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Refrige
United States179 Posts
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ffswowsucks
Greece2298 Posts
On June 30 2009 07:19 CharlieMurphy wrote: PS- Also Shark? or whoever it was that discovered the use for muta stacking. That changed the game so much its crazy. I think ur refering to JulyZerg. but im not sure since u said discovered...  | ||
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DarkShadowz
Sweden321 Posts
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ffswowsucks
Greece2298 Posts
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GoSu
Korea (South)1773 Posts
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ZeeTemplar
United States557 Posts
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Tekin
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fanatacist
10319 Posts
On June 30 2009 07:10 Chef wrote: I would argue Bisu was the end of Savior's dominance, not a rival during his dominance. But I definitely agree with your point. There were the chumps, there were the greats, there were the amazings, and then there was freaking Savior. You'd watch games played by amazing players just cause you liked them, but you'd watch EVERY game by Savior, and when he played against an amazing player, he was still a huge favourite to win. Savior always seemed to take best of fives and only the best could even make it to the fifth game with him. When Bisu got his rise to fame... Sure his PvZ was revolutionary, but his PvT was mediocre (among great players, still better than most players), and his PvP was sometimes suspect. Taking Stork was amazing, but after that Bisu was never really the same force he used to be. His micro and tactics were always strong, but I didn't see him dominating. If I understood you correctly I would have to disagree. If you mean that Bisu is not the same force in terms of dominance over the scene right now, then I agree - Jaedong and Flash and the loss once in a while to JangBi/Stork/Some chump that is not as good as those two make him not seem as much of a clear favorite for best player on Earth. If you mean that Bisu is not the calibre player he used to be, I think you are mistaken - I have watched his older games recently (vs. Savior, vs. Jaedong on BS, vs. Flash on Katrina, vs. Stork on Loki) and I think what I notice the most is how much he has improved in all match-ups. His PvT has gotten way better, and I think his game vs. Flash on Katrina was just the start of that trend iirc. His PvP is the best in the world, I have no doubts about it - his performance in the finals vs. Stork was not as stellar as it is now, even though he didn't go linearly up in skill he is definitely far above what he used to be. His PvZ is still impeccable, and I think that how you play vs. Bisu in PvZ is what sets apart A-class from S-class Zergs. In games where there is no error on Bisu's part, Zergs that are below the likes of Jaedong/Effort look like C+ chumps (with the occasional exception in recent times in games vs. by.hero, hyvaa (I believe) and Yellow (come on that game was pimp, what Protoss player would have beaten that?)). In games where Bisu is fighting an S-class Zerg, like his GOM Bo5 vs Jaedong, showcase the peak of PvZ play, the best performance from both sides in all of SC history. Phew lengthy post :p I think I covered everything though. | ||
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fanatacist
10319 Posts
On June 30 2009 07:31 ffswowsucks wrote: I think ur refering to JulyZerg. but im not sure since u said discovered... It was Shark. | ||
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geegee1
United States618 Posts
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koreasilver
9109 Posts
On June 30 2009 05:16 sillyboy_tomato wrote: No question it has got to be Julyzerg and Savior that are the best representatives of the Zerg race. But I think no other Zerg has accomplished the consistency that jaedong has Savior's era? On June 30 2009 07:31 ffswowsucks wrote: I think ur refering to JulyZerg. but im not sure since u said discovered... No, it was Shark. | ||
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fanatacist
10319 Posts
On June 30 2009 08:17 geegee1 wrote: they said it could be shark or could be luxury noone exactly knows and julyzerg was the first to use muta micro on a live match Why are so many people talking out of their asses... It was Shark, for the third time in this thread (thank you kona for repeating me :p read threads moar.) | ||
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Mindcrime
United States6899 Posts
On June 30 2009 05:05 InToTheWannaB wrote: yellow was by far and away the best zerg for like 6 years running. No other zerg has been clearly that much better then the rest for that long, but yellow always just had boxer beating on him. If not for boxer yellow would be thought of as the greatest of all time. I think that makes him the best zerg in BW history. I really hope this is a joke. Six years? So he was far and away the best zerg 2001 through 2007? Fuck, Yellow stopped being the indisputably best zerg when Chojja really hit the scene in mid 2002. | ||
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drinking
Philippines281 Posts
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DragoonPK
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RedTerror
New Zealand742 Posts
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Bub
United States3518 Posts
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R3condite
Korea (South)1541 Posts
On June 30 2009 03:22 fusionsdf wrote: savior I don't think I even have to justify it yeah... cus he started it all... | ||
Carnivorous Sheep
Baa?21245 Posts
Also, regarding Zergs by region, I like EVA more than F91 Pity he retired D: | ||
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Deleted User 3420
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jaedong and july tie for 2nd imo and i think effort is the best right now, not jaedong really. you'll see. he's going to win everything soon | ||
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