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Ah, to be the newest of noobs.

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Jakesully
Profile Blog Joined September 2011
United States24 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-09-16 18:06:06
September 16 2011 17:37 GMT
#1
Hey guys. My name's Lauren. I'm a twenty-something who hasn't played an RTS since the campaign of Warcraft 2 when she was about nine, and I suck at Starcraft.

A buddy of mine works for MLG. Before he got his job there, he'd told me to get the game, and so I had, and it had collected dust for the past year until I finally pulled it out and decided to give it a shot. Campaign? Cool. Then he got his job, talked about it constantly, and I decided what the hell - let's give multiplayer a shot. Started off with Husky's "Introduction to RTS" videos, then decided to start playing against the computer.

Nuclear freaking disaster.

So I took a step back. Googled some more, found Day9 about two weeks ago. Watched three of his Newbie Tuesdays, got jazzed, got started. Bombed every. single. placement match. Landed Bronze, obviously. Learned to 4gate. Won some matches. Got overconfident. Lost a bunch more. Played with the flu... dropped eight places on the ladder.

It's an ugly story I have to tell. But I figure you and me, TL? We're gonna go far.

Somehow.

***
OmniEulogy
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Canada6600 Posts
September 16 2011 17:40 GMT
#2
moral of the story is learn to 4 gate and win games! lol good to see this hasn't changed from the beta x.x Good luck in your quest to get out of bronze eventually!
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Coindrop
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States203 Posts
September 16 2011 17:43 GMT
#3
Learn to love the losses! they're the most useful training tool you have!
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Sega92
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United States467 Posts
September 16 2011 17:45 GMT
#4
oh goodness, I remember being bronze, don't worry we were ALL that level at starcraft at one point or another just learn some openings (one for each match up) and practice them until they are near perfect and you'll be good to go!

good luck!
andycz
Profile Joined September 2011
288 Posts
September 16 2011 17:51 GMT
#5
Learning 4gate is why you're bronze. Learn some decent macro build and you'll be light years ahead of everyone in bronze in no time.
Always looking for practice partners. EU: andy.1535
Anachromy
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United States194 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-09-16 17:56:23
September 16 2011 17:54 GMT
#6
On September 17 2011 02:51 andycz wrote:
Learning 4gate is why you're bronze. Learn some decent macro build and you'll be light years ahead of everyone in bronze in no time.


I feel that army control and army composition are easiest to learn first. and it will give you the confidence to continue playing, what's the use of practicing for macro games if you have a huge army and no idea how to control it?

keep the game small, 1 and 2 base play is completely normal when starting out. (unless your zerg.)

inb4 huge flame attack in my direction.
Blazinghand *
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States25562 Posts
September 16 2011 18:00 GMT
#7
Hey dude, just wanted to drop by and say: don't let them haters get you down.

Not that there are any in this thread, but there are always flamers on battle.net: It's the internet. There are always haters.

Play how you'd like and enjoy the game. Don't feel like you have to get out of bronze league if you don't want to; just have fun! If having fun means getting into the top 2% of players and being in Master League, that's great. It could also mean playing team games and 4v4s with your friends, or going and playing custom games like tower defense.

If you want to really get better, there is a lot of information on that, but like getting better at anything, getting truly good at Starcraft takes time, effort, dedication, and love for the game.
When you stare into the iCCup, the iCCup stares back.
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nttea
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
Sweden4353 Posts
September 16 2011 18:02 GMT
#8
On September 17 2011 02:51 andycz wrote:
Learning 4gate is why you're bronze. Learn some decent macro build and you'll be light years ahead of everyone in bronze in no time.

there is no truth to this at all, 4gate is a great way for a newbie to learn the game, have fun and get better multitasking and forcefield micro.
OpticalShot
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
Canada6330 Posts
September 16 2011 18:04 GMT
#9
Welcome to TL!

There's lots to learn from TL, so take it a step at a time. Also, don't forget that you're playing for enjoyment, not additional stress!
[TLMS] REBOOT
Ansinjunger
Profile Joined November 2010
United States2451 Posts
September 16 2011 18:05 GMT
#10
A number of Day[9] dailies post SC2 release were quite newbie friendly. Dailies from approximately 160-200 can be really helpful, plus you can see the birth of Funday Monday, Uniden, etc. That doesn't mean you'll see pros playing like that today, but between those dailies and some of the famous ones that are very specifically help oriented (#252 talks about mouse/keyboard mechanics and mini-map, etc.), it's imo more helpful than more recent Newbie Tuesdays, as a lot of the stuff there is more advanced now in line with the viewer base's experience of the last year of playing.
Harrad
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
1003 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-09-16 18:07:42
September 16 2011 18:07 GMT
#11
SC2 is a great game with an awesome community, but the problem is that a lot of players end up taking the game too seriously, stop having fun and it all ends being a huge mental investment for them without any dividends and all they get out of the game with their approach is frustration. Trust me, I was like that for a long time, so I can talk from experience. :/

Don't be that. Have fun, enjoy and embrace learning, don't play to win, play to grow as a player, don't blindly cheese, be mannered and there will be nothing in your way of enjoying playing the game
Jakesully
Profile Blog Joined September 2011
United States24 Posts
September 16 2011 18:10 GMT
#12
Holy cow. I didn't even think anyone read the blogs. Thanks for the words so far, everyone... I'm working on it, slowly, and I definitely am going to learn what I can here. I want to have fun, but hey - I wouldn't mind getting better.

On September 17 2011 03:05 Ansinjunger wrote:
A number of Day[9] dailies post SC2 release were quite newbie friendly. Dailies from approximately 160-200 can be really helpful, plus you can see the birth of Funday Monday, Uniden, etc. That doesn't mean you'll see pros playing like that today, but between those dailies and some of the famous ones that are very specifically help oriented (#252 talks about mouse/keyboard mechanics and mini-map, etc.), it's imo more helpful than more recent Newbie Tuesdays, as a lot of the stuff there is more advanced now in line with the viewer base's experience of the last year of playing.

I'll take a look at those. I'd been just looking through his Newbie Tuesdays on the site and seeing which ones seemed like they'd be most helpful for me at the stage I'm in; I hadn't even considered looking at the other earlier dailies - I did notice that they seem to get more specialized, so I haven't checked a loto f them out. I got a lot out of 252, though. Thanks!
Hidden_MotiveS
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
Canada2562 Posts
September 16 2011 18:28 GMT
#13
On September 17 2011 03:02 nttea wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 17 2011 02:51 andycz wrote:
Learning 4gate is why you're bronze. Learn some decent macro build and you'll be light years ahead of everyone in bronze in no time.

there is no truth to this at all, 4gate is a great way for a newbie to learn the game, have fun and get better multitasking and forcefield micro.

macro rolls harder than 4gate.
HornyHerring
Profile Joined March 2011
Papua New Guinea1059 Posts
September 16 2011 18:41 GMT
#14
Maybe your avatar would do better?
oh, hai
DumJumJmyWum
Profile Joined March 2011
United States75 Posts
September 16 2011 18:49 GMT
#15
I'll have to agree with nttea. Learning 4 gate is actually good for a newbie for several reasons.
1)It's a simple build order
2)It's fun, you don't have to wait to long to get into the action
3)Don't have to worry about macro quite yet. You'll practice internalizing some stuff, and then you can progress to macro builds.

Don't stress out about the games too much!
GL HF!
qrs
Profile Blog Joined December 2007
United States3637 Posts
September 16 2011 18:55 GMT
#16
On September 17 2011 02:54 Anachromy wrote:
inb4 huge flame attack in my direction.
if there's a flame attack in your direction, it kinda goes w/o saying that you were inb4 it
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