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On July 27 2009 23:14 7mk wrote:Show nested quote +On July 27 2009 22:30 konadora wrote:
I bet they were Koreans
Americans (or at least, English speaking people) always wait when I say 'hang on, phone' or something Yeah I think that's generally true. Most frustrating game ever , a ZvP, I said something like pp cause I had to take a piss (I drink a lot of water^^) he just unpauses right away, he attacks me with zealots I defend with mutas -> kill his main and his natural with muta hydra while he keeps spamming korean stuff which I can't read but it surely wasnt very friendly, he only has his hidden expansion (defended by cannons and too many HT to break with just hydras) left so I'm waiting for him to gg so I can finally take a fucking piss. But I suck so bad that eventually after he killed ashit ton of drones with HT drop and a base with DT drop I still somehow miraculously manage to lose that game, while he keeps insulting me and calling me a chobo - turns out the guy was A- the season before(my ZvP is D+ and it was a D lvl game)... arg hm OK I kinda drifted away from the topic. There can always be something annoying which you didnt expect when you play sc so I always wait as long as the guy says something. If he doesn't I'll do it like chill does and unpause after a while
Your fault. How are you unable to wait a few minutes to take a piss?
There's no rule against pausing and if you pause the game and it gets unpaused, you just have to deal with it. If it's an emergency, just leave the game.
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On July 27 2009 22:15 Revabug wrote:
at this point the phone rings, I pause and answer it
At this point, you've joined a competitive starcraft game and you choose to answer your phone and delay the game/waste the other player's time instead of finishing your game and calling later when you can actually talk.
I let people pause if they tell me its parents or a spouse, but anything else and I'll unpause. Even that is a courtesy. If somebody's willing to let you pause, go for it. But don't bitch when someone else doesn't want you wasting their time.
And you would seriously sit on the phone for 30+ seconds? Just say "I'm in the restroom I'll call you back in like 5 minutes" and call them when the game is done.
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you shouldn't start the game if you're ever going to need to pause. If it's so important that it can't wait, then who cares about the game?
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I was having a nice chat with this random bloke on iccup. I paused the game so I can go take a piss and grab another bottle of beer haha
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On July 28 2009 04:41 Divinek wrote:
you shouldn't start the game if you're ever going to need to pause. If it's so important that it can't wait, then who cares about the game?
This.
A few times i have been playing and got called by someone or whatever and i dont pause, just leave the game, is not the other guys fault that you have to do something.
Still, i like to be GM so i never unpause, unless the guy makes me wait like 15 minutes, then fuck him, time to win xD.
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On July 27 2009 22:22 Shikyo wrote:Show nested quote +On July 27 2009 22:15 Revabug wrote:
It's pretty ludicrous how people at D (!) level are so content on snatching points to the point they'll unpause me 3 times in a row.
Basically I was playing a ZvP Destination and opening with a 3 hatch spire -> lurker build and got to 5 bases relatively easy.. at this point the phone rings, I pause and answer it, 3 seconds later he's unpaused and A-moved his dragoon/templar army in lurkers.. I pause, and he does it again... this time I don't notice until like 30 seconds later where my army's wiped out and he's on his to my 4th gas.. I pause once again (lol) and suprise.. he unpauses.
I continue playing but not with any confidence, with my resources now at 2k/2k.. and eventually I lose =(
I don't know what I'm expecting with this blog, I'm just kinda surprised that people go so far as to move up a rank (this win brought him to C-), be it hacking (hacking on iCCup lol wtf) or just simply unpausing. It's pretty irritating when people pause, especially if they don't say what's going on. I'm there to play, not to watch a paused screen. Take care of your business in between games. Mute your phone. I don't unpause right away, but I'll countdown from 5 to 0 really quickly and then unpause. If you can't play all the way through, don't bother starting the game. Think about others, too.
Look dude, we all have those moments where SC has to wait.
Have some fricking sympathy. Just wait, you'll be in that exact situation at one point sooner or later and there'll be nothing you can do about it except pause the game.
You'll see.
On July 28 2009 04:41 Divinek wrote:
you shouldn't start the game if you're ever going to need to pause. If it's so important that it can't wait, then who cares about the game?
Yea, because we can see the future and tell that we'll have something important in the middle of the game. Then we won't bother playing the game and everyone is happy.
Right. Think a little bit.
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Woah some of you guys are really stingy about pausing. Generally I wait ~3 minutes no matter what, although it helps a lot if he explains what he needs to do. Sometimes I have to pause if I have to answer an important phone call or use the restroom unexpectedly, so I like to return the favor.
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On July 28 2009 05:32 OneOther wrote:
Woah some of you guys are really stingy about pausing. Generally I wait ~3 minutes no matter what, although it helps a lot if he explains what he needs to do. Sometimes I have to pause if I have to answer an important phone call or use the restroom unexpectedly, so I like to return the favor.
Exactly. Apparently there are a lot more dicks on TL than I previously believed there to be.
Does it really hurt to wait a couple minutes? So obsessed about SC that you can't be KIND and POLITE enough to wait that time?
What the hell is wrong with this generation.
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U guys still have phones with wires ? Or cant play with head tilted to left/right shoulder with cellphone between ?
I always leave the game if opponent pauses on the first minutes. I also never unpaused any game, eventho it pisses me off that ppl cant speak on phone / play the sametime...
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On July 28 2009 05:45 BanZu wrote:Show nested quote +On July 28 2009 05:32 OneOther wrote:
Woah some of you guys are really stingy about pausing. Generally I wait ~3 minutes no matter what, although it helps a lot if he explains what he needs to do. Sometimes I have to pause if I have to answer an important phone call or use the restroom unexpectedly, so I like to return the favor. Exactly. Apparently there are a lot more dicks on TL than I previously believed there to be. Does it really hurt to wait a couple minutes? So obsessed about SC that you can't be KIND and POLITE enough to wait that time? What the hell is wrong with this generation.
It's not about personality.
If you do a simple cost/benefit analyst it's easy to see why people unpause.
It's a ranked server and the guy pauses.
If I wait, what do I get? Nothing, besides a few minutes of wasted time.
What are the punishments for unpausing? Nothing, it's not against the rules.
If I unpause, what do I get? An strategic advantage because I can do something while he is off taking his phone call or whatever and a mental advantage because he gets mad that he has to continue playing the game instead of doing whatever it is.
If it's important, then he can just leave the game, there's nothing in it for me to wait and it can be advantageous to unpause.
That being said, I normally wait a minute or so, the only time I've unpaused immediately was in a game where I was about a minute away from winning and the guy pauses on me and didn't even give an explanation, then cursed me out before trying to pause again.
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Some of these responses are so fucking retarded I almost thought I was on GosuGamers...
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On July 28 2009 05:25 BanZu wrote:Show nested quote +On July 27 2009 22:22 Shikyo wrote:On July 27 2009 22:15 Revabug wrote:
It's pretty ludicrous how people at D (!) level are so content on snatching points to the point they'll unpause me 3 times in a row.
Basically I was playing a ZvP Destination and opening with a 3 hatch spire -> lurker build and got to 5 bases relatively easy.. at this point the phone rings, I pause and answer it, 3 seconds later he's unpaused and A-moved his dragoon/templar army in lurkers.. I pause, and he does it again... this time I don't notice until like 30 seconds later where my army's wiped out and he's on his to my 4th gas.. I pause once again (lol) and suprise.. he unpauses.
I continue playing but not with any confidence, with my resources now at 2k/2k.. and eventually I lose =(
I don't know what I'm expecting with this blog, I'm just kinda surprised that people go so far as to move up a rank (this win brought him to C-), be it hacking (hacking on iCCup lol wtf) or just simply unpausing. It's pretty irritating when people pause, especially if they don't say what's going on. I'm there to play, not to watch a paused screen. Take care of your business in between games. Mute your phone. I don't unpause right away, but I'll countdown from 5 to 0 really quickly and then unpause. If you can't play all the way through, don't bother starting the game. Think about others, too. Look dude, we all have those moments where SC has to wait. Have some fricking sympathy. Just wait, you'll be in that exact situation at one point sooner or later and there'll be nothing you can do about it except pause the game. You'll see. Show nested quote +On July 28 2009 04:41 Divinek wrote:
you shouldn't start the game if you're ever going to need to pause. If it's so important that it can't wait, then who cares about the game? Yea, because we can see the future and tell that we'll have something important in the middle of the game. Then we won't bother playing the game and everyone is happy. Right. Think a little bit.
Instead of me thinking how about you read. I covered the second case where someone does call. If it's that important then leave the game, if starcraft is more important to you than your life then just disconnect the phone?
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"Quick Divinek, you're mom fell and needs your help now!"
- "But I'm in a SC:BW game"
"Pause it..."
"Nah thats okay, SC > RL, and RL can wait."
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get an answering machine :<
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On July 28 2009 06:57 ghostWriter wrote:Show nested quote +On July 28 2009 05:45 BanZu wrote:On July 28 2009 05:32 OneOther wrote:
Woah some of you guys are really stingy about pausing. Generally I wait ~3 minutes no matter what, although it helps a lot if he explains what he needs to do. Sometimes I have to pause if I have to answer an important phone call or use the restroom unexpectedly, so I like to return the favor. Exactly. Apparently there are a lot more dicks on TL than I previously believed there to be. Does it really hurt to wait a couple minutes? So obsessed about SC that you can't be KIND and POLITE enough to wait that time? What the hell is wrong with this generation. It's not about personality. If you do a simple cost/benefit analyst it's easy to see why people unpause. It's a ranked server and the guy pauses. If I wait, what do I get? Nothing, besides a few minutes of wasted time. What are the punishments for unpausing? Nothing, it's not against the rules. If I unpause, what do I get? An strategic advantage because I can do something while he is off taking his phone call or whatever and a mental advantage because he gets mad that he has to continue playing the game instead of doing whatever it is. If it's important, then he can just leave the game, there's nothing in it for me to wait and it can be advantageous to unpause. That being said, I normally wait a minute or so, the only time I've unpaused immediately was in a game where I was about a minute away from winning and the guy pauses on me and didn't even give an explanation, then cursed me out before trying to pause again.
haha it should not come down to a benefit/cost analysis. to me it's simply just not being a dick and waiting a reasonable length of time for your opponent.
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On July 28 2009 07:13 Divinek wrote:Show nested quote +On July 28 2009 05:25 BanZu wrote:On July 27 2009 22:22 Shikyo wrote:On July 27 2009 22:15 Revabug wrote:
It's pretty ludicrous how people at D (!) level are so content on snatching points to the point they'll unpause me 3 times in a row.
Basically I was playing a ZvP Destination and opening with a 3 hatch spire -> lurker build and got to 5 bases relatively easy.. at this point the phone rings, I pause and answer it, 3 seconds later he's unpaused and A-moved his dragoon/templar army in lurkers.. I pause, and he does it again... this time I don't notice until like 30 seconds later where my army's wiped out and he's on his to my 4th gas.. I pause once again (lol) and suprise.. he unpauses.
I continue playing but not with any confidence, with my resources now at 2k/2k.. and eventually I lose =(
I don't know what I'm expecting with this blog, I'm just kinda surprised that people go so far as to move up a rank (this win brought him to C-), be it hacking (hacking on iCCup lol wtf) or just simply unpausing. It's pretty irritating when people pause, especially if they don't say what's going on. I'm there to play, not to watch a paused screen. Take care of your business in between games. Mute your phone. I don't unpause right away, but I'll countdown from 5 to 0 really quickly and then unpause. If you can't play all the way through, don't bother starting the game. Think about others, too. Look dude, we all have those moments where SC has to wait. Have some fricking sympathy. Just wait, you'll be in that exact situation at one point sooner or later and there'll be nothing you can do about it except pause the game. You'll see. On July 28 2009 04:41 Divinek wrote:
you shouldn't start the game if you're ever going to need to pause. If it's so important that it can't wait, then who cares about the game? Yea, because we can see the future and tell that we'll have something important in the middle of the game. Then we won't bother playing the game and everyone is happy. Right. Think a little bit. Instead of me thinking how about you read. I covered the second case where someone does call. If it's that important then leave the game, if starcraft is more important to you than your life then just disconnect the phone?
Divinek pretty much summed up what I wanted to say. It's at the opponent's discretion that you are able to pause. There is no right to pause though many people will have the time and courtesy to pause for 30 seconds to a few minutes.
You make a judgement call. If those ladder points are so important, then keep playing. Otherwise accept that you might lose the game.
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I'll wait a couple minutes if he says "just a sec", but I've waited 5 minutes before, asked what is up, and received no answers. After that I just left myself. I don't care about points enough to wait for someone to talk on the phone.
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On July 28 2009 06:57 ghostWriter wrote:Show nested quote +On July 28 2009 05:45 BanZu wrote:On July 28 2009 05:32 OneOther wrote:
Woah some of you guys are really stingy about pausing. Generally I wait ~3 minutes no matter what, although it helps a lot if he explains what he needs to do. Sometimes I have to pause if I have to answer an important phone call or use the restroom unexpectedly, so I like to return the favor. Exactly. Apparently there are a lot more dicks on TL than I previously believed there to be. Does it really hurt to wait a couple minutes? So obsessed about SC that you can't be KIND and POLITE enough to wait that time? What the hell is wrong with this generation. It's not about personality. If you do a simple cost/benefit analyst it's easy to see why people unpause. It's a ranked server and the guy pauses. If I wait, what do I get? Nothing, besides a few minutes of wasted time. What are the punishments for unpausing? Nothing, it's not against the rules. If I unpause, what do I get? An strategic advantage because I can do something while he is off taking his phone call or whatever and a mental advantage because he gets mad that he has to continue playing the game instead of doing whatever it is. If it's important, then he can just leave the game, there's nothing in it for me to wait and it can be advantageous to unpause. That being said, I normally wait a minute or so, the only time I've unpaused immediately was in a game where I was about a minute away from winning and the guy pauses on me and didn't even give an explanation, then cursed me out before trying to pause again.
Because everything should benefit us.
If not, screw other people, who gives a shit, right?
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