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Ok, I figure TL is a good place to settle this debate I was having with 2 friends of mine. We were walking around an outside mall area or whatever and my friend points out some girl and is like "shes pretty hot" etc etc. So I take a look and I notice that she looks pretty young; I guessed about 16-17 (we're 21), and he said 18-19.
Anyways, then we started debating about at what age it is acceptable/unacceptable to date girls. My friend said that it's fair game basically as long as the girl looks good, and I said that regardless of her looks, if she's under 18-19 I wouldn't even think about it. So we argued about that for about 45 minutes....
So Teamliquid, help settle this debate. What's the +/- age that is acceptable to either actually date, or think about dating a girl? (Assuming you're 21, but maybe just a general ratio).
In my opinion, anything from 18-25 is acceptable. PS, my other friend said something about some kinda formula like, divide your age by 2, and add 7 to get the youngest person you could be with...
Anyways, discuss.
 
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Katowice25012 Posts
Your friend has severe emotional deficiencies if a 16 year old girl can actually hold his attention in any kind of serious conversation, at 21.
Going out with once maybe but there is zero possibility a normal 21 year old man can string together any kind of relationship with someone under 18.
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On July 21 2009 14:53 heyoka wrote:
Your friend has severe emotional deficiencies if a 16 year old girl can actually hold his attention in any kind of serious conversation, at 21.
Going out with once maybe but there is zero possibility a normal 21 year old man can string together any kind of relationship with someone under 18.
Wow. So quick to write it off. You'd be surprised at what you can find in common with younger women. I've dated both up (2 years) and down (2 years) and had interesting relationships with both. I don't think there's a definite "limit" or "age" for things like this. If it's right, it's right.
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You're of drinking age... you will quickly find dating someone under that will go nowhere. Also, your friend may be a pedo.
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It's OK to date some one below 18 just don't have sex with her until the right time..
But really, girls that are 16 to 20 years old seems to be too much adventurous to have a serious relationship. (by means of serious relationship, there's still a big chance of breaking up after 1 to 2 years)
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iNcontroL
USA29055 Posts
at 21 the youngest I'd go is 18. Not necessarily because of the years but because of where that puts them in the typical American educational system which aids big time in their maturity / experiences. By then they are either a frosh in college or graduated/ing from HS and are moving on to adult life.
I like pretty girls like the next guy but girls that are immature (as we can stereotype MOST HS aged girls) are a huge waste of time.. no matter how pretty.
16 is really young btw.. I can understand an argument for 17. I know that seems really nit-picky but the ages 16-21 are so fucking incredibly different each year has a substantial leap typically.
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If there is grass on the field play ball?
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very mature 17 year old up.
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On July 21 2009 15:01 BuGzlToOnl wrote:
If there is grass on the field play ball?
Oh god the PUNS! ^_^
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On a serious note thou it is in my humblest of opinions that age has absolutely nothing to do in a relationship. This kind of thing should be judged on "emotional" maturity. I'm 21 myself and wouldn't see a problem being with a 16 year old.
Yes the whole out of high school thing is a big deal in regards to learning about the world rather than living under the illusion that the only thing that matters in your hair, who your dating, and your social status. But seriously age is just a number.
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On July 21 2009 14:53 heyoka wrote:
Your friend has severe emotional deficiencies if a 16 year old girl can actually hold his attention in any kind of serious conversation, at 21.
Going out with once maybe but there is zero possibility a normal 21 year old man can string together any kind of relationship with someone under 18.
Lol are you kidding? There are tons of immature and stupid 21 year olds and tons of mature and intelligent 16 year olds. Your generalization is pretty wrong really... Besides, if she's hot who cares if she makes good conversation lol.
I mean a 21 year old going out with a 17 year old isn't even that taboo really.
As for Xeris' question for a 21 year old guy. I'd say it depends on the individual girl, or at least it would be that way in a perfect world. I think 17 and over would be ok, any girl younger might be a bit odd but hey, as long as you don't have sex I guess it's not illegal.
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On July 21 2009 15:07 Jonoman92 wrote:Show nested quote +On July 21 2009 14:53 heyoka wrote:
Your friend has severe emotional deficiencies if a 16 year old girl can actually hold his attention in any kind of serious conversation, at 21.
Going out with once maybe but there is zero possibility a normal 21 year old man can string together any kind of relationship with someone under 18. Lol are you kidding? There are tons of immature and stupid 21 year olds and tons of mature and intelligent 16 year olds. Your generalization is pretty wrong really... Besides, if she's hot who cares if she makes good conversation lol. I mean a 21 year old going out with a 17 year old isn't even that taboo really. As for Xeris' question for a 21 year old guy. I'd say it depends on the individual girl, or at least it would be that way in a perfect world. I think 17 and over would be ok, any girl younger might be a bit odd but hey, as long as you don't have sex I guess it's not illegal.
Hey, there's even 22 to 28 year old people that are immature. Now that's really a serious matter. 
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Im 22 and I wouldnt date someone under the age of 19. 19 is even pushing it, so most likely 20 and up, unless the girl was really special.
Ive had this debate with friends before too and some of my friends have the same position as your friends. Its actually kind of creepy.
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iNcontroL
USA29055 Posts
I think it's pretty bad when a 21 year old guy is gawking at a 16 year old girl. That is really young
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Osaka27148 Posts
How come everybody is assuming that the man is older?
You and your friends are looking in the wrong direction sir. Look up, and discover the joys of older women.
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Korea (South)11578 Posts
On July 21 2009 15:01 BuGzlToOnl wrote:
If there is grass on the field play ball?
and if there's not, turn her over and play in the mud.
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it depends on the age. I mean if were talking teens, anything more than a year difference is a little creepy/pathetic, though obvious massive differences in age are common in teens dating. Once you hit 20's, dating an 18 year old is pathetic, I'd think. Early twenties things start to loosen up, 19-23 is reasonable, but after that starts to push it. And yet further, a 23 year old dating a 29 year old or something? Again pushing the limits. Yet when ya hit the 30's, I wouldn't say 39 dating a 30 year old is at all very weird. I guess basically, age is loosely used to judge someones maturity, for teens a year is a huge point of development so a signficant difference in that shows a signficant difference in maturity and experiences, or at least the expectations for that. Ya go down the line, what I think is acceptable is based off that. Early twenties you are all entering the workforce/in college, same general experiences and presumed maturity, late 20's is of course drastically different, 30's and beyond your a full on adult and I dont really give a crap after that. Though there are still some weird differences like 50 to 34 or something...
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The number doesn't matter.
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needs to at least be done with elementary school
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A good friend of mine is 23 and he married somebody who's 34. There relationship is going great it's been nearly 2 years now.
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I don't really mind older people to an extent (obviously there's a limit), and I don't really like younger people for all the the above stated reasons 
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iNcontroL
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thread ended. We have proof that in at least 1 case it can be done.
This one time I heard a king married a girl of 13 and they ended up living happily and having kids. Ezpz
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my grandma got married to my grandpa when she was 13. arranged marriage ftw.
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Lol I wouldn't date a 16 year old girl and I'm only 19, as opposed to 21.
16 year olds are just so god damn young. Why date HS girls when you can date college girls instead?
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Well physically i suppose one could date a girl around 16-17 and be on non-pedophilic terms, but really most of them are complete idiots until their early 20's. People in their 30's complain about how irrational and stupid women are, and they are only worse when their younger.
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On July 21 2009 14:53 heyoka wrote:
Your friend has severe emotional deficiencies if a 16 year old girl can actually hold his attention in any kind of serious conversation, at 21.
Going out with once maybe but there is zero possibility a normal 21 year old man can string together any kind of relationship with someone under 18.
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On July 21 2009 15:00 {88}iNcontroL wrote:
at 21 the youngest I'd go is 18. Not necessarily because of the years but because of where that puts them in the typical American educational system which aids big time in their maturity / experiences. By then they are either a frosh in college or graduated/ing from HS and are moving on to adult life.
I like pretty girls like the next guy but girls that are immature (as we can stereotype MOST HS aged girls) are a huge waste of time.. no matter how pretty.
16 is really young btw.. I can understand an argument for 17. I know that seems really nit-picky but the ages 16-21 are so fucking incredibly different each year has a substantial leap typically.
Depends on your objective(s). "Dating" doesn't imply seeking a meaningful long term relationship. Hot dumb girls are great for short fun relationships 
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Anything is fine but imo any younger than 30 is a waste of time
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2 years up 2 years down
when youre 19-28
after that its fair game!!!
well...18 and up (when 29)
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It's not so much age, but the actual level of maturity that matters.
For me, it's annoying listening to any girl under 19 talk nowadays (I'm 21)... -____-.
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iono if you don't know the girl then you have to date her before you can make these kinda judgements anyway
i just asked out a 16 year old (im mid 20s), the only reason was because we seem to like each other and might like to get to know each other better. there's nothing sinister about it, just use your brain and if something feels awkward then be aware of it
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Just don't date someone much younger than yourself.
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Half your age + 7 is the rule I always heard and it makes pretty good sense.
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On July 21 2009 17:36 PH wrote:
It's not so much age, but the actual level of maturity that matters.
For me, it's annoying listening to any girl under 19 talk nowadays (I'm 21)... -____-.
isnt it weird when u find out your friends or friend hangs out with some 18 or even 17 year old haha makes you go wtf? or is it just me
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Double digit gotta hit it?
I dunno, the /2 + 7 seems like a good rule. It starts to get a bit odd after 40-50 or so.
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I had the same doubt some time ago. I found myself unable to set the answer so I decided that as long as the society allows me legally and morally to do so its ok, 18 years old minimum to me.
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I think dating a 16 years old girl with 21 is not too bad. Its just 5 years. Same as 25 and 30... so
Not too big of a deal-_-
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the younger the better imo
EDIT: not pedo young =/ i mean around 17 up? considering your 21 o.o
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I prefer the same age, but I guess for me, one age less would be the limit (since I am 19.)
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On July 21 2009 15:13 Manifesto7 wrote:
How come everybody is assuming that the man is older?
You and your friends are looking in the wrong direction sir. Look up, and discover the joys of older women.
Shakespeare disagrees
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I think the question to ask yourself if you're a 21 year old hitting on a 16 year old is, "Can I put up with all the grief my friends are going to give me?" If you think you can't handle that, not the right girl.
My rule of thumb for the past few years (I'm 23 now, one year out of uni) has been "Could I have gone to college with her?"
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Edit... i'll add my bit
So what happens when a younger person is hitting on you?
lets say 21 yr is getting hit on by a 16 yr.
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On July 21 2009 15:01 BuGzlToOnl wrote:
If there is grass on the field play ball?
If there's fluff on the muff, she's old enough...
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All that matters is that you like the girl and have something in common to talk about (which probably dramatically reduces the possible age difference).
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konadora
Singapore66160 Posts
loli
+ Show Spoiler +Jokes aside, I'd say 0-5 years age difference is probably the maximum for me. Ideal would be 1~2 years younger though.
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if you want an actual relationship its all about what you want out of it. I'm 20 and still have never dated anyone younger than me.
If its just to fuck around, whatever just keep it legal.
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When you're talking about something like "too young" in terms of sex you must realize that that only applies to mental age (talking post-puberty ofc, please put those torches out). There are plenty mature 15 year olds and there are many, many more immature 30 year olds. Personally I get more aroused by girls in the ages 16-18, and I imagine most guys do. Talking in terms of fruit, I'd say its because that's the age when they're perfectly ripe, not sour and not yet soggy. You think The Rite of Spring is about 20 year olds? Get ooout of heeere!
But being 25 years old myself, I don't come on to girls under the age of 20 because I don't want spit in my new haircut. I also don't think we'd have alot in common when the time came for pillow talk.
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I agree with your friend. Everyone is fair game, whether they're 12 or 49, whether they're boy or girl, noone can escape from me
The rule that I prefer is divide 2, minus 5
On July 21 2009 17:33 OhThatDang wrote:
2 years up 2 years down
when youre 19-28
after that its fair game!!!
well...18 and up (when 29)
So a 27 year old has a lower limit of 25 years, and a 29 year old has a lower limit of 18? Sweet
On July 21 2009 15:22 Toxiferous wrote:
needs to at least be done with elementary school
Actually this is one of the better rules to go by
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Women have a "prime" age for attractiveness (which coincides with peak fertility): 18-24.
Men sometimes peak later in terms of attractiveness, since much of it has to with social status, rather than pure looks (of course, this is not the case if you're Al Bundy - HS quarterback is as good as it gets).
This means that, as a man, when you're young you will be attracted to "older" women compared to you (ex: college girls when you're in HS). They will be rather unlikely to date you and if they do, it won't last. When you get older, the girls who you want most will be younger relative to you. These relationships can be good for both casual involvement and longer term stuff: you are both attractive to each other for a number of years, and women often like a stronger man who knows what he wants and can treat her well.
The "optimal ratio" of man's age to woman's age increases with the man's age, and then it comes crashing down again. There are limits to how old the guy can be before it gets creepy. + Show Spoiler +Rant: I can't believe she found a ball player who would not only marry her, but also agree to have the wedding at the Mansion and Heff give her away. Poor guy... he could do so much better than a nationally known skank. + Show Spoiler +Before you protest: the fact that she's easy on the eye makes her a good lay, NOT good wife material.
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On July 21 2009 15:16 integral wrote:
The number doesn't matter.
Ironic coming from a guy who's named integral.
I support this though, to a certain extent.
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Your age divided by 2 +7. Example: If you are 24, you divide by 2 to get 12, add 7 to get 19. So your 'youngest' would be 19. Thats the rule all my friends use.
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When I was 21 I'd never consider dating a 16year old. Now that I'm 25 I'd like to think my cut off is 21, but who knows.
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Age doesn't matter, as long as you're attracted to her.
Just don't sleep with her 'til she's 18...
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I cant believe this...
You can find hot any one you want. You could find hot a seep and i wont mind of it.
Something completly diferent is if you actually try to do a little girl or a sheep. Then something is wrong with you. Is completly normal to find a 16 YO girl hot, just turn on the tv, or look the models on the magazines. Many of them are 16 years old.
But, in the other hand i think i would never do a girl that is still on her secondary education. I think they have many things to learn and me fucking them is not one for the moment.
And look up, i had some of my best nights with women from 30 to 40.
BTW i am 26.
EDIT
This makes sense
On July 21 2009 23:20 Gene wrote:
if you want an actual relationship its all about what you want out of it. I'm 20 and still have never dated anyone younger than me.
If its just to fuck around, whatever just keep it legal.
And i disagree with many people. I think the best age is between 24 and 32. Is when you reach both your biological and your mental peak.
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there was a thread on this like last week
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Seventeen, because Winger told me so
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21 year old guy with 17 year old girl is creepy imo unless youve known them for quite a long time or something. Randomly picking up a 17 year old girl as a 21 year old is sketchy as fuck.
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My sister's 19 and is dating a 29 year old but they're both super religious so I don't know how that affects things. It definitely does have an impact, but how much I'm not sure.
I go by the half plus seven rule.
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age / 2 + 6 is acceptable
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Korea (South)17174 Posts
too many fish in the sea my friends....
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I have a date with a 32yearold this friday and I'm 25. It's cool for dudes to date older chicks though, right? Vice versa is just gross.
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I figure if shes 17 and mature to handle a relationship sure, but even then I wouldnt go for anyone under 18. Keep it simple.
[edit] that doesnt mean you go date someone 10 years older then you..thats just odd..I just dont get that.
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