Combat-ex banner

On June 18 2009 00:14 Frits wrote:
noone will question my persona? really? that's the best you could come up with for 6 bux?

On June 18 2009 00:14 Frits wrote:
noone will question my persona? really? that's the best you could come up with for 6 bux?

On June 18 2009 00:23 Archaic wrote:
You know he posted an apology video? Listen to it, it is made of pure hysterics.

On June 18 2009 00:45 Combat-EX wrote:
im not blaming anyone for what ive done...

and just to clear it up....i didn't post that ad, and i have no idea who did

this video is literally exactly what you guys have asked
and i made it...posted it on youtube for all my fans to see

if this doesn't make u guys happy,
i dont know what else i can do.

On June 18 2009 00:48 Shikyo wrote:
I guess I'll be nice since he bothered to post in here.

On June 18 2009 00:45 Combat-EX wrote:
im not blaming anyone for what ive done...

and just to clear it up....i didn't post that ad, and i have no idea who did

this video is literally exactly what you guys have asked
and i made it...posted it on youtube for all my fans to see

if this doesn't make u guys happy,
i dont know what else i can do.

On June 18 2009 00:45 Combat-EX wrote:
im not blaming anyone for what ive done...

and just to clear it up....i didn't post that ad, and i have no idea who did

this video is literally exactly what you guys have asked
and i made it...posted it on youtube for all my fans to see

if this doesn't make u guys happy,
i dont know what else i can do.

On June 18 2009 00:45 Combat-EX wrote:
im not blaming anyone for what ive done...

and just to clear it up....i didn't post that ad, and i have no idea who did

this video is literally exactly what you guys have asked
and i made it...posted it on youtube for all my fans to see

if this doesn't make u guys happy,
i dont know what else i can do.

On June 18 2009 00:54 Megalisk wrote:


Thanks for the vid man, that's pretty brave, honestly, your vids are what got me into 1v1 starcraft instead of playing BGH/Fastest.

On June 18 2009 01:19 Reason wrote:
Would somebody PLEASE explain who is combat-ex and what is this whole thing about?

On June 18 2009 01:33 Reason wrote:
So what? He's a pitiful newb who begs for wins. Not a crime or anything.

On June 18 2009 01:19 Reason wrote:
Would somebody PLEASE explain who is combat-ex and what is this whole thing about?

On June 18 2009 02:08 Chill wrote:
Really, he should just stream every game he plays so we can see if he's playing legit. That's my suggestion - his fans get to see live games and the "haters" get to see there's no abuse.

On June 18 2009 02:08 Chill wrote:
II hope he plays a clean season of ICCup (anonymously) seeing how high he can get with 0 abuse and little opponent-picking.

On June 18 2009 02:19 Chill wrote:
Ok, fuck it. I just linked him to Rage's mogulus stream and explained what livestreaming is and he doesn't want to do it. Moving on.

On June 18 2009 02:58 rkarhu wrote:
Just leave the man alone, he really repents what he has done. One reason I don't always love the ppl on TL.net is that a lot of you like to bash people needlessly. I don't see the point in making him feel bad all the time. This has gone on way too long.

On June 18 2009 02:58 rkarhu wrote:
Just leave the man alone, he really repents what he has done. One reason I don't always love the ppl on TL.net is that a lot of you like to bash people needlessly. I don't see the point in making him feel bad all the time. This has gone on way too long.

On June 18 2009 03:07 shavingcream66 wrote:
stop the hate guys

On June 18 2009 00:38 Osmoses wrote:

Hacker, abuser, whatever he might be, I don't know if I really care enough about anyone to sit through 8 minutes of monologue. :p

On June 18 2009 02:49 AoN.DimSum wrote:
haha read the youtube comments in the apology video. Everyone is bashing tlnet now.

On June 18 2009 03:34 Hot_Bid wrote:
Hacking and abusing is the cardinal sin in the Brood War community. Making one video and apologizing doesn't just absolve you from blame. In fact, I encourage excessive flaming of hackers and abusers for at least 1+ year from the incident.

On June 18 2009 04:43 Kyo Yuy wrote:

Just wondering, hasn't it been a year by now? Or is he still abusing ICCUP?

Combat seems to get a LOT more hate than players like LastShadow, Dino, and even the recent fiasco with ilovejessgill or whatever his/her name was.

On June 18 2009 01:13 TheFoReveRwaR wrote:

You have painfully low standards.

On June 18 2009 05:13 Fr33t wrote:
rofl at the new banner, that's awesome, haha

On June 18 2009 05:09 Megalisk wrote:

Cause I don't care about his little shenanigans, He just posts videos to help noobs and they do. He is a liar and he knows he isn't B-, but hes just giving some help.

On June 18 2009 05:17 Hot_Bid wrote:

Unfortunately, helping someone isn't a shield against criticism. For instance, OJ Simpson entertained millions of people with his skills as a running back in the National Football League. He then went on to murder two people. But I'm sure he helped people when he was a running back. This doesn't mean we can't say that his murders are wrong. Why are you supporting murder?

On June 18 2009 05:23 Megalisk wrote:



Except this isn't murder, its playing a fucking computer game.

On June 18 2009 05:23 Megalisk wrote:



Except this isn't murder, its playing a fucking computer game.

On June 18 2009 05:15 Harem wrote:

It even links to esports2.wav when you click on it.

Whoever added it is a hero.

On June 18 2009 05:23 Megalisk wrote:

Except this isn't murder, its playing a fucking computer game.

On June 18 2009 05:27 Avidkeystamper wrote:

That's just pointing out the difference in severity between the two examples but not the similarities.
It's like no one knows what an analogy is since I see this retort every time one is used.

On June 18 2009 05:17 disciple wrote:
well he screwed it up badly, but the year long flaming that Hot_Bid was talking about in the previous thread is just not necessary. I agree that the forgiveness must come later but think about it the other way. Sooner or later you will all become parents, and when your kids lie to you about smth which they eventually will do, you will most likely beat them, forbid them to watch tv for a week and thats it. If your so called love to the game and to fair play is so strong just focus on this and stop gangbanging ot combat-ex. Sure he did smth childish but you have no reason not to act mature yourself...

On June 18 2009 05:37 Hot_Bid wrote:

There is a difference between someone sincerely apologizing and then people slowly forgiving them and someone who repeatedly denied any wrongdoing, then a full year later still asks his opponents to intentionally lose to him and trade wins in exchange. Do you really not see the difference here?

Also, when someone acts a certain way, gets caught, and then doesn't change how he acts at all, how can you expect people to forgive him? Plus, a year of flaming and this was his first real "apology" for it, and even in the apology it looks like he's trying to martyr himself and make it look like TL is unnecessarily attacking him and forcing him to stop making videos. It's ridiculous.

On June 18 2009 05:42 Butigroove wrote:

I have a theory that this might actually make retards not visit TL, and thus imporve forum quality/less work for mods. THANK YOU COMBAT-EX!

On June 18 2009 05:17 disciple wrote:
well he screwed it up badly, but the year long flaming that Hot_Bid was talking about in the previous thread is just not necessary. I agree that the forgiveness must come later but think about it the other way. Sooner or later you will all become parents, and when your kids lie to you about smth which they eventually will do, you will most likely beat them, forbid them to watch tv for a week and thats it. If your so called love to the game and to fair play is so strong just focus on this and stop gangbanging ot combat-ex. Sure he did smth childish but you have no reason not to act mature yourself...

On June 18 2009 05:57 Chill wrote:

Combat-Ex was caught abusing two weeks ago. This is a year-long flaming.

On June 18 2009 06:08 disciple wrote:

Well you cant stop him making his videos, but you can just ignore his efforts. Why are you wasting your time with him anyway? Your points make sense, everything you say is completely reasonable but still its just not necessary - hackers and abusers will always exist on every level even on competitive. I'm not defending him and not saying "just let him be". Ignore him and dont let him in your house, thats all imho. The community is too large to bother so much about a random guy (maybe combat-ex is not completely random but still) who is cheating since forever and uploading his videos on youtube.
What are you trying to achieve anyway? Combat-Ex is not welcome to TL anyway, so this must be done with some kind of educational purpose - "dont do like combat-ex, cause he is a fag and the gaming world must get rid of guys like him"? Believe me I'm with you on everything and I support hot_bid about everything he said, but putting the banner on the main page, even discussing this so inside out is just... an overkill imho. I dont think all this will help in anyway to clean the gaming from the hackers

On June 18 2009 06:08 disciple wrote:

Well you cant stop him making his videos, but you can just ignore his efforts. Why are you wasting your time with him anyway? Your points make sense, everything you say is completely reasonable but still its just not necessary - hackers and abusers will always exist on every level even on competitive. I'm not defending him and not saying "just let him be". Ignore him and dont let him in your house, thats all imho. The community is too large to bother so much about a random guy (maybe combat-ex is not completely random but still) who is cheating since forever and uploading his videos on youtube.
What are you trying to achieve anyway? Combat-Ex is not welcome to TL anyway, so this must be done with some kind of educational purpose - "dont do like combat-ex, cause he is a fag and the gaming world must get rid of guys like him"? Believe me I'm with you on everything and I support hot_bid about everything he said, but putting the banner on the main page, even discussing this so inside out is just... an overkill imho. I dont think all this will help in anyway to clean the gaming from the hackers

On June 18 2009 05:32 Hot_Bid wrote:

Would you like me to provide an example that is less serious than murder, and we can debate which is more severe, abusing on ICCup or taking steroids in high school sports (he's helping the fans so i don't care!), or cheating in high school (he's helping his friends get better grades and get into college so i dont care!), etc.

But thank you for pointing out that taking freewins on a ladder is not actually killing someone, I was not aware of this difference when I made the analogy. I can't believe I didn't see that.

On June 18 2009 06:17 VIB wrote:
The path of the righteous man is beset on all sides by the inequities of the selfish and the tyranny of evil men. Blessed is he who, in the name of charity and good will, shepherds the weak through the valley of the darkness. For he is truly his brother's keeper and the finder of lost children. And I will strike down upon thee with great vengeance and furious anger those who attempt to poison and destroy my brothers. And you will know I am the Lord when I lay my vengeance upon you.

Ezekiel 25:17

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On June 18 2009 06:21 Barbapapa wrote:
Ok

I have no idea why you are so freaking mad at combat-ex. He is a bad player... SO FUCKING WHAT? I feel so stupid that I listened to him at the first place. NO! He's fucking awesome at what he is doing, I'm not only learning from his videos, but it's mostly entertaining. And isn't that what matters? Well, I'm not gonna work as a SC player when I get older, so why does it fucking matter if he might be teaching me wrong. I think it's you who are only jealous at his great work of posting VODs. And I don't get the videos less entertaining, if he has abused.

You all seem to forget, that starcraft is used for entertainment.

On June 18 2009 06:39 Barbapapa wrote:
1) He is improving my skills a lot, you cannot deny that.

2) And you say he is fucking the community??? Then I must say you all got pretty owned.. (raped, ayye??)
3) your brain must be really far up your ass.

On June 18 2009 06:45 VIB wrote:
1) You think that. You could be much better watching decent players.
2) You're part of it
3) At least my fart is smart!

On June 18 2009 06:39 Barbapapa wrote:
He is improving my skills a lot, you cannot deny that.

And you say he is fucking the community??? Then I must say you all got pretty owned.. (raped, ayye??)
Anyways, it's really retarded. If that statement is based on the fact that you said in your comment, that he would tell his viewers to watch stylish and day9 to learn starcraft - your brain must be really far up your ass.

On June 18 2009 06:55 Barbapapa wrote:

2) Booo, I created this account 1 hour ago.

On June 18 2009 06:58 MamiyaOtaru wrote:

You are improving your own skills by playing.

Your skills would improve even more by watching a competent player.

Sure, someone might praise a tutor for raising a student's grade from failing to barely passing, but if there are better tutors out there who could raise the student's grade to above average, why would anyone use the first tutor? Because he has good advertisements? That's combatEx.

His students may not be failing, but they are still getting shortchanged. And then they keep coming here and being all proud of how combatEx has helped them not fail. "Now I'm getting Ds instead of Fs and it's all because of combatEx! He's a great tutor stop shitting on him!"

On June 18 2009 07:11 Barbapapa wrote:


Dude...

Comparing Combat-ex and other Vod-posters is like comparing South Park with Fox-news. When I watch South Park, I watch it because it's entertaining, not because I learn stuff from it. And that is exactly why I rather watch Combat. Starcraft isn't science, IT IS ENTERTAINMENT!

On June 18 2009 07:16 Chezinu wrote:
here is the current banner:


It says "I'm kinda famous" when you put your mouse over it.

On June 18 2009 07:11 Barbapapa wrote:


Dude...

Comparing Combat-ex and other Vod-posters is like comparing South Park with Fox-news. When I watch South Park, I watch it because it's entertaining, not because I learn stuff from it. And that is exactly why I rather watch Combat. Starcraft isn't science, IT IS ENTERTAINMENT!

On June 18 2009 07:11 Barbapapa wrote:


Dude...

Comparing Combat-ex and other Vod-posters is like comparing South Park with Fox-news. When I watch South Park, I watch it because it's entertaining, not because I learn stuff from it. And that is exactly why I rather watch Combat. Starcraft isn't science, IT IS ENTERTAINMENT!

On June 18 2009 07:42 7mk wrote:


Go watch games on gomtv.net with top pro gamers playing, commentated by tasteless and tell me combat-ex is more entertaining

And youre obviously disaggreeing with combat-ex himself, cause the main defense he has is that his vids are educational for noobs, not that he posts them just cuz they are entertaining


For all of those who are wondering why he has so many followers:
Go to youtube and type in "starcraft zvp"
now look at the results: it shows like 29 videos, 27 of them are combat-ex vids
you do the math

LOL I watched one of them:
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excellent example of why his vids are so bad, some excellent quotes:
"so even if youre like D, if you do this build, youre gonna beat me" (at least he admits hes bad)
"yeah if youre noob,do this build, I highly recommend this (3hatch all in speedling build)" .. yeah because as a noob you really improve the most if you practice nothing but cheese.
And of course a classic:
"this is most effective against.. aeh fuck, aeh, a forge fast expand build, basically a bisu build"
also quite nice how his opponent doesn't even try to scout after his first probe dies

On June 18 2009 09:14 gimpygimpy wrote:
I smell jealousy and self-righteousness.

"Oh, I just CANNOT BELIEVE that someone would sink SO LOW as to pad their stats.....DISGUSTING!!! I am SO revolted. I am as pure as the wind-driven snow. I am sooooooo relieved that I am better than this pig with 4,604 loyal subscribers...."

On June 18 2009 09:20 Sentenal wrote:

lol

Yeah, I guess abusing a ladder, when 99% of everyone else who plays it does it legit, isn't that bad at all. Those people working hard at getting better/improving their rank are just dumb, they should abuse too!

edit: holy shit, how long have I been a dragoon...?

On June 18 2009 09:22 Harem wrote:

For about 3 posts, you nub.

On June 18 2009 09:14 gimpygimpy wrote:
I smell jealousy and self-righteousness.

"Oh, I just CANNOT BELIEVE that someone would sink SO LOW as to pad their stats.....DISGUSTING!!! I am SO revolted. I am as pure as the wind-driven snow. I am sooooooo relieved that I am better than this pig with 4,604 loyal subscribers...."

On June 18 2009 09:25 Sentenal wrote:

My dragoon would beat the shit out of your ling, HarmtaroAdun.

On June 18 2009 09:31 randomKo_Orean wrote:
I 'd like to volunteer for a Bo7 Showmatch. If y'all don't mind of course.

On June 18 2009 09:25 Sentenal wrote:

My dragoon would beat the shit out of your ling, HarmtaroAdun.

On June 18 2009 09:53 Avidkeystamper wrote:

My devourer will pwn the...wait, =[ At least I have armour and am a bitch to kill =]

On June 18 2009 10:03 7mk wrote:


just wait for Sentenal to become a corsair, then your time will have come

On June 18 2009 10:26 Avidkeystamper wrote:
The mods will probably get me stuck as a zergling since I post too much. Why is there no scourge though? That'd be badass.
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On June 18 2009 07:11 Barbapapa wrote:Comparing Combat-ex and other Vod-posters is like comparing South Park with Fox-news.

On June 18 2009 08:50 Sentenal wrote:
People don't hate Combat for "Helping noobs". I mean, wtf, why would people hate him for that? People hate him for a few reasons:

1.) He "teaches" bad playing habits, and then makes the noob think what they are doing is good. People who actually want noobs to get better obviously would take issue with that. People like day9, or stylish, or Nony's old FPVODs, are much more helpful to newbs. Since they actually teach good playing habits.

2.) He abused. Aka cheated. That is the MAIN reason people hate him. Abusers are just one step down from hackers, in terms of how much hate they should get. If he starts play legit, he will get much less hate. Just because he "helps" noobs (see above), doesn't excuse him from cheating in a competive game, spitting in the face of all the other people who play legit. And he probably abused wayyyyy more than what he admitted to in his apology vid.

3.) I guess how he presents himself is another reason. He acts like he is a very good player, and when very good players see that, they are like "wtf, this kid sucks, how can he act like hes so good?" His videos aren't meant for people like that, but that doesn't mean they won't/can't watch them. Needs more humble imo.

On June 18 2009 06:08 disciple wrote:

Well you cant stop him making his videos, but you can just ignore his efforts. Why are you wasting your time with him anyway? Your points make sense, everything you say is completely reasonable but still its just not necessary - hackers and abusers will always exist on every level even on competitive. I'm not defending him and not saying "just let him be". Ignore him and dont let him in your house, thats all imho. The community is too large to bother so much about a random guy (maybe combat-ex is not completely random but still) who is cheating since forever and uploading his videos on youtube.
What are you trying to achieve anyway? Combat-Ex is not welcome to TL anyway, so this must be done with some kind of educational purpose - "dont do like combat-ex, cause he is a fag and the gaming world must get rid of guys like him"? Believe me I'm with you on everything and I support hot_bid about everything he said, but putting the banner on the main page, even discussing this so inside out is just... an overkill imho. I dont think all this will help in anyway to clean the gaming from the hackers

On June 18 2009 10:39 Harem wrote:

Zergling is the best icon anyways.

On June 18 2009 09:14 gimpygimpy wrote:
I smell jealousy and self-righteousness.

"Oh, I just CANNOT BELIEVE that someone would sink SO LOW as to pad their stats.....DISGUSTING!!! I am SO revolted. I am as pure as the wind-driven snow. I am sooooooo relieved that I am better than this pig with 4,604 loyal subscribers...."

On June 18 2009 12:25 stanley_ wrote:
my friend's clanmate played combat in a bo 3 and won 2-1 and combat uploaded that 1 win in the bo 3.

that's the main reason i dislike this guy just shady stuff.

On June 18 2009 12:03 MamiyaOtaru wrote:

So wait, having 4,602 loyal subscribers means he's beyond reproach? You must worship Britney Spears then, she has 159,740 subscribers. Dunno if they are loyal though...

Seriously though, why would you bring that up? Having all those subscribers is part of why people are pissed off, and no, it's not jealousy. It's because those thousands of people think they are learning something (other than bad habits) when they are not. Those thousands of people are there because a fraud is good at misrepresenting himself.

If Anonymous dislikes David Miscavige it's not because Anonymous is jealous that David has thousands of followers. It's because Anonymous is pissed that thousands of people have been suckered into Scientology. Might Scientology help some people? Possibly. But not as much as real medicine or psychology.

People like Nony and Day9 are real doctors and psychologists. CombatEx is David Miscavige. What you are seeing here is not jealousy. It's poeple sick of a fraud duping gullible twits and said twits coming here to tell us how we are jealous of the great leader.

On June 18 2009 14:08 AlwaysGG wrote:
lol wow the never ending hatred of combatex.

actually i knew he is not a real deal all along by just watch a few of his fpvod then i stopped
it is really funny...

idk what to said i feel sry for the guy but then again hey,,, 可憐之人必有可誤之處so i dont really feel that sorry for him. because he deserve it.

On June 18 2009 12:59 VIB wrote:
lmao that is awesome ^^

IMHO Dishonesty is genetic. You're born with it, you cannot learn to be honest through experience. This Combat guy is incorrigible no matter what we do.

So all in all, the most productive thing left for us to do. Is make fun of him. Because that guy is a joke gold mine.

On June 18 2009 10:41 skronch wrote:
you're right. both combat-ex and fox-news spew self-indulgant, mindless shit.

On June 18 2009 11:01 Hot_Bid wrote:

Who are you to say what is a waste of time for us? We can decide what is productive and what is not. It is not up to you to decide whether the community is "too large to bother with him". That is the community's collective decision, not yours. If you want to ignore him that's fine, don't talk about him or click any of the threads. But I think we can decide for ourselves if we want to make fun of an idiot cheater or not.

You make it seem like we're seeking him out to talk about him, but really we're just doing it on our own forum. Is it really that horrible to make fun of an abuser on a community forum? Everything doesn't need to be necessary or educational. We don't like abusers and people with huge, unjustified egos. We like making fun of them. This public bashing is basically the only recourse and punishment we have against hackers and abusers. Do you really need to judge us and tell us we're wasting our time?

PS anyone can buy the adspace, it's not an official TL banner

PPS we're not trying to force him to stop making videos, we are just talking about the drama / stupidity / abuse

On June 18 2009 02:49 AoN.DimSum wrote:
haha read the youtube comments in the apology video. Everyone is bashing tlnet now.

On June 18 2009 14:45 evanthebouncy! wrote:


So you see TL's problem? We coop ourselves up in our little bubble while COmbat probably has somehow 12341312312 fanboys.
In a way he's more successful than the most of us in that people actually like him and he does inspire people to play low money. Yes he's pathetic in asking for wins, but again, he's trying to give helps, and regardless of the qualities, they are of use if you've never played low level before.
Personally, stepping on a person who's already been down makes you a coward, it takes balls to challenge people who's been in high positions, but once he's down, throwing stones after him is just like playing D- ranks on Iccup, and makes you no better than Combat.
So please think about it before jumping the bandwagon

On June 18 2009 14:38 gimpygimpy wrote:



Jealous

On June 18 2009 14:39 gimpygimpy wrote:


Self Righteous

On June 18 2009 14:39 gimpygimpy wrote:


Self Righteous

On June 18 2009 14:40 gimpygimpy wrote:


Confused

On June 18 2009 14:41 gimpygimpy wrote:



Combat Obsessed

On June 18 2009 14:45 evanthebouncy! wrote:


So you see TL's problem? We coop ourselves up in our little bubble while COmbat probably has somehow 12341312312 fanboys.
In a way he's more successful than the most of us in that people actually like him and he does inspire people to play low money. Yes he's pathetic in asking for wins, but again, he's trying to give helps, and regardless of the qualities, they are of use if you've never played low level before.
Personally, stepping on a person who's already been down makes you a coward, it takes balls to challenge people who's been in high positions, but once he's down, throwing stones after him is just like playing D- ranks on Iccup, and makes you no better than Combat.
So please think about it before jumping the bandwagon

On June 18 2009 09:15 YPang wrote:

LOLOL its so much funnier in chinese.

On June 18 2009 15:17 VIB wrote:
Either you didn't read anything that have been posted here already. Or you're just trying to play the unique snowflake. Combat has way more haters than fanboys and does way more harm than help.

On June 18 2009 15:29 evanthebouncy! wrote:

HAHAHAH this is so amazing HAHA

On June 18 2009 15:32 evanthebouncy! wrote:


Okay! This is interesting. The Harm/Help part might be hard to testify, but let's focus on the ppl who hate him and the ppl who like him.
You say that more people hate him than more people like him. I'm not saying you're wrong, but I have a hunch that more people actually like him.
Is there any way for us to verify it? Should be interesting

On June 18 2009 14:41 gimpygimpy wrote:



Combat Obsessed

On June 18 2009 15:37 VIB wrote:
Number of his subscriptions vs ... Number of TL members?

On June 18 2009 15:50 evanthebouncy! wrote:


But see that won't quite work because over 90% of TL does not know who he is (think about all the inactives, and people who has 1 post) and besides we don't really know how many people are registered on TL, unless a mod can give us some information on that.

But consider this though
VioleTAK has 12,817 subscribers
Combat has 4,610 Subscribers

Think about the content and quality of VioleTAK's video, see how many subscribers he have, Regardless of the quality of Combat's videos, he has 1/3 of VioleTAK's subscription number. You cannot argue that he's not successful at building a fan base.

On June 18 2009 16:09 Manifesto7 wrote:
I also don't really care about the "harmful" factor, because that is pretty much crap. There is enough material our there for people to judge for themselves.

On June 18 2009 16:22 VIB wrote:
I would have zero problem with him if he would make it very clear in each one of his vods that he isn't the best source for learning, and if you wish to improve yourself refer to x, y and z. As opposed to advertising all around that he is the best. Well that and of course, if he wasn't dishonest ><

On June 18 2009 21:59 SCC-AlwaysGG wrote:
For what its worth:
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On June 19 2009 00:21 h3r1n6 wrote:


Thats quite hilarious. Well, On second thought, its sad. But I know what it reminds me of:

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On June 19 2009 00:30 gjg.instinct wrote:
I played this guy on ICCUP last night. He proxi gated, gg'd, then begged for win, then built pylons in hidden corners and disconnected at the end.

[IMG=http://img140.imageshack.us/img140/2433/combatexbegging.jpg]

On June 19 2009 00:47 floor exercise wrote:
It's kinda sad because for all the work he puts into pretending he is good, for as long as he has been playing you really have to show a lack of talent to still not be a decent B- player

On June 19 2009 05:01 3clipse wrote:

Um, what? This is kind of insulting. The vast majority of regular sc players will never reach B- unless they do nothing but train all day.

On June 19 2009 01:02 Adeny wrote:


What you've got is combat_ex, combat's ID is combat-ex afaik. Probably just someone dicking around.

On June 19 2009 07:34 Caffeine_Free wrote:
Oh cmon VIB why didn't you copy and paste it

On June 19 2009 05:01 3clipse wrote:

Um, what? This is kind of insulting. The vast majority of regular sc players will never reach B- unless they do nothing but train all day.

On June 18 2009 21:59 Caffeine_Free wrote:
Rofl I came into this thread thinking, "Wow people on TL.Net are still bashing Combat? Good grief." But as I read every page in this thread(some tl;dr) I think this is about right.

He says people on TL.Net are bashing him and flaming but this was alot more civilized(or w/e >_>) than I thought it would be. I thought people would just say "OMG HE ABUSED HE SUCKS DICK GO KILL UR SELF" but its not thankfully. I think he's sorta blowing this out of proportion

The most people "support" him I think is really I think there just being blind fanboys. This is true on SC2GG a little(I've been a member there for a while so I'm not flaming SC2GG at all) but defending with "He takes time to post videos and help noobs". If I took 10 minutes out of my day I could post a 3 minute video on how to defend a 4 pool too. Mmm ok thats not fair yeah, because you post alot of games doesn't mean your allowed to be instantly forgiven.

Ok I dunno alot of what I wrote I just wrote what came to mind and when I try typing that out it turns into mumbo jumbo.

For what its worth:
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Oh and Senental, my SCVs will eat your Dragoons numnumnum

On June 19 2009 10:02 clazziquai wrote:
I declare myself the #1 combat-ex anti-fan (check sig). =D

On June 18 2009 05:32 Hot_Bid wrote:

Would you like me to provide an example that is less serious than murder, and we can debate which is more severe, abusing on ICCup or taking steroids in high school sports (he's helping the fans so i don't care!), or cheating in high school (he's helping his friends get better grades and get into college so i dont care!), etc.

But thank you for pointing out that taking freewins on a ladder is not actually killing someone, I was not aware of this difference when I made the analogy. I can't believe I didn't see that.

On June 18 2009 15:35 Ecael wrote:

Hahaha that was hilarious.

On June 18 2009 20:32 Kyo Yuy wrote:
I'm not necessarily defending Combat, but he doesn't really say he's the best. If he was really that dishonest he'd stretch his ICCUP rank further and say he was A+.

On June 19 2009 05:45 VIB wrote:
"Well at least, he is good at building a fan base"???

On June 20 2009 07:48 n wrote:


Because, unlike some more accomplished players, he actually takes the time and energy to consistently make videos. Really, to all those concerned about Combat-Ex's "influence" on his viewerbase, such as his promoting of bad strategies or gaming habits, why not start publishing your own videos to the extent that he does? The way I see it, at least he's doing something to promote Starcraft to those new to it. Since TL obviously has a ton of players that are more skilled than he is, why not use your resources instead of just whining about how he misleads noobs? Why not do something instead of sitting in your high-castle as many TLers seem to do. Really, the only thing I respect about Combat-Ex is that at least he tries to interact with the beginner community. I know personally that without Combat-Ex, I would not have gotten interested in non-money Starcraft to begin with. I don't watch his videos anymore, but I know without him I would never have come upon TL or competitive Starcraft.

So here's my challenge: instead of just complaining about how Combat-Ex is bad for the community, gather skilled TLers and start making your own educational FPVODS that do all the things that Combat-Ex's videos don't, on a schedule similar to Combat-Ex's own. Because the thing is, Combat-Ex isn't pushing anyone out of the way. He's not stealing shine from anybody, because nobody else really is willing to dedicate the time and energy to make videos as he does. Taking active steps to interact with the "lesser" community of Youtube will go a long way in making TL look less like hypocrites attacking Combat-Ex for making videos when in reality he is filling a void that can easily be filled by the TL community.

On June 18 2009 06:21 Barbapapa wrote:
Ok

I have no idea why you are so freaking mad at combat-ex. He is a bad player... SO FUCKING WHAT? I feel so stupid that I listened to him at the first place. NO! He's fucking awesome at what he is doing, I'm not only learning from his videos, but it's mostly entertaining. And isn't that what matters? Well, I'm not gonna work as a SC player when I get older, so why does it fucking matter if he might be teaching me wrong. I think it's you who are only jealous at his great work of posting VODs. And I don't get the videos less entertaining, if he has abused.

You all seem to forget, that starcraft is used for entertainment.

On June 20 2009 15:00 Combat-EX wrote:
so.. just to prove it, i am willing to game anyone on TL that has maxed at B- rank in a bo5/7/9
im not saying im going to win, but i can garuntee i'll put up a good fight.
the reason i am so confident in this is...because i have gotten B- without abuse on several smurf accounts.

and finally....as hard as this is to say...after reading all these pages of bashing.
i am still gonna try to earn TL's respect....

On June 21 2009 05:05 acnexus wrote:
Combat stop posting here. I have every reason to believe that most of the carebears here are not gonna stop bashing you. Let me list a few points that are so true.

(1) Most of TL is jealous of you for your popularity. Despite you cheating and lying (fukin moron you, but hey you were bashed on more threads and comments than I can count for what you did and you apologized and they still are bashing you just the same, so I don't know if they'll ever forgive you).

(2) They think way too high of themselves. "Oh Im better than him", bla bla bla. Well at least he is contributing to the noob community and to those stuck in between being a noob and a decent player. You on the other hand, set on your lazy asses and contribute ALOT more to bashing him than you contribute to the community......

(3) I believe a significant amount of hate at TL is due to your background and cultural beliefs. Believe me, no matter what people post below me to try to prove me wrong, your background has something to do with some of the hate. That being said, I don't think anything you do will make them neutral toward you. So don't waste your time and move on.

(4) I registered to post this here after seeing your unnecessary apology video, and I would like TL to know that they certainly aren't that loved by the SC community (the official one). Go check starcraft forums, scwire, and all other fan sites. You people are not loved. <-----period.

(5) I will be banned because of my opinions and you know what, I do not care, because you people don't respect anyone who disagrees with you. This is my first and last post here.


acnexus signing out.

On June 21 2009 05:05 acnexus wrote:
(5) I will be banned because of my opinions and you know what, I do not care, because you people don't respect anyone who disagrees with you. This is my first and last post here.

On June 21 2009 05:05 acnexus wrote:



acnexus signing out.

On June 21 2009 05:48 Chef wrote:

Do it.

People will be bashing you for a long time now. Mostly small minded people. But if you play legit, you don't bash lower ranks. Your record looks clean, you upload all your replays, and you stop asking for donations and boasting about how good you are... Eventually, people will stop hating you. They might not respect you, but at least they won't despise you. In order to be respect here, you have to be really, really good/helpful/awesome/amiable etc. Shoot for 'not hated.'

The problem with your apologies is that during them you're making tonnes of excuses. This isn't the spirit of an apology IMO it's like you never gave one. But I don't care, as long as you shape up and play honest from now on.