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On July 19 2009 20:48 Aegraen wrote:Show nested quote +On July 19 2009 20:40 Foucault wrote: Limbonic Art? Cmon man, that band is mediocre at best, and definately not that "true" I don't like the production value for 'kvlt' BM. Limbonic Art is definitely not mediocre, but each their own ![](/mirror/smilies/wink.gif)
Yeah they're mediocre for sure and puhleeeease for the love of god (pun intended), can everyone stop saying "KVLT"
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Actually, Immortal is pretty chill. I don't have any of their albums right now, and wouldn't call myself a listener of the band, however. I'll add it on my looong list of shit to get, though.
But you're right...there really is no genre that isn't like that, but I guess I'm more forgiving when it comes to other genres because they spend more than a Benjamin and two hours on producing and mixing their recordings. That is the main reason why I can't stand a lot of black metal...so much of their production is utter crap...
I loved Emperor...their last album as a band is my favorite. Ihsahn's solo stuff is good too, but I miss Emperor...):
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On July 19 2009 20:58 Aegraen wrote:Show nested quote +On July 19 2009 20:47 PH wrote: I really cannot get past Keep of Kalessin and Emperor for black metal... :\
BTW...
Dimmu Borgir is symphonic black metal. They aren't black metal, and they sure as hell aren't death metal...they are neither of those two by a long shot, and I'd partner them closer to the likes of Cradle than other symphonic black bands.
Axamenta is not a respectable black metal band in any way shape or form. They're not a bad band, but...black meta? no.
Black metal has some great bands in it, but the vaaaast majority of it is complete and utter garbage. In the BM realm I mostly only listen to Symphonic BM like Tvangeste, Anthelion, Black Countess, etc. As I said prior I don't like the production value for kvlt BM. I'm also a Pianist/Keyboardist so you can see why I prefer Symphonic BM.
Dude, I know just the band for you. It was american(!) BM band, the name was something like Abigail Williams? I actually liked it and I´m not that much into such stuff or any genre in general just like the blogger himself.
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Hells yeah!
"At the heart of winter" is sick. That album has atmosphere. I also forgot about Emperor completely and I like them alot.
I think all these genre classifications are ridiculous; Dimmu Borgir was and is a norwegian black metal band, although with alot of different influences nowadays. Yeah they're not as true as Burzum, but they still play black metal, albeit a symphonic version.
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On July 19 2009 21:04 Foucault wrote: Hells yeah!
"At the heart of winter" is sick. That album has atmosphere. I also forgot about Emperor completely and I like them alot.
I think all these genre classifications are ridiculous; Dimmu Borgir was and is a norwegian black metal band, although with alot of different influences nowadays. Yeah they're not as true as Burzum, but they still play black metal, albeit a symphonic version.
Yeah I think that Immortals masterpiece is AtHoW and then Damned In Black isn´t as good as Sons of Northern Darkness but those are the top3 records. They have the right ratio of studio/producing work yet not too clean and soft like one could say about alot of modern BM.
Man this is starting to be pretty good conversation, are you guys musicians or something? :D Or just music enthusiasts? I love playing some KoK and Immortal, that really gets your hand all fucked up... like Demonaz´s
E. Oh yeah. All Shall Fall is going to be super epic destruction of the known universe, I guess it comes out in September.
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Yeah AtHoW/Sons of northern darkness (damn good album too) as number 1 and the rest of Immortal, like "Damned in black" as number 2.
I play guitar, and have played in several bands....mostly hardcore though since I'm not a very "metal" guy per se; no long hair etc. I also did some rapping in another band, so I'm pretty open to different music.
Actually I'm mostly into hardcore and hip-hop. And alot of metal too
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On July 19 2009 21:02 Mah Buckit! wrote:Show nested quote +On July 19 2009 20:58 Aegraen wrote:On July 19 2009 20:47 PH wrote: I really cannot get past Keep of Kalessin and Emperor for black metal... :\
BTW...
Dimmu Borgir is symphonic black metal. They aren't black metal, and they sure as hell aren't death metal...they are neither of those two by a long shot, and I'd partner them closer to the likes of Cradle than other symphonic black bands.
Axamenta is not a respectable black metal band in any way shape or form. They're not a bad band, but...black meta? no.
Black metal has some great bands in it, but the vaaaast majority of it is complete and utter garbage. In the BM realm I mostly only listen to Symphonic BM like Tvangeste, Anthelion, Black Countess, etc. As I said prior I don't like the production value for kvlt BM. I'm also a Pianist/Keyboardist so you can see why I prefer Symphonic BM. Dude, I know just the band for you. It was american(!) BM band, the name was something like Abigail Williams? I actually liked it and I´m not that much into such stuff or any genre in general just like the blogger himself.
Yeah, I know Abigail Williams. They aren't bad, they just don't measure up to many of the European and Southwest Asian bands.
Not sure if you listen to much symphonic BM, but I'd check out:
Alghazanth (Vocalist is in Swallow the Sun also) Stormlord Nightside Glance Enslavement of Beauty Dragonlord
Out of them, I'd have Enslavement of Beauty with the best overall feel to them. They have a very atmospheric sound which seems to envelop the listener. Alghazanth is probably the best to listen to if you prefer straight BM.
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i dont know if they are black metal but i like solefald
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Best black metal songs ever:
1. Deathspell Omega - Carnal Malefactor 2. Mayhem - Mysterii dom sathanas + freezing Moon 3. Funeral Mist - Funeral Mist
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My three best black bands:
Emperor (duuuuhhhh) old Blut Aus Nord Watchmaker
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On July 19 2009 21:53 Aegraen wrote:Show nested quote +On July 19 2009 21:02 Mah Buckit! wrote:On July 19 2009 20:58 Aegraen wrote:On July 19 2009 20:47 PH wrote: I really cannot get past Keep of Kalessin and Emperor for black metal... :\
BTW...
Dimmu Borgir is symphonic black metal. They aren't black metal, and they sure as hell aren't death metal...they are neither of those two by a long shot, and I'd partner them closer to the likes of Cradle than other symphonic black bands.
Axamenta is not a respectable black metal band in any way shape or form. They're not a bad band, but...black meta? no.
Black metal has some great bands in it, but the vaaaast majority of it is complete and utter garbage. In the BM realm I mostly only listen to Symphonic BM like Tvangeste, Anthelion, Black Countess, etc. As I said prior I don't like the production value for kvlt BM. I'm also a Pianist/Keyboardist so you can see why I prefer Symphonic BM. Dude, I know just the band for you. It was american(!) BM band, the name was something like Abigail Williams? I actually liked it and I´m not that much into such stuff or any genre in general just like the blogger himself. Yeah, I know Abigail Williams. They aren't bad, they just don't measure up to many of the European and Southwest Asian bands. Not sure if you listen to much symphonic BM, but I'd check out: Alghazanth (Vocalist is in Swallow the Sun also) Stormlord Nightside Glance Enslavement of Beauty Dragonlord Out of them, I'd have Enslavement of Beauty with the best overall feel to them. They have a very atmospheric sound which seems to envelop the listener. Alghazanth is probably the best to listen to if you prefer straight BM.
Yeah, I have a friend who listens to all kinds of finnish stuff so I know Alghazanth too but I´ve never really heard that much as I maybe should. There´s so much of it (finnish metal) that it´s getting pretty much generic shit
And to Foucault: Im a guitarist too (= main instrument )for good 6-7 years now, had some bandshit for a while but my friends ( don´t try to make a band with your friends!) were a bit to much interested in all other shit or just did fuckin nothing so it died. But I´m off to University and a bigger city ( The Metal Capital :D) so yeah I´ll definitely try to get to band or two.
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Although I'm a huge fan of Death Metal I really can't get into Black Metal...
The fact that all bands in the genre put so much effort in their looks really break it up for me. I can't stand the whole evil clown look most black metal bands have, and the fact that sometimes it seems good music are not a black metal band's main priority, but looking and sounding "evil".
All this animal killing, blood and other crap are just something to make up for shitty music. You don't see a real band like Opeth having to do any of that to be worshiped.
That been said I'll check some of these bands out - I'm pretty sure there can be some hidden jewels in the genre I'm yet to find out.
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IMMORTAL-BURZUM-DARKTHRONE-SATYRICON case closed
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On July 19 2009 23:55 Mah Buckit! wrote: ( The Metal Capital :D) so yeah I´ll definitely try to get to band or two.
Which capital might that be? I'm guessing Helsinki or Oslo/Bergen
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I'm more of a
1. Varathron 2. Necromanita 3. Mork Gryning
kind of guy. Not a huge fan of black metal though, most of it just doesn't make sense to me T_T
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On July 20 2009 03:19 FragKrag wrote: I'm more of a
1. Varathron 2. Necromanita 3. Mork Gryning
kind of guy. Not a huge fan of black metal though, most of it just doesn't make sense to me T_T
Mork Gryning are pretty cool, haven't heard that name in years. Thanks for bringing them up again!
What about Vintersorg?
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I never payed much attention to Vintersorg. Somebody told me to check them out, but I never got around to it because I was put off by the sound of bands like Immortal actually.
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I like Ved Buens Ende and Forgotten Woods at the moment. I think France is also maybe a rival for Norway's dominance of the scene now as well, seeing as most of the original Norwegian bands have changed so much.
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My favourite Black Metal bands, in no order, are: Deathspell Omega Krallice Krohm Nachtmystium Elysian Blaze (Funeral Doom/Black Metal) Mayhem Endstille
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On July 20 2009 04:16 ZZangDreamjOy wrote: My favourite Black Metal bands, in no order, are: Deathspell Omega Krallice Krohm Nachtmystium Elysian Blaze (Funeral Doom/Black Metal) Mayhem Endstille
Cool list, although aren't Endstille NSBM? It maybe they just use that marduk style imagery, I dunno. Give SVEST a go if you havent already.
Also, thanks to OP for linking Ragnarok, I haven't actually heard them until now. HATE gorgoroth though, but i'm an elitist little shit so whatever.
Also also, make blog posts about Structuralist philosophy instead of metal for more cool points (sorry if your name has no relation to Michel)
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