EPTMy Parents Want Me to See a Psychologist - Page 2
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MisterD
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Scarecrow
Korea (South)9172 Posts
On June 18 2011 09:00 Arkansassy wrote: Now let's see, psychiatrists dish out drugs - the majority of which have extremely bad side-effects, and the psychologists won't even talk to you until you see a shrink and are heavily medicated. This is just flat out ignorant. Psychologists will talk to you whether you're medicated or not and the majority of drugs prescribed by psychiatrists have very minor side effects. Either you're making shit up or the state of the American health system is far worse than Australia's | ||
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Deleted User 3420
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Maybe for other people, but not for me. If anything they are liable to get the wrong ideas about me, as I am pretty fucking abnormal. chef you're smart enough you'll be like whatever you want to be, and if you reflect on yourself you'll figure out whatever you want to figure out | ||
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avilo
United States4100 Posts
On June 18 2011 09:02 Torte de Lini wrote: First paragraph is blatantly wrong. Where you got this particularly idea is beyond my own understanding, have you considered a therapist? Wrong. You don't necessarily need medication due to depression (however it could be a chemical imbalance). That is the point of a psychologist/psychiatrist, to find out if you need medicine or not. I bolded the next paragraph because it is right. Your first paragraph, bolded above, is blatantly wrong. I bolded it to show that. I bolded your third paragraph (which was one sentence) because I could. The point is, it's bolded now, so the letters are bigger and darker, making me right. | ||
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MisterD
Germany1338 Posts
On June 18 2011 09:08 travis wrote: I have never liked the thought of psychologists analyzing myself, because I am a pretty critical person, and I find it insulting to think that some other person will understand myself better than I do after I talk to them for a little bit. Maybe for other people, but not for me. If anything they are liable to get the wrong ideas about me, as I am pretty fucking abnormal. chef you're smart enough you'll be like whatever you want to be, and if you reflect on yourself you'll figure out whatever you want to figure out there is no "better", there is just "different" as in "outside opinion"  Assuming there was a "better" view would mean there even is a correct one to begin with. But i don't think there is. There's a lot of different views on the same thing, and none of these has to be more correct than any other. They might be just different. And sometimes, having someone else spark ideas that change your own views so you get a better understanding and awareness of your world doesn't hurt at all, actually ;P | ||
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blahh
United States5 Posts
On June 18 2011 09:06 Scarecrow wrote: This is just flat out ignorant. Psychologists will talk to you whether you're medicated or not and the majority of drugs prescribed by psychiatrists have very minor side effects. Either you're making shit up or the state of the American health system is far worse than Australia's I think he's just making shit up. Or maybe he's just had an awful experience. Mine weren't anythint like that. On June 18 2011 09:10 avilo wrote: Your first paragraph, bolded above, is blatantly wrong. I bolded it to show that. I bolded your third paragraph (which was one sentence) because I could. The point is, it's bolded now, so the letters are bigger and darker, making me right. This is a really stupid post. Do you have anything to contribute, or are you here just to attack somebody and show how witty you are?\ Anyways, to the OP, as others have said, even if you don't think it will help, you might as well try it. It can't hurt, unless your shrink is absolutely awful. | ||
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Arkansassy
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On June 18 2011 09:06 Scarecrow wrote: This is just flat out ignorant. Psychologists will talk to you whether you're medicated or not and the majority of drugs prescribed by psychiatrists have very minor side effects. Either you're making shit up or the state of the American health system is far worse than Australia's Sticks and stones..., as they say. lol I think you should read the side-effects of psychiatric medications before you make that statement and how many people actually killed themselves or others whilst on anti-depressants. And yes the American health system is pretty screwed up. Ignores the pasta kid completely - for reasons only he'd understand. And to OP - exercise is great for depression - only you can't take a cat running with ya, can you? | ||
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Torte de Lini
Germany38463 Posts
On June 18 2011 09:10 avilo wrote: Your first paragraph, bolded above, is blatantly wrong. I bolded it to show that. I bolded your third paragraph (which was one sentence) because I could. The point is, it's bolded now, so the letters are bigger and darker, making me right. I'd bold anything notable you said but there isn't anything. In fact, you haven't said a single thing in relation to what I said, to the other party or the topic. In other words, why do you matter in this topic whatsoever if you don't even have your own say or stance? edit: now you did, finally. | ||
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avilo
United States4100 Posts
Soooooo...stay away from any meds they try to prescribe you, and if you absolutely have to see psychologist just get out of it what you can. If you're already OK, then you are. If not, then you might have another perspective on things or the person might be able to help you with something you didn't consider. Who knows. gl | ||
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Torte de Lini
Germany38463 Posts
On June 18 2011 09:19 Arkansassy wrote: Sticks and stones..., as they say. lol I think you should read the side-effects of psychiatric medications before you make that statement and how many people actually killed themselves or others whilst on anti-depressants. And yes the American health system is pretty screwed up. Ignores the pasta kid completely - for reasons only he'd understand. And to OP - exercise is great for depression - only you can't take a cat running with ya, can you? I don't understand .___.;; And psychology =/= psychiatry. They don't both give drugs, so your view is a bit one-dimensional. | ||
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n.DieJokes
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bITt.mAN
Switzerland3693 Posts
;p I kid I kid, cute Cat PsycHOTemplar If it'd make you feel any better, I promise that any time I'm on TL (online) I'd be up to playing some wierd maps about waiting to Panic, if you've hear of them... Another thing I was having a coffe, at a cafe' OFC, with this girl I have the most drawn out, messy and tough history with, and I was supposed to be helping her with math (this advice is better than any girl-blog. I gave dat bitch math help. Bitches NEED math help. e.g. 20$ + beer = BJ), so as you can imagine neither of us were too keen to talk about math. Talk talk chat pay talk some more and suddenly it just came out and I showed her my scars on my inner arm where I'd cut and told her about it. Fucking hell I've never told anyone (IRL) about that in my life. Just sayin it could have been enough, but the great thing was that (must have been) by me opening up she was confident enough to confide in me as well, and she told me her big secret that she hid and hushed away, about dealing with anorexia leading onto bolemia and how she can't help but keep an exact tally of all the grams of fat, protein, sugar and carbs she eats, every fucking day. Now I'd never had imagined she would have been in that bad, and I really feel by the way she said it that it was as closey garded a secret as the one I'd shared with her, but by confiding in and talking with By now you've probably blown your 7000th in here, and THB I'd much rather that it's well used to help you than just to bust out symbolic-celebration. So dude, if you've got anything to share you can always ask/tell us TL'ers (I'd stick to the BW-ers tho). If you doubt it's efficacity go and take a fucking look at DoctorHelvitica's last blogs and threads, COMEPETELY full of support and hope. So sitck with it man and hit me up any time for some BW  | ||
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Torte de Lini
Germany38463 Posts
On June 18 2011 09:28 bITt.mAN wrote: HARURURUR psychiatrists psychologists screw that, that's not about Chef so that has no place here. And nice probe Torte, I see it reflects your posting quality ;p I kid I kid, cute Cat PsycHOTemplar If it'd make you feel any better, I promise that any time I'm on TL (online) I'd be up to playing some wierd maps about waiting to Panic, if you've hear of them... Another thing I was having a coffe, at a cafe' OFC, with this girl I have the most drawn out, messy and tough history with, and I was supposed to be helping her with math (this advice is better than any girl-blog. I gave dat bitch math help. Bitches NEED math help. e.g. 20$ + beer = BJ), so as you can imagine neither of us were too keen to talk about math. Talk talk chat pay talk some more and suddenly it just came out and I showed her my scars on my inner arm where I'd cut and told her about it. Fucking hell I've never told anyone (IRL) about that in my life. Just sayin it could have been enough, but the great thing was that (must have been) by me opening up she was confident enough to confide in me as well, and she told me her big secret that she hid and hushed away, about dealing with anorexia leading onto bolemia and how she can't help but keep an exact tally of all the grams of fat, protein, sugar and carbs she eats, every fucking day. Now I'd never had imagined she would have been in that bad, and I really feel by the way she said it that it was as closey garded a secret as the one I'd shared with her, but by confiding in and talking with By now you've probably blown your 7000th in here, and THB I'd much rather that it's well used to help you than just to bust out symbolic-celebration. So dude, if you've got anything to share you can always ask/tell us TL'ers (I'd stick to the BW-ers tho). If you doubt it's efficacity go and take a fucking look at DoctorHelvitica's last blogs and threads, COMEPETELY full of support and hope. So sitck with it man and hit me up any time for some BW ): I h8 u. I think overall Chef should consider seeking help of any kind. Then again, I don't know if he talks to his friends about his problems or anything. | ||
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mucker
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Kitkatzy
United States213 Posts
On June 18 2011 09:25 n.DieJokes wrote: You're my favorite poster on tl, I find it hard to imagine you having any serious defects :/. The cat is indeed adorable but a single photo leaves me wanting more. Thankfully I have a source Sylvia Plath was my favorite poet. | ||
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bITt.mAN
Switzerland3693 Posts
IMO it's better if you can get away with not having to pay them, but the important part of the message is TALK TO SOMEONE. | ||
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Orome
Switzerland11984 Posts
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RaLakedaimon
United States1564 Posts
Are fun to play with. Understand why hiding places are awesome. Those are my favorite, that cat pic is super cute to. 5/5 Chef be da man! | ||
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cz
United States3249 Posts
On June 18 2011 09:08 travis wrote: I have never liked the thought of psychologists analyzing myself, because I am a pretty critical person, and I find it insulting to think that some other person will understand myself better than I do after I talk to them for a little bit. Maybe for other people, but not for me. If anything they are liable to get the wrong ideas about me, as I am pretty fucking abnormal. chef you're smart enough you'll be like whatever you want to be, and if you reflect on yourself you'll figure out whatever you want to figure out If you were so good at figuring yourself out and then fixing things your life would be a lot better than it is. All your post is rationalizations about why you shouldn't take the chance and see a psychologist and why you don't need it, and why it wouldn't help you. Psychologists are very, very useful. They provide the following: 1) Outside perspective. Everyone else you can talk to is biased. Your best friends want you to fail because it makes them feel better about their own failures, your girlfriend wants you to succeed at X but not Y because you might become too attractive and find a new girl. Psychologist is paid by you and you can end it any time - they want you to succeed, and if you don't feel that's how it is, change psychologists. 2) Confidentiality. Since your parents are offering (OP) to pay, make sure that the psychologist is maintaining the usual confidentiality with you and you alone. That means they share absolutely nothing with anyone else (e.g. your parents) unless you sign off on it. This is standard - if you can't get it, everything is worthless and you can't feel safe to share X because of possible repercussions when the psych tells your parents/whomever about it. If you do get this, and you will 99%, then you can share your deepest darkest things that would make people recoil at you without fear that people will actually recoil. Nobody else will know, and any psychologist who has worked more than a month has heard worse things than you can possibly tell them. You want to rape children? They probably talked to a guy who actually did, so say whatever you want. Nobody else in your life can provide this. 3) Theoretical/practical understanding of what's going on in your life and how to reach your goals. There are a lot of "just do X, then you'll be awesomer than ever before!!! also I luv cats lulz )))" Those are worthless platitudes from people that try to reduce the human condition and your life to some basic sentence: if that is possible, it's so generic and general that it isn't practical. Psychologists actually understand what is going on and to an extent why, and thus can provide ideas and information you've never thought of or realized before. This becomes more and more true the more you tell them - if they know all/most of your secrets, they can figure out a lot more what's going on that you are ignoring than your friend who only knows the "clean" version can tell you. Trust me, cognitive dissonance is very powerful: an outside perspective with most/full knowledge of what is going on in your mind can put a lot of things together that you didn't realize/ or are ignoring as a defense mechanism.Also you can do whatever you like with a psychologist. There is no "do X today" missions if you don't want them - you are the source of the paycheck, you decide what you want. You might find though that you don't want to do something like that because you are afraid of what will happen - it's too scary for you for some reason, and you're calling it stupid/inane/useless/childish/clinical as a defense mechanism to rationalize a reason to not face your fears. Bottom line is you get to say what you want and do what you want - no psychologist is going to pressure/force you/require you to do anything you don't want. If they do, find a new psychologist. | ||
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cz
United States3249 Posts
On June 18 2011 10:21 Orome wrote: The amount of utter ignorance in this thread is mindboggling. Seriously, just shut the fuck up if you don't have a clue about what psychiatrists/psychologists actually do. Maybe Chef could've used some good advice to clear his misconceptions on what doing psycho therapy would be like, what he got instead is horrible misinformation and utter fucking nonsense. thank you. I love the guy who never saw a psychologist in his life and "it was the best decision I ever made." How that makes sense logically I don't know - that he is rationalizing his own choices to somehow be optimal despite having no clue about the result of choosing the other option is a great show of the irrationality of most people's thought processes and decision making processes, not to mention hindsight justification. Amazing. | ||
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