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CharlieMurphy
Profile Blog Joined March 2006
United States22895 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-06-24 01:39:52
June 24 2009 01:37 GMT
#1
Since I work in a downtown area I get all kinds of people in my store, and I see all kinds of unusual stuff (actually its pretty usual since I see it all the time lol), that I don't see anywhere else.

Bums, walking in and asking a bunch of strange questions or talking nonsense. Or just quietly taking all the pamphlets and not responding to anything, then leaving.

Old people and tourists coming in confused as fuck.

People with disabilities, either mental or physical are always a bit of a challenge also. Stutterers, mentally retarded, physically retarded, blind, etc.

Kids, coming in with the poorest selling techniques (someone should teach these kids some of the basics at least) Selling 5$ candy bars for their baseball team or whatever.

I don't mind dealing with them so much, but every so often I get these people who come in and generally look all raggety and dirty. Sometimes they will interrupt everything between you and/or customer and disregard what's going on. They either have a card or some paper and stick it in your face that usually reads:
"Hi i am _____ I am deaf and have ____ problem. Please help me/family with ______ by a small donation of ____."

Sometimes they will be selling some cheap trinket or picture for an obscene amount of 'donation'. Anywhere from 5-20$ US.

I just googled around and generally find that these are a scam, and that the 'deaf community' really hates these fuckers for giving them a bad name and implying that deaf people are helpless.

So if you ever see these people, DO NOT feel sorry for them, DO NOT feel obligated to help them, just read their stupid card/paper and shake your head.
They are using a sale technique by invoking your sympathy. And it's even worse in front of customers because you wanna look good/not look like an asshole in front of customers.

If you have the balls tell these fuckers off when they turn their back to walk out, they most likely are not deaf. If they are deaf (which is really fucking unlikely), no harm done anyways.

*****
..and then I would, ya know, check em'. (Aka SpoR)
Mickey
Profile Blog Joined July 2005
United States2606 Posts
June 24 2009 01:46 GMT
#2
I live in Chicago, and ride the CTA daily. Even though panhandling/asking for money is technically illegal on CTA trains. I've had experiences with every kind of scam imaginable.

From African American kids asking for donations for a fake basketball team, to individuals pretending to be homeless for money, and even this.

It's really horrible that they play on peoples sympathy. As much as I feel obligated to help the less fortunate, people who scam using this kind of method really make me angry.
Durak
Profile Blog Joined January 2008
Canada3685 Posts
June 24 2009 01:47 GMT
#3
On June 24 2009 10:37 CharlieMurphy wrote:
If you have the balls tell these fuckers off when they turn their back to walk out, they most likely are not deaf. If they are deaf (which is really fucking unlikely), no harm done anyways.

That's not a bad idea except you'll look like a dick to everyone else.
Ancestral
Profile Blog Joined August 2007
United States3230 Posts
June 24 2009 01:48 GMT
#4
I don't understand why there is such a tightly knit deaf community but not a blind one. I don't know anything about it other than deaf people are usually against cures for deafness or curing babies born deaf because they think deafness is just an alternate lifestyle.

I also know deaf people rioted at some university for deaf people when a hearing president was appointed / elected however it works.

But bums generally just buy drugs. My rule when bums ask me for money for food (very often, there are a lot on High Street, the main street on the East side of Ohio State University) I offer to walk with them to McDonald's to get them a sandwich or something. Sometimes they accept, sometimes not.
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TheFoReveRwaR
Profile Blog Joined May 2006
United States10657 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-06-24 02:00:02
June 24 2009 01:56 GMT
#5
On June 24 2009 10:48 Ancestral wrote:
I don't understand why there is such a tightly knit deaf community but not a blind one. I don't know anything about it other than deaf people are usually against cures for deafness or curing babies born deaf because they think deafness is just an alternate lifestyle.

I also know deaf people rioted at some university for deaf people when a hearing president was appointed / elected however it works.

But bums generally just buy drugs. My rule when bums ask me for money for food (very often, there are a lot on High Street, the main street on the East side of Ohio State University) I offer to walk with them to McDonald's to get them a sandwich or something. Sometimes they accept, sometimes not.


Blind people can't find each other.

When a bum asks me for money for food, I give them a quarter. And keep on walking.

Then 30 seconds later I return and ask to burrow a quarter. If they pass the test, and give me my quarter back , I buy them a kilo of blow.

*cheesy comedy club drum roll*
Being healthy, it has been said, really consists of having the same disease as everybody else.
AoN.DimSum
Profile Blog Joined September 2008
United States2983 Posts
June 24 2009 01:58 GMT
#6
oh shit i think i got scammed lol. only a dollar though
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Ideas
Profile Blog Joined April 2008
United States8142 Posts
June 24 2009 01:58 GMT
#7
On June 24 2009 10:56 TheFoReveRwaR wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 24 2009 10:48 Ancestral wrote:
I don't understand why there is such a tightly knit deaf community but not a blind one. I don't know anything about it other than deaf people are usually against cures for deafness or curing babies born deaf because they think deafness is just an alternate lifestyle.

I also know deaf people rioted at some university for deaf people when a hearing president was appointed / elected however it works.

But bums generally just buy drugs. My rule when bums ask me for money for food (very often, there are a lot on High Street, the main street on the East side of Ohio State University) I offer to walk with them to McDonald's to get them a sandwich or something. Sometimes they accept, sometimes not.


Blind people can't find each other.



it'd be the worst orchestrated riot of all time
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Archaic
Profile Blog Joined March 2008
United States4024 Posts
June 24 2009 01:59 GMT
#8
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FragKrag
Profile Blog Joined September 2007
United States11552 Posts
June 24 2009 02:00 GMT
#9
lmao foreverwar t_t
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TheFoReveRwaR
Profile Blog Joined May 2006
United States10657 Posts
June 24 2009 02:01 GMT
#10
On June 24 2009 10:58 Ideas wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 24 2009 10:56 TheFoReveRwaR wrote:
On June 24 2009 10:48 Ancestral wrote:
I don't understand why there is such a tightly knit deaf community but not a blind one. I don't know anything about it other than deaf people are usually against cures for deafness or curing babies born deaf because they think deafness is just an alternate lifestyle.

I also know deaf people rioted at some university for deaf people when a hearing president was appointed / elected however it works.

But bums generally just buy drugs. My rule when bums ask me for money for food (very often, there are a lot on High Street, the main street on the East side of Ohio State University) I offer to walk with them to McDonald's to get them a sandwich or something. Sometimes they accept, sometimes not.


Blind people can't find each other.



it'd be the worst orchestrated riot of all time

Honestly a deaf riot sounds freaking hilarious.

I coulnd't help but just laugh.

Its pretty hard to convey outrage with signs. No matter how fast and forcefully you do them, just not that intimidating.
Being healthy, it has been said, really consists of having the same disease as everybody else.
Sigh
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
Canada2433 Posts
June 24 2009 02:05 GMT
#11
That reminds me of the time a homeless man asked me for money for the bus, i gave him a bus ticket and he started freaking out at me for 20 minutes. -.-
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LonelyMargarita
Profile Blog Joined August 2007
1845 Posts
June 24 2009 02:08 GMT
#12
On June 24 2009 10:46 Mickey wrote:
I live in Chicago, and ride the CTA daily. Even though panhandling/asking for money is technically illegal on CTA trains. I've had experiences with every kind of scam imaginable.

From African American kids asking for donations for a fake basketball team, to individuals pretending to be homeless for money, and even this.

It's really horrible that they play on peoples sympathy. As much as I feel obligated to help the less fortunate, people who scam using this kind of method really make me angry.


I love when panhandlers ask me for money on on the CTA. I just repeat the recorded announcement in the exact tone as they play it: "Soliciting on CTA trains is forbidden. Violators will be arrested," or whatever it is. It makes everyone else less uncomfortable about not giving him any money.
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InfeSteD
Profile Blog Joined December 2006
United States4658 Posts
June 24 2009 02:10 GMT
#13
CM where do u work at
w/e
PanoRaMa
Profile Blog Joined June 2003
United States5069 Posts
June 24 2009 02:19 GMT
#14
pan handling in the US is nothing like true pan handling in asia, where kids with missing limbs (plural), malnourished as fuck, mob tourists asking for money. this wouldn't be nearly as bad if not for the fact that often the limbs are removed on purpose by the pan handling equivalent of a pimp who runs these circles and shit. truly sad :[
Sigh
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
Canada2433 Posts
June 24 2009 02:21 GMT
#15
Apparently you're never supposed to give children money in Asia or else hoards of kids will come and follow you
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Sonu
Profile Blog Joined December 2008
Canada577 Posts
June 24 2009 02:24 GMT
#16
happens all the time at Niagra Falls. People are just sitting on the stone ridges, and they show you the sign, you say no, they move on. They never get 1 cent... wonder why they keep trying?
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Hypnosis
Profile Blog Joined October 2007
United States2061 Posts
June 24 2009 02:27 GMT
#17
Last week i bought one of those papers that "helps the homeless" for $1. This week i bought another one from the same guy because its only $1.. It was the same fucking paper I read last week on the light rail. It only costs 25 cents to make these shitty papers, why dont they hire a few bums and ask them to write a story for 75 cents and make the paper interesting and actually benefit them. Total bullshit,
Science without religion is lame, Religion without science is blind
Falcynn
Profile Blog Joined June 2005
United States3597 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-06-24 02:43:45
June 24 2009 02:42 GMT
#18
On June 24 2009 11:27 Hypnosis wrote:
Last week i bought one of those papers that "helps the homeless" for $1. This week i bought another one from the same guy because its only $1.. It was the same fucking paper I read last week on the light rail. It only costs 25 cents to make these shitty papers, why dont they hire a few bums and ask them to write a story for 75 cents and make the paper interesting and actually benefit them. Total bullshit,
I'm not sure if I'm understanding you correctly, but the papers actually do that. Most of the articles are written by homeless people, or at least the papers they sell out here in San Francisco are.

Also they're usually monthly papers, hence why you got the same paper two weeks in a row
Still bullshit sort of, but it's more respectable then some of the scams that others try to pull.
iheartgna
Profile Blog Joined February 2008
United States184 Posts
June 24 2009 02:58 GMT
#19
I while back I gave a guy three dollars at the gas station - he said he needed gas or something of that nature - Later that night the same guy knocked on my window at a red light, cracked out asking for more money. He didn't recognize me at all.

Recently however, I saw a guy filling up buckets with water from behind a 7-11 so I bought him a pallete of water bottles and a sandwich. If you really want to help, buying what they actually need is the best policy
Hell is other people.
prOxi.swAMi
Profile Blog Joined November 2004
Australia3091 Posts
June 24 2009 03:02 GMT
#20
When I was in Rome a really dirty homeless guy just came and ripped a cigarette out of my fiance's hand and ran away with it. Right in front of the cops Also in Rome but on a separate day, when I went to use some public toilets there was a psycho man in there just walking around jerking his dick and yelling shit at everybody who was in there
Oh no
micronesia
Profile Blog Joined July 2006
United States24740 Posts
June 24 2009 03:07 GMT
#21
On June 24 2009 11:21 Sigh wrote:
Apparently you're never supposed to give children money in Asia or else hoards of kids will come and follow you

I can think of certain ex tl users that would be motivated by this.
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prOxi.swAMi
Profile Blog Joined November 2004
Australia3091 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-06-24 03:17:36
June 24 2009 03:17 GMT
#22
On June 24 2009 12:07 micronesia wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 24 2009 11:21 Sigh wrote:
Apparently you're never supposed to give children money in Asia or else hoards of kids will come and follow you

I can think of certain ex tl users that would be motivated by this.

QFT rofl
Oh no
Empyrean
Profile Blog Joined September 2004
17015 Posts
June 24 2009 03:19 GMT
#23
As they're leaving, yell out "WATCH OUT" and see if they turn around.
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anotak
Profile Blog Joined March 2008
United States1537 Posts
June 24 2009 03:24 GMT
#24
i just ignore people when they try this
even if they get in my face i can act pretty zoned out (because it doesn't even really have to be an act)
they give up after max 3 attempts usually the first though
pinenamu
Profile Blog Joined September 2006
United States770 Posts
June 24 2009 03:42 GMT
#25
wow that is so messed up for the real deaf people. i can't believe there are some people that would swoop down so low to get money. =_=
HeavOnEarth
Profile Blog Joined March 2008
United States7087 Posts
June 24 2009 03:56 GMT
#26
On June 24 2009 12:19 Empyrean wrote:
As they're leaving, yell out "WATCH OUT" and see if they turn around.

haha awesome
"come korea next time... FXO house... 10 korean, 10 korean"
Toxic
Profile Blog Joined September 2008
Canada233 Posts
June 24 2009 03:57 GMT
#27
On June 24 2009 12:56 HeavOnEarth wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 24 2009 12:19 Empyrean wrote:
As they're leaving, yell out "WATCH OUT" and see if they turn around.

haha awesome


I actually tried that for ~5 minutes to no avail, they are good at it.
Yes.
BuGzlToOnl
Profile Blog Joined November 2006
United States5918 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-06-24 04:21:35
June 24 2009 04:19 GMT
#28
On June 24 2009 11:10 InfeSteD wrote:
CM where do u work at


I think he stated not to long ago he worked at a Verizon store or some sort of shop for phones.
If you want to make God laugh, tell Him your plans.
d(O.o)a
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
Canada5066 Posts
June 24 2009 04:35 GMT
#29
Just mouth words and you can usually tell what's up from their facial expression.
Hi.
Dead9
Profile Blog Joined February 2008
United States4725 Posts
June 24 2009 04:52 GMT
#30
On June 24 2009 13:35 iCCup.d(O.o)a wrote:
Just mouth words and you can usually tell what's up from their facial expression.

"Vacuum... Vacuuuuummmm..."
HeavOnEarth
Profile Blog Joined March 2008
United States7087 Posts
June 24 2009 05:33 GMT
#31
Lolol.
Daft Deaf(?) Deadbeats~
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fanatacist
Profile Blog Joined August 2007
10319 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-06-24 07:00:10
June 24 2009 06:58 GMT
#32
On June 24 2009 10:48 Ancestral wrote:
I don't understand why there is such a tightly knit deaf community but not a blind one. I don't know anything about it other than deaf people are usually against cures for deafness or curing babies born deaf because they think deafness is just an alternate lifestyle.

I also know deaf people rioted at some university for deaf people when a hearing president was appointed / elected however it works.

But bums generally just buy drugs. My rule when bums ask me for money for food (very often, there are a lot on High Street, the main street on the East side of Ohio State University) I offer to walk with them to McDonald's to get them a sandwich or something. Sometimes they accept, sometimes not.

How would all the blind people find each other? How would they meet without letting outsiders into their cult? How would they read secret instructions and private messages? It's not like they have braille envelopes to send mail to blind people who could decode it.

Think before you post, seriously.
Peace~
fanatacist
Profile Blog Joined August 2007
10319 Posts
June 24 2009 07:03 GMT
#33
Fuck you ForeverWar, beat me to it.

Peace~
TheFoReveRwaR
Profile Blog Joined May 2006
United States10657 Posts
June 24 2009 08:02 GMT
#34
On June 24 2009 11:58 iheartgna wrote:
I while back I gave a guy three dollars at the gas station - he said he needed gas or something of that nature - Later that night the same guy knocked on my window at a red light, cracked out asking for more money. He didn't recognize me at all.

Recently however, I saw a guy filling up buckets with water from behind a 7-11 so I bought him a pallete of water bottles and a sandwich. If you really want to help, buying what they actually need is the best policy

I'm pretty sure he needed the crack more than he needed a bottle of water.

The buckets wouldve worked fine. I'm fairly confident homeless people aren't overly picky about the quality of their water.
Being healthy, it has been said, really consists of having the same disease as everybody else.
TheFoReveRwaR
Profile Blog Joined May 2006
United States10657 Posts
June 24 2009 08:03 GMT
#35
On June 24 2009 16:03 fanatacist wrote:
Fuck you ForeverWar, beat me to it.


Ya mine was way better too.

Yours had too many words.
Being healthy, it has been said, really consists of having the same disease as everybody else.
fanatacist
Profile Blog Joined August 2007
10319 Posts
June 24 2009 08:25 GMT
#36
On June 24 2009 17:03 TheFoReveRwaR wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 24 2009 16:03 fanatacist wrote:
Fuck you ForeverWar, beat me to it.


Ya mine was way better too.

Yours had too many words.

Beauty of the written word is best shown in detail, omitting nothing.
Peace~
OhThatDang
Profile Joined August 2004
United States4685 Posts
June 24 2009 08:47 GMT
#37
haha that reminds me of that month in sandiego and i believe elsewhere too that certain individuals or even pairs were trying to get money for a ride on the bus

basically in my two instances it was a woman and then a woman and a man. They both had the same stories which was....their children are in the car waiting and they have no money to get on a bus to go someplace else. They would say that they need money for them and the kids or whatever you "have". The first time with the woman i was worried and said..well you can always come with me and I can take your kids to wherever (then i thought about how dumb that was hahahaha) she wouldnt accept and kept telling me money was fine. It got really fishy and so i left her there alone with her "KiDS" which i never saw BTW. couple weeks later two couples with same story as that last woman and they had kids too

this time i was like...why did u leave them there? =p
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jello_biafra
Profile Blog Joined September 2004
United Kingdom6638 Posts
June 24 2009 17:03 GMT
#38
I never give a penny to the homeless, the fucking krsna people or these god damn people saying they're disabled in some fashion and that entitles them to my money, or these people that perpetually need just another 50p for the bus, fuck them all.
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QuanticHawk
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
United States32084 Posts
June 24 2009 17:25 GMT
#39
I take certain joy in throwing out all those door to door people and shit. I'm on the main drag too, and we get a ton of them. The only ones I ever really give stuff to are kids for local teams or shit I know is a real, worthy cause. The deaf people are jerkoffs.

The worst are those retard salesmen who peddle cheap ass toys and shit. My favorite was the one guy who ignored me when I told him we weren't interested and to leave and went back to bother everyone else in the office. His shit ended up in the middle of the street.

Oddly enough, I'm more inclined to toss a few bucks towards a homeless person. yeah, they'll prolly get loaded (and sometimes we help and buy beer !) but shit, like I'd do anything different if I was living on a fucking street.
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Hypnosis
Profile Blog Joined October 2007
United States2061 Posts
June 24 2009 19:51 GMT
#40
On June 24 2009 11:42 Falcynn wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 24 2009 11:27 Hypnosis wrote:
Last week i bought one of those papers that "helps the homeless" for $1. This week i bought another one from the same guy because its only $1.. It was the same fucking paper I read last week on the light rail. It only costs 25 cents to make these shitty papers, why dont they hire a few bums and ask them to write a story for 75 cents and make the paper interesting and actually benefit them. Total bullshit,
I'm not sure if I'm understanding you correctly, but the papers actually do that. Most of the articles are written by homeless people, or at least the papers they sell out here in San Francisco are.

Also they're usually monthly papers, hence why you got the same paper two weeks in a row
Still bullshit sort of, but it's more respectable then some of the scams that others try to pull.


Yea i dont really have a problem with it because it is only a dollar and it helps people somewhat. I read some of the articles and i am still not sure if they are written by homeless people..
Science without religion is lame, Religion without science is blind
B1nary
Profile Blog Joined January 2008
Canada1267 Posts
June 24 2009 20:20 GMT
#41
Near the Berkeley campus, there's always a group of people, who look like they're 30, asking for donations to help their "high school basketball team." They carry around clipboards and offer it to you when asking for money to make it look more authentic. I took a look at one of the clipboards once and there was like 10 entries with different names and donation amounts varying from $5 to $40... except they're all written in the same ink and the same handwriting XD

That stuff about panhandling in Asia reminds me of Slumdog millionaire. Anyone else seen it? There's some pretty fucked up scenes in there.
roflMe
Profile Joined May 2009
United States40 Posts
June 24 2009 22:08 GMT
#42
i don't have any sympathy for beggars in 1st world countries
haha
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