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ZeeTemplar
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MorningMusume11
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Surprised no one mentioned Clint Dempsey yet... | ||
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ZeeTemplar
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On June 26 2009 10:00 MorningMusume11 wrote: They're deserving of the win but they got lucky in meeting the goal differential, I mean come on now, do you really think USA is better than Italy? It's a good win nonetheless and they better hope that South Africa wins because if it's Brazil (and even though I'm American) I hope Brazil runs the score on the US just to show how much further they need to go. Surprised no one mentioned Clint Dempsey yet... Clint Dempsey has been inconsistent thats why I didnt mention him yet D:. Sometimes luck is required to achieve something great things no? I think USA IS better then Italy. I mean come on Italy beat Egypt 1:0, while USA beat Egypt 3:0. Both teams lost to brazil 3:0 under different circumstances. You have to agree that USA played atrocious against Brazil. Hell, they even played with 10 men through half the game because of a weak call by the ref which led to a red card. Italy lost because they well sucked. If the US plays with the same kind of intensity like they played against Spain. I can almost guarantee a win. Brazil played mediocre against South Africa and barely scared in the 88'. Seriously? Is Brazil really AS deserving then SA? O_o I feel it will be a great game regardless though. | ||
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Cloud
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Spike
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US physical play matches up well with Italy like it did in 2006. If anyone watched the US-Italy game they would tell you that it was a very even match for about 60 minutes (till Rossi's goal gave them momentum). Remember that the US got a red card in the 30th. Even when Italy went up 2-1, the US had a couple opportunities to make it 2-2. The 3rd Italy goal was in the last minutes of stoppage when US gassed out, although Pirlo did display some magic. I don't think US has much of a chance vs Brazil tho. They're a much more physical and even quicker side than Spain. They're also better in the air than Spain so Gooch and Demerit won't win every ball with ease. Not to mention the skill/talent gap. PS. The person who ref'd the US-Italy match in 2006 WC was the same guy who ref'd US-Spain. US fans are still mad about the 2 reds in '06. I bring it up now cause when I found out, I immediately predicted a red to Bradley. /brag | ||
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MorningMusume11
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On June 26 2009 11:41 Spike wrote: Italy is much more skilled than the US but their team didn't play much better. US physical play matches up well with Italy like it did in 2006. If anyone watched the US-Italy game they would tell you that it was a very even match for about 60 minutes (till Rossi's goal gave them momentum). Remember that the US got a red card in the 30th. Even when Italy went up 2-1, the US had a couple opportunities to make it 2-2. The 3rd Italy goal was in the last minutes of stoppage when US gassed out, although Pirlo did display some magic. I don't think US has much of a chance vs Brazil tho. They're a much more physical and even quicker side than Spain. They're also better in the air than Spain so Gooch and Demerit won't win every ball with ease. Not to mention the skill/talent gap. PS. The person who ref'd the US-Italy match in 2006 WC was the same guy who ref'd US-Spain. US fans are still mad about the 2 reds in '06. I bring it up now cause when I found out, I immediately predicted a red to Bradley. /brag They just don't like us ^^ | ||
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Spike
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Anyway, more about US v Brazil. As Zee mentioned intensity is the key for US against Brazil. They can't come out flat and even scared? like they did the first time around. Hopefully this time Bradley will remember to leave off Beasley, and Kljestan doesn't really add much either. I'm wondering who'll replace Bradley Jr. though (seriously, red card fucked us hard here). I think Bradley Sr. will probably go with Feilhaber although I wish I got to see more of Adu or Torres who Bob hasn't used at all. Actually, Kljestan red call in the Brazil matchup is the most justifiable of the 3 the US got. I could definitely see it being a red call in every league. Only the US has had players sent off in this tournament and 3 of them no less. We need to work on a little control. | ||
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D10
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Me personally, im just waiting for an epic match. And altho I dont expect the USA to be owned, I believe we will win. | ||
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VIB
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On June 26 2009 09:10 ZeeTemplar wrote: When is that?USA vs Brazil gogo :D | ||
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Roffles
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ZeeTemplar
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Sunday @ 11:20 Pacific time(california) Channel: ESPN | ||
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ZeeTemplar
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On June 26 2009 12:02 Spike wrote: Who doesn't like us? You mean the ref? Anyway, more about US v Brazil. As Zee mentioned intensity is the key for US against Brazil. They can't come out flat and even scared? like they did the first time around. Hopefully this time Bradley will remember to leave off Beasley, and Kljestan doesn't really add much either. I'm wondering who'll replace Bradley Jr. though (seriously, red card fucked us hard here). I think Bradley Sr. will probably go with Feilhaber although I wish I got to see more of Adu or Torres who Bob hasn't used at all. Actually, Kljestan red call in the Brazil matchup is the most justifiable of the 3 the US got. I could definitely see it being a red call in every league. Only the US has had players sent off in this tournament and 3 of them no less. We need to work on a little control. Id either put Feilhaber, Adu(I believe he is injured?), or Casey(even though I know he isnt a true MF, I just feel he wont produce at F. He usually walks around and only god knows why. lol) in for Bradely Jr. I don't know anything about Torres. Bradley Sr. will probably resort to using Adu in the finals. I really don't get why he wont use him? Grudge? Maybe because hsi son plays the position? idk? lol I dont think the US will come out scared like they did when they first played Brazil, because they HAVE faced them already(which is a tough task :p). The only thing that worries me is that they might get nervous, because the US has never been in this position in this specific cup. Im sure you have seen all the hype that is beginning to build already as the game nears. | ||
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Spike
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The middle of the field would be too soft in Bob's eyes to let Adu take Jr's or especially the DM's spot. A Bradley-Adu combo is too weak defensively to justify. Anyway, this option is gone since Jr. got carded. The DM in this case is Clark and there just isn't enough skill or bite to hold down the midfield with an Adu-Clark Combo. This may change in the future with Jermaine Jones switching from Germany over to the US. Or when Maurice Edu recovers from injury. Adu would most likely be used as a right winger in Bob's setup. I highly doubt Bob will put Adu on as a second striker (unless as a sub) or go to 4-5-1. While Adu might make a good AM in a 4-5-1, the 4-4-2 suits the US play style and personnel much better. The line Bradley totes for not using Adu is that he's not in form, i.e. hasn't gotten playing time at his club. Kind of a BS excuse when he continues to put out Beasley and Altidore, although Beasley's callup might have ended with his horrendous showing against Brazil. But can't really blame Bob for using an out of form Altidore cause he's the best striker we have, in or out of form. The US struggles mightily with finishing and no one has a striker's instinct, except maybe Davies (Jozy still needs to develop) but he doesn't have a lot skill. Anyway, off tangent... For the love of god, don't use Casey. He's a F through and through and not of international level. Trying to put him in as MF will end badly. He's in the confederations cup because (1) Brian Ching is injured (2) gets a pat on the back for doing well in MLS. Feilhaber will most probably be Bob's choice and he does deserve a look. Neither Adu nor Torres has played yet so putting them in as a starter could be asking for too much. Bob really need to be better with making super subs though. | ||
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ZeeTemplar
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On June 26 2009 14:40 Spike wrote: Bradley Jr. doesn't take Adu's spot. Jr's a CM who plays more of a box to box mid and is sometimes used as a DM. Adu would most likely be used as a right winger in Bob's setup. I highly doubt Bob will put Adu on as a second striker (unless as a sub) or go to 4-5-1. While Adu might make a good AM in a 4-5-1, the 4-4-2 suits the US play style and personnel much better. The line Bradley totes for not using Adu is that he's not in form, i.e. hasn't gotten playing time at his club. Kind of a BS excuse when he continues to put out Beasley and Altidore, although Beasley's day might have ended with his horrendous showing against Brazil. But can't really blame Bob for using an out of form Altidore cause he's the best striker we have, in or out of form. The US struggles mightily with finishing and no one has a striker's instinct, except maybe Davies (Jozy still needs to develop) but he doesn't have a lot skill. For the love of god, don't use Casey. He's a F through and through and not of international level. Trying to put him in as MF will end badly. He's in the confederations cup because (1) Brian Ching is injured (2) gets a pat on the back for doing well in MLS. Feilhaber will most probably be Bob's choice and he does deserve a look. Neither Adu nor Torres has played yet so putting them in as a starter could be asking for too much. Bob really need to be better with making super subs though. They could use a 4-5-1 and play it loosely. Is it me or did Beasley play it like he was uncomfortable or scared? I dont think he will make the roster for the world cup. Yes, I will agree that Davies is the only one to have showed a instinct of a striker especially in the last few games. He's gaining confidence with every game. Will it come out again sunday? I dont know. The only reason I gave Casey as an option was because he has had some game experience and the fact that Adu and Torres arent in 'form' makes things pretty difficult. Im glad im not a soccer coach. :D Coaching American football is so much easier  lol | ||
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Spike
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 A little fix - Torres is actually in form, he plays for Pachuca in the Mexican league and I have no idea why Bob hasn't used him more, not only in this tournament but also world cup qualifying. There's a real log jam when it comes to CM/DM. Actually one of the US's strength and most definitely it's deepest position. Feilhaber - tho can be used on the right wing or as an AM. Torres - tho can be used on the left wing. Bradley Jr Jermaine Jones Clark Edu Adu - Maybe I shouldn't have been so quick to say that Jr doesn't take a spot. Still think his best spot is RM, AM, or SS but CM isn't out of the realm of possibility. Holden - tho more of an AM. On your question about Beasley - He hasn't been the same since his broken leg. He's always had a horrendous first touch but he could always rely on his speed in the past. He seems to have lost a few steps but Bob still use him because he can defend well for a winger, or used to. Also the whole experience thing to consider I suppose. I think his days are numbered though. | ||
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