) Sea 1-1 -> MSL Qualifiers
6. (SKT T) iloveoov 0-1 -> MSL Qualifiers
7. (CJ T) XellOs 2-1 -> MSL Qualifiers
8. (Samsung P) TT 0-1 -> MSL Qualifiers
Wildcard Quarterfinal A Game: Nal_rA > Sheis @ Desperado
Wildcard Quarterfinal B Game: StOrk > Light @ Monty Hall
Wildcard Quarterfinal C Game: Sea > iloveoov @ Python
Wildcard Quarterfinal D Game: XellOs > TT @ Python
Wildcard Semifinal A Game: StOrk > Nal_rA @ Monty Hall
Wildcard Semifinal B Game: XellOs > Sea @ Desperado
Wildcard Final Game: StOrk > XellOs @ Desperado
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<font size = 3><center>Results and Standings for the Quarterfinals</center></font>
This is the third stage of the MSL. The players have been whittled down to naught but eight players. The round of 16 single elimination was a best of three. As we move to the quarterfinals, there is more at stake here, the games are a best of five.
Who Plays Who?
Just follow your nose... I mean KiZzBG's bracket! It's so sexy that it shows the progression of the single elimination, so you can just follow the tree and see who the next opponent of your favorite, or not so favorite players will play!
Good News, Bad News
The losers will no longer be able to play for the title MSL Champion, but they fortunately remain as a seed for the next coming MSL, I am not quite sure how they will be ranked but perhaps by performance or KeSPA ranking. The winners advance to the Semifinals and are two steps away from an MSL title.
Thumbs Down in the Best of Five
You'll notice that the players thumbed down a map but the map still gets played. Because it is a best of five and there are 4 playable maps, this means at least 1 map must be played twice. When the players thumb down a map, this ensures that a map that they may feel is particularly imbalance or not to their favor will not be played twice.
--Quarterfinal Match A-- (StOrk vs 910)
Game Day: Thursday June 28, 2007
*StOrk thumbs down Monty Hall
*910 thumbs down Desperado
(Samsung P) StOrk 3-0 -> advances to Semifinals
(MBC T) 910 0-3 -> Seed for next MSL
Quarterfinal A Game 1: StOrk > 910 @ Python
Quarterfinal A Game 2: StOrk > 910 @ Desperado
Quarterfinal A Game 3: StOrk > 910 @ Monty Hall
--Quarterfinal Match B-- (braQ vs sAviOr)
Game Day: Sunday June 24, 2007
*FireBatHero thumbs down Monty Hall
*sAviOr thumbs down Desperado
(Samsung T) FireBatHero 3-2 -> advances to Semifinals
(CJ Z) sAviOr 2-3 -> Seed for next MSL
Quarterfinal B Game 1: FireBatHero > sAviOr @ Python
Quarterfinal B Game 2: sAviOr > FireBatHero @ Loki
Quarterfinal B Game 3: FireBatHero > sAviOr @ Desperado
Quarterfinal B Game 4: sAviOr > FireBatHero @ Monty Hall
Quarterfinal B Game 5: FireBatHero > sAviOr @ Python
--Quarterfinal Match C-- (Bisu vs HwaSIn)
Game Day: Thursday June 21, 2007
*HwaSIn thumbs down Loki
*Bisu thumbs down Python
(MBC P) Bisu 3-2 -> advances to Semifinals
(STX T) HwaSIn 2-3 -> Seed for next MSL
Quarterfinal C Game 1: Bisu > HwaSIn @ Desperado
Quarterfinal C Game 2: HwaSIn > Bisu @ Python
Quarterfinal C Game 3: Bisu > HwaSIn @ Loki
Quarterfinal C Game 4: HwaSIn > Bisu @ Monty Hall
Quarterfinal C Game 5: Bisu > HwaSIn @ Desperado
--Quarterfinal Match D-- (July vs GoRush)
Game Day: Sunday June 17, 2007
*GoRush thumbs down Python
*July thumbs down Desperado
(SKT Z) GoRush 3-0 -> advances to Semifinals
(SKT Z) July 0-3 -> Seed for next MSL
Quarterfinal D Game 1: GoRush > July @ Loki
Quarterfinal D Game 2: GoRush > July @ Python
Quarterfinal D Game 3: GoRush > July @ Desperado
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<font size = 3><center>Results and Standings for the Semifinals</center></font>
The fourth stage of the MSL. This is the penultimate stage before the finals. This is the where men are separated from the boys. Only 4 players remain but only two get to advance, the other two will remain as the 3rd and 4th seed. Just like the quarterfinals were, the semifinals will be played as a best of five with two maps thumbs downed. The thumbs downed maps will assure they will not be played twice in the best of five.
--Semifinal Match A-- (StOrk vs braQ)
Game Day: Thursday July 5, 2007
*StOrk thumbs down Monty Hall
*FireBatHero thumbs down Desperado
(Samsung P) StOrk 3-2 -> advances to MSL Finals
(Samsung T) braQ 2-3 -> Seed for next MSL
Semifinal A Game 1: StOrk > FireBatHero @ Loki
Semifinal A Game 2: StOrk > FireBatHero @ Python
Semifinal A Game 3: StOrk < FireBatHero @ Desperado
Semifinal A Game 4: StOrk < FireBatHero @ Monty Hall
Semifinal A Game 5: StOrk > FireBatHero @ Loki
--Semifinal Match B-- (Bisu vs GoRush)
Game Day: Sunday July 1, 2007
*GoRush thumbs down Desperado
*Bisu thumbs down Monty Hall
(MBC P) Bisu 3-1 -> advances to MSL Finals
(SKT Z) GoRush 1-3 -> Seed for next MSL
Semifinal B Game 1: Bisu > GoRush @ Loki
Semifinal B Game 2: GoRush > Bisu @ Python
Semifinal B Game 3: Bisu > GoRush @ Desperado
Semifinal B Game 4: Bisu > GoRush @ Monty Hall
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<font size = 3><center>Results and Standings for the Gom TV 2 MSL Finals</center></font>
This is it guys. The fifth and final stage of the MSL. We've gone from a whopping 32 play orgy to 2 players duking it out for a huge place in e-Sports history. Talk about a cockfight. Like the previous two stages, the finals will be a best of five with two maps thumbed down by the players. The thumbed down maps will guarantee that that particular map will not be played twice in the 5 games.
--Gom TV 2 MSL Final Match-- (Bisu vs StOrk)
Game Day: Saturday July 14, 2007
*Bisu thumbs down Monty Hall
*StOrk thumbs down Desperado
(MBC P) Bisu 3-2 -> Bisu is your Gom TV 2 MSL Champion!
(Samsung P) StOrk 2-3 -> Better luck next season
Gom TV 2 MSL Final Game 1: Bisu > StOrk @ Loki
Gom TV 2 MSL Final Game 2: StOrk > Bisu @ Desperado
Gom TV 2 MSL Final Game 3: Bisu > StOrk @ Python
Gom TV 2 MSL Final Game 4: StOrk > Bisu @ Monty Hall
Gom TV 2 MSL Final Game 5: Bisu > StOrk @ Loki
Bracket by KiZzbG!
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Yay jkilla shark !~!~!~1`
keep going :O
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United States20661 Posts
I want rA to take this one.
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51392 Posts
my freedom fanboyism continues.
go freedom!
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BoxeR! 
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Go BoxeR, Midas, FreeDom!
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United States7488 Posts
sAviOr can make six finals appearances ina row maybe!
And it awesome to get BoxeR back, I pray he makes it past group stages.
Also... go San Jose Sharks, good to see them get first round playoff win!
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u gotta skate8152 Posts
WOOOOOOOOOO
*whips penis side to side, so that it can slap thighs and make a loud clapping noise*
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Osaka27132 Posts
Awesome into to another awesome thread.
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Very nice jkillashark!
As always 
Btw you need to change remove Shine from Khan and add go.go on Sparkyz.
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This is many terran, yes?
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Protoss power! YES! Protoss number > Zerg number! Fuck Terran!
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United States5262 Posts
On April 23 2007 06:25 Guybrush wrote:Very nice jkillashark! As always Btw you need to change remove Shine from Khan and add go.go on Sparkyz.
Whoaaa thanks for catching that! Fixed!
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Are these really new maps for the MSL?
Desperado
Loki
EDIT: nvm, i discovered the thread...
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Those maps are nice, what did you discover about the thread?
And when bisu played savior again for the master of the races, how did savior get raped? I forgot and I cant find it.
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yay group selections tonight. im not sure if i should stay up through the night to watch it.
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United States5262 Posts
On April 23 2007 13:28 BeaTeR wrote:Are these really new maps for the MSL? Desperado LokiEDIT: nvm, i discovered the thread...
Yes they are. I checked on FighterForum. They don't mention anything about the other two maps but these two are definitely in.
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I like the maps very much this season.
Also, this season, Canata will FINALLY show what he's capable of, I promise.
I feel it coming.
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Sydney2287 Posts
I love the maps, but I have to say, I do miss the old MSL system and how there was a uniqueness to it. (Losers go down to a separate bracket, not just groups to single elim)
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United States5262 Posts
Thanks for the updates SonuvBob!
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United States20661 Posts
How is Loki's third gas hard to get? The two natural multis [frontyard and backyard] both have gas. Even if frontyard is more open, it's not that much more vulnerable than RH3...
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United States5262 Posts
The frontyard is the 3rd gas I was talking about. I said it's not hard to get, I said its difficult to SECURE.
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Germany / USA16648 Posts
Which isn't generally true. Except vs T
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United States5262 Posts
Hmmm maybe y'all are right. But I personally think that the frontyard gas expo will be hard to defend. Especially against T and Z. It looks like its more difficult to defend than Nostalgia's natural.
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Germany / USA16648 Posts
Nostalgia's natural is difficult to defend?
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Group A
Bisu(P) vs Child(Z)
OversKy(Z) vs FreeDom.WeRRa(T)
Group B
sAviOr[gm](Z) vs GoRush(Z)
Jangbi(P) vs Shine(T)
Group C
Hwasin(T) vs Keke(Z)
910(T) vs GoGo(T)
Group D
Nal_rA(P) vs BoxeR(T)
Canata(T) vs firebathero(T)
Group E
Bifrost(T) vs Sea[Shield](T)
Much[gm](P) vs Stork[gm](P)
Group F
Light(T) vs midas[gm](T)
Free(P) vs TT(P)
Group G
NaDa(T) vs n.Die_cHalRengE(P)
July vs iloveoov(T)
Group H
[GsP]JJu+___+(Z) vs Sheis(T)
GooDFriend(T) vs XellOs[yG](T)
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not too many weak groups there. this season's gonna be dope
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Go for 6 times Maestro. gogogo!!!!!!
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loki looks exciting! i love 1v1, 2 player only maps. :D
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HonestTea
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You know, these days, with the expanded progaming scene, following everything is truely a headache now... wait, what's that, that's jkillashark!
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On April 26 2007 09:51 HonestTea wrote:
You know, these days, with the expanded progaming scene, following everything is truely a headache now... wait, what's that, that's jkillashark!
/me loves HonestTea
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United States5262 Posts
BIG update, Groups and maps from FiFo. Gotta love FiFo.
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Russian Federation363 Posts
On April 22 2007 22:00 Last Romantic wrote:
I want rA to take this one.
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United States5262 Posts
I want Midas to take this one.
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Group stage schedule (from OGN, who apparently can't even give info on their own Starleague). I'm not sure why the groups are out of order.
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i want boxer to take this one again.
and i want bisu to rape savior again. bisu 4-0 savior so far.
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On April:35 SonuvBob wrote:Group stage schedule (from OGN, who apparently can't even give info on their own Starleague). I'm not sure why the groups are out of order.
thank you bawb. i will use this tommorow
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CA10824 Posts
out of curiosity, why did you call eStro by their old name, eNature?
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United States5262 Posts
Hahaha... oops. Thanks for catching that.
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Nice explantaion of this most recent tournament. Seems like a lot of changes since back in the day. How about that MSL history to, eh!? I member most of it, but the winners and runners-up were getting a little cloudy over the years. To see it back up in black and white, seeing that Nada and Savior had such a dominating role over the years.. Makes u wonder why Protoss is supposed to be such an easy race to use, eh? - - v
Nal_rA was the only one, besides the recently crowned champ. Bisu, to win MSL in almost 5 years. Hats off to those two fine controlers of the Protoss race.
Anyone know where to get the maps for DL?
Group A + D should be the most interesting to keep ur eye on. So nice that Nal_rA called out Boxer in his group. He's pulling no punches and setting the standard that he is going to make a big splash in this tournament or go out w/ full-intentions known. It also sucks that Reach won't be making an appearance in this league. Hopefully he'll do better in the other leagues he's in, since that's the only one he has to focus on.
Nal_rA / Bisu[Sheild] Fighting!!!
GL
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to quote Michael from The Office US:
"It' gon' be thoppety!"
O_O!!!~zerg&toss fighting!!!~
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lmfao midas quit by accident..
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United States5262 Posts
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I love TT. He is the perfect anti-hero to follow through the MSL. I want him to cheese his way all the way to the final/semifinal just to lose to a better balanced player who out-micros the cheese rush and then works his way back up from a disadvantage to shove it in TTs face. IMHO that'd be more exciting than just games with awesome macro/micro (which are cool too dont get me wrong).
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yea TT makes it all fun ^_^
hope boxer wins it all tho <3
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TT wasnt gay.
TT was using protoss power against terran weakness.
and the people in the video liked it as much as i did so... i beg to differ.
also TT may be the next royal roader like anytime once was in so1.
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United States5262 Posts
Royal road only applies to the OSL monseiur 1 post. But I guess you guys are making a good point. I still think TT is gay cause I really like Midas.
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On May 10 2007 14:09 sanenrespectful wrote:
TT wasnt gay.
TT was using protoss power against terran weakness.
and the people in the video liked it as much as i did so... i beg to differ.
also TT may be the next royal roader like anytime once was in so1.
except he can't be because he was already in an OSL before (shinhan 2006 season 2)
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On May 10 2007 21:05 Locked wrote:Show nested quote +On May 10 2007 14:09 sanenrespectful wrote:
TT wasnt gay.
TT was using protoss power against terran weakness.
and the people in the video liked it as much as i did so... i beg to differ.
also TT may be the next royal roader like anytime once was in so1. except he can't be because he was already in an OSL before (shinhan 2006 season 2)
haha the reference to so1 osl brings up carlodajin again
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On May 11 2007 00:58 sOnagi[3.33] wrote:Show nested quote +On May 10 2007 21:05 Locked wrote:On May 10 2007 14:09 sanenrespectful wrote:
TT wasnt gay.
TT was using protoss power against terran weakness.
and the people in the video liked it as much as i did so... i beg to differ.
also TT may be the next royal roader like anytime once was in so1. except he can't be because he was already in an OSL before (shinhan 2006 season 2) haha the reference to so1 osl brings up carlodajin again
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explain please.
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Germany / USA16648 Posts
good thing I can see your IP
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This thread needs an update.
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Apparently the schedule was wrong, today was group E instead of B. (Changed due to WWI I guess)
Ro16 is 8T, 2Z, 2P so far? Eww...
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With just one group left I thought it would be fun to see this years race distributions:
Those who've advanced so far:
Oversky
July
Bisu
TT
Stork
Nal_rA
Hwasin
910
Firebathero
Sea
Light
iloveoov
Xellos
Sheis
Some numbers:
Ro16:
Terran: 50% (8)
Protoss: 25 % (4)
Zerg: 12.5 % (2)
Unknown: 12.5% (2)
Ro32:
Terran: 53% (17)
Protoss: 25% (8)
Zerg: 22% (7)
If both savior and gorush advance from the last group, the race distribution of Ro16 will be very similar to Ro32. I don't know what that proves though
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If savior advances, wouldn't he count as part terran though?
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United States2352 Posts
On May 24 2007 07:20 pachi wrote:
If savior advances, wouldn't he count as part terran though?
I think even if he starts tvz'ing full time, at his core he's a zerg player.
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Does anyone know what's the current status of Oversky and his leaving to the army? Because that might leave us with one less Zerg -_-
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thedeadhaji
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Hmm I know the CJ team was talkign with MSL about this situation... not sure if it's been resolved.
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United States5262 Posts
Did my best to make it prettier.
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United States5262 Posts
Fat update for round of 16. Gotta shower now. Smelly and sweaty from ping pong =D
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braQ thumbs down Desperado
Good Choice vs. oov.
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Germany / USA16648 Posts
so many not wanting to play on desperado. I like it though, it has created some really good matches so far.
anyway, I think we should refer to "Gom TV Loki" simply as Loki, no use in adding that sponsor name to the map name, no one says "Detonation XNote" today anymore either, but simply Detonation
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CA10824 Posts
LOL i just noticed the younha picture
i think she's pretty too plus she's EXTREMELY talented
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who's the girl in the spoiler?
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Germany / USA16648 Posts
woah, so many awesome matchups!
Firebathero vs iloveoov
Stork vs Savior
Gorush vs Sea
July vs Nal_rA
Light vs Bisu
awesome, awesome, awesome! <3
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GoRush thumbed down Desperado vs. Sea. Maybe he thinks he exhausted his total rapage style build that he used against Savior's T? There's a lot of thumbing down of Desperado going on: 2 ZvP, 1 ZvT, 2 TvT wanted no part of it.
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woooooaaaahhhhh.
sAviOr vs Stork -> Thats going to be freakin awesome.
July vs rA and Light vs Bisu both look awesome as well.
my predictions
TT > Oversky
Xellos > 910
oOv > Braq
sAviOr > Stork
Gorush > Sea
July > rA
Hwasin > Sheis
Light > Bisu
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On May 26 2007 16:59 Carnac wrote:so many not wanting to play on desperado. I like it though, it has created some really good matches so far. anyway, I think we should refer to "Gom TV Loki" simply as Loki, no use in adding that sponsor name to the map name, no one says "Detonation XNote" today anymore either, but simply Detonation
Wasn't it just Detination-F? (I have no idea what the F means though).
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Germany / USA16648 Posts
it was detonation xnote first
xnote is some notebook brand, they sponsored
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United States5262 Posts
On June 02 2007 03:19 thedeadhaji wrote:jkilla, would i be asking too much if i requested a ro16 bracket?
Oh you mean the chobo ones I made back in Shinhan days? Dude we got Kizz to make that shnazzy stuff for us now. =D.
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Braavos36373 Posts
can we get a bracket please!!!
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I wanna see KizZBG's one too 
Edit: <3 KizZBG
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Braavos36373 Posts
wow that's awesome, pretty much guarantees we won't have any mirror matchups for the ro8
thanks inraged!!!
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u gotta skate8152 Posts
OK, I came up something here. Can you please give me some feedback on it? Thanks.
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Germany / USA16648 Posts
oh, savior vs oov next round (probably)
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United States5262 Posts
THAT IS FREAKING SEXY TIME.
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KizZBG, align race/results, do something with heading, oh, and braQ barely fit his cell!! =<<
Whole bracket is very neat and pretty close to Gom-style <333
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Sweet, Bisu and Savior won't meet until the finals. 
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United States7488 Posts
The way the bracket looks currently it appears that the last cell has four players going into it. I am guessing that this is intentional and would look better than adding a bunch more boxes. Perhaps you could put something like an advance to semifinals logo in its place.
The bracket is very nice, I like it.
edit: oh, and why is Sea the only player with a tag?
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On June 06 2007 10:01 KizZBG wrote:OK, I came up something here. Can you please give me some feedback on it? Thanks.
You need spaces to put the 4 winners of the round of 8 and the 2 winners of the round of 4, to be consistent. But the pic would end up being a lot wider.
A unorthodox way of doing it, yet remaining thin enough to fit within current width constraints, is to rotate it and do it vertically.
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On June 06 2007 13:24 Zona wrote:Show nested quote +On June 06 2007 10:01 KizZBG wrote:OK, I came up something here. Can you please give me some feedback on it? Thanks. You need spaces to put the 4 winners of the round of 8 and the 2 winners of the round of 4, to be consistent. But the pic would end up being a lot wider. A unorthodox way of doing it, yet remaining thin enough to fit within current width constraints, is to rotate it and do it vertically.
Aaahh good point. I was looking at the one on the screenshot. I'm really bad with brackets D:
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On June 06 2007 13:22 semioldguy wrote:
edit: oh, and why is Sea the only player with a tag?
Nal_rA has a tag too
but i agree to remain consistent it should be "Sea" and "Ra"
or you can add tags to every player
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I can't imagine rA without Nal though 
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u gotta skate8152 Posts
OK this bracket will fit nicely into the TL.net layout. =) what do you think?
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United States7488 Posts
I guess I missed rA somehow, but I'd say that he is known by his tag more than almost any other progamer, and definately more than anyone else in the MSL. I don't think the same can be said about Sea.
Not all players use their original tags or sometime no tags at all. It's not exactly a consistent thing anyways, more of a preference from person to person. I was just curious, but I don't have a problem with it one way or another.
edit: I like both brackets. Nice work! 
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United States20661 Posts
I think all players should have tags, just because rA looks stupid. I mean, even KTF doesn't make him use KTF_rA, whereas all their other players must use KTF.
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Germany / USA16648 Posts
Generally I avoid using tags whenever possible, except for new players where it IMHO can really help and well... for rA, because like semioldguy said the tag is kinda different for him.
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Braavos36373 Posts
Sea can be just "Sea"
I like simply "Ra" but I can see how the "Nal" is like part of his name now
I actually had this problem when making LiquiScoop cards, I was not sure whether to have clantags there or not, like July[Z-zone] or savior[gm] (not even sure if savior is still in GM)
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United States7488 Posts
There are some other players I think it would be necessary to use tags for like Yellow[name] or anyone else who takes their handle from a previous progamer.
Also how does everyone feel about capitalization? i.e. comparing Savior to sAviOr or Hwasin to HwaSIn
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I just call Yellow[name] Yarnc, like most people on TL :p
And I don't capitalize anything but the first letter
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Braavos36373 Posts
i did whatever spelling they had in the KeSPA
but I agree it should be just Hwasin and Savior and Ra instead of all the funky capitalization
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u gotta skate8152 Posts
OK, bracket for this round is done. It will be updated weekly.
+ Show Spoiler +On June 08 2007 08:25 Live2Win wrote:
Notice: Because OverSky will be entering the army within a month, he will not be participating in the GomTV2 MSL anymore. To replace him, MBC will hold a Wild Card round like they did for BoxeR of the 8 people who lost in the Sweet 16. This means our heros Ever)P(TT, Oov, Stork, and Ra still have 1 chance to get in.
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United States7488 Posts
Should you maybe change the top of the bracket to say "Round of 8" instead of Round of 16?
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oooh hwasin vs bisu rematch. hwasin looked pretty angry at bisu when he got mass scouted haha
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Live2Win
United States6657 Posts
I don't use tags because they can change. Like we don't always see [NC]...YellOw do we?
I do have some weird thing about leaving tags to unknown, lesser skilled players, and then stripping them of it once they enter a starleague. Like I use to write reports with Much[gm], Free[gm], etc... then once they entered a league I just called them Much and Free.
A few exceptions are like Ever)P(TT... since TT is just gay imo.
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Live2Win
United States6657 Posts
Also, an IMPORTANT schedule update for this MSL.
MSL WILL NO LONGER PLAY ON SATURDAYS. They moved it to Sundays on the same time. Dunno why, but that's the way it's gonna be. Thursday and Sunday.
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On June 11 2007 20:00 Live2Win wrote:
Also, an IMPORTANT schedule update for this MSL.
MSL WILL NO LONGER PLAY ON SATURDAYS. They moved it to Sundays on the same time. Dunno why, but that's the way it's gonna be. Thursday and Sunday.
That's great! Sunday is the day you got a hangover, it's the best day to just sit and watch bw.
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Notice: Because OverSky will be entering the army within a month, he will not be participating in the GomTV2 MSL anymore. To replace him, MBC will hold a Wild Card round like they did for BoxeR of the 8 people who lost in the Sweet 16. This means our heros Ever)P(TT, Oov, Stork, and Ra still have 1 chance to get in.
Wow thats wonderful news. Now Savior cant face a zerg before the finals which raises the possibility that we will get a savior vs bisu MSL final even more (if nothing unexpected happends). Wouldnt it be great if savior reached both finals this season again? Dont think anyone has reached both finals at the same time twice in a row before.
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the wild card games will be played at 6:30 pm korean time. if anyone with the appropriate powers sees this, please update the calendar.
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United States5262 Posts
Boomshakalaka. Sorry about the lethargic updates. I've been really busy with school, work, and a girl. LOL.
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On June 06 2007 22:51 Hot_Bid wrote:
i did whatever spelling they had in the KeSPA
but I agree it should be just Hwasin and Savior and Ra instead of all the funky capitalization
Oh my bad. I don't know how I missed these posts. Such a long time ago. Hmmm I actually agree with you Hot_Bid, but out of habit a while ago, I tried memorizing the players handles by how they spelled it. Like instead of Slayers_`Boxer`, I tried to write it SlayerS_`BoxeR` and Nal_rA instead of Nal_Ra. So I would watch closely in the games for the handles on how the progamers themselves typed their names. If I haven't been able to keep up with it, for example Sheis. I don't know how he spells it so I just spell it Sheis.
I guess out of habit I do funky capitalization but for the newer players I'm mixed bag. If it really bothers people I'll adjust.
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Braavos36373 Posts
i don't think it bothers people it's just easier for you to write
Savior
Chalrenge
than having to remember
sAviOr[gm] (is he even in gm anymore?)
n.Die_cHaLrEnGe
and having to type that crap out every time
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Germany / USA16648 Posts
not to mention those caps look incredibly ugly and retarded
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GrandInquisitor
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I follow jkillashark's convention, if only because certain players have, by now, iconic capitalizations. Nal_rA, SlayerS_`BoxeR`, [NC]...YellOw, [ReD]NaDa - they look ...different as Nal_Ra, Slayers_`Boxer`, [NC]...Yellow, [Red]Nada. (And of course GoRush and GGPlay look awful as Gorush and Ggplay.) This is only of course if I'm bothering to include the clantag as well; if I remove the SlayerS or the [NC] then since I'm abbreviating anyway I tend to write Boxer, Yellow. (Though I still like rA)
For newer players, I try to respect that as well. So for example, when I use the full spelling of savior's nick it's always sAviOr[gm], but otherwise it's Savior. DArKeLf[S.siR] gets to keep all that when I'm referring to his full name, but otherwise it's DarkElf.
It's pretty arbitrary in some senses, I know, but I'm keen on capitalization. Some nicks just look a lot better capitalized in the right way.
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On June 19 2007 08:50 GrandInquisitor wrote:
I follow jkillashark's convention, if only because certain players have, by now, iconic capitalizations. Nal_rA, SlayerS_`BoxeR`, [NC]...YellOw, [ReD]NaDa - they look ...different as Nal_Ra, Slayers_`Boxer`, [NC]...Yellow, [Red]Nada. (And of course GoRush and GGPlay look awful as Gorush and Ggplay.) This is only of course if I'm bothering to include the clantag as well; if I remove the SlayerS or the [NC] then since I'm abbreviating anyway I tend to write Boxer, Yellow. (Though I still like rA)
For newer players, I try to respect that as well. So for example, when I use the full spelling of savior's nick it's always sAviOr[gm], but otherwise it's Savior. DArKeLf[S.siR] gets to keep all that when I'm referring to his full name, but otherwise it's DarkElf.
It's pretty arbitrary in some senses, I know, but I'm keen on capitalization. Some nicks just look a lot better capitalized in the right way.
Word. =]
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United States7488 Posts
Since the players from this round of eight automatically get seeded in the next MSL, how will that work for Stork? If Oversky were to theoretically be ready to join MSL again by the time the next one rolls around would he get the spot (I'm positive he won't be ready, but just run with me on this for a moment)? I mean, Stork did lose in the round of sixteen, but I am guesing since he won the wildcard playoff he will get a seed into the next MSL, right?
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CA10824 Posts
(CJ Z) OversKy 2-0 -> advances to Basic Training in the army
this made me laugh lol
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Osaka27132 Posts
I just read through this whole opening post again, and it just totally refreshed me on the system and how far along we are. Invaluable stuff for those of us who can't watch many live games.
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United States5262 Posts
Danke danke. I aim to help peoples understand better.
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Sweden33719 Posts
Aren't the current games (Bisu vs hwasin, Savior vs Firebathero, july vs gorush, stork vs 910 = quarter finals, not semi finals ?
Awesome post btw, I needed these things to get caught up :O
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United States5262 Posts
s2s2, thanks for catching that FA! Long time no see! =D
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Didn't we assign this job to GI? kekek
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United States5262 Posts
GI assigned himself to OSL.
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maybe it isn't interesting anymore, but just recently i noticed that Nal_rA's name is "Gang Min" instead of Kang Min or am i wrong?
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He likes to use the lame way of Romanizing hangul (Yi instead of Lee, wtf?)
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United States5262 Posts
On July 01 2007 05:36 GTR-2-Go wrote:
He likes to use the lame way of Romanizing hangul (Yi instead of Lee, wtf?)
Technically it should be I Yun-yeol, but I by itself looks a little off. My friend's last name is 이 in Korean and she spells it Yi.
...and it's hangeul not hangul.
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Germany / USA16648 Posts
* The modern name Hangul (한글) is a term coined by Ju Sigyeong in 1912 that simultaneously means "great(한) script(글)" in archaic Korean and "Korean script" in modern Korean. It is never written in Hanja, though the first syllable, han (한), if used in the sense of the word "Korean", may be written 韓. 한글 is pronounced /hangɯl/ and would be romanized in one of the following ways:
o Hangeul or Han-geul in the Revised Romanization of Korean, which the South Korean government uses in all English publications and encourages for all purposes. Many recent publications have adopted this spelling.
o Han'gŭl in the older McCune-Reischauer system. When used as an English word, it is rendered without the diacritics: Hangul, or sometimes without capitalization: hangul. This is how it appears in many English dictionaries.
o Hankul in Yale Romanization, another common system in English dictionaries.
* North Koreans prefer to call it Chosŏn'gŭl (조선글), for reasons related to the different names of Korea.
* The original name was Hunmin Jeong-eum (훈민정음; 訓民正音; see history). Due to objections to the names Hangeul, Chosŏn'gŭl, and Urigeul (see below) by the Korean minority in Manchuria, the otherwise uncommon short form Jeongeum may be used as a neutral name in some international contexts.
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United States5262 Posts
Thanks Carnac! If you guys don't want to be old school, follow the romanization rules that I use and we'll be aite.
Eg.
iloveoov - Choe Yeon-seong
Please don't spell it Choi Yeon-sung. First of all yeon and sung have the same vowel and therefore spelling the vowel as eo and u shows inconsistency. The consonant vowel ㅚ (in iloveoov's last name) should not be spelled oi cause it can be misinterpreted as 오이 instead of 외. Therefore the new Korean rules have dictated that that consonant vowel be spelled oe.
The only wrong romanization I do is people is for people who have the last name 이. The Korean governement says it should be spelled "I" instead of Lee or even the one I use Yi. But I is very ugly and Lee is just a recipe for mispronunciation. Therefore I have used Yi cause it is the most similar to the spelling and is more aesthetically pleasing.
If you guys would like help in the romanization process, I'm pretty anal about how things are spelled so I will teach you guys.
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Dude update the final results
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CA10824 Posts
iloveoov - Choe Yeon-seong
Please don't spell it Choi Yeon-sung. First of all yeon and sung have the same vowel and therefore spelling the vowel as eo and u shows inconsistency. The consonant vowel ㅚ (in iloveoov's last name) should not be spelled oi cause it can be misinterpreted as 오이 instead of 외. Therefore the new Korean rules have dictated that that consonant vowel be spelled oe.
actually his name is 최연성... so obviously ㅕ and ㅓ are different vowels. therefore Yeon-Sung would be an acceptable way to romanize it. oh, and all the korean-americans that i know that have the last name 최 all spell it Choi (including my mom's maiden name) so... meh.
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