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doubleupgradeobbies!
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
Australia1286 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-07-28 03:00:47
July 28 2009 02:58 GMT
#81
Personally I will give a short countdown (like 3 seconds) before unpausing if there is no reason.

If there is a reason i will wait 2-3 mins max before unpausing, or leaving the game myself if i feel i am behind.

If i need to pause during a game I will just gg and leave, unless i'm so far ahead that i just let the game go unpaused and hope I can still win when coming back.

I would have no issue against anyone that unpauses against me if I should ever pause the game.
It's not their obligation to wait for me.

If sc is more important than what's on the phone than you shouldn't answer the phone in the first place. If the phone is more important than it shouldn't be such a big deal to leave the game.
2 very simple choices.
They shouldn't be obliged to wait staring at a paused game when both of you could just move on at very little cost to either side.

edit: I give them some leeway out of courtesy, but I am fully aware that it is only that, I am not obliged even out of courtesy to do it.
MSL, 2003-2011, RIP. OSL, 2000-2012, RIP. Proleague, 2003-2012, RIP. And then there was none... Even good things must come to an end.
ghostWriter
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
United States3302 Posts
July 28 2009 02:59 GMT
#82
On July 28 2009 11:46 BanZu wrote:
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On July 28 2009 06:57 ghostWriter wrote:
On July 28 2009 05:45 BanZu wrote:
On July 28 2009 05:32 OneOther wrote:
Woah some of you guys are really stingy about pausing. Generally I wait ~3 minutes no matter what, although it helps a lot if he explains what he needs to do. Sometimes I have to pause if I have to answer an important phone call or use the restroom unexpectedly, so I like to return the favor.

Exactly. Apparently there are a lot more dicks on TL than I previously believed there to be.

Does it really hurt to wait a couple minutes? So obsessed about SC that you can't be KIND and POLITE enough to wait that time?

What the hell is wrong with this generation.


It's not about personality.
If you do a simple cost/benefit analyst it's easy to see why people unpause.
It's a ranked server and the guy pauses.
If I wait, what do I get? Nothing, besides a few minutes of wasted time.
What are the punishments for unpausing? Nothing, it's not against the rules.
If I unpause, what do I get? An strategic advantage because I can do something while he is off taking his phone call or whatever and a mental advantage because he gets mad that he has to continue playing the game instead of doing whatever it is.
If it's important, then he can just leave the game, there's nothing in it for me to wait and it can be advantageous to unpause.

That being said, I normally wait a minute or so, the only time I've unpaused immediately was in a game where I was about a minute away from winning and the guy pauses on me and didn't even give an explanation, then cursed me out before trying to pause again.

Because everything should benefit us.

If not, screw other people, who gives a shit, right?


That's what capitalism is all about ^^
Sullifam
MasterOfChaos
Profile Blog Joined April 2007
Germany2896 Posts
July 28 2009 08:52 GMT
#83
Leaving/unpausing the game loses you much more time than waiting 30 sec.
You have to search a new game which can take several minutes and you remove all meaning from the current game by not playing it to its end. And leavers are much worse that people who pause for a few seconds.
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kroko
Profile Blog Joined May 2004
Finland2136 Posts
July 28 2009 11:55 GMT
#84
Btw imho, mods could make intresthing poll about this...
I have Sick Timing and UnReal Macro
ghostWriter
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
United States3302 Posts
July 28 2009 19:58 GMT
#85
On July 28 2009 17:52 MasterOfChaos wrote:
Leaving/unpausing the game loses you much more time than waiting 30 sec.
You have to search a new game which can take several minutes and you remove all meaning from the current game by not playing it to its end. And leavers are much worse that people who pause for a few seconds.


I think that disconnecting is worse than leavers. Not only do you have to remake a game or whatever, you have to wait the 45 seconds which is actually game seconds, so it's closer to a minute if I'm not wrong. And I'm not sure if this is hacks or not, but sometimes you can't disconnect them so you have to force close starcraft and reopen it, which is a bit annoying.
Sullifam
MoeMoeKyun
Profile Joined January 2009
United States215 Posts
July 28 2009 20:59 GMT
#86
Haha I remember on east one of my friends paused to look for a terran dropshop :D
I lol in ur general direction
R3condite
Profile Joined August 2008
Korea (South)1541 Posts
July 29 2009 00:48 GMT
#87
On July 27 2009 22:25 jello_biafra wrote:
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On July 27 2009 22:22 Boblion wrote:
I hate when my phone rings when i'm playing.

Usually i don't answer.

Same

I hate when I absolutely HAVE to pause though and the fucker just waits two seconds and unpauses it, I come back to find all my shit dying -.-

i multi task... I mean i doubt it would put that much dent in your playing if you were hanging around at D level.

Plus if something like this freaks you out I suggest you never come out of your room. You might get a heart attack.
ggyo...
meegrean
Profile Joined May 2008
Thailand7699 Posts
September 15 2009 03:06 GMT
#88
It really depends on the player you are facing. Once you start a game, it's your responsibility to finish it without interruptions.

I'm a nice guy though, so I let people pause for up to a minute or so as long as they give a good reason (to close downloads or whatever).
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ejac
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
United States1195 Posts
September 15 2009 08:30 GMT
#89
I've never paused. I'm paused on once maybe every 30 games and I have only unpaused once because the guy was taking more than 7 minutes, I started counting. yeah...
esq>n
jello_biafra
Profile Blog Joined September 2004
United Kingdom6641 Posts
September 15 2009 10:20 GMT
#90
On July 29 2009 09:48 R3condite wrote:
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On July 27 2009 22:25 jello_biafra wrote:
On July 27 2009 22:22 Boblion wrote:
I hate when my phone rings when i'm playing.

Usually i don't answer.

Same

I hate when I absolutely HAVE to pause though and the fucker just waits two seconds and unpauses it, I come back to find all my shit dying -.-

i multi task... I mean i doubt it would put that much dent in your playing if you were hanging around at D level.

Plus if something like this freaks you out I suggest you never come out of your room. You might get a heart attack.

I meant when I have to leave the room...

I don't hang around at D level for long...

And it doesn't freak me out, it pisses me off, there's a difference.
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Liquid`Drone
Profile Joined September 2002
Norway28792 Posts
September 15 2009 10:47 GMT
#91
god I hate people who unpause instantly/semi instantly
I'll wait 5 minutes if they dont give a reason, 10 or so if they ask if I can wait.

I seriously think being unwilling to wait at least a couple minutes is a huge character flaw and I would have problems being friends with anyone who does that.
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Tropics
Profile Joined August 2007
United Kingdom1132 Posts
September 15 2009 10:50 GMT
#92
i wait 20 seconds so if what they're doing requires them to leave the room they have no idea whats going on, then i unpause.

:D
jello_biafra
Profile Blog Joined September 2004
United Kingdom6641 Posts
September 15 2009 10:59 GMT
#93
On September 15 2009 19:50 Tropics wrote:
i wait 20 seconds so if what they're doing requires them to leave the room they have no idea whats going on, then i unpause.

:D

You're despicable.
The road to hell is paved with good intentions | aka Probert[PaiN] @ iccup / godlikeparagon @ twitch | my BW stream: http://www.teamliquid.net/video/streams/jello_biafra
BookTwo
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
1985 Posts
September 15 2009 11:05 GMT
#94
its a risk you have to take. the other person is not bound to stay paused, and its more an ethical thing than abiding by any rules.

unfortunately, some people are bm
Pengu1n
Profile Blog Joined October 2004
United States552 Posts
September 15 2009 14:31 GMT
#95
Eh usually unless i'm playing with a friend i will unpause after a few seconds just because its extremely annoying. Don't answer the phone during a game imo.
Salv
Profile Blog Joined December 2007
Canada3083 Posts
September 15 2009 15:13 GMT
#96
I generally do what do what others in this thread have stated, I will wait a couple minutes if a reason was given, but I won't wait long if it's simply a pause with no explanation; maybe twenty seconds. At the same time, I would like to un-pause after twenty or thirty seconds. I have no problem if you want to pick up the phone, see who it is and call them back, for that should take no longer then a half-minute. However if you begin to have a conversation, even a short one, I would un-pause. Unfortunately there is no way to know this, so I would un-pause after thirty seconds. I don't do this however because it has happened before where my opponent will disconnect if I un-pause on him.
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