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motbob
United States12546 Posts
OZ will lose to SKT.
OZ fans can't feel good about their team's victory last night, but many people were surprised that the match made it to the super ace stage. The general consensus was that the depth of CJ would bring them victory in days 1 and 2, but CJ took a convincing defeat on the first day, 1-4. After hearing CJ fans make "Piratezerg" jokes and emphasize their team's depth in discussions about who would win the match, it was ironic to see such lopsided victories from the top of the CJ skill ladder, where Effort was pummeled by Jaedong, to the bottom, where Hiya perfectly countered Movie's recall-happy style. OZ fans want to see this as a refutation of the "Jaedong OZ" image under which their team of choice currently suffers, and they're hopefully looking at the 4-1 win as evidence that there's a strong possibility that they can beat SKT.
Unfortunately, it's not that simple.
Look at each match on Day 1. With the exception of Lomo vs Skyhigh, each was a dismantling of the CJ player. Yet, these games tell us nothing about the skill of the players involved, because every build performed by Hwaseung's lineup was perfectly suited to the opponent. In other words, OZ's practice time advantage beat out CJ's depth.
Even in the first set,  Lomo had the early advantage until he came to his senses, realized that he is terrible at army management and macro, and let sKyHigh roll over him. In each of the other games, it's crystal clear how Coach Cho's preparation made this match a guaranteed win for Hwaseung.
 Jaedong, eyes glowing red, took out EffOrt with the ZvZ we're used to. It's clear that his claims that he's been practicing "only for Proleague," as opposed to the individual leagues, are true. Jaedong's ling micro was perfect as he exploited Effort's many mistakes on his way to the win.  Movie is known to be a very recall-happy Protoss, and HiyA's build countered that tendency perfectly. HiyA's early mass turrets forced Movie to recall with his fast arbs in a place that wasn't exactly ideal. PerfectMan used a brilliantly prepared build to wipe the floor with Iris, cutting probes and teching up so that his reaver would pop out at exactly the right timing to demolish Iris's main base and expansion. And, of course, BackHo put the icing on the cake with his cannon rush build that was designed to throw the new player Snow off his game.
I can see the hand of a creative and thorough coaching staff in the games 2 nights ago. It's possible that on any given Proleague match day, CJ would be the massive favorite to win a Bo7. But on Day 1 we saw CJ falter and lose 1-4 against brilliant strategies, which came from OZ's coach, and fantastic execution, which came from Hwaseung's huge block of practice time.
This won't be possible again against SKT.
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Jaedong's putting priority in Proleague over a golden mouse? I thought he'd be practicing for his match in OSL hmm
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There should be spoilers in the thread title T___T
The match happened less than 24 hours ago...
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luckily i have already seen this but is a little early to not have spoilers
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It depends on the lineups. SKT T1 has the advantage, but with good lineups Oz would have a chance.
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Agreed, good build decisions day 1 was basicly how they beat cj. Also their entries day 1 was awesome for oz.
Going to be harder vs skt though. Bisu, Fantasy, Best, Canata....omg.
And yes title change please!
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motbob
United States12546 Posts
ahhhhhhhh oh noooo I'm trying to get ahold of a mod now
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T1 has such an amazing lineup atm with bisu, fantasy, canata and best. As long as T1 pairs Hyuk/TheZerg with Jaedong, they'd most likely win.
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What the fuck is with this spoiling thread title..
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On August 03 2009 04:48 inReacH wrote:
What the fuck is with this spoiling thread title..
TL is a StarCraft news site, you don't want to get spoiled about the news but you go on a SC news site? Fucking moron.
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On August 03 2009 04:52 fanatacist wrote:Show nested quote +On August 03 2009 04:48 inReacH wrote:
What the fuck is with this spoiling thread title.. TL is a StarCraft news site, you don't want to get spoiled about the news but you go on a SC news site? Fucking moron.
You are the f^*(ing moron. It is a news site sure, but then why is every other recent (under 24hrs) spoiler said in a spoiler tag? Seriously, if you come on the site to enter the small vod thread and you see the games spoiled by the title, that is just crap.
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motbob
United States12546 Posts
On August 03 2009 04:56 Trezeguet23 wrote:Show nested quote +On August 03 2009 04:52 fanatacist wrote:On August 03 2009 04:48 inReacH wrote:
What the fuck is with this spoiling thread title.. TL is a StarCraft news site, you don't want to get spoiled about the news but you go on a SC news site? Fucking moron. You are the f^*(ing moron. It is a news site sure, but then why is every other recent (under 24hrs) spoiler said in a spoiler tag? Seriously, if you come on the site to enter the small vod thread and you see the games spoiled by the title, that is just crap.
I think it's probably impossible to be spoiled by this title if you're just trying to get to the small vod thread.
Nonetheless, I'm an idiot and I'm trying to fix my idiocy atm.
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On August 03 2009 04:56 Trezeguet23 wrote:Show nested quote +On August 03 2009 04:52 fanatacist wrote:On August 03 2009 04:48 inReacH wrote:
What the fuck is with this spoiling thread title.. TL is a StarCraft news site, you don't want to get spoiled about the news but you go on a SC news site? Fucking moron. You are the f^*(ing moron. It is a news site sure, but then why is every other recent (under 24hrs) spoiler said in a spoiler tag? Seriously, if you come on the site to enter the small vod thread and you see the games spoiled by the title, that is just crap.
It's people like you and those who complain and whines that just make me sad everytime I visit in TL. I mean GOD, WHAT DO YOU EXPECT? IT'S THE GOD DAMN INTERNET!
But really now, you can just pretend to not see it happen? Besides, let me break it down for ya:
VODs are on the top tab of this site, blog entries are bottom left tab of this site.... so clearly you just happen to gasp your eyes on somewhere you shouldn't be....
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On August 03 2009 04:56 Trezeguet23 wrote:Show nested quote +On August 03 2009 04:52 fanatacist wrote:On August 03 2009 04:48 inReacH wrote:
What the fuck is with this spoiling thread title.. TL is a StarCraft news site, you don't want to get spoiled about the news but you go on a SC news site? Fucking moron. You are the f^*(ing moron. It is a news site sure, but then why is every other recent (under 24hrs) spoiler said in a spoiler tag? Seriously, if you come on the site to enter the small vod thread and you see the games spoiled by the title, that is just crap.
OoooOOOooOOoOOhh noes, you get to find out which team won. This doesn't say anything about whether they won the second series, the super ace, who won what games... EVERY game is still a cliffhanger for you, until you get to the last one I guess. You should know not to browse around TL after an important game on the off-chance there are spoilers. Wait until you are ready, go to the VOD thread, then browse TL. Until then, shut the fuck up and stay out of shit like blogs.
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It's been already a full day since it happened so stop complaining about spoiling. Besides, all of you spoiler cry babies were warned to bookmark the Small Vod Thread and access that until you watch the game in order to fully avoid the possibilty of getting spoiled.
Regarding the upcoming final, SKT definitely has the upper hand, atleast in game preparation. Their players practiced the maps since PL ended and they can easily neutralise Jaedong with a zerg and have Bisu/Best/Fantasy/Canata take the other wins.
Gonna be pretty fun to watch though.
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United States3443 Posts
Lol is this whole thread, OZ was awesome and they beat cj using perfect builds and Jaedong's as monstrous as ever and for these reasons they're gonna lose to skt1, LOL I'll take my chances. And I can will feel good about last night
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On August 03 2009 05:03 QuickStriker wrote:Show nested quote +On August 03 2009 04:56 Trezeguet23 wrote:On August 03 2009 04:52 fanatacist wrote:On August 03 2009 04:48 inReacH wrote:
What the fuck is with this spoiling thread title.. TL is a StarCraft news site, you don't want to get spoiled about the news but you go on a SC news site? Fucking moron. You are the f^*(ing moron. It is a news site sure, but then why is every other recent (under 24hrs) spoiler said in a spoiler tag? Seriously, if you come on the site to enter the small vod thread and you see the games spoiled by the title, that is just crap. It's people like you and those who complain and whines that just make me sad everytime I visit in TL. I mean GOD, WHAT DO YOU EXPECT? IT'S THE GOD DAMN INTERNET! But really now, you can just pretend to not see it happen? Besides, let me break it down for ya: VODs are on the top tab of this site, blog entries are bottom left tab of this site.... so clearly you just happen to gasp your eyes on somewhere you shouldn't be....
You have to scroll down to get to Oz vs. CJ vods.
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motbob
United States12546 Posts
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On August 03 2009 06:02 d(O.o)a wrote:Show nested quote +On August 03 2009 05:03 QuickStriker wrote:On August 03 2009 04:56 Trezeguet23 wrote:On August 03 2009 04:52 fanatacist wrote:On August 03 2009 04:48 inReacH wrote:
What the fuck is with this spoiling thread title.. TL is a StarCraft news site, you don't want to get spoiled about the news but you go on a SC news site? Fucking moron. You are the f^*(ing moron. It is a news site sure, but then why is every other recent (under 24hrs) spoiler said in a spoiler tag? Seriously, if you come on the site to enter the small vod thread and you see the games spoiled by the title, that is just crap. It's people like you and those who complain and whines that just make me sad everytime I visit in TL. I mean GOD, WHAT DO YOU EXPECT? IT'S THE GOD DAMN INTERNET! But really now, you can just pretend to not see it happen? Besides, let me break it down for ya: VODs are on the top tab of this site, blog entries are bottom left tab of this site.... so clearly you just happen to gasp your eyes on somewhere you shouldn't be.... You have to scroll down to get to Oz vs. CJ vods.
I love how you're trying to argue and completely miss the whole point of my statements as well as the others here...
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