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*blog is going to be random*
Looking at Stealthblue's blog about the Universe got me thinking about aliens. Chances that there is life somewhere else in the universe? Pretty high I think.
I was thinking that our existence is really similar to Starcraft. Meaning that the fact that we are here seems cosmically like a fluke accident. This planet had exactly the right chemical composition, distance from the sun, and other sequence of events that led to a chain reaction of other events that eventually created human beings. Blizzard admittedly did not plan for Starcraft to evolve in the way that it did, which is why in my mind Starcraft 2 is such an interesting project. Here Blizzard is trying to manually recreate something that essentially happened by accident. It's like trying to create a human being in a lab (not cloning), it seems almost impossible; and most likely it will be. Will Starcraft 2 be a good game? Yes. Will it be as great a success as Starcraft? Probably not.
Anyways back to aliens. Another thing I was thinking about is this: why is it that science fiction and stuff only considers the possibility of aliens being much more advanced than us? It seems like nobody ever really considers the possibility that we may encounter some aliens that are backwards dumb brutes, if we can ever find any at all.
Here's something that really excites me; with all the recent investigations about the moons of Saturn and Jupiter (Triton, Europa, and a few others I can't remember off the top of my head) that have surfaces of ice... really pumped about this! I was watching something on Discovery the other day about another of Saturn's moons that they actually have found geysers on (forgot the name). Scientists believe strongly that on these various moons there is a high probability that the ingredients for life exist. If there is life it will probably just be a bunch of bacteria/single celled organisms, but it's still really awesome to think about. What's even better is that we will very likely solve these mysteries during my lifetime.
The universe is so vast though that it seems as if the possibility of discovering another intelligent (in terms of human intelligence) life form is slim to none. Just because the distance to another galaxy or whatever is astronomically vast and it would take lifetimes to even get anywhere in the universe. That kinda makes me sad. We'll basically have to civilization/planet hop our way around the universe unless we can invent something like hyperspeed (basically impossible if my knowledge is correct because it is not possible to travel at the speed of light), or actually prove the existence of worm holes and learn how to manipulate them to travel great distances in the blink of an eye.
Anyways, point is... thinking about aliens is pretty intense.
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If they can find even microbial life within our solar system somewhere else that increases the chance of life in the universe exponentially. That is why it is so important.
Actually, there was a thread a few weeks ago about this very topic. Lots of theories about aliens by top thinkers. Most of them agree that if there is another intelligent life out there they would more likely be around our technology or slightly greater because of the medical advances (but also with those come war tech advances). So natural threats are removed to increase their survival but at the same time they create a new threat, which is themselves.
edit- http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=96631¤tpage=8
Towards the end there are a few wiki links with a shit load of theories and they are some crazy levels.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Great_Filter
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fermi_paradox
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Yeah, I have to agree with you on the possibility of aliens that aren't more advanced than us. I personally believe it's far more likely that aliens would be more like animals than actual "intelligent life".
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I'm just looking forward to discovering cells on other planets because it completely disproves religion. Though religious people probably wont accept it, guess they just left that little tidbit out of the bible to 'test us'.
But really, while I obviously don't know for certain, it is almost impossible that out of the countless planets in existence that there isn't at least one with single or even mutli-cell organisms on it.
The universe is mind blowing man, coolest thing ever IMO.
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On July 25 2009 09:53 HuskyTheHusky wrote:
I'm just looking forward to discovering cells on other planets because it completely disproves religion. Though religious people probably wont accept it, guess they just left that little tidbit out of the bible to 'test us'.
But really, while I obviously don't know for certain, it is almost impossible that out of the countless planets in existence that there isn't at least one with single or even mutli-cell organisms on it.
The universe is mind blowing man, coolest thing ever IMO.
hell, you don't even need a planet or a moon. Life can exist in the craziest of circumstances. Just look at those bacteria that live deep in the earth that can withstand extreme, heat, cold, and pressure. I forget the name of them , but they were also recently discovered to be able to store data on them chemically. Just think of the application of such things, these are the only hope to preserve history for prolonged times. All current technology decomposes pretty fast when not taken care of, it's kind of sad to think that the best way to keep records STILL is to carve it into some rocks.
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On July 25 2009 09:53 HuskyTheHusky wrote:
I'm just looking forward to discovering cells on other planets because it completely disproves religion. Though religious people probably wont accept it, guess they just left that little tidbit out of the bible to 'test us'.
But really, while I obviously don't know for certain, it is almost impossible that out of the countless planets in existence that there isn't at least one with single or even mutli-cell organisms on it.
The universe is mind blowing man, coolest thing ever IMO.
how does that disprove religion at all
do you even know what the word "religion" means.
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5 posts into a blog about aliens and this will transform into a religion blog >_< amazing
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that space documentary on discovery channel said that there should be millions of advanced civilisations in our galaxy alone
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On July 25 2009 10:07 {88}iNcontroL wrote:
5 posts into a blog about aliens and this will transform into a religion blog >_< amazing
I hope not... And I've always thought about this. It seems so unnerving, yet interesting at the same time. Nearly anything related to Astrology or Cosmology gives a similiar effect...
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On July 25 2009 10:10 iamtt1 wrote:
that space documentary on discovery channel said that there should be millions of advanced civilisations in our galaxy alone
Which one is this? I must see!
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On July 25 2009 10:10 iamtt1 wrote:
that space documentary on discovery channel said that there should be millions of advanced civilisations in our galaxy alone
If there should be, but there aren't. Does that mean God exists?
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On July 25 2009 10:07 {88}iNcontroL wrote:
5 posts into a blog about aliens and this will transform into a religion blog >_< amazing
I have no desire to talk about religion here. I am just trying to remind people to actually understand the meanings of the words they use.
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is it ok for me to ban the people who talk about religion from my blog ? =P (not you travis)
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I think the reason aliens are usually more advanced is that people expect them to find us since we are currently not advanced to look very far.
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On July 25 2009 10:10 iamtt1 wrote:
that space documentary on discovery channel said that there should be millions of advanced civilisations in our galaxy alone
Guess the documentary was based onthe Drake equation. If you search for that and discovery on youtube, you'd probably stumble onto that eventually.
Anyhow, more on topic, I dunno. Life is obviously rare if you judge from our lack of discovering anything outside our own planet. At least life as we know it - and if there's life unlike the life that we know, we need to figure out a way to measure it before we can discover it. If you also add how easy things go extinct if you use our own planet as an example, the chances of discovering surviving life forms is getting even slimmer.
Odds of extreme fluke multiplied by odds of being discovered multiplied by odds of not being dead leaves us with a dissapearingly tiny number.
Still though, I have no doubt there's some life out there. Not neccessarily intelligent or in any way alike what we're familiar with, but with so many stars, so many planets, such a vast expanse of area and such a huge ammount of time, it'd be silly to believe we'd be the one exclusive exeption.
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the documentary is called Journey to the Edge of the Universe, theyve been reshowing it for the past week on discovery
i highly recommended it
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There are potentially civilizations that formed millions or even billions of years before ours that could have incomprehensively advanced technology, but chances are that they are so distant that not even they could travel far enough to reach earth or any other inhabited planet.
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i just made a blog with the documentary in it
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On July 25 2009 09:07 Xeris wrote:I was thinking that our existence is really similar to Starcraft. Meaning that the fact that we are here seems cosmically like a fluke accident. This planet had exactly the right chemical composition, distance from the sun, and other sequence of events that led to a chain reaction of other events that eventually created human beings. Blizzard admittedly did not plan for Starcraft to evolve in the way that it did, which is why in my mind Starcraft 2 is such an interesting project. Here Blizzard is trying to manually recreate something that essentially happened by accident. It's like trying to create a human being in a lab (not cloning), it seems almost impossible; and most likely it will be. Will Starcraft 2 be a good game? Yes. Will it be as great a success as Starcraft? Probably not.
I liked this metaphor about SC otherwise meh.
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On July 25 2009 10:53 iamtt1 wrote:
the documentary is called Journey to the Edge of the Universe, theyve been reshowing it for the past week on discovery
i highly recommended it
Yeah, I happened to watch a bit of it and it was extremely interesting and it made me realize how insignificant we our compared to the rest of the universe.
Also, in that documentary it said that the main reason why life might not exist is the fact that there has to be so much luck involved. An asteroid has to hit a planet that is the perfect distance from a sun, eventually creating life. Then the life form has to evolve to a complex being without the planet being hit by another asteroid; which would then destroy all life on that planet.
So basically how that documentary summed it up is we are trying to find a needle in a cosmic haystack lol.
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Oh I was talking about something else... I haven't seen that I'll check it out O_O!
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