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Osmoses
Profile Blog Joined October 2008
Sweden5302 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-06-17 15:04:46
June 17 2009 15:03 GMT
#1
So I dunno if anyone else noticed it, but there is a new ad from project wonderful up there at the top, saying something... something. I didn't know about the combat-ex bashing in the cheese thread before I saw the banner, but even after I did, I still dont get it. What the hell is the man saying?

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"Can't fear anything because noone will question my persona."

Is this some kind of meme?

Edit: Imageshack appears to be having some issues atm.

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Excuse me hun, but what is your name? Vivian? I woke up next to you naked and, uh, did we, um?
konadora *
Profile Blog Joined February 2009
Singapore66160 Posts
June 17 2009 15:04 GMT
#2
Bring back BioboyAT
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Empyrean
Profile Blog Joined September 2004
16986 Posts
June 17 2009 15:06 GMT
#3
To be honest, besides the first and last parts, I'm not even sure what he was trying to get across.
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konadora *
Profile Blog Joined February 2009
Singapore66160 Posts
June 17 2009 15:08 GMT
#4
Maybe combat-ex is advertising that banner
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Frits
Profile Joined March 2003
11782 Posts
June 17 2009 15:14 GMT
#5
noone will question my persona? really? that's the best you could come up with for 6 bux?
foeffa
Profile Blog Joined August 2007
Belgium2115 Posts
June 17 2009 15:19 GMT
#6
1/10 for effort.
觀過斯知仁矣.
Spenguin
Profile Blog Joined November 2007
Australia3316 Posts
June 17 2009 15:20 GMT
#7
Lololol I think he got banned
< TeamLiquid CJ Entusman #46 > I came for the Brood War, I stayed for the people.
Archaic
Profile Blog Joined March 2008
United States4024 Posts
June 17 2009 15:23 GMT
#8
You know he posted an apology video? Listen to it, it is made of pure hysterics.
WhuazGoodJaggah
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
Lesotho777 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-06-17 15:24:30
June 17 2009 15:23 GMT
#9
On June 18 2009 00:14 Frits wrote:
noone will question my persona? really? that's the best you could come up with for 6 bux?


the ad doesnt cost 6$. it costs 6$ a day, so if its staying up for only 1 hour it costs 0.25$. i checked out how this ad system is working when i first saw the bioboyAT ad and wasnt sure how you could outbid an ad. i thought the system sucks that you waste 5$ if you overbid only for like 1 min but thats not how it works.
small dicks have great firepower
Fr33t
Profile Joined June 2008
United States1128 Posts
June 17 2009 15:24 GMT
#10
On June 18 2009 00:14 Frits wrote:
noone will question my persona? really? that's the best you could come up with for 6 bux?

lol, could have gotten a half decent lunch for that and change.
"Wow you could literally transport Lomo's face to a girl and the result would be pretty deceptive."
PriitM
Profile Blog Joined March 2008
Algeria181 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-06-17 15:40:24
June 17 2009 15:37 GMT
#11
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Osmoses
Profile Blog Joined October 2008
Sweden5302 Posts
June 17 2009 15:38 GMT
#12
On June 18 2009 00:23 Archaic wrote:
You know he posted an apology video? Listen to it, it is made of pure hysterics.

Hacker, abuser, whatever he might be, I don't know if I really care enough about anyone to sit through 8 minutes of monologue. :p
Excuse me hun, but what is your name? Vivian? I woke up next to you naked and, uh, did we, um?
Racenilatr
Profile Blog Joined August 2008
United States2756 Posts
June 17 2009 15:39 GMT
#13
lol I wonder how he got so many subscribers in the first place
freelander
Profile Blog Joined December 2004
Hungary4707 Posts
June 17 2009 15:39 GMT
#14
I enjoy this ad I think it is funny.
Also it states that combatex is pathetic.
And all is illuminated.
AoN.DimSum
Profile Blog Joined September 2008
United States2983 Posts
June 17 2009 15:41 GMT
#15
lol combatex is trying to downplay his abuse and then blaming teamliquid... LOL
by my idol krokkis : "U better hope Finland wont have WCG next year and that I wont gain shitloads of skill, cause then I will wash ur mouth with soap, little man."
Combat-EX
Profile Joined October 2008
Canada32 Posts
June 17 2009 15:45 GMT
#16
im not blaming anyone for what ive done...

and just to clear it up....i didn't post that ad, and i have no idea who did

this video is literally exactly what you guys have asked
and i made it...posted it on youtube for all my fans to see

if this doesn't make u guys happy,
i dont know what else i can do.
Shikyo
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
Finland33997 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-06-17 16:00:32
June 17 2009 15:48 GMT
#17
I guess I'll be nice since he bothered to post in here.

On June 18 2009 00:45 Combat-EX wrote:
im not blaming anyone for what ive done...

and just to clear it up....i didn't post that ad, and i have no idea who did

this video is literally exactly what you guys have asked
and i made it...posted it on youtube for all my fans to see

if this doesn't make u guys happy,
i dont know what else i can do.


Of course there are a couple of issues. First off, you might like to capitalize properly.

Second, your videos don't really teach anything, which leads into people believing that you post them to brag about your skill. You don't say anything about the build orders or the strategies or discuss anything that's actually useful everywhere. You basically just concentrate on that single game and how things worked there.

You mostly post videos of bad BOs that don't work if your opponent can play, and won't help many players. Most of your videos also are against really bad players, which also leads people to believe you do it to brag about your skill; They only teach you how to noob bash, not how to beat actually good strategies. You in fact don't really teach anything in those VODs, you just tell what you're doing and such, without going in depth about any BOs or decision-making or such.

I've watched pretty much all of the videos and haven't really learnt anything; You don't talk about what one is supposed to do vs what, and you're mostly far better than your opponents so you'll win whatever you do. Instead of "here I'm keeping my minerals really low, so I'm macroing well" you might like to say something like "While moving your army through the field it's good to double tap 5 to get back to your base to macro, and then double tap 11 when you're done so that you can macro while you're not doing anything important" or whatever. Seriously, the videos don't actually teach anything. Your BOs aren't properly done most of the time and you don't even go into detail about them.

A few tips for getting people to take you seriously:

1. Don't play against public noobs or whatever. Play on ICCUP at C-C+-B- or whatever is your rank and commentate on those games, against actually decent players

2. Talk more about the BOs, say when you should do them, on which maps they're good. Also say what they work against and what's good against them.

3. Add some more advanced things or even something to help others learn. Although there's a little bit of it, something like "He's not pulling SCVs off gas so he's likely to go for either a 2-fac or 1f1p, you counter these builds by...".

4. Use BOs that actually work, don't do some random crap that only works against terrible players.

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Archaic
Profile Blog Joined March 2008
United States4024 Posts
June 17 2009 15:50 GMT
#18
On June 18 2009 00:48 Shikyo wrote:
I guess I'll be nice since he bothered to post in here.

This was what came across my mind after clicking "Reply", then going back without posting anything.
Icysoul
Profile Joined December 2007
Canada254 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-06-17 15:52:57
June 17 2009 15:51 GMT
#19
On June 18 2009 00:45 Combat-EX wrote:
im not blaming anyone for what ive done...

and just to clear it up....i didn't post that ad, and i have no idea who did

this video is literally exactly what you guys have asked
and i made it...posted it on youtube for all my fans to see

if this doesn't make u guys happy,
i dont know what else i can do.


lol get chill in here if he hasnt already seen this.

Seriously, i dont think theres anything to do that can fix your reputation. Theres nothing you can do, you cannot reverse whats been done.
Megalisk
Profile Blog Joined October 2008
United States6095 Posts
June 17 2009 15:54 GMT
#20
On June 18 2009 00:45 Combat-EX wrote:
im not blaming anyone for what ive done...

and just to clear it up....i didn't post that ad, and i have no idea who did

this video is literally exactly what you guys have asked
and i made it...posted it on youtube for all my fans to see

if this doesn't make u guys happy,
i dont know what else i can do.


Thanks for the vid man, that's pretty brave, honestly, your vids are what got me into 1v1 starcraft instead of playing BGH/Fastest.
Tear stained american saints and dirty guitar dreams across a universe of desert and blue sky , gas station coffee love letters and two dollar pistol kisses from thirty five dollar hotel room stationary .
Resistance92
Profile Joined June 2009
United States1 Post
June 17 2009 15:58 GMT
#21
wuts chill gotta do with combat ex?
Respect Is Everything
lovelyrose
Profile Joined July 2003
Canada160 Posts
June 17 2009 16:01 GMT
#22
I'd never pay 10 dollars to insult someone, especially to the people I'm insulting, but that's me.
Hot_Bid
Profile Blog Joined October 2003
Braavos36374 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-06-17 16:01:53
June 17 2009 16:01 GMT
#23
On June 18 2009 00:45 Combat-EX wrote:
im not blaming anyone for what ive done...

and just to clear it up....i didn't post that ad, and i have no idea who did

this video is literally exactly what you guys have asked
and i made it...posted it on youtube for all my fans to see

if this doesn't make u guys happy,
i dont know what else i can do.

you could play a player of TL's choice in a televised bo7

but of course there's no way you'd agree to that
@Hot_Bid on Twitter - ESPORTS life since 2010 - http://i.imgur.com/U2psw.png
Husky
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
United States3362 Posts
June 17 2009 16:03 GMT
#24
Felt like I was watching an AA confession watching that. I just dont get why anyone would take ICCUP so seriously that they would have to constantly beg people for free wins. Take a chillpill man.
Commentaries: youtube.com/HuskyStarcraft
CatioN
Profile Joined February 2009
United States136 Posts
June 17 2009 16:05 GMT
#25
I bet you a penny that Chill put that ad up there,

Yes i agree with hotbid on this, you can still make your videos to help the lesser skilled, but i would throw out a video playing a really good player and show that you won't be invincible doing this build and such. hotbid vs combat bo7 go go go!!
Micro/Macro with love!
TheFoReveRwaR
Profile Blog Joined May 2006
United States10657 Posts
June 17 2009 16:13 GMT
#26
On June 18 2009 00:54 Megalisk wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 18 2009 00:45 Combat-EX wrote:
im not blaming anyone for what ive done...

and just to clear it up....i didn't post that ad, and i have no idea who did

this video is literally exactly what you guys have asked
and i made it...posted it on youtube for all my fans to see

if this doesn't make u guys happy,
i dont know what else i can do.


Thanks for the vid man, that's pretty brave, honestly, your vids are what got me into 1v1 starcraft instead of playing BGH/Fastest.

You have painfully low standards.
Being healthy, it has been said, really consists of having the same disease as everybody else.
Reason
Profile Blog Joined June 2006
United Kingdom2770 Posts
June 17 2009 16:19 GMT
#27
Would somebody PLEASE explain who is combat-ex and what is this whole thing about?
Speak properly, and in as few words as you can, but always plainly; for the end of speech is not ostentation, but to be understood.
Husky
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
United States3362 Posts
June 17 2009 16:21 GMT
#28
On June 18 2009 01:19 Reason wrote:
Would somebody PLEASE explain who is combat-ex and what is this whole thing about?


He's a guy who makes youtube videos supposidly to help noobs. He has been well known for a VERY long time for constantly begging for wins against his opponents. There is tons of proof in the 'post your gg/owned/cheese screenshots', with lots of him constantly begging people to let him win a game he's obviously losing and saying things like 'please, people respect me and i need this win for my youtube viewers, i need this, please let me win, i'll trade you 3 wins on a different account'

Thank god he wont be able to do this on sc2... at least he's probably finally realizing that.
Commentaries: youtube.com/HuskyStarcraft
Reason
Profile Blog Joined June 2006
United Kingdom2770 Posts
June 17 2009 16:33 GMT
#29
So what? He's a pitiful newb who begs for wins. Not a crime or anything.
Speak properly, and in as few words as you can, but always plainly; for the end of speech is not ostentation, but to be understood.
Reason
Profile Blog Joined June 2006
United Kingdom2770 Posts
June 17 2009 16:37 GMT
#30
I'm surprised how much attention this newb is receiving. Shun him, then forget about him. Stop making threads and posts and pictures and god knows what else. Let him wither in the past as a disgrace to humanity.
Speak properly, and in as few words as you can, but always plainly; for the end of speech is not ostentation, but to be understood.
Hot_Bid
Profile Blog Joined October 2003
Braavos36374 Posts
June 17 2009 16:39 GMT
#31
On June 18 2009 01:33 Reason wrote:
So what? He's a pitiful newb who begs for wins. Not a crime or anything.

well, he also abused on iccup to get a higher rank
@Hot_Bid on Twitter - ESPORTS life since 2010 - http://i.imgur.com/U2psw.png
Dgtl
Profile Blog Joined December 2008
Canada889 Posts
June 17 2009 16:52 GMT
#32
I say bo7 vs chill and they both stream it over mogulus. If Combat wins we can stop bashing him and if Chill wins then life will continue as always.
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StorrZerg
Profile Blog Joined February 2008
United States13919 Posts
June 17 2009 16:53 GMT
#33
On June 18 2009 01:37 Reason wrote:
I'm surprised how much attention this newb is receiving. Shun him, then forget about him. Stop making threads and posts and pictures and god knows what else. Let him wither in the past as a disgrace to humanity.


but then people move onto someone new to gawk at. its a never ending cycle.
Hwaseung Oz fan for life. Swing out, always swing out.
Dgtl
Profile Blog Joined December 2008
Canada889 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-06-17 16:55:39
June 17 2009 16:53 GMT
#34
On June 18 2009 01:19 Reason wrote:
Would somebody PLEASE explain who is combat-ex and what is this whole thing about?

Combat is a guy on youtube who posts FPVODS in hope it helps people. It doesn't most of the time because they are bad builds. Combat also abbused on Iccup.

Edit: I think i figured out the banner. The person is saying that we are worse than Combat because we all bash him and this makes us think that we are invincible. Also we are supposed to mind our own business
^______________^
TT1
Profile Blog Joined December 2008
Canada10009 Posts
June 17 2009 16:53 GMT
#35
combat! how are you?
what happened to the fpvod of the 2v2 game.. i wanted to make my debut on combat-ex tv
ab = tl(i) + tl(pc), the grand answer to every tl.net debate
Heyoka
Profile Blog Joined March 2008
Katowice25012 Posts
June 17 2009 16:58 GMT
#36
Didnt comabt say he was going to quit forever if he couldn't gain TL's favor?
@RealHeyoka | ESL / DreamHack StarCraft Lead
Itachii
Profile Blog Joined April 2008
Poland12466 Posts
June 17 2009 17:00 GMT
#37
Whats the fuss about, who the hell is combat ex and why do ppl care so much about him?
La parole nous a été donnée pour déguiser notre pensée
PriitM
Profile Blog Joined March 2008
Algeria181 Posts
June 17 2009 17:04 GMT
#38
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MiniRoman
Profile Blog Joined September 2003
Canada3953 Posts
June 17 2009 17:06 GMT
#39
Just some guy who wants to be liked lol.
Nak Allstar.
Chill
Profile Blog Joined January 2005
Calgary25980 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-06-17 17:10:52
June 17 2009 17:08 GMT
#40
I already tried to play Combat twice on a live stream. Once he was out of practise but posted an FPVod of his win over me. The other time he didn't have a CDKey so I asked on a stream for one, got around 50, gave him 2 and then he had some other reason he couldn't play.

Anyways, it is what it is. We all know Combat has abused more than 10 times. Other than that I'm glad he posted this and I hope he plays a clean season of ICCup (anonymously) seeing how high he can get with 0 abuse and little opponent-picking.

Really, he should just stream every game he plays so we can see if he's playing legit. That's my suggestion - his fans get to see live games and the "haters" get to see there's no abuse.
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Hyde
Profile Blog Joined November 2007
Australia14568 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-06-17 17:18:43
June 17 2009 17:17 GMT
#41
On June 18 2009 02:08 Chill wrote:
Really, he should just stream every game he plays so we can see if he's playing legit. That's my suggestion - his fans get to see live games and the "haters" get to see there's no abuse.

That's a good idea, I also think the bo7 against a TL member is a good idea.
I don't have anything against Combat (I don't like or hate him), even if he is a cheater, but I felt that video he made (even though it takes a lot to apologise to a community) was a bit half hearted, it just seemed like he didn't apologise because he felt bad, but because TL made him do it...

But he's taking steps to redeem himself, and that's definitely a step in the right direction.
Because when you left, Brood War was all spotlights and titans. Now, with the death of the big leagues, Brood War has moved to the basements and carparks. Now, Brood War is unlicensed brawls, lost teeth, and bloody fights for fistfulls of money - SirJolt
Chill
Profile Blog Joined January 2005
Calgary25980 Posts
June 17 2009 17:19 GMT
#42
Ok, fuck it. I just linked him to Rage's mogulus stream and explained what livestreaming is and he doesn't want to do it. Moving on.
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Reason
Profile Blog Joined June 2006
United Kingdom2770 Posts
June 17 2009 17:21 GMT
#43
On June 18 2009 02:08 Chill wrote:
II hope he plays a clean season of ICCup (anonymously) seeing how high he can get with 0 abuse and little opponent-picking.

CombaT-EX on iccup ?
Speak properly, and in as few words as you can, but always plainly; for the end of speech is not ostentation, but to be understood.
Hyde
Profile Blog Joined November 2007
Australia14568 Posts
June 17 2009 17:23 GMT
#44
On June 18 2009 02:19 Chill wrote:
Ok, fuck it. I just linked him to Rage's mogulus stream and explained what livestreaming is and he doesn't want to do it. Moving on.

lol hahahahaha
Because when you left, Brood War was all spotlights and titans. Now, with the death of the big leagues, Brood War has moved to the basements and carparks. Now, Brood War is unlicensed brawls, lost teeth, and bloody fights for fistfulls of money - SirJolt
TT1
Profile Blog Joined December 2008
Canada10009 Posts
June 17 2009 17:26 GMT
#45
lol you dont even need cd key to play on iccup, and about the streaming he doesnt even need to learn anything.. all hes doing is playing as he normally does while the obs is streaming the match
ab = tl(i) + tl(pc), the grand answer to every tl.net debate
PriitM
Profile Blog Joined March 2008
Algeria181 Posts
June 17 2009 17:29 GMT
#46
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Avidkeystamper
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
United States8552 Posts
June 17 2009 17:30 GMT
#47
I know what the banner says! The middle sentence means that we're not afraid to pick on Combat-ex because no one will question us since everyone (supposedly) is doing it.
Kinda improperly worded. I don't know if Persona is used correctly.
Jaedong
PriitM
Profile Blog Joined March 2008
Algeria181 Posts
June 17 2009 17:34 GMT
#48
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Avidkeystamper
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
United States8552 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-06-17 17:37:52
June 17 2009 17:36 GMT
#49
Mob mentality?
Chill's voice sounds raw or like he needs some water imo. Not that it sounds bad, just "fresh".
Jaedong
PriitM
Profile Blog Joined March 2008
Algeria181 Posts
June 17 2009 17:41 GMT
#50
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AoN.DimSum
Profile Blog Joined September 2008
United States2983 Posts
June 17 2009 17:49 GMT
#51
haha read the youtube comments in the apology video. Everyone is bashing tlnet now.
by my idol krokkis : "U better hope Finland wont have WCG next year and that I wont gain shitloads of skill, cause then I will wash ur mouth with soap, little man."
PriitM
Profile Blog Joined March 2008
Algeria181 Posts
June 17 2009 17:52 GMT
#52
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rkarhu
Profile Blog Joined December 2007
Finland570 Posts
June 17 2009 17:58 GMT
#53
Just leave the man alone, he really repents what he has done. One reason I don't always love the ppl on TL.net is that a lot of you like to bash people needlessly. I don't see the point in making him feel bad all the time. This has gone on way too long.
PriitM
Profile Blog Joined March 2008
Algeria181 Posts
June 17 2009 18:04 GMT
#54
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shavingcream66
Profile Blog Joined February 2008
United States1219 Posts
June 17 2009 18:07 GMT
#55
stop the hate guys
shavingcream66
Profile Blog Joined February 2008
United States1219 Posts
June 17 2009 18:07 GMT
#56
On June 18 2009 02:58 rkarhu wrote:
Just leave the man alone, he really repents what he has done. One reason I don't always love the ppl on TL.net is that a lot of you like to bash people needlessly. I don't see the point in making him feel bad all the time. This has gone on way too long.



Hot_Bid
Profile Blog Joined October 2003
Braavos36374 Posts
June 17 2009 18:34 GMT
#57
On June 18 2009 02:58 rkarhu wrote:
Just leave the man alone, he really repents what he has done. One reason I don't always love the ppl on TL.net is that a lot of you like to bash people needlessly. I don't see the point in making him feel bad all the time. This has gone on way too long.

When someone cheats I believe there should be a long, long road to forgiveness. If you're forgiving cheaters a month after they do it, you're spitting in the face of all the legit players. Honest, fair competition should be the highest standard everyone holds and anyone in violation of that deserves all the hate they can get.

Hacking and abusing is the cardinal sin in the Brood War community. Making one video and apologizing doesn't just absolve you from blame. In fact, I encourage excessive flaming of hackers and abusers for at least 1+ year from the incident. If the flaming and bandwagon hate forces just 1 more potential hacker to hesitate, it's worth it. If it forces a scumbag like Combat to feel like shit for one more minute, it's worth it.

Why? Because we love this game and love honest competition. That's what this site is built on. Clearly you don't understand this and would like to sit in a circle and sign kumbaya with all the hackers a week after they do it. If that's how you view the situation, please find another site to post on. We don't want you here for SC2.
@Hot_Bid on Twitter - ESPORTS life since 2010 - http://i.imgur.com/U2psw.png
Hot_Bid
Profile Blog Joined October 2003
Braavos36374 Posts
June 17 2009 18:36 GMT
#58
On June 18 2009 03:07 shavingcream66 wrote:
stop the hate guys

If you want the hate to stop, convince the hackers and abusers to stop hacking and abusing. Blame the douchebag cheaters not the honest people that get mad at them.
@Hot_Bid on Twitter - ESPORTS life since 2010 - http://i.imgur.com/U2psw.png
geometryb
Profile Blog Joined November 2005
United States1249 Posts
June 17 2009 18:39 GMT
#59
wow that's an expensive banner. 10.10?
R3condite
Profile Joined August 2008
Korea (South)1541 Posts
June 17 2009 19:07 GMT
#60
On June 18 2009 00:38 Osmoses wrote:
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On June 18 2009 00:23 Archaic wrote:
You know he posted an apology video? Listen to it, it is made of pure hysterics.

Hacker, abuser, whatever he might be, I don't know if I really care enough about anyone to sit through 8 minutes of monologue. :p

seriously... who gives an f about some internet persona?
ggyo...
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Profile Blog Joined January 2009
Hong Kong4685 Posts
June 17 2009 19:27 GMT
#61
On June 18 2009 02:49 AoN.DimSum wrote:
haha read the youtube comments in the apology video. Everyone is bashing tlnet now.

Don't even bother writing pro-TL comments in the apology video, he'll just delete them.
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Kyo Yuy
Profile Joined January 2009
United States1286 Posts
June 17 2009 19:43 GMT
#62
On June 18 2009 03:34 Hot_Bid wrote:
Hacking and abusing is the cardinal sin in the Brood War community. Making one video and apologizing doesn't just absolve you from blame. In fact, I encourage excessive flaming of hackers and abusers for at least 1+ year from the incident.

Just wondering, hasn't it been a year by now? Or is he still abusing ICCUP?

Combat seems to get a LOT more hate than players like LastShadow, Dino, and even the recent fiasco with ilovejessgill or whatever his/her name was.
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Hypnosis
Profile Blog Joined October 2007
United States2061 Posts
June 17 2009 20:00 GMT
#63
On June 18 2009 04:43 Kyo Yuy wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 18 2009 03:34 Hot_Bid wrote:
Hacking and abusing is the cardinal sin in the Brood War community. Making one video and apologizing doesn't just absolve you from blame. In fact, I encourage excessive flaming of hackers and abusers for at least 1+ year from the incident.

Just wondering, hasn't it been a year by now? Or is he still abusing ICCUP?

Combat seems to get a LOT more hate than players like LastShadow, Dino, and even the recent fiasco with ilovejessgill or whatever his/her name was.


Thats because the other players are actually good.
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Megalisk
Profile Blog Joined October 2008
United States6095 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-06-17 20:11:08
June 17 2009 20:09 GMT
#64
On June 18 2009 01:13 TheFoReveRwaR wrote:
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On June 18 2009 00:54 Megalisk wrote:
On June 18 2009 00:45 Combat-EX wrote:
im not blaming anyone for what ive done...

and just to clear it up....i didn't post that ad, and i have no idea who did

this video is literally exactly what you guys have asked
and i made it...posted it on youtube for all my fans to see

if this doesn't make u guys happy,
i dont know what else i can do.


Thanks for the vid man, that's pretty brave, honestly, your vids are what got me into 1v1 starcraft instead of playing BGH/Fastest.

You have painfully low standards.



Cause I don't care about his little shenanigans, He just posts videos to help noobs and they do. He is a liar and he knows he isn't B-, but hes just giving some help.
Tear stained american saints and dirty guitar dreams across a universe of desert and blue sky , gas station coffee love letters and two dollar pistol kisses from thirty five dollar hotel room stationary .
Fr33t
Profile Joined June 2008
United States1128 Posts
June 17 2009 20:13 GMT
#65
rofl at the new banner, that's awesome, haha
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Harem
Profile Joined November 2007
United States11390 Posts
June 17 2009 20:15 GMT
#66
On June 18 2009 05:13 Fr33t wrote:
rofl at the new banner, that's awesome, haha

It even links to esports2.wav when you click on it.

Whoever added it is a hero.
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PriitM
Profile Blog Joined March 2008
Algeria181 Posts
June 17 2009 20:16 GMT
#67
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Hot_Bid
Profile Blog Joined October 2003
Braavos36374 Posts
June 17 2009 20:17 GMT
#68
On June 18 2009 05:09 Megalisk wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 18 2009 01:13 TheFoReveRwaR wrote:
On June 18 2009 00:54 Megalisk wrote:
On June 18 2009 00:45 Combat-EX wrote:
im not blaming anyone for what ive done...

and just to clear it up....i didn't post that ad, and i have no idea who did

this video is literally exactly what you guys have asked
and i made it...posted it on youtube for all my fans to see

if this doesn't make u guys happy,
i dont know what else i can do.


Thanks for the vid man, that's pretty brave, honestly, your vids are what got me into 1v1 starcraft instead of playing BGH/Fastest.

You have painfully low standards.

Cause I don't care about his little shenanigans, He just posts videos to help noobs and they do. He is a liar and he knows he isn't B-, but hes just giving some help.

Unfortunately, helping someone isn't a shield against criticism. For instance, OJ Simpson entertained millions of people with his skills as a running back in the National Football League. He then went on to murder two people. But I'm sure he helped people when he was a running back. This doesn't mean we can't say that his murders are wrong. Why are you supporting murder?
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disciple
Profile Blog Joined January 2008
9070 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-06-17 20:19:05
June 17 2009 20:17 GMT
#69
well he screwed it up badly, but the year long flaming that Hot_Bid was talking about in the previous thread is just not necessary. I agree that the forgiveness must come later but think about it the other way. Sooner or later you will all become parents, and when your kids lie to you about smth which they eventually will do, you will most likely beat them, forbid them to watch tv for a week and thats it. If your so called love to the game and to fair play is so strong just focus on this and stop gangbanging ot combat-ex. Sure he did smth childish but you have no reason not to act mature yourself...
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Megalisk
Profile Blog Joined October 2008
United States6095 Posts
June 17 2009 20:23 GMT
#70
On June 18 2009 05:17 Hot_Bid wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 18 2009 05:09 Megalisk wrote:
On June 18 2009 01:13 TheFoReveRwaR wrote:
On June 18 2009 00:54 Megalisk wrote:
On June 18 2009 00:45 Combat-EX wrote:
im not blaming anyone for what ive done...

and just to clear it up....i didn't post that ad, and i have no idea who did

this video is literally exactly what you guys have asked
and i made it...posted it on youtube for all my fans to see

if this doesn't make u guys happy,
i dont know what else i can do.


Thanks for the vid man, that's pretty brave, honestly, your vids are what got me into 1v1 starcraft instead of playing BGH/Fastest.

You have painfully low standards.

Cause I don't care about his little shenanigans, He just posts videos to help noobs and they do. He is a liar and he knows he isn't B-, but hes just giving some help.

Unfortunately, helping someone isn't a shield against criticism. For instance, OJ Simpson entertained millions of people with his skills as a running back in the National Football League. He then went on to murder two people. But I'm sure he helped people when he was a running back. This doesn't mean we can't say that his murders are wrong. Why are you supporting murder?



Except this isn't murder, its playing a fucking computer game.
Tear stained american saints and dirty guitar dreams across a universe of desert and blue sky , gas station coffee love letters and two dollar pistol kisses from thirty five dollar hotel room stationary .
Avidkeystamper
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
United States8552 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-06-17 20:28:03
June 17 2009 20:27 GMT
#71
On June 18 2009 05:23 Megalisk wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 18 2009 05:17 Hot_Bid wrote:
On June 18 2009 05:09 Megalisk wrote:
On June 18 2009 01:13 TheFoReveRwaR wrote:
On June 18 2009 00:54 Megalisk wrote:
On June 18 2009 00:45 Combat-EX wrote:
im not blaming anyone for what ive done...

and just to clear it up....i didn't post that ad, and i have no idea who did

this video is literally exactly what you guys have asked
and i made it...posted it on youtube for all my fans to see

if this doesn't make u guys happy,
i dont know what else i can do.


Thanks for the vid man, that's pretty brave, honestly, your vids are what got me into 1v1 starcraft instead of playing BGH/Fastest.

You have painfully low standards.

Cause I don't care about his little shenanigans, He just posts videos to help noobs and they do. He is a liar and he knows he isn't B-, but hes just giving some help.

Unfortunately, helping someone isn't a shield against criticism. For instance, OJ Simpson entertained millions of people with his skills as a running back in the National Football League. He then went on to murder two people. But I'm sure he helped people when he was a running back. This doesn't mean we can't say that his murders are wrong. Why are you supporting murder?



Except this isn't murder, its playing a fucking computer game.

That's just pointing out the difference in severity between the two examples but not the similarities.
It's like no one knows what an analogy is since I see this retort every time one is used.
Jaedong
YPang
Profile Blog Joined April 2007
United States4024 Posts
June 17 2009 20:28 GMT
#72
On June 18 2009 05:23 Megalisk wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 18 2009 05:17 Hot_Bid wrote:
On June 18 2009 05:09 Megalisk wrote:
On June 18 2009 01:13 TheFoReveRwaR wrote:
On June 18 2009 00:54 Megalisk wrote:
On June 18 2009 00:45 Combat-EX wrote:
im not blaming anyone for what ive done...

and just to clear it up....i didn't post that ad, and i have no idea who did

this video is literally exactly what you guys have asked
and i made it...posted it on youtube for all my fans to see

if this doesn't make u guys happy,
i dont know what else i can do.


Thanks for the vid man, that's pretty brave, honestly, your vids are what got me into 1v1 starcraft instead of playing BGH/Fastest.

You have painfully low standards.

Cause I don't care about his little shenanigans, He just posts videos to help noobs and they do. He is a liar and he knows he isn't B-, but hes just giving some help.

Unfortunately, helping someone isn't a shield against criticism. For instance, OJ Simpson entertained millions of people with his skills as a running back in the National Football League. He then went on to murder two people. But I'm sure he helped people when he was a running back. This doesn't mean we can't say that his murders are wrong. Why are you supporting murder?



Except this isn't murder, its playing a fucking computer game.


a computer game that brings tons of competition that people want to be fair, and often times money is involved in MANY events/clan leagues.
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freelander
Profile Blog Joined December 2004
Hungary4707 Posts
June 17 2009 20:32 GMT
#73
On June 18 2009 05:15 Harem wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 18 2009 05:13 Fr33t wrote:
rofl at the new banner, that's awesome, haha

It even links to esports2.wav when you click on it.

Whoever added it is a hero.


it is so chill-esque
or maybe a fast expansion.. you never know you know
And all is illuminated.
Hot_Bid
Profile Blog Joined October 2003
Braavos36374 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-06-17 20:33:38
June 17 2009 20:32 GMT
#74
On June 18 2009 05:23 Megalisk wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 18 2009 05:17 Hot_Bid wrote:
On June 18 2009 05:09 Megalisk wrote:
On June 18 2009 01:13 TheFoReveRwaR wrote:
On June 18 2009 00:54 Megalisk wrote:
On June 18 2009 00:45 Combat-EX wrote:
im not blaming anyone for what ive done...

and just to clear it up....i didn't post that ad, and i have no idea who did

this video is literally exactly what you guys have asked
and i made it...posted it on youtube for all my fans to see

if this doesn't make u guys happy,
i dont know what else i can do.


Thanks for the vid man, that's pretty brave, honestly, your vids are what got me into 1v1 starcraft instead of playing BGH/Fastest.

You have painfully low standards.

Cause I don't care about his little shenanigans, He just posts videos to help noobs and they do. He is a liar and he knows he isn't B-, but hes just giving some help.

Unfortunately, helping someone isn't a shield against criticism. For instance, OJ Simpson entertained millions of people with his skills as a running back in the National Football League. He then went on to murder two people. But I'm sure he helped people when he was a running back. This doesn't mean we can't say that his murders are wrong. Why are you supporting murder?

Except this isn't murder, its playing a fucking computer game.

Would you like me to provide an example that is less serious than murder, and we can debate which is more severe, abusing on ICCup or taking steroids in high school sports (he's helping the fans so i don't care!), or cheating in high school (he's helping his friends get better grades and get into college so i dont care!), etc.

But thank you for pointing out that taking freewins on a ladder is not actually killing someone, I was not aware of this difference when I made the analogy. I can't believe I didn't see that.
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keV.
Profile Blog Joined February 2009
United States3214 Posts
June 17 2009 20:34 GMT
#75
On June 18 2009 05:27 Avidkeystamper wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 18 2009 05:23 Megalisk wrote:
On June 18 2009 05:17 Hot_Bid wrote:
On June 18 2009 05:09 Megalisk wrote:
On June 18 2009 01:13 TheFoReveRwaR wrote:
On June 18 2009 00:54 Megalisk wrote:
On June 18 2009 00:45 Combat-EX wrote:
im not blaming anyone for what ive done...

and just to clear it up....i didn't post that ad, and i have no idea who did

this video is literally exactly what you guys have asked
and i made it...posted it on youtube for all my fans to see

if this doesn't make u guys happy,
i dont know what else i can do.


Thanks for the vid man, that's pretty brave, honestly, your vids are what got me into 1v1 starcraft instead of playing BGH/Fastest.

You have painfully low standards.

Cause I don't care about his little shenanigans, He just posts videos to help noobs and they do. He is a liar and he knows he isn't B-, but hes just giving some help.

Unfortunately, helping someone isn't a shield against criticism. For instance, OJ Simpson entertained millions of people with his skills as a running back in the National Football League. He then went on to murder two people. But I'm sure he helped people when he was a running back. This doesn't mean we can't say that his murders are wrong. Why are you supporting murder?



Except this isn't murder, its playing a fucking computer game.

That's just pointing out the difference in severity between the two examples but not the similarities.
It's like no one knows what an analogy is since I see this retort every time one is used.


So true... this is one of those knee jerk forum auto responses people think make sense.
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Hot_Bid
Profile Blog Joined October 2003
Braavos36374 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-06-17 20:38:00
June 17 2009 20:37 GMT
#76
On June 18 2009 05:17 disciple wrote:
well he screwed it up badly, but the year long flaming that Hot_Bid was talking about in the previous thread is just not necessary. I agree that the forgiveness must come later but think about it the other way. Sooner or later you will all become parents, and when your kids lie to you about smth which they eventually will do, you will most likely beat them, forbid them to watch tv for a week and thats it. If your so called love to the game and to fair play is so strong just focus on this and stop gangbanging ot combat-ex. Sure he did smth childish but you have no reason not to act mature yourself...

There is a difference between someone sincerely apologizing and then people slowly forgiving them and someone who repeatedly denied any wrongdoing, then a full year later still asks his opponents to intentionally lose to him and trade wins in exchange. Do you really not see the difference here?

Also, when someone acts a certain way, gets caught, and then doesn't change how he acts at all, how can you expect people to forgive him? Plus, a year of flaming and this was his first real "apology" for it, and even in the apology it looks like he's trying to martyr himself and make it look like TL is unnecessarily attacking him and forcing him to stop making videos. It's ridiculous.
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Butigroove
Profile Blog Joined October 2006
Seychelles2061 Posts
June 17 2009 20:42 GMT
#77
On June 18 2009 05:37 Hot_Bid wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 18 2009 05:17 disciple wrote:
well he screwed it up badly, but the year long flaming that Hot_Bid was talking about in the previous thread is just not necessary. I agree that the forgiveness must come later but think about it the other way. Sooner or later you will all become parents, and when your kids lie to you about smth which they eventually will do, you will most likely beat them, forbid them to watch tv for a week and thats it. If your so called love to the game and to fair play is so strong just focus on this and stop gangbanging ot combat-ex. Sure he did smth childish but you have no reason not to act mature yourself...

There is a difference between someone sincerely apologizing and then people slowly forgiving them and someone who repeatedly denied any wrongdoing, then a full year later still asks his opponents to intentionally lose to him and trade wins in exchange. Do you really not see the difference here?

Also, when someone acts a certain way, gets caught, and then doesn't change how he acts at all, how can you expect people to forgive him? Plus, a year of flaming and this was his first real "apology" for it, and even in the apology it looks like he's trying to martyr himself and make it look like TL is unnecessarily attacking him and forcing him to stop making videos. It's ridiculous.

I have a theory that this might actually make retards not visit TL, and thus imporve forum quality/less work for mods. THANK YOU COMBAT-EX!
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VIB
Profile Blog Joined November 2007
Brazil3567 Posts
June 17 2009 20:50 GMT
#78
On June 18 2009 05:42 Butigroove wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 18 2009 05:37 Hot_Bid wrote:
On June 18 2009 05:17 disciple wrote:
well he screwed it up badly, but the year long flaming that Hot_Bid was talking about in the previous thread is just not necessary. I agree that the forgiveness must come later but think about it the other way. Sooner or later you will all become parents, and when your kids lie to you about smth which they eventually will do, you will most likely beat them, forbid them to watch tv for a week and thats it. If your so called love to the game and to fair play is so strong just focus on this and stop gangbanging ot combat-ex. Sure he did smth childish but you have no reason not to act mature yourself...

There is a difference between someone sincerely apologizing and then people slowly forgiving them and someone who repeatedly denied any wrongdoing, then a full year later still asks his opponents to intentionally lose to him and trade wins in exchange. Do you really not see the difference here?

Also, when someone acts a certain way, gets caught, and then doesn't change how he acts at all, how can you expect people to forgive him? Plus, a year of flaming and this was his first real "apology" for it, and even in the apology it looks like he's trying to martyr himself and make it look like TL is unnecessarily attacking him and forcing him to stop making videos. It's ridiculous.

I have a theory that this might actually make retards not visit TL, and thus imporve forum quality/less work for mods. THANK YOU COMBAT-EX!
Haha! That's a great way to see the bright side of things. Combat is a tard but at least he contributes and keeping TL clean from other tards who follow him :p
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pyrogenetix
Profile Blog Joined March 2006
China5094 Posts
June 17 2009 20:52 GMT
#79
he's an average player that markets himself to be something great and gets a following of new players and then uses builds/strats that only work vs low level players so he doesn't really help at all
Yea that looks just like Kang Min... amazing game sense... and uses mind games well, but has the micro of a washed up progamer.
Chill
Profile Blog Joined January 2005
Calgary25980 Posts
June 17 2009 20:57 GMT
#80
On June 18 2009 05:17 disciple wrote:
well he screwed it up badly, but the year long flaming that Hot_Bid was talking about in the previous thread is just not necessary. I agree that the forgiveness must come later but think about it the other way. Sooner or later you will all become parents, and when your kids lie to you about smth which they eventually will do, you will most likely beat them, forbid them to watch tv for a week and thats it. If your so called love to the game and to fair play is so strong just focus on this and stop gangbanging ot combat-ex. Sure he did smth childish but you have no reason not to act mature yourself...

Combat-Ex was caught abusing two weeks ago. This is a year-long flaming.
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pyrogenetix
Profile Blog Joined March 2006
China5094 Posts
June 17 2009 21:03 GMT
#81
wow hollllyyyy shit i had no idea this little fucking noob had so many supporters hahaha how the fuck can he have 4 thousand subscribers on youtube? even I play better than him LOL
Yea that looks just like Kang Min... amazing game sense... and uses mind games well, but has the micro of a washed up progamer.
disciple
Profile Blog Joined January 2008
9070 Posts
June 17 2009 21:08 GMT
#82
On June 18 2009 05:57 Chill wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 18 2009 05:17 disciple wrote:
well he screwed it up badly, but the year long flaming that Hot_Bid was talking about in the previous thread is just not necessary. I agree that the forgiveness must come later but think about it the other way. Sooner or later you will all become parents, and when your kids lie to you about smth which they eventually will do, you will most likely beat them, forbid them to watch tv for a week and thats it. If your so called love to the game and to fair play is so strong just focus on this and stop gangbanging ot combat-ex. Sure he did smth childish but you have no reason not to act mature yourself...

Combat-Ex was caught abusing two weeks ago. This is a year-long flaming.

Well you cant stop him making his videos, but you can just ignore his efforts. Why are you wasting your time with him anyway? Your points make sense, everything you say is completely reasonable but still its just not necessary - hackers and abusers will always exist on every level even on competitive. I'm not defending him and not saying "just let him be". Ignore him and dont let him in your house, thats all imho. The community is too large to bother so much about a random guy (maybe combat-ex is not completely random but still) who is cheating since forever and uploading his videos on youtube.
What are you trying to achieve anyway? Combat-Ex is not welcome to TL anyway, so this must be done with some kind of educational purpose - "dont do like combat-ex, cause he is a fag and the gaming world must get rid of guys like him"? Believe me I'm with you on everything and I support hot_bid about everything he said, but putting the banner on the main page, even discussing this so inside out is just... an overkill imho. I dont think all this will help in anyway to clean the gaming from the hackers
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Etherone
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
United States1898 Posts
June 17 2009 21:15 GMT
#83
if only his user realized that the reason they went from d- to d+ was they were massing games and getting the mechanics down, not com-ex's "instructional videos"

In any sport cheating is an outrage, it is inexcusable, it undermines the sport, and it ridicules the community especially a community so heavily based on sportsmanship.

apology was crap, and is worthless until he actually does something, and even then it is still worthless because it is a half ass attempt at acting like the victim of an assault by TL, it also suggests that it is not such a bad, or so uncommon occurrence to ask a friend to give you 1 win for a few points to get to the next rank. He did it so he could play the martyr, keep all of his fans, rally them behind him, and seeing as he is mentally inept he might have even thought that this would help TL like him. He insults TL's intelligence and mine by association with that ridiculous piece of shit he calls an apology.

If he loves the game and supports the community, and isn't simply after some notion of E-fame, he will keep playing, without abusing, until enough time has passed that it is evident he has reformed his ways, and regrets his idiocy. unfortunately i don't see that happening, especially since he is unwilling to stream his games.
Chill
Profile Blog Joined January 2005
Calgary25980 Posts
June 17 2009 21:17 GMT
#84
On June 18 2009 06:08 disciple wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 18 2009 05:57 Chill wrote:
On June 18 2009 05:17 disciple wrote:
well he screwed it up badly, but the year long flaming that Hot_Bid was talking about in the previous thread is just not necessary. I agree that the forgiveness must come later but think about it the other way. Sooner or later you will all become parents, and when your kids lie to you about smth which they eventually will do, you will most likely beat them, forbid them to watch tv for a week and thats it. If your so called love to the game and to fair play is so strong just focus on this and stop gangbanging ot combat-ex. Sure he did smth childish but you have no reason not to act mature yourself...

Combat-Ex was caught abusing two weeks ago. This is a year-long flaming.

Well you cant stop him making his videos, but you can just ignore his efforts. Why are you wasting your time with him anyway? Your points make sense, everything you say is completely reasonable but still its just not necessary - hackers and abusers will always exist on every level even on competitive. I'm not defending him and not saying "just let him be". Ignore him and dont let him in your house, thats all imho. The community is too large to bother so much about a random guy (maybe combat-ex is not completely random but still) who is cheating since forever and uploading his videos on youtube.
What are you trying to achieve anyway? Combat-Ex is not welcome to TL anyway, so this must be done with some kind of educational purpose - "dont do like combat-ex, cause he is a fag and the gaming world must get rid of guys like him"? Believe me I'm with you on everything and I support hot_bid about everything he said, but putting the banner on the main page, even discussing this so inside out is just... an overkill imho. I dont think all this will help in anyway to clean the gaming from the hackers

You are saying if we stop hackers and abusers, more will fill their ranks. I think that's simply not true. If people realize he abuses to the level he says he is, then maybe they will realize his is not sound and will turn to better sources for information.
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VIB
Profile Blog Joined November 2007
Brazil3567 Posts
June 17 2009 21:17 GMT
#85
On June 18 2009 06:08 disciple wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 18 2009 05:57 Chill wrote:
On June 18 2009 05:17 disciple wrote:
well he screwed it up badly, but the year long flaming that Hot_Bid was talking about in the previous thread is just not necessary. I agree that the forgiveness must come later but think about it the other way. Sooner or later you will all become parents, and when your kids lie to you about smth which they eventually will do, you will most likely beat them, forbid them to watch tv for a week and thats it. If your so called love to the game and to fair play is so strong just focus on this and stop gangbanging ot combat-ex. Sure he did smth childish but you have no reason not to act mature yourself...

Combat-Ex was caught abusing two weeks ago. This is a year-long flaming.

Well you cant stop him making his videos, but you can just ignore his efforts. Why are you wasting your time with him anyway? Your points make sense, everything you say is completely reasonable but still its just not necessary - hackers and abusers will always exist on every level even on competitive. I'm not defending him and not saying "just let him be". Ignore him and dont let him in your house, thats all imho. The community is too large to bother so much about a random guy (maybe combat-ex is not completely random but still) who is cheating since forever and uploading his videos on youtube.
What are you trying to achieve anyway? Combat-Ex is not welcome to TL anyway, so this must be done with some kind of educational purpose - "dont do like combat-ex, cause he is a fag and the gaming world must get rid of guys like him"? Believe me I'm with you on everything and I support hot_bid about everything he said, but putting the banner on the main page, even discussing this so inside out is just... an overkill imho. I dont think all this will help in anyway to clean the gaming from the hackers
The path of the righteous man is beset on all sides by the inequities of the selfish and the tyranny of evil men. Blessed is he who, in the name of charity and good will, shepherds the weak through the valley of the darkness. For he is truly his brother's keeper and the finder of lost children. And I will strike down upon thee with great vengeance and furious anger those who attempt to poison and destroy my brothers. And you will know I am the Lord when I lay my vengeance upon you.

Ezekiel 25:17

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WhuazGoodJaggah
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
Lesotho777 Posts
June 17 2009 21:19 GMT
#86
On June 18 2009 05:32 Hot_Bid wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 18 2009 05:23 Megalisk wrote:
On June 18 2009 05:17 Hot_Bid wrote:
On June 18 2009 05:09 Megalisk wrote:
On June 18 2009 01:13 TheFoReveRwaR wrote:
On June 18 2009 00:54 Megalisk wrote:
On June 18 2009 00:45 Combat-EX wrote:
im not blaming anyone for what ive done...

and just to clear it up....i didn't post that ad, and i have no idea who did

this video is literally exactly what you guys have asked
and i made it...posted it on youtube for all my fans to see

if this doesn't make u guys happy,
i dont know what else i can do.


Thanks for the vid man, that's pretty brave, honestly, your vids are what got me into 1v1 starcraft instead of playing BGH/Fastest.

You have painfully low standards.

Cause I don't care about his little shenanigans, He just posts videos to help noobs and they do. He is a liar and he knows he isn't B-, but hes just giving some help.

Unfortunately, helping someone isn't a shield against criticism. For instance, OJ Simpson entertained millions of people with his skills as a running back in the National Football League. He then went on to murder two people. But I'm sure he helped people when he was a running back. This doesn't mean we can't say that his murders are wrong. Why are you supporting murder?

Except this isn't murder, its playing a fucking computer game.

Would you like me to provide an example that is less serious than murder, and we can debate which is more severe, abusing on ICCup or taking steroids in high school sports (he's helping the fans so i don't care!), or cheating in high school (he's helping his friends get better grades and get into college so i dont care!), etc.

But thank you for pointing out that taking freewins on a ladder is not actually killing someone, I was not aware of this difference when I made the analogy. I can't believe I didn't see that.


murdering a murder doesnt make the murder better at all.

if a fellow student is cheating you dont need to "blab" it to the teacher, you can just tell him that you dont like it if you really have the need to do so. I like never cheated in school but i didnt care if someone else did, why should i? its not like that this will change much anyway, but if he wrote his name under my work i'd fuck him up.
small dicks have great firepower
Barbapapa
Profile Joined June 2009
Sweden8 Posts
June 17 2009 21:21 GMT
#87
Ok

I have no idea why you are so freaking mad at combat-ex. He is a bad player... SO FUCKING WHAT? I feel so stupid that I listened to him at the first place. NO! He's fucking awesome at what he is doing, I'm not only learning from his videos, but it's mostly entertaining. And isn't that what matters? Well, I'm not gonna work as a SC player when I get older, so why does it fucking matter if he might be teaching me wrong. I think it's you who are only jealous at his great work of posting VODs. And I don't get the videos less entertaining, if he has abused.

You all seem to forget, that starcraft is used for entertainment.
SpiritoftheTunA
Profile Blog Joined August 2006
United States20903 Posts
June 17 2009 21:22 GMT
#88
On June 18 2009 06:17 VIB wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 18 2009 06:08 disciple wrote:
On June 18 2009 05:57 Chill wrote:
On June 18 2009 05:17 disciple wrote:
well he screwed it up badly, but the year long flaming that Hot_Bid was talking about in the previous thread is just not necessary. I agree that the forgiveness must come later but think about it the other way. Sooner or later you will all become parents, and when your kids lie to you about smth which they eventually will do, you will most likely beat them, forbid them to watch tv for a week and thats it. If your so called love to the game and to fair play is so strong just focus on this and stop gangbanging ot combat-ex. Sure he did smth childish but you have no reason not to act mature yourself...

Combat-Ex was caught abusing two weeks ago. This is a year-long flaming.

Well you cant stop him making his videos, but you can just ignore his efforts. Why are you wasting your time with him anyway? Your points make sense, everything you say is completely reasonable but still its just not necessary - hackers and abusers will always exist on every level even on competitive. I'm not defending him and not saying "just let him be". Ignore him and dont let him in your house, thats all imho. The community is too large to bother so much about a random guy (maybe combat-ex is not completely random but still) who is cheating since forever and uploading his videos on youtube.
What are you trying to achieve anyway? Combat-Ex is not welcome to TL anyway, so this must be done with some kind of educational purpose - "dont do like combat-ex, cause he is a fag and the gaming world must get rid of guys like him"? Believe me I'm with you on everything and I support hot_bid about everything he said, but putting the banner on the main page, even discussing this so inside out is just... an overkill imho. I dont think all this will help in anyway to clean the gaming from the hackers
The path of the righteous man is beset on all sides by the inequities of the selfish and the tyranny of evil men. Blessed is he who, in the name of charity and good will, shepherds the weak through the valley of the darkness. For he is truly his brother's keeper and the finder of lost children. And I will strike down upon thee with great vengeance and furious anger those who attempt to poison and destroy my brothers. And you will know I am the Lord when I lay my vengeance upon you.

Ezekiel 25:17

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fucken made up quotes
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VIB
Profile Blog Joined November 2007
Brazil3567 Posts
June 17 2009 21:25 GMT
#89
On June 18 2009 06:21 Barbapapa wrote:
Ok

I have no idea why you are so freaking mad at combat-ex. He is a bad player... SO FUCKING WHAT? I feel so stupid that I listened to him at the first place. NO! He's fucking awesome at what he is doing, I'm not only learning from his videos, but it's mostly entertaining. And isn't that what matters? Well, I'm not gonna work as a SC player when I get older, so why does it fucking matter if he might be teaching me wrong. I think it's you who are only jealous at his great work of posting VODs. And I don't get the videos less entertaining, if he has abused.

You all seem to forget, that starcraft is used for entertainment.
- You think he is teaching you and improving your skills
- He is not, he is bad, he is teaching you wrong
- If in all of his hundreds of videos all he have said was "if you wanna learn sc watch this vods from stylish and day9 etc" then he would have done 10000x a better good for the community
- Instead he rather teach crap to people only to make others think he is good
- He is fucking the community
- We care about the community

And I repeat myself:
+ Show Spoiler +
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CMnpu6rdabg
Great people talk about ideas. Average people talk about things. Small people talk about other people.
Avidkeystamper
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
United States8552 Posts
June 17 2009 21:36 GMT
#90
I don't think anyone's mad at him, people just don't like him because of the way he acts and presents himself to put it mildly.
To hate someone is not he same as getting mad about it, we're mostly mad at the people that supports his actions and try to justify or downplay it.
Jaedong
Barbapapa
Profile Joined June 2009
Sweden8 Posts
June 17 2009 21:39 GMT
#91
He is improving my skills a lot, you cannot deny that.

And you say he is fucking the community??? Then I must say you all got pretty owned.. (raped, ayye??)
Anyways, it's really retarded. If that statement is based on the fact that you said in your comment, that he would tell his viewers to watch stylish and day9 to learn starcraft - your brain must be really far up your ass.
nAi.PrOtOsS
Profile Blog Joined August 2007
Canada784 Posts
June 17 2009 21:40 GMT
#92
10 games abused he said on his apology vid? Yea IM SURE!!
KOFgokuon
Profile Blog Joined August 2004
United States14893 Posts
June 17 2009 21:41 GMT
#93
LOL
VIB
Profile Blog Joined November 2007
Brazil3567 Posts
June 17 2009 21:45 GMT
#94
On June 18 2009 06:39 Barbapapa wrote:
1) He is improving my skills a lot, you cannot deny that.

2) And you say he is fucking the community??? Then I must say you all got pretty owned.. (raped, ayye??)
3) your brain must be really far up your ass.
1) You think that. You could be much better watching decent players.
2) You're part of it
3) At least my fart is smart!
Great people talk about ideas. Average people talk about things. Small people talk about other people.
Barbapapa
Profile Joined June 2009
Sweden8 Posts
June 17 2009 21:55 GMT
#95
On June 18 2009 06:45 VIB wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 18 2009 06:39 Barbapapa wrote:
1) He is improving my skills a lot, you cannot deny that.

2) And you say he is fucking the community??? Then I must say you all got pretty owned.. (raped, ayye??)
3) your brain must be really far up your ass.
1) You think that. You could be much better watching decent players.
2) You're part of it
3) At least my fart is smart!

1) I don't believe that he is famous because he is a superawesome trainer, mostly because he has a much bigger sense humor than these other vod-posters.
2) Booo, I created this account 1 hour ago.
3) I guess...
MamiyaOtaru
Profile Blog Joined September 2008
United States1687 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-06-17 22:03:32
June 17 2009 21:58 GMT
#96
On June 18 2009 06:39 Barbapapa wrote:
He is improving my skills a lot, you cannot deny that.

And you say he is fucking the community??? Then I must say you all got pretty owned.. (raped, ayye??)
Anyways, it's really retarded. If that statement is based on the fact that you said in your comment, that he would tell his viewers to watch stylish and day9 to learn starcraft - your brain must be really far up your ass.

You are improving your own skills by playing.

Your skills would improve even more by watching a competent player.

Sure, someone might praise a tutor for raising a student's grade from failing to barely passing, but if there are better tutors out there who could raise the student's grade to above average, why would anyone use the first tutor? Because he has good advertisements? That's combatEx.

His students may not be failing, but they are still getting shortchanged. And then they keep coming here and being all proud of how combatEx has helped them not fail. "Now I'm getting Ds instead of Fs and it's all because of combatEx! He's a great tutor stop shitting on him!"
Zapdos_Smithh
Profile Blog Joined October 2008
Canada2620 Posts
June 17 2009 21:58 GMT
#97
Eh, I forgive him.
VIB
Profile Blog Joined November 2007
Brazil3567 Posts
June 17 2009 22:00 GMT
#98
On June 18 2009 06:55 Barbapapa wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 18 2009 06:45 VIB wrote:
On June 18 2009 06:39 Barbapapa wrote:
1) He is improving my skills a lot, you cannot deny that.

2) And you say he is fucking the community??? Then I must say you all got pretty owned.. (raped, ayye??)
3) your brain must be really far up your ass.
1) You think that. You could be much better watching decent players.
2) You're part of it
3) At least my fart is smart!

2) Booo, I created this account 1 hour ago.
The whole community of starcraft players. Not only this website. You're part of it, he is screwing you up. You just don't know it yet
Great people talk about ideas. Average people talk about things. Small people talk about other people.
ZeroCartin
Profile Blog Joined March 2008
Costa Rica2390 Posts
June 17 2009 22:04 GMT
#99
I remember one thread like 2 weeks ago where almost all TL asked combat-ex to post this really self embarrasing video in exchange for "forgiveness" for TL.

And now this bullshit is happening. WTF.

I remember a couple of years ago I started playing starcraft, and I couldnt find anything that could help me alot *apart from pro-gamers, but no actual commentating*. Then I found this guy that posted his games on youtube. I watched them weekly, and understood some of the really basic fundamentals of starcraft. I look at them now, and sure, there are alot of holes in his vids, but they still help beginners imo.

This is a community for learning on starcraft, not for bashing on people, at least not for 2 fkn years in a row, thats the time ive been here.
"My sister is on vacation in Costa Rica right now. I hope she stays a while because she's a miserable cunt." -pubbanana
Barbapapa
Profile Joined June 2009
Sweden8 Posts
June 17 2009 22:11 GMT
#100
On June 18 2009 06:58 MamiyaOtaru wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 18 2009 06:39 Barbapapa wrote:
He is improving my skills a lot, you cannot deny that.

And you say he is fucking the community??? Then I must say you all got pretty owned.. (raped, ayye??)
Anyways, it's really retarded. If that statement is based on the fact that you said in your comment, that he would tell his viewers to watch stylish and day9 to learn starcraft - your brain must be really far up your ass.

You are improving your own skills by playing.

Your skills would improve even more by watching a competent player.

Sure, someone might praise a tutor for raising a student's grade from failing to barely passing, but if there are better tutors out there who could raise the student's grade to above average, why would anyone use the first tutor? Because he has good advertisements? That's combatEx.

His students may not be failing, but they are still getting shortchanged. And then they keep coming here and being all proud of how combatEx has helped them not fail. "Now I'm getting Ds instead of Fs and it's all because of combatEx! He's a great tutor stop shitting on him!"


Dude...

Comparing Combat-ex and other Vod-posters is like comparing South Park with Fox-news. When I watch South Park, I watch it because it's entertaining, not because I learn stuff from it. And that is exactly why I rather watch Combat. Starcraft isn't science, IT IS ENTERTAINMENT!
Husky
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
United States3362 Posts
June 17 2009 22:14 GMT
#101
On June 18 2009 07:11 Barbapapa wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 18 2009 06:58 MamiyaOtaru wrote:
On June 18 2009 06:39 Barbapapa wrote:
He is improving my skills a lot, you cannot deny that.

And you say he is fucking the community??? Then I must say you all got pretty owned.. (raped, ayye??)
Anyways, it's really retarded. If that statement is based on the fact that you said in your comment, that he would tell his viewers to watch stylish and day9 to learn starcraft - your brain must be really far up your ass.

You are improving your own skills by playing.

Your skills would improve even more by watching a competent player.

Sure, someone might praise a tutor for raising a student's grade from failing to barely passing, but if there are better tutors out there who could raise the student's grade to above average, why would anyone use the first tutor? Because he has good advertisements? That's combatEx.

His students may not be failing, but they are still getting shortchanged. And then they keep coming here and being all proud of how combatEx has helped them not fail. "Now I'm getting Ds instead of Fs and it's all because of combatEx! He's a great tutor stop shitting on him!"


Dude...

Comparing Combat-ex and other Vod-posters is like comparing South Park with Fox-news. When I watch South Park, I watch it because it's entertaining, not because I learn stuff from it. And that is exactly why I rather watch Combat. Starcraft isn't science, IT IS ENTERTAINMENT!


Are you saying you watch FoxNews to learn stuff?

oh god
Commentaries: youtube.com/HuskyStarcraft
T.O.P. *
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
Hong Kong4685 Posts
June 17 2009 22:16 GMT
#102
I think this video is part of Combat-Ex's grand plan to make his 4000 subscribers to hate on TL. There will be more people like Barbapapa who will register just to defend Combat-Ex.
Oracle comes in, Scvs go down, never a miscommunication.
Chezinu
Profile Blog Joined February 2008
United States7447 Posts
June 17 2009 22:16 GMT
#103
here is the current banner:
[image loading]


It says "I'm kinda famous" when you put your mouse over it.
lol, clueless in The Prism!
Kau *
Profile Joined March 2007
Canada3500 Posts
June 17 2009 22:17 GMT
#104
On June 18 2009 07:11 Barbapapa wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 18 2009 06:58 MamiyaOtaru wrote:
On June 18 2009 06:39 Barbapapa wrote:
He is improving my skills a lot, you cannot deny that.

And you say he is fucking the community??? Then I must say you all got pretty owned.. (raped, ayye??)
Anyways, it's really retarded. If that statement is based on the fact that you said in your comment, that he would tell his viewers to watch stylish and day9 to learn starcraft - your brain must be really far up your ass.

You are improving your own skills by playing.

Your skills would improve even more by watching a competent player.

Sure, someone might praise a tutor for raising a student's grade from failing to barely passing, but if there are better tutors out there who could raise the student's grade to above average, why would anyone use the first tutor? Because he has good advertisements? That's combatEx.

His students may not be failing, but they are still getting shortchanged. And then they keep coming here and being all proud of how combatEx has helped them not fail. "Now I'm getting Ds instead of Fs and it's all because of combatEx! He's a great tutor stop shitting on him!"


Dude...

Comparing Combat-ex and other Vod-posters is like comparing South Park with Fox-news. When I watch South Park, I watch it because it's entertaining, not because I learn stuff from it. And that is exactly why I rather watch Combat. Starcraft isn't science, IT IS ENTERTAINMENT!


And here I thought the Korean proscene was where to go for Starcraft entertainment. I mean the players get paid to play a video game in front of a live audience! They play at a level higher than anyone else in the world!

Thank you for opening my eyes and showing me that true Starcraft entertainment is actually watching combat-ex play at a C- level against D- players!!!!!!!
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YPang
Profile Blog Joined April 2007
United States4024 Posts
June 17 2009 22:17 GMT
#105
On June 18 2009 07:16 Chezinu wrote:
here is the current banner:
[image loading]


It says "I'm kinda famous" when you put your mouse over it.


LOLOL
sMi.Gladstone | BW: B high| SC2: gold T_T
MamiyaOtaru
Profile Blog Joined September 2008
United States1687 Posts
June 17 2009 22:19 GMT
#106
On June 18 2009 07:11 Barbapapa wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 18 2009 06:58 MamiyaOtaru wrote:
On June 18 2009 06:39 Barbapapa wrote:
He is improving my skills a lot, you cannot deny that.

And you say he is fucking the community??? Then I must say you all got pretty owned.. (raped, ayye??)
Anyways, it's really retarded. If that statement is based on the fact that you said in your comment, that he would tell his viewers to watch stylish and day9 to learn starcraft - your brain must be really far up your ass.

You are improving your own skills by playing.

Your skills would improve even more by watching a competent player.

Sure, someone might praise a tutor for raising a student's grade from failing to barely passing, but if there are better tutors out there who could raise the student's grade to above average, why would anyone use the first tutor? Because he has good advertisements? That's combatEx.

His students may not be failing, but they are still getting shortchanged. And then they keep coming here and being all proud of how combatEx has helped them not fail. "Now I'm getting Ds instead of Fs and it's all because of combatEx! He's a great tutor stop shitting on him!"


Dude...

Comparing Combat-ex and other Vod-posters is like comparing South Park with Fox-news. When I watch South Park, I watch it because it's entertaining, not because I learn stuff from it. And that is exactly why I rather watch Combat. Starcraft isn't science, IT IS ENTERTAINMENT!

So that's what it's come to? You're standing up for him because he is entertaining? If he presented his videos as entertainment that would be great. But he acts like they are helpful. And newbs who don't know any better think they are. Anybody who watches him to get better is losing out. If you want entertainment that's great. But he's screwing anyone who watches to learn, and for someone who claims to be doing it to teach people, that's pretty crap.
Caller
Profile Blog Joined September 2007
Poland8075 Posts
June 17 2009 22:20 GMT
#107
whoever posted that banner
have my children
Watch me fail at Paradox: http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=397564
7mk
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
Germany10157 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-06-17 22:45:11
June 17 2009 22:42 GMT
#108
On June 18 2009 07:11 Barbapapa wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 18 2009 06:58 MamiyaOtaru wrote:
On June 18 2009 06:39 Barbapapa wrote:
He is improving my skills a lot, you cannot deny that.

And you say he is fucking the community??? Then I must say you all got pretty owned.. (raped, ayye??)
Anyways, it's really retarded. If that statement is based on the fact that you said in your comment, that he would tell his viewers to watch stylish and day9 to learn starcraft - your brain must be really far up your ass.

You are improving your own skills by playing.

Your skills would improve even more by watching a competent player.

Sure, someone might praise a tutor for raising a student's grade from failing to barely passing, but if there are better tutors out there who could raise the student's grade to above average, why would anyone use the first tutor? Because he has good advertisements? That's combatEx.

His students may not be failing, but they are still getting shortchanged. And then they keep coming here and being all proud of how combatEx has helped them not fail. "Now I'm getting Ds instead of Fs and it's all because of combatEx! He's a great tutor stop shitting on him!"


Dude...

Comparing Combat-ex and other Vod-posters is like comparing South Park with Fox-news. When I watch South Park, I watch it because it's entertaining, not because I learn stuff from it. And that is exactly why I rather watch Combat. Starcraft isn't science, IT IS ENTERTAINMENT!


Go watch games on gomtv.net with top pro gamers playing, commentated by tasteless and tell me combat-ex is more entertaining

And youre obviously disaggreeing with combat-ex himself, cause the main defense he has is that his vids are educational for noobs, not that he posts them just cuz they are entertaining


For all of those who are wondering why he has so many followers:
Go to youtube and type in "starcraft zvp"
now look at the results: it shows like 29 videos, 27 of them are combat-ex vids
you do the math

LOL I watched one of them:
+ Show Spoiler +


excellent example of why his vids are so bad, some excellent quotes:
"so even if youre like D, if you do this build, youre gonna beat me" (at least he admits hes bad)
"yeah if youre noob,do this build, I highly recommend this (3hatch all in speedling build)" .. yeah because as a noob you really improve the most if you practice nothing but cheese.
And of course a classic:
"this is most effective against.. aeh fuck, aeh, a forge fast expand build, basically a bisu build"
also quite nice how his opponent doesn't even try to scout after his first probe dies

beep boop
FragKrag
Profile Blog Joined September 2007
United States11552 Posts
June 17 2009 22:42 GMT
#109
On June 18 2009 07:16 Chezinu wrote:
here is the current banner:
[image loading]


It says "I'm kinda famous" when you put your mouse over it.


looool

i love whoever posted that banner.

I will buy adspace on TL too! :D
*TL CJ Entusman #40* "like scissors does anything to paper except MAKE IT MORE NUMEROUS" -paper
MorningMusume11
Profile Blog Joined November 2007
United States3490 Posts
June 17 2009 23:20 GMT
#110
On June 18 2009 07:42 7mk wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 18 2009 07:11 Barbapapa wrote:
On June 18 2009 06:58 MamiyaOtaru wrote:
On June 18 2009 06:39 Barbapapa wrote:
He is improving my skills a lot, you cannot deny that.

And you say he is fucking the community??? Then I must say you all got pretty owned.. (raped, ayye??)
Anyways, it's really retarded. If that statement is based on the fact that you said in your comment, that he would tell his viewers to watch stylish and day9 to learn starcraft - your brain must be really far up your ass.

You are improving your own skills by playing.

Your skills would improve even more by watching a competent player.

Sure, someone might praise a tutor for raising a student's grade from failing to barely passing, but if there are better tutors out there who could raise the student's grade to above average, why would anyone use the first tutor? Because he has good advertisements? That's combatEx.

His students may not be failing, but they are still getting shortchanged. And then they keep coming here and being all proud of how combatEx has helped them not fail. "Now I'm getting Ds instead of Fs and it's all because of combatEx! He's a great tutor stop shitting on him!"


Dude...

Comparing Combat-ex and other Vod-posters is like comparing South Park with Fox-news. When I watch South Park, I watch it because it's entertaining, not because I learn stuff from it. And that is exactly why I rather watch Combat. Starcraft isn't science, IT IS ENTERTAINMENT!


Go watch games on gomtv.net with top pro gamers playing, commentated by tasteless and tell me combat-ex is more entertaining

And youre obviously disaggreeing with combat-ex himself, cause the main defense he has is that his vids are educational for noobs, not that he posts them just cuz they are entertaining


For all of those who are wondering why he has so many followers:
Go to youtube and type in "starcraft zvp"
now look at the results: it shows like 29 videos, 27 of them are combat-ex vids
you do the math

LOL I watched one of them:
+ Show Spoiler +

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=thJs3PJOEDA

excellent example of why his vids are so bad, some excellent quotes:
"so even if youre like D, if you do this build, youre gonna beat me" (at least he admits hes bad)
"yeah if youre noob,do this build, I highly recommend this (3hatch all in speedling build)" .. yeah because as a noob you really improve the most if you practice nothing but cheese.
And of course a classic:
"this is most effective against.. aeh fuck, aeh, a forge fast expand build, basically a bisu build"
also quite nice how his opponent doesn't even try to scout after his first probe dies



That vod was funny in a bad way =P
Sentenal
Profile Blog Joined December 2007
United States12398 Posts
June 17 2009 23:50 GMT
#111
People don't hate Combat for "Helping noobs". I mean, wtf, why would people hate him for that? People hate him for a few reasons:

1.) He "teaches" bad playing habits, and then makes the noob think what they are doing is good. People who actually want noobs to get better obviously would take issue with that. People like day9, or stylish, or Nony's old FPVODs, are much more helpful to newbs. Since they actually teach good playing habits.

2.) He abused. Aka cheated. That is the MAIN reason people hate him. Abusers are just one step down from hackers, in terms of how much hate they should get. If he starts play legit, he will get much less hate. Just because he "helps" noobs (see above), doesn't excuse him from cheating in a competive game, spitting in the face of all the other people who play legit. And he probably abused wayyyyy more than what he admitted to in his apology vid.

3.) I guess how he presents himself is another reason. He acts like he is a very good player, and when very good players see that, they are like "wtf, this kid sucks, how can he act like hes so good?" His videos aren't meant for people like that, but that doesn't mean they won't/can't watch them. Needs more humble imo.
"Apparently, Sentenal is a paragon of friendship and tolerance. " - Ech0ne
Dgtl
Profile Blog Joined December 2008
Canada889 Posts
June 17 2009 23:58 GMT
#112
I guarantee you that if you watch these vids it will make you 1000x better than combatEX would






Nony gives really good tips in these games :O
^______________^
floor exercise
Profile Blog Joined August 2008
Canada5847 Posts
June 18 2009 00:01 GMT
#113
gimpygimpy
Profile Joined November 2008
United States8 Posts
June 18 2009 00:14 GMT
#114
I smell jealousy and self-righteousness.

"Oh, I just CANNOT BELIEVE that someone would sink SO LOW as to pad their stats.....DISGUSTING!!! I am SO revolted. I am as pure as the wind-driven snow. I am sooooooo relieved that I am better than this pig with 4,604 loyal subscribers...."
YPang
Profile Blog Joined April 2007
United States4024 Posts
June 18 2009 00:15 GMT
#115
On June 18 2009 09:01 floor exercise wrote:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8kSEB9_2H5I

LOLOL its so much funnier in chinese.
sMi.Gladstone | BW: B high| SC2: gold T_T
Sentenal
Profile Blog Joined December 2007
United States12398 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-06-18 00:21:24
June 18 2009 00:20 GMT
#116
On June 18 2009 09:14 gimpygimpy wrote:
I smell jealousy and self-righteousness.

"Oh, I just CANNOT BELIEVE that someone would sink SO LOW as to pad their stats.....DISGUSTING!!! I am SO revolted. I am as pure as the wind-driven snow. I am sooooooo relieved that I am better than this pig with 4,604 loyal subscribers...."

lol

Yeah, I guess abusing a ladder, when 99% of everyone else who plays it does it legit, isn't that bad at all. Those people working hard at getting better/improving their rank are just dumb, they should abuse too!

edit: holy shit, how long have I been a dragoon...?
"Apparently, Sentenal is a paragon of friendship and tolerance. " - Ech0ne
Harem
Profile Joined November 2007
United States11390 Posts
June 18 2009 00:22 GMT
#117
On June 18 2009 09:20 Sentenal wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 18 2009 09:14 gimpygimpy wrote:
I smell jealousy and self-righteousness.

"Oh, I just CANNOT BELIEVE that someone would sink SO LOW as to pad their stats.....DISGUSTING!!! I am SO revolted. I am as pure as the wind-driven snow. I am sooooooo relieved that I am better than this pig with 4,604 loyal subscribers...."

lol

Yeah, I guess abusing a ladder, when 99% of everyone else who plays it does it legit, isn't that bad at all. Those people working hard at getting better/improving their rank are just dumb, they should abuse too!

edit: holy shit, how long have I been a dragoon...?

For about 3 posts, you nub.
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Sentenal
Profile Blog Joined December 2007
United States12398 Posts
June 18 2009 00:25 GMT
#118
On June 18 2009 09:22 Harem wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 18 2009 09:20 Sentenal wrote:
On June 18 2009 09:14 gimpygimpy wrote:
I smell jealousy and self-righteousness.

"Oh, I just CANNOT BELIEVE that someone would sink SO LOW as to pad their stats.....DISGUSTING!!! I am SO revolted. I am as pure as the wind-driven snow. I am sooooooo relieved that I am better than this pig with 4,604 loyal subscribers...."

lol

Yeah, I guess abusing a ladder, when 99% of everyone else who plays it does it legit, isn't that bad at all. Those people working hard at getting better/improving their rank are just dumb, they should abuse too!

edit: holy shit, how long have I been a dragoon...?

For about 3 posts, you nub.

My dragoon would beat the shit out of your ling, HarmtaroAdun.
"Apparently, Sentenal is a paragon of friendship and tolerance. " - Ech0ne
7mk
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
Germany10157 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-06-18 00:30:48
June 18 2009 00:29 GMT
#119
On June 18 2009 09:14 gimpygimpy wrote:
I smell jealousy and self-righteousness.

"Oh, I just CANNOT BELIEVE that someone would sink SO LOW as to pad their stats.....DISGUSTING!!! I am SO revolted. I am as pure as the wind-driven snow. I am sooooooo relieved that I am better than this pig with 4,604 loyal subscribers...."


lol youre hilarious

fuck man I think a whole lot of combat-ex fans have just now found out that teamliquid exists

On June 18 2009 09:25 Sentenal wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 18 2009 09:22 Harem wrote:
On June 18 2009 09:20 Sentenal wrote:
On June 18 2009 09:14 gimpygimpy wrote:
I smell jealousy and self-righteousness.

"Oh, I just CANNOT BELIEVE that someone would sink SO LOW as to pad their stats.....DISGUSTING!!! I am SO revolted. I am as pure as the wind-driven snow. I am sooooooo relieved that I am better than this pig with 4,604 loyal subscribers...."

lol

Yeah, I guess abusing a ladder, when 99% of everyone else who plays it does it legit, isn't that bad at all. Those people working hard at getting better/improving their rank are just dumb, they should abuse too!

edit: holy shit, how long have I been a dragoon...?

For about 3 posts, you nub.

My dragoon would beat the shit out of your ling, HarmtaroAdun.


pft I dont think goons are very effective against lings
beep boop
lIlIlIlIlIlI
Profile Blog Joined October 2004
Korea (South)3851 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-06-18 00:32:11
June 18 2009 00:31 GMT
#120
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7mk
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
Germany10157 Posts
June 18 2009 00:47 GMT
#121
On June 18 2009 09:31 randomKo_Orean wrote:
I 'd like to volunteer for a Bo7 Showmatch. If y'all don't mind of course.


I don't think we just wanna send some random korean
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Avidkeystamper
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
United States8552 Posts
June 18 2009 00:53 GMT
#122
On June 18 2009 09:25 Sentenal wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 18 2009 09:22 Harem wrote:
On June 18 2009 09:20 Sentenal wrote:
On June 18 2009 09:14 gimpygimpy wrote:
I smell jealousy and self-righteousness.

"Oh, I just CANNOT BELIEVE that someone would sink SO LOW as to pad their stats.....DISGUSTING!!! I am SO revolted. I am as pure as the wind-driven snow. I am sooooooo relieved that I am better than this pig with 4,604 loyal subscribers...."

lol

Yeah, I guess abusing a ladder, when 99% of everyone else who plays it does it legit, isn't that bad at all. Those people working hard at getting better/improving their rank are just dumb, they should abuse too!

edit: holy shit, how long have I been a dragoon...?

For about 3 posts, you nub.

My dragoon would beat the shit out of your ling, HarmtaroAdun.

My devourer will pwn the...wait, =[ At least I have armour and am a bitch to kill =]
Jaedong
7mk
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
Germany10157 Posts
June 18 2009 01:03 GMT
#123
On June 18 2009 09:53 Avidkeystamper wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 18 2009 09:25 Sentenal wrote:
On June 18 2009 09:22 Harem wrote:
On June 18 2009 09:20 Sentenal wrote:
On June 18 2009 09:14 gimpygimpy wrote:
I smell jealousy and self-righteousness.

"Oh, I just CANNOT BELIEVE that someone would sink SO LOW as to pad their stats.....DISGUSTING!!! I am SO revolted. I am as pure as the wind-driven snow. I am sooooooo relieved that I am better than this pig with 4,604 loyal subscribers...."

lol

Yeah, I guess abusing a ladder, when 99% of everyone else who plays it does it legit, isn't that bad at all. Those people working hard at getting better/improving their rank are just dumb, they should abuse too!

edit: holy shit, how long have I been a dragoon...?

For about 3 posts, you nub.

My dragoon would beat the shit out of your ling, HarmtaroAdun.

My devourer will pwn the...wait, =[ At least I have armour and am a bitch to kill =]


just wait for Sentenal to become a corsair, then your time will have come
beep boop
gettodaroflchoppa
Profile Joined May 2009
104 Posts
June 18 2009 01:11 GMT
#124
devourer > sair...
Sentenal
Profile Blog Joined December 2007
United States12398 Posts
June 18 2009 01:24 GMT
#125
On June 18 2009 10:03 7mk wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 18 2009 09:53 Avidkeystamper wrote:
On June 18 2009 09:25 Sentenal wrote:
On June 18 2009 09:22 Harem wrote:
On June 18 2009 09:20 Sentenal wrote:
On June 18 2009 09:14 gimpygimpy wrote:
I smell jealousy and self-righteousness.

"Oh, I just CANNOT BELIEVE that someone would sink SO LOW as to pad their stats.....DISGUSTING!!! I am SO revolted. I am as pure as the wind-driven snow. I am sooooooo relieved that I am better than this pig with 4,604 loyal subscribers...."

lol

Yeah, I guess abusing a ladder, when 99% of everyone else who plays it does it legit, isn't that bad at all. Those people working hard at getting better/improving their rank are just dumb, they should abuse too!

edit: holy shit, how long have I been a dragoon...?

For about 3 posts, you nub.

My dragoon would beat the shit out of your ling, HarmtaroAdun.

My devourer will pwn the...wait, =[ At least I have armour and am a bitch to kill =]


just wait for Sentenal to become a corsair, then your time will have come

Maybe he will be an Ultralisk or something by that time.
"Apparently, Sentenal is a paragon of friendship and tolerance. " - Ech0ne
Avidkeystamper
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
United States8552 Posts
June 18 2009 01:26 GMT
#126
The mods will probably get me stuck as a zergling since I post too much. Why is there no scourge though? That'd be badass.
+ Show Spoiler +
I'm kidding don't do this please, the first part anyways.
Jaedong
Harem
Profile Joined November 2007
United States11390 Posts
June 18 2009 01:39 GMT
#127
On June 18 2009 10:26 Avidkeystamper wrote:
The mods will probably get me stuck as a zergling since I post too much. Why is there no scourge though? That'd be badass.
+ Show Spoiler +
I'm kidding don't do this please, the first part anyways.

Zergling is the best icon anyways.
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skronch
Profile Blog Joined December 2008
United States2717 Posts
June 18 2009 01:41 GMT
#128
On June 18 2009 07:11 Barbapapa wrote:Comparing Combat-ex and other Vod-posters is like comparing South Park with Fox-news.
you're right. both combat-ex and fox-news spew self-indulgant, mindless shit.
tiffany
Profile Joined November 2003
3664 Posts
June 18 2009 01:53 GMT
#129
On June 18 2009 08:50 Sentenal wrote:
People don't hate Combat for "Helping noobs". I mean, wtf, why would people hate him for that? People hate him for a few reasons:

1.) He "teaches" bad playing habits, and then makes the noob think what they are doing is good. People who actually want noobs to get better obviously would take issue with that. People like day9, or stylish, or Nony's old FPVODs, are much more helpful to newbs. Since they actually teach good playing habits.

2.) He abused. Aka cheated. That is the MAIN reason people hate him. Abusers are just one step down from hackers, in terms of how much hate they should get. If he starts play legit, he will get much less hate. Just because he "helps" noobs (see above), doesn't excuse him from cheating in a competive game, spitting in the face of all the other people who play legit. And he probably abused wayyyyy more than what he admitted to in his apology vid.

3.) I guess how he presents himself is another reason. He acts like he is a very good player, and when very good players see that, they are like "wtf, this kid sucks, how can he act like hes so good?" His videos aren't meant for people like that, but that doesn't mean they won't/can't watch them. Needs more humble imo.

4.) he asks for donations in his videos. isn't this violating some youtube EULA?
Hot_Bid
Profile Blog Joined October 2003
Braavos36374 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-06-18 02:02:47
June 18 2009 02:01 GMT
#130
On June 18 2009 06:08 disciple wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 18 2009 05:57 Chill wrote:
On June 18 2009 05:17 disciple wrote:
well he screwed it up badly, but the year long flaming that Hot_Bid was talking about in the previous thread is just not necessary. I agree that the forgiveness must come later but think about it the other way. Sooner or later you will all become parents, and when your kids lie to you about smth which they eventually will do, you will most likely beat them, forbid them to watch tv for a week and thats it. If your so called love to the game and to fair play is so strong just focus on this and stop gangbanging ot combat-ex. Sure he did smth childish but you have no reason not to act mature yourself...

Combat-Ex was caught abusing two weeks ago. This is a year-long flaming.

Well you cant stop him making his videos, but you can just ignore his efforts. Why are you wasting your time with him anyway? Your points make sense, everything you say is completely reasonable but still its just not necessary - hackers and abusers will always exist on every level even on competitive. I'm not defending him and not saying "just let him be". Ignore him and dont let him in your house, thats all imho. The community is too large to bother so much about a random guy (maybe combat-ex is not completely random but still) who is cheating since forever and uploading his videos on youtube.
What are you trying to achieve anyway? Combat-Ex is not welcome to TL anyway, so this must be done with some kind of educational purpose - "dont do like combat-ex, cause he is a fag and the gaming world must get rid of guys like him"? Believe me I'm with you on everything and I support hot_bid about everything he said, but putting the banner on the main page, even discussing this so inside out is just... an overkill imho. I dont think all this will help in anyway to clean the gaming from the hackers

Who are you to say what is a waste of time for us? We can decide what is productive and what is not. It is not up to you to decide whether the community is "too large to bother with him". That is the community's collective decision, not yours. If you want to ignore him that's fine, don't talk about him or click any of the threads. But I think we can decide for ourselves if we want to make fun of an idiot cheater or not.

You make it seem like we're seeking him out to talk about him, but really we're just doing it on our own forum. Is it really that horrible to make fun of an abuser on a community forum? Everything doesn't need to be necessary or educational. We don't like abusers and people with huge, unjustified egos. We like making fun of them. This public bashing is basically the only recourse and punishment we have against hackers and abusers. Do you really need to judge us and tell us we're wasting our time?

PS anyone can buy the adspace, it's not an official TL banner

PPS we're not trying to force him to stop making videos, we are just talking about the drama / stupidity / abuse
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7mk
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
Germany10157 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-06-18 02:44:01
June 18 2009 02:41 GMT
#131
thats why I'm 30 secords away from a great ringtone deal/offer -_-




On June 18 2009 10:39 Harem wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 18 2009 10:26 Avidkeystamper wrote:
The mods will probably get me stuck as a zergling since I post too much. Why is there no scourge though? That'd be badass.
+ Show Spoiler +
I'm kidding don't do this please, the first part anyways.

Zergling is the best icon anyways.

Well its certainly better than a freaking queen for example
what are you gonna do then... ensnare people so they dont post as fast ..
beep boop
7mk
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
Germany10157 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-06-18 02:43:05
June 18 2009 02:42 GMT
#132
fuck I always do double posts when its really late :/
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MamiyaOtaru
Profile Blog Joined September 2008
United States1687 Posts
June 18 2009 03:03 GMT
#133
On June 18 2009 09:14 gimpygimpy wrote:
I smell jealousy and self-righteousness.

"Oh, I just CANNOT BELIEVE that someone would sink SO LOW as to pad their stats.....DISGUSTING!!! I am SO revolted. I am as pure as the wind-driven snow. I am sooooooo relieved that I am better than this pig with 4,604 loyal subscribers...."

So wait, having 4,602 loyal subscribers means he's beyond reproach? You must worship Britney Spears then, she has 159,740 subscribers. Dunno if they are loyal though...

Seriously though, why would you bring that up? Having all those subscribers is part of why people are pissed off, and no, it's not jealousy. It's because those thousands of people think they are learning something (other than bad habits) when they are not. Those thousands of people are there because a fraud is good at misrepresenting himself.

If Anonymous dislikes David Miscavige it's not because Anonymous is jealous that David has thousands of followers. It's because Anonymous is pissed that thousands of people have been suckered into Scientology. Might Scientology help some people? Possibly. But not as much as real medicine or psychology.

People like Nony and Day9 are real doctors and psychologists. CombatEx is David Miscavige. What you are seeing here is not jealousy. It's poeple sick of a fraud duping gullible twits and said twits coming here to tell us how we are jealous of the great leader.
lIlIlIlIlIlI
Profile Blog Joined October 2004
Korea (South)3851 Posts
June 18 2009 03:17 GMT
#134
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stanley_
Profile Blog Joined December 2007
United States816 Posts
June 18 2009 03:25 GMT
#135
my friend's clanmate played combat in a bo 3 and won 2-1 and combat uploaded that 1 win in the bo 3.

that's the main reason i dislike this guy just shady stuff.
hoorah
illu
Profile Blog Joined December 2008
Canada2531 Posts
June 18 2009 03:52 GMT
#136
I watched some of his commentaries the only aspiring part about it seemed to be the swearing and the f-word.
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VIB
Profile Blog Joined November 2007
Brazil3567 Posts
June 18 2009 03:59 GMT
#137
On June 18 2009 12:25 stanley_ wrote:
my friend's clanmate played combat in a bo 3 and won 2-1 and combat uploaded that 1 win in the bo 3.

that's the main reason i dislike this guy just shady stuff.
lmao that is awesome ^^

IMHO Dishonesty is genetic. You're born with it, you cannot learn to be honest through experience. This Combat guy is incorrigible no matter what we do.

So all in all, the most productive thing left for us to do. Is make fun of him. Because that guy is a joke gold mine.
Great people talk about ideas. Average people talk about things. Small people talk about other people.
AlwaysGG
Profile Joined March 2009
Taiwan952 Posts
June 18 2009 05:08 GMT
#138
lol wow the never ending hatred of combatex.

actually i knew he is not a real deal all along by just watch a few of his fpvod then i stopped
it is really funny...

idk what to said i feel sry for the guy but then again hey,,, 可憐之人必有可誤之處so i dont really feel that sorry for him. because he deserve it.

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gimpygimpy
Profile Joined November 2008
United States8 Posts
June 18 2009 05:38 GMT
#139
On June 18 2009 12:03 MamiyaOtaru wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 18 2009 09:14 gimpygimpy wrote:
I smell jealousy and self-righteousness.

"Oh, I just CANNOT BELIEVE that someone would sink SO LOW as to pad their stats.....DISGUSTING!!! I am SO revolted. I am as pure as the wind-driven snow. I am sooooooo relieved that I am better than this pig with 4,604 loyal subscribers...."

So wait, having 4,602 loyal subscribers means he's beyond reproach? You must worship Britney Spears then, she has 159,740 subscribers. Dunno if they are loyal though...

Seriously though, why would you bring that up? Having all those subscribers is part of why people are pissed off, and no, it's not jealousy. It's because those thousands of people think they are learning something (other than bad habits) when they are not. Those thousands of people are there because a fraud is good at misrepresenting himself.

If Anonymous dislikes David Miscavige it's not because Anonymous is jealous that David has thousands of followers. It's because Anonymous is pissed that thousands of people have been suckered into Scientology. Might Scientology help some people? Possibly. But not as much as real medicine or psychology.

People like Nony and Day9 are real doctors and psychologists. CombatEx is David Miscavige. What you are seeing here is not jealousy. It's poeple sick of a fraud duping gullible twits and said twits coming here to tell us how we are jealous of the great leader.



Jealous
gimpygimpy
Profile Joined November 2008
United States8 Posts
June 18 2009 05:39 GMT
#140
On June 18 2009 14:08 AlwaysGG wrote:
lol wow the never ending hatred of combatex.

actually i knew he is not a real deal all along by just watch a few of his fpvod then i stopped
it is really funny...

idk what to said i feel sry for the guy but then again hey,,, 可憐之人必有可誤之處so i dont really feel that sorry for him. because he deserve it.




Self Righteous
gimpygimpy
Profile Joined November 2008
United States8 Posts
June 18 2009 05:39 GMT
#141
On June 18 2009 12:59 VIB wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 18 2009 12:25 stanley_ wrote:
my friend's clanmate played combat in a bo 3 and won 2-1 and combat uploaded that 1 win in the bo 3.

that's the main reason i dislike this guy just shady stuff.
lmao that is awesome ^^

IMHO Dishonesty is genetic. You're born with it, you cannot learn to be honest through experience. This Combat guy is incorrigible no matter what we do.

So all in all, the most productive thing left for us to do. Is make fun of him. Because that guy is a joke gold mine.



Self Righteous
gimpygimpy
Profile Joined November 2008
United States8 Posts
June 18 2009 05:40 GMT
#142
On June 18 2009 10:41 skronch wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 18 2009 07:11 Barbapapa wrote:Comparing Combat-ex and other Vod-posters is like comparing South Park with Fox-news.
you're right. both combat-ex and fox-news spew self-indulgant, mindless shit.


Confused
gimpygimpy
Profile Joined November 2008
United States8 Posts
June 18 2009 05:41 GMT
#143
On June 18 2009 11:01 Hot_Bid wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 18 2009 06:08 disciple wrote:
On June 18 2009 05:57 Chill wrote:
On June 18 2009 05:17 disciple wrote:
well he screwed it up badly, but the year long flaming that Hot_Bid was talking about in the previous thread is just not necessary. I agree that the forgiveness must come later but think about it the other way. Sooner or later you will all become parents, and when your kids lie to you about smth which they eventually will do, you will most likely beat them, forbid them to watch tv for a week and thats it. If your so called love to the game and to fair play is so strong just focus on this and stop gangbanging ot combat-ex. Sure he did smth childish but you have no reason not to act mature yourself...

Combat-Ex was caught abusing two weeks ago. This is a year-long flaming.

Well you cant stop him making his videos, but you can just ignore his efforts. Why are you wasting your time with him anyway? Your points make sense, everything you say is completely reasonable but still its just not necessary - hackers and abusers will always exist on every level even on competitive. I'm not defending him and not saying "just let him be". Ignore him and dont let him in your house, thats all imho. The community is too large to bother so much about a random guy (maybe combat-ex is not completely random but still) who is cheating since forever and uploading his videos on youtube.
What are you trying to achieve anyway? Combat-Ex is not welcome to TL anyway, so this must be done with some kind of educational purpose - "dont do like combat-ex, cause he is a fag and the gaming world must get rid of guys like him"? Believe me I'm with you on everything and I support hot_bid about everything he said, but putting the banner on the main page, even discussing this so inside out is just... an overkill imho. I dont think all this will help in anyway to clean the gaming from the hackers

Who are you to say what is a waste of time for us? We can decide what is productive and what is not. It is not up to you to decide whether the community is "too large to bother with him". That is the community's collective decision, not yours. If you want to ignore him that's fine, don't talk about him or click any of the threads. But I think we can decide for ourselves if we want to make fun of an idiot cheater or not.

You make it seem like we're seeking him out to talk about him, but really we're just doing it on our own forum. Is it really that horrible to make fun of an abuser on a community forum? Everything doesn't need to be necessary or educational. We don't like abusers and people with huge, unjustified egos. We like making fun of them. This public bashing is basically the only recourse and punishment we have against hackers and abusers. Do you really need to judge us and tell us we're wasting our time?

PS anyone can buy the adspace, it's not an official TL banner

PPS we're not trying to force him to stop making videos, we are just talking about the drama / stupidity / abuse



Combat Obsessed
evanthebouncy!
Profile Blog Joined June 2006
United States12796 Posts
June 18 2009 05:45 GMT
#144
On June 18 2009 02:49 AoN.DimSum wrote:
haha read the youtube comments in the apology video. Everyone is bashing tlnet now.


So you see TL's problem? We coop ourselves up in our little bubble while COmbat probably has somehow 12341312312 fanboys.
In a way he's more successful than the most of us in that people actually like him and he does inspire people to play low money. Yes he's pathetic in asking for wins, but again, he's trying to give helps, and regardless of the qualities, they are of use if you've never played low level before.
Personally, stepping on a person who's already been down makes you a coward, it takes balls to challenge people who's been in high positions, but once he's down, throwing stones after him is just like playing D- ranks on Iccup, and makes you no better than Combat.
So please think about it before jumping the bandwagon
Life is run, it is dance, it is fast, passionate and BAM!, you dance and sing and booze while you can for now is the time and time is mine. Smile and laugh when still can for now is the time and soon you die!
gimpygimpy
Profile Joined November 2008
United States8 Posts
June 18 2009 05:49 GMT
#145
On June 18 2009 14:45 evanthebouncy! wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 18 2009 02:49 AoN.DimSum wrote:
haha read the youtube comments in the apology video. Everyone is bashing tlnet now.


So you see TL's problem? We coop ourselves up in our little bubble while COmbat probably has somehow 12341312312 fanboys.
In a way he's more successful than the most of us in that people actually like him and he does inspire people to play low money. Yes he's pathetic in asking for wins, but again, he's trying to give helps, and regardless of the qualities, they are of use if you've never played low level before.
Personally, stepping on a person who's already been down makes you a coward, it takes balls to challenge people who's been in high positions, but once he's down, throwing stones after him is just like playing D- ranks on Iccup, and makes you no better than Combat.
So please think about it before jumping the bandwagon



Gets it
gettodaroflchoppa
Profile Joined May 2009
104 Posts
June 18 2009 06:07 GMT
#146
On June 18 2009 14:38 gimpygimpy wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 18 2009 12:03 MamiyaOtaru wrote:
On June 18 2009 09:14 gimpygimpy wrote:
I smell jealousy and self-righteousness.

"Oh, I just CANNOT BELIEVE that someone would sink SO LOW as to pad their stats.....DISGUSTING!!! I am SO revolted. I am as pure as the wind-driven snow. I am sooooooo relieved that I am better than this pig with 4,604 loyal subscribers...."

So wait, having 4,602 loyal subscribers means he's beyond reproach? You must worship Britney Spears then, she has 159,740 subscribers. Dunno if they are loyal though...

Seriously though, why would you bring that up? Having all those subscribers is part of why people are pissed off, and no, it's not jealousy. It's because those thousands of people think they are learning something (other than bad habits) when they are not. Those thousands of people are there because a fraud is good at misrepresenting himself.

If Anonymous dislikes David Miscavige it's not because Anonymous is jealous that David has thousands of followers. It's because Anonymous is pissed that thousands of people have been suckered into Scientology. Might Scientology help some people? Possibly. But not as much as real medicine or psychology.

People like Nony and Day9 are real doctors and psychologists. CombatEx is David Miscavige. What you are seeing here is not jealousy. It's poeple sick of a fraud duping gullible twits and said twits coming here to tell us how we are jealous of the great leader.



Jealous


On June 18 2009 14:39 gimpygimpy wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 18 2009 14:08 AlwaysGG wrote:
lol wow the never ending hatred of combatex.

actually i knew he is not a real deal all along by just watch a few of his fpvod then i stopped
it is really funny...

idk what to said i feel sry for the guy but then again hey,,, 可憐之人必有可誤之處so i dont really feel that sorry for him. because he deserve it.



Self Righteous


On June 18 2009 14:39 gimpygimpy wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 18 2009 12:59 VIB wrote:
On June 18 2009 12:25 stanley_ wrote:
my friend's clanmate played combat in a bo 3 and won 2-1 and combat uploaded that 1 win in the bo 3.

that's the main reason i dislike this guy just shady stuff.
lmao that is awesome ^^

IMHO Dishonesty is genetic. You're born with it, you cannot learn to be honest through experience. This Combat guy is incorrigible no matter what we do.

So all in all, the most productive thing left for us to do. Is make fun of him. Because that guy is a joke gold mine.


Self Righteous


On June 18 2009 14:40 gimpygimpy wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 18 2009 10:41 skronch wrote:
On June 18 2009 07:11 Barbapapa wrote:Comparing Combat-ex and other Vod-posters is like comparing South Park with Fox-news.
you're right. both combat-ex and fox-news spew self-indulgant, mindless shit.


Confused

On June 18 2009 14:41 gimpygimpy wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 18 2009 11:01 Hot_Bid wrote:
On June 18 2009 06:08 disciple wrote:
On June 18 2009 05:57 Chill wrote:
On June 18 2009 05:17 disciple wrote:
well he screwed it up badly, but the year long flaming that Hot_Bid was talking about in the previous thread is just not necessary. I agree that the forgiveness must come later but think about it the other way. Sooner or later you will all become parents, and when your kids lie to you about smth which they eventually will do, you will most likely beat them, forbid them to watch tv for a week and thats it. If your so called love to the game and to fair play is so strong just focus on this and stop gangbanging ot combat-ex. Sure he did smth childish but you have no reason not to act mature yourself...

Combat-Ex was caught abusing two weeks ago. This is a year-long flaming.

Well you cant stop him making his videos, but you can just ignore his efforts. Why are you wasting your time with him anyway? Your points make sense, everything you say is completely reasonable but still its just not necessary - hackers and abusers will always exist on every level even on competitive. I'm not defending him and not saying "just let him be". Ignore him and dont let him in your house, thats all imho. The community is too large to bother so much about a random guy (maybe combat-ex is not completely random but still) who is cheating since forever and uploading his videos on youtube.
What are you trying to achieve anyway? Combat-Ex is not welcome to TL anyway, so this must be done with some kind of educational purpose - "dont do like combat-ex, cause he is a fag and the gaming world must get rid of guys like him"? Believe me I'm with you on everything and I support hot_bid about everything he said, but putting the banner on the main page, even discussing this so inside out is just... an overkill imho. I dont think all this will help in anyway to clean the gaming from the hackers

Who are you to say what is a waste of time for us? We can decide what is productive and what is not. It is not up to you to decide whether the community is "too large to bother with him". That is the community's collective decision, not yours. If you want to ignore him that's fine, don't talk about him or click any of the threads. But I think we can decide for ourselves if we want to make fun of an idiot cheater or not.

You make it seem like we're seeking him out to talk about him, but really we're just doing it on our own forum. Is it really that horrible to make fun of an abuser on a community forum? Everything doesn't need to be necessary or educational. We don't like abusers and people with huge, unjustified egos. We like making fun of them. This public bashing is basically the only recourse and punishment we have against hackers and abusers. Do you really need to judge us and tell us we're wasting our time?

PS anyone can buy the adspace, it's not an official TL banner

PPS we're not trying to force him to stop making videos, we are just talking about the drama / stupidity / abuse



Combat Obsessed


Self Righteous
MamiyaOtaru
Profile Blog Joined September 2008
United States1687 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-06-18 06:10:01
June 18 2009 06:09 GMT
#147
bleh. need delete button
lIlIlIlIlIlI
Profile Blog Joined October 2004
Korea (South)3851 Posts
June 18 2009 06:12 GMT
#148
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Sentenal
Profile Blog Joined December 2007
United States12398 Posts
June 18 2009 06:17 GMT
#149
On June 18 2009 15:07 gettodaroflchoppa wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 18 2009 14:38 gimpygimpy wrote:
On June 18 2009 12:03 MamiyaOtaru wrote:
On June 18 2009 09:14 gimpygimpy wrote:
I smell jealousy and self-righteousness.

"Oh, I just CANNOT BELIEVE that someone would sink SO LOW as to pad their stats.....DISGUSTING!!! I am SO revolted. I am as pure as the wind-driven snow. I am sooooooo relieved that I am better than this pig with 4,604 loyal subscribers...."

So wait, having 4,602 loyal subscribers means he's beyond reproach? You must worship Britney Spears then, she has 159,740 subscribers. Dunno if they are loyal though...

Seriously though, why would you bring that up? Having all those subscribers is part of why people are pissed off, and no, it's not jealousy. It's because those thousands of people think they are learning something (other than bad habits) when they are not. Those thousands of people are there because a fraud is good at misrepresenting himself.

If Anonymous dislikes David Miscavige it's not because Anonymous is jealous that David has thousands of followers. It's because Anonymous is pissed that thousands of people have been suckered into Scientology. Might Scientology help some people? Possibly. But not as much as real medicine or psychology.

People like Nony and Day9 are real doctors and psychologists. CombatEx is David Miscavige. What you are seeing here is not jealousy. It's poeple sick of a fraud duping gullible twits and said twits coming here to tell us how we are jealous of the great leader.



Jealous


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On June 18 2009 14:39 gimpygimpy wrote:
On June 18 2009 14:08 AlwaysGG wrote:
lol wow the never ending hatred of combatex.

actually i knew he is not a real deal all along by just watch a few of his fpvod then i stopped
it is really funny...

idk what to said i feel sry for the guy but then again hey,,, 可憐之人必有可誤之處so i dont really feel that sorry for him. because he deserve it.



Self Righteous


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On June 18 2009 14:39 gimpygimpy wrote:
On June 18 2009 12:59 VIB wrote:
On June 18 2009 12:25 stanley_ wrote:
my friend's clanmate played combat in a bo 3 and won 2-1 and combat uploaded that 1 win in the bo 3.

that's the main reason i dislike this guy just shady stuff.
lmao that is awesome ^^

IMHO Dishonesty is genetic. You're born with it, you cannot learn to be honest through experience. This Combat guy is incorrigible no matter what we do.

So all in all, the most productive thing left for us to do. Is make fun of him. Because that guy is a joke gold mine.


Self Righteous


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On June 18 2009 14:40 gimpygimpy wrote:
On June 18 2009 10:41 skronch wrote:
On June 18 2009 07:11 Barbapapa wrote:Comparing Combat-ex and other Vod-posters is like comparing South Park with Fox-news.
you're right. both combat-ex and fox-news spew self-indulgant, mindless shit.


Confused

Show nested quote +
On June 18 2009 14:41 gimpygimpy wrote:
On June 18 2009 11:01 Hot_Bid wrote:
On June 18 2009 06:08 disciple wrote:
On June 18 2009 05:57 Chill wrote:
On June 18 2009 05:17 disciple wrote:
well he screwed it up badly, but the year long flaming that Hot_Bid was talking about in the previous thread is just not necessary. I agree that the forgiveness must come later but think about it the other way. Sooner or later you will all become parents, and when your kids lie to you about smth which they eventually will do, you will most likely beat them, forbid them to watch tv for a week and thats it. If your so called love to the game and to fair play is so strong just focus on this and stop gangbanging ot combat-ex. Sure he did smth childish but you have no reason not to act mature yourself...

Combat-Ex was caught abusing two weeks ago. This is a year-long flaming.

Well you cant stop him making his videos, but you can just ignore his efforts. Why are you wasting your time with him anyway? Your points make sense, everything you say is completely reasonable but still its just not necessary - hackers and abusers will always exist on every level even on competitive. I'm not defending him and not saying "just let him be". Ignore him and dont let him in your house, thats all imho. The community is too large to bother so much about a random guy (maybe combat-ex is not completely random but still) who is cheating since forever and uploading his videos on youtube.
What are you trying to achieve anyway? Combat-Ex is not welcome to TL anyway, so this must be done with some kind of educational purpose - "dont do like combat-ex, cause he is a fag and the gaming world must get rid of guys like him"? Believe me I'm with you on everything and I support hot_bid about everything he said, but putting the banner on the main page, even discussing this so inside out is just... an overkill imho. I dont think all this will help in anyway to clean the gaming from the hackers

Who are you to say what is a waste of time for us? We can decide what is productive and what is not. It is not up to you to decide whether the community is "too large to bother with him". That is the community's collective decision, not yours. If you want to ignore him that's fine, don't talk about him or click any of the threads. But I think we can decide for ourselves if we want to make fun of an idiot cheater or not.

You make it seem like we're seeking him out to talk about him, but really we're just doing it on our own forum. Is it really that horrible to make fun of an abuser on a community forum? Everything doesn't need to be necessary or educational. We don't like abusers and people with huge, unjustified egos. We like making fun of them. This public bashing is basically the only recourse and punishment we have against hackers and abusers. Do you really need to judge us and tell us we're wasting our time?

PS anyone can buy the adspace, it's not an official TL banner

PPS we're not trying to force him to stop making videos, we are just talking about the drama / stupidity / abuse



Combat Obsessed


Self Righteous

lol

Seriously though, his spamming is annoying. Its not even funny like the other people who try to defend combat.
"Apparently, Sentenal is a paragon of friendship and tolerance. " - Ech0ne
VIB
Profile Blog Joined November 2007
Brazil3567 Posts
June 18 2009 06:17 GMT
#150
On June 18 2009 14:45 evanthebouncy! wrote:
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On June 18 2009 02:49 AoN.DimSum wrote:
haha read the youtube comments in the apology video. Everyone is bashing tlnet now.


So you see TL's problem? We coop ourselves up in our little bubble while COmbat probably has somehow 12341312312 fanboys.
In a way he's more successful than the most of us in that people actually like him and he does inspire people to play low money. Yes he's pathetic in asking for wins, but again, he's trying to give helps, and regardless of the qualities, they are of use if you've never played low level before.
Personally, stepping on a person who's already been down makes you a coward, it takes balls to challenge people who's been in high positions, but once he's down, throwing stones after him is just like playing D- ranks on Iccup, and makes you no better than Combat.
So please think about it before jumping the bandwagon
Either you didn't read anything that have been posted here already. Or you're just trying to play the unique snowflake. Combat has way more haters than fanboys and does way more harm than help.
Great people talk about ideas. Average people talk about things. Small people talk about other people.
evanthebouncy!
Profile Blog Joined June 2006
United States12796 Posts
June 18 2009 06:29 GMT
#151
On June 18 2009 09:15 YPang wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 18 2009 09:01 floor exercise wrote:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8kSEB9_2H5I

LOLOL its so much funnier in chinese.

HAHAHAH this is so amazing HAHA
Life is run, it is dance, it is fast, passionate and BAM!, you dance and sing and booze while you can for now is the time and time is mine. Smile and laugh when still can for now is the time and soon you die!
evanthebouncy!
Profile Blog Joined June 2006
United States12796 Posts
June 18 2009 06:32 GMT
#152
On June 18 2009 15:17 VIB wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 18 2009 14:45 evanthebouncy! wrote:
On June 18 2009 02:49 AoN.DimSum wrote:
haha read the youtube comments in the apology video. Everyone is bashing tlnet now.


So you see TL's problem? We coop ourselves up in our little bubble while COmbat probably has somehow 12341312312 fanboys.
In a way he's more successful than the most of us in that people actually like him and he does inspire people to play low money. Yes he's pathetic in asking for wins, but again, he's trying to give helps, and regardless of the qualities, they are of use if you've never played low level before.
Personally, stepping on a person who's already been down makes you a coward, it takes balls to challenge people who's been in high positions, but once he's down, throwing stones after him is just like playing D- ranks on Iccup, and makes you no better than Combat.
So please think about it before jumping the bandwagon
Either you didn't read anything that have been posted here already. Or you're just trying to play the unique snowflake. Combat has way more haters than fanboys and does way more harm than help.


Okay! This is interesting. The Harm/Help part might be hard to testify, but let's focus on the ppl who hate him and the ppl who like him.
You say that more people hate him than more people like him. I'm not saying you're wrong, but I have a hunch that more people actually like him.
Is there any way for us to verify it? Should be interesting
Life is run, it is dance, it is fast, passionate and BAM!, you dance and sing and booze while you can for now is the time and time is mine. Smile and laugh when still can for now is the time and soon you die!
Ecael
Profile Joined February 2008
United States6703 Posts
June 18 2009 06:35 GMT
#153
On June 18 2009 15:29 evanthebouncy! wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 18 2009 09:15 YPang wrote:
On June 18 2009 09:01 floor exercise wrote:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8kSEB9_2H5I

LOLOL its so much funnier in chinese.

HAHAHAH this is so amazing HAHA

Hahaha that was hilarious.
VIB
Profile Blog Joined November 2007
Brazil3567 Posts
June 18 2009 06:37 GMT
#154
On June 18 2009 15:32 evanthebouncy! wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 18 2009 15:17 VIB wrote:
On June 18 2009 14:45 evanthebouncy! wrote:
On June 18 2009 02:49 AoN.DimSum wrote:
haha read the youtube comments in the apology video. Everyone is bashing tlnet now.


So you see TL's problem? We coop ourselves up in our little bubble while COmbat probably has somehow 12341312312 fanboys.
In a way he's more successful than the most of us in that people actually like him and he does inspire people to play low money. Yes he's pathetic in asking for wins, but again, he's trying to give helps, and regardless of the qualities, they are of use if you've never played low level before.
Personally, stepping on a person who's already been down makes you a coward, it takes balls to challenge people who's been in high positions, but once he's down, throwing stones after him is just like playing D- ranks on Iccup, and makes you no better than Combat.
So please think about it before jumping the bandwagon
Either you didn't read anything that have been posted here already. Or you're just trying to play the unique snowflake. Combat has way more haters than fanboys and does way more harm than help.


Okay! This is interesting. The Harm/Help part might be hard to testify, but let's focus on the ppl who hate him and the ppl who like him.
You say that more people hate him than more people like him. I'm not saying you're wrong, but I have a hunch that more people actually like him.
Is there any way for us to verify it? Should be interesting
Number of his subscriptions vs ... Number of TL members?
Great people talk about ideas. Average people talk about things. Small people talk about other people.
Hot_Bid
Profile Blog Joined October 2003
Braavos36374 Posts
June 18 2009 06:47 GMT
#155
On June 18 2009 14:41 gimpygimpy wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 18 2009 11:01 Hot_Bid wrote:
On June 18 2009 06:08 disciple wrote:
On June 18 2009 05:57 Chill wrote:
On June 18 2009 05:17 disciple wrote:
well he screwed it up badly, but the year long flaming that Hot_Bid was talking about in the previous thread is just not necessary. I agree that the forgiveness must come later but think about it the other way. Sooner or later you will all become parents, and when your kids lie to you about smth which they eventually will do, you will most likely beat them, forbid them to watch tv for a week and thats it. If your so called love to the game and to fair play is so strong just focus on this and stop gangbanging ot combat-ex. Sure he did smth childish but you have no reason not to act mature yourself...

Combat-Ex was caught abusing two weeks ago. This is a year-long flaming.

Well you cant stop him making his videos, but you can just ignore his efforts. Why are you wasting your time with him anyway? Your points make sense, everything you say is completely reasonable but still its just not necessary - hackers and abusers will always exist on every level even on competitive. I'm not defending him and not saying "just let him be". Ignore him and dont let him in your house, thats all imho. The community is too large to bother so much about a random guy (maybe combat-ex is not completely random but still) who is cheating since forever and uploading his videos on youtube.
What are you trying to achieve anyway? Combat-Ex is not welcome to TL anyway, so this must be done with some kind of educational purpose - "dont do like combat-ex, cause he is a fag and the gaming world must get rid of guys like him"? Believe me I'm with you on everything and I support hot_bid about everything he said, but putting the banner on the main page, even discussing this so inside out is just... an overkill imho. I dont think all this will help in anyway to clean the gaming from the hackers

Who are you to say what is a waste of time for us? We can decide what is productive and what is not. It is not up to you to decide whether the community is "too large to bother with him". That is the community's collective decision, not yours. If you want to ignore him that's fine, don't talk about him or click any of the threads. But I think we can decide for ourselves if we want to make fun of an idiot cheater or not.

You make it seem like we're seeking him out to talk about him, but really we're just doing it on our own forum. Is it really that horrible to make fun of an abuser on a community forum? Everything doesn't need to be necessary or educational. We don't like abusers and people with huge, unjustified egos. We like making fun of them. This public bashing is basically the only recourse and punishment we have against hackers and abusers. Do you really need to judge us and tell us we're wasting our time?

PS anyone can buy the adspace, it's not an official TL banner

PPS we're not trying to force him to stop making videos, we are just talking about the drama / stupidity / abuse



Combat Obsessed

Banned
@Hot_Bid on Twitter - ESPORTS life since 2010 - http://i.imgur.com/U2psw.png
evanthebouncy!
Profile Blog Joined June 2006
United States12796 Posts
June 18 2009 06:50 GMT
#156
On June 18 2009 15:37 VIB wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 18 2009 15:32 evanthebouncy! wrote:
On June 18 2009 15:17 VIB wrote:
On June 18 2009 14:45 evanthebouncy! wrote:
On June 18 2009 02:49 AoN.DimSum wrote:
haha read the youtube comments in the apology video. Everyone is bashing tlnet now.


So you see TL's problem? We coop ourselves up in our little bubble while COmbat probably has somehow 12341312312 fanboys.
In a way he's more successful than the most of us in that people actually like him and he does inspire people to play low money. Yes he's pathetic in asking for wins, but again, he's trying to give helps, and regardless of the qualities, they are of use if you've never played low level before.
Personally, stepping on a person who's already been down makes you a coward, it takes balls to challenge people who's been in high positions, but once he's down, throwing stones after him is just like playing D- ranks on Iccup, and makes you no better than Combat.
So please think about it before jumping the bandwagon
Either you didn't read anything that have been posted here already. Or you're just trying to play the unique snowflake. Combat has way more haters than fanboys and does way more harm than help.


Okay! This is interesting. The Harm/Help part might be hard to testify, but let's focus on the ppl who hate him and the ppl who like him.
You say that more people hate him than more people like him. I'm not saying you're wrong, but I have a hunch that more people actually like him.
Is there any way for us to verify it? Should be interesting
Number of his subscriptions vs ... Number of TL members?


But see that won't quite work because over 90% of TL does not know who he is (think about all the inactives, and people who has 1 post) and besides we don't really know how many people are registered on TL, unless a mod can give us some information on that.

But consider this though
VioleTAK has 12,817 subscribers
Combat has 4,610 Subscribers

Think about the content and quality of VioleTAK's video, see how many subscribers he have, Regardless of the quality of Combat's videos, he has 1/3 of VioleTAK's subscription number. You cannot argue that he's not successful at building a fan base.
Life is run, it is dance, it is fast, passionate and BAM!, you dance and sing and booze while you can for now is the time and time is mine. Smile and laugh when still can for now is the time and soon you die!
Ecael
Profile Joined February 2008
United States6703 Posts
June 18 2009 06:55 GMT
#157
On June 18 2009 15:50 evanthebouncy! wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 18 2009 15:37 VIB wrote:
On June 18 2009 15:32 evanthebouncy! wrote:
On June 18 2009 15:17 VIB wrote:
On June 18 2009 14:45 evanthebouncy! wrote:
On June 18 2009 02:49 AoN.DimSum wrote:
haha read the youtube comments in the apology video. Everyone is bashing tlnet now.


So you see TL's problem? We coop ourselves up in our little bubble while COmbat probably has somehow 12341312312 fanboys.
In a way he's more successful than the most of us in that people actually like him and he does inspire people to play low money. Yes he's pathetic in asking for wins, but again, he's trying to give helps, and regardless of the qualities, they are of use if you've never played low level before.
Personally, stepping on a person who's already been down makes you a coward, it takes balls to challenge people who's been in high positions, but once he's down, throwing stones after him is just like playing D- ranks on Iccup, and makes you no better than Combat.
So please think about it before jumping the bandwagon
Either you didn't read anything that have been posted here already. Or you're just trying to play the unique snowflake. Combat has way more haters than fanboys and does way more harm than help.


Okay! This is interesting. The Harm/Help part might be hard to testify, but let's focus on the ppl who hate him and the ppl who like him.
You say that more people hate him than more people like him. I'm not saying you're wrong, but I have a hunch that more people actually like him.
Is there any way for us to verify it? Should be interesting
Number of his subscriptions vs ... Number of TL members?


But see that won't quite work because over 90% of TL does not know who he is (think about all the inactives, and people who has 1 post) and besides we don't really know how many people are registered on TL, unless a mod can give us some information on that.

But consider this though
VioleTAK has 12,817 subscribers
Combat has 4,610 Subscribers

Think about the content and quality of VioleTAK's video, see how many subscribers he have, Regardless of the quality of Combat's videos, he has 1/3 of VioleTAK's subscription number. You cannot argue that he's not successful at building a fan base.

On the first sight it looks like an accurate comparison, but I don't really feel like that's the case, unless we stretch the definition of fanbase to be looking at his vids occasionally and finding it interesting. The degree of intensity of the two groups probably doesn't really compare, we are really more concerned with the amount of people who has sufficient trust in Combat to take his words as they are.
VIB
Profile Blog Joined November 2007
Brazil3567 Posts
June 18 2009 06:59 GMT
#158
Active : 762 last 15 minutes. That is the last 15 minutes. Just picture per day viewers looking at that banner etc etc 4k subscribers is nothing compared to the pwning size of TL.

But don't get much further on this. I just commented on that to point out how he is also highly unpopular and harmful. But harmful is the keyword. Unpopular is just a multiplier and isn't as important alone. How many flies eat shit and love it again?
Great people talk about ideas. Average people talk about things. Small people talk about other people.
Manifesto7
Profile Blog Joined November 2002
Osaka27148 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-06-18 07:13:07
June 18 2009 07:09 GMT
#159
I agree with evan in that he does a fine job building a fan base, and does us all a favor by getting more people into our "scene", whether it be ums/$$ players or non-SC players.

I also don't really care about the "harmful" factor, because that is pretty much crap. There is enough material our there for people to judge for themselves. People listened to my RWAs and I barely knew what I was talking about. If it entertains them, go for it. There are so many commentators and progames that he is not the lone voice in the wilderness. Being able to listen to anyone else talk BW gives you a different perspective on things. That is why we have a strat forum.

Where I lose interest is the methods of how he does it. I don't like that he attracts people to the scene but has to use the behavior we revile to do it. It is not good for any game, or sport, to have a cheater promoting it. Barry Bonds will never be the face of baseball and Ben Johnson will never be a respected track coach.

If Combat just cut the bullshit out of his repertoire, he would realize people don't care nearly as much about his rank as he does. The cost of beinging able to say "I'm B" seems to have cost im his credibility, when in fact just being his natural level and producing the same videos would have earned him the same results.

So Combat, if you read this, be yourself. Don't abuse the system, don't abuse the community, because when you do your value loses work, even to yourself.
ModeratorGodfather
VIB
Profile Blog Joined November 2007
Brazil3567 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-06-18 07:24:01
June 18 2009 07:22 GMT
#160
On June 18 2009 16:09 Manifesto7 wrote:
I also don't really care about the "harmful" factor, because that is pretty much crap. There is enough material our there for people to judge for themselves.
In my opinion your undervaluing misinformation. Many people subscribe to him because they don't know any better. Like many of my friends did and as many others reported on the hundreds of other Combat threads.

I would have zero problem with him if he would make it very clear in each one of his vods that he isn't the best source for learning, and if you wish to improve yourself refer to x, y and z. As opposed to advertising all around that he is the best. Well that and of course, if he wasn't dishonest ><
Great people talk about ideas. Average people talk about things. Small people talk about other people.
Lemonwalrus
Profile Blog Joined August 2006
United States5465 Posts
June 18 2009 07:30 GMT
#161
On June 18 2009 09:53 Avidkeystamper wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 18 2009 09:25 Sentenal wrote:
On June 18 2009 09:22 Harem wrote:
On June 18 2009 09:20 Sentenal wrote:
On June 18 2009 09:14 gimpygimpy wrote:
I smell jealousy and self-righteousness.

"Oh, I just CANNOT BELIEVE that someone would sink SO LOW as to pad their stats.....DISGUSTING!!! I am SO revolted. I am as pure as the wind-driven snow. I am sooooooo relieved that I am better than this pig with 4,604 loyal subscribers...."

lol

Yeah, I guess abusing a ladder, when 99% of everyone else who plays it does it legit, isn't that bad at all. Those people working hard at getting better/improving their rank are just dumb, they should abuse too!

edit: holy shit, how long have I been a dragoon...?

For about 3 posts, you nub.

My dragoon would beat the shit out of your ling, HarmtaroAdun.

My devourer will pwn the...wait, =[ At least I have armour and am a bitch to kill =]

It's ok big bro, I got this one.
Kim_Hyun_Han
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
706 Posts
June 18 2009 10:50 GMT
#162
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the blue one is combat-ex
Kyo Yuy
Profile Joined January 2009
United States1286 Posts
June 18 2009 11:32 GMT
#163
On June 18 2009 16:22 VIB wrote:
I would have zero problem with him if he would make it very clear in each one of his vods that he isn't the best source for learning, and if you wish to improve yourself refer to x, y and z. As opposed to advertising all around that he is the best. Well that and of course, if he wasn't dishonest ><

I'm not necessarily defending Combat, but he doesn't really say he's the best. If he was really that dishonest he'd stretch his ICCUP rank further and say he was A+.

It doesn't make it any better that he abused to B- and now says he's B- level in his FPVODs. But he doesn't say he's A+ either.

When I did watch his FPVODs, yes he did brag a lot, but he also said "I'm not that good" quite a bit.

And I do agree his FPVODs aren't really that good for learning because he doesn't offer much strategical insight and doesn't really explain what builds are good on what maps, or even how the build works or when to make what buildings.

I also agree with the criticism that Combat-EX should not be playing D/D- players when recording his FPVODs. It gives viewers the impression that he's REALLY GOOD and also gives them the sense that all his strategies will work when they only tend to work if your opponent is WAY worse than you.

And just about any decent player can find a really really bad player and use any strategy they want and still win.

Heck, even at pro level we see some ridiculous stuff being done solely for the purpose of humiliation. Like Bisu making a fleet of scouts against Hwasin in (I believe it was) Daum OSL 07.
#1 KawaiiRice fan :D
MoeMoeKyun
Profile Joined January 2009
United States215 Posts
June 18 2009 12:59 GMT
#164
Rofl I came into this thread thinking, "Wow people on TL.Net are still bashing Combat? Good grief." But as I read every page in this thread(some tl;dr) I think this is about right.

He says people on TL.Net are bashing him and flaming but this was alot more civilized(or w/e >_>) than I thought it would be. I thought people would just say "OMG HE ABUSED HE SUCKS DICK GO KILL UR SELF" but its not thankfully. I think he's sorta blowing this out of proportion

The most people "support" him I think is really I think there just being blind fanboys. This is true on SC2GG a little(I've been a member there for a while so I'm not flaming SC2GG at all) but defending with "He takes time to post videos and help noobs". If I took 10 minutes out of my day I could post a 3 minute video on how to defend a 4 pool too. Mmm ok thats not fair yeah, because you post alot of games doesn't mean your allowed to be instantly forgiven.

Ok I dunno alot of what I wrote I just wrote what came to mind and when I try typing that out it turns into mumbo jumbo.

For what its worth:
+ Show Spoiler +


Oh and Senental, my SCVs will eat your Dragoons numnumnum
I lol in ur general direction
h3r1n6
Profile Blog Joined September 2007
Iceland2039 Posts
June 18 2009 15:21 GMT
#165
On June 18 2009 21:59 SCC-AlwaysGG wrote:
For what its worth:
+ Show Spoiler +
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L1LCxk1l80Q



Thats quite hilarious. Well, On second thought, its sad. But I know what it reminds me of:

+ Show Spoiler +




LEAVE COMBAT ALONE
Ancestral
Profile Blog Joined August 2007
United States3230 Posts
June 18 2009 15:30 GMT
#166
On June 19 2009 00:21 h3r1n6 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 18 2009 21:59 SCC-AlwaysGG wrote:
For what its worth:
+ Show Spoiler +
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L1LCxk1l80Q



Thats quite hilarious. Well, On second thought, its sad. But I know what it reminds me of:

+ Show Spoiler +

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kHmvkRoEowc


LEAVE COMBAT ALONE

Oh God, this is sad. I must now go out and "prove my worth to Combat-Ex!" The person who recorded this video cannot properly articulate a complete thought.
The Nature and purpose of the martial way are universal; all selfish desires must be roasted in the tempering fires of hard training. - Masutatsu Oyama
gjg.instinct
Profile Joined May 2009
144 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-06-18 15:34:34
June 18 2009 15:30 GMT
#167
I played this guy on ICCUP last night. He proxi gated, gg'd, then begged for win, then built pylons in hidden corners and disconnected at the end.

[IMG=http://img140.imageshack.us/img140/2433/combatexbegging.jpg][/IMG]
floor exercise
Profile Blog Joined August 2008
Canada5847 Posts
June 18 2009 15:47 GMT
#168
It's kinda sad because for all the work he puts into pretending he is good, for as long as he has been playing you really have to show a lack of talent to still not be a decent B- player
Adeny
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
Norway1233 Posts
June 18 2009 16:02 GMT
#169
On June 19 2009 00:30 gjg.instinct wrote:
I played this guy on ICCUP last night. He proxi gated, gg'd, then begged for win, then built pylons in hidden corners and disconnected at the end.

[IMG=http://img140.imageshack.us/img140/2433/combatexbegging.jpg]
[/IMG]

What you've got is combat_ex, combat's ID is combat-ex afaik. Probably just someone dicking around.
Foucault
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
Sweden2826 Posts
June 18 2009 17:04 GMT
#170
Goood that video is just too much. Combat-ex why do you even care what other people think of you, people you haven't met irl.

I'm also curious if anyone has that much interest as to hear you ramble about whether or not you cheat. It's not like you're a korean progamer
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fanatacist
Profile Blog Joined August 2007
10319 Posts
June 18 2009 17:18 GMT
#171
Manifesto got the nail on the head.
Peace~
Hot_Bid
Profile Blog Joined October 2003
Braavos36374 Posts
June 18 2009 17:27 GMT
#172
I don't care that he sucks or that he helps newbies, I just hate that he cheats, and that he acts like an egotistical douche in his videos. As Mani said, if Combat just ditched the obsession with representing himself like a progamer then he a) wouldn't have to abuse to reach some mythical rank and b) wouldn't get all the hate from us. It's really very simple.
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PriitM
Profile Blog Joined March 2008
Algeria181 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-06-18 17:42:45
June 18 2009 17:42 GMT
#173
--- Nuked ---
3clipse
Profile Blog Joined September 2008
Canada2555 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-06-18 20:02:40
June 18 2009 20:01 GMT
#174
On June 19 2009 00:47 floor exercise wrote:
It's kinda sad because for all the work he puts into pretending he is good, for as long as he has been playing you really have to show a lack of talent to still not be a decent B- player

Um, what? This is kind of insulting. The vast majority of regular sc players will never reach B- unless they do nothing but train all day.
floor exercise
Profile Blog Joined August 2008
Canada5847 Posts
June 18 2009 20:27 GMT
#175
On June 19 2009 05:01 3clipse wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 19 2009 00:47 floor exercise wrote:
It's kinda sad because for all the work he puts into pretending he is good, for as long as he has been playing you really have to show a lack of talent to still not be a decent B- player

Um, what? This is kind of insulting. The vast majority of regular sc players will never reach B- unless they do nothing but train all day.

The vast majority of players don't aspire to have the respect and admiration of the masses the way CombatEx does. This guy wants to be respected for his ability to play starcraft so bad that he will cheat lie and deceive others. But pretty much anyone who is any good at video games and puts as much time into SC as CombatEx does (playing very regularly and obviously trying to be good for what, 2-3 years now?) would be a B level player.
VIB
Profile Blog Joined November 2007
Brazil3567 Posts
June 18 2009 20:45 GMT
#176
LOL I just received a lengthy hate PM of some random guy about how awesome Combat is and how gay I am for not being a fanboi. I only read the first 2 sentences and deleted it, because it sounded like a 10 year old nerd raging.

I don't really know what else to say, other than this is so hilarious ^^ Just look at the people who admit being "fans" of him.. Look at those, in this thread, in hate PMs, in youtube comments. Just look at them. Wish I were half as articulate in english as some of you. Because I really don't know how to say this in a civilized manner: This is just too ridiculous...

"Well at least, he is good at building a fan base"???

I'm just here in this thread trying to argue against 1) cheating/dishonesty, 2) bragging, 1+2) cheating so you can brag, 3) teaching "poisonous" (as Artosis says) strategies to newbies. The only adult replies here are those saying "Well at least, he is good at building a fan base". But I'm sorry, after what I've experienced I don't really think that weights as much
Great people talk about ideas. Average people talk about things. Small people talk about other people.
gjg.instinct
Profile Joined May 2009
144 Posts
June 18 2009 21:50 GMT
#177
On June 19 2009 01:02 Adeny wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 19 2009 00:30 gjg.instinct wrote:
I played this guy on ICCUP last night. He proxi gated, gg'd, then begged for win, then built pylons in hidden corners and disconnected at the end.

[IMG=http://img140.imageshack.us/img140/2433/combatexbegging.jpg]


What you've got is combat_ex, combat's ID is combat-ex afaik. Probably just someone dicking around.
[/IMG]

probably true, although i don't know who would represent to be him that wasn't
MoeMoeKyun
Profile Joined January 2009
United States215 Posts
June 18 2009 22:34 GMT
#178
Oh cmon VIB why didn't you copy and paste it
I lol in ur general direction
7mk
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
Germany10157 Posts
June 18 2009 22:56 GMT
#179
On June 19 2009 07:34 Caffeine_Free wrote:
Oh cmon VIB why didn't you copy and paste it

same thought ^^
beep boop
clazziquai
Profile Blog Joined October 2007
6685 Posts
June 19 2009 01:02 GMT
#180
I declare myself the #1 combat-ex anti-fan (check sig). =D
#1 Sea.Really Fan / #1 Nesh Fan / Terran Forever~
Divinek
Profile Blog Joined November 2006
Canada4045 Posts
June 19 2009 04:03 GMT
#181
On June 19 2009 05:01 3clipse wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 19 2009 00:47 floor exercise wrote:
It's kinda sad because for all the work he puts into pretending he is good, for as long as he has been playing you really have to show a lack of talent to still not be a decent B- player

Um, what? This is kind of insulting. The vast majority of regular sc players will never reach B- unless they do nothing but train all day.


It hardly takes "training all day" to reach B-. You just have to train properly
Never attribute to malice that which can be adequately explained by stupidity.
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Husky
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
United States3362 Posts
June 19 2009 05:04 GMT
#182
On June 18 2009 21:59 Caffeine_Free wrote:
Rofl I came into this thread thinking, "Wow people on TL.Net are still bashing Combat? Good grief." But as I read every page in this thread(some tl;dr) I think this is about right.

He says people on TL.Net are bashing him and flaming but this was alot more civilized(or w/e >_>) than I thought it would be. I thought people would just say "OMG HE ABUSED HE SUCKS DICK GO KILL UR SELF" but its not thankfully. I think he's sorta blowing this out of proportion

The most people "support" him I think is really I think there just being blind fanboys. This is true on SC2GG a little(I've been a member there for a while so I'm not flaming SC2GG at all) but defending with "He takes time to post videos and help noobs". If I took 10 minutes out of my day I could post a 3 minute video on how to defend a 4 pool too. Mmm ok thats not fair yeah, because you post alot of games doesn't mean your allowed to be instantly forgiven.

Ok I dunno alot of what I wrote I just wrote what came to mind and when I try typing that out it turns into mumbo jumbo.

For what its worth:
+ Show Spoiler +
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L1LCxk1l80Q


Oh and Senental, my SCVs will eat your Dragoons numnumnum


I was trying so hard not to post but... THIS VIDEO IS EPIC HAHAHAAHAHAAH. Please post more if you find them. lmfaoooo
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rei
Profile Blog Joined October 2002
United States3594 Posts
June 19 2009 05:32 GMT
#183
Combat-EX,
You do not need to be high ranked player to discuss valid strategies in your vod, people will still enjoy them.

you are misinforming all your fans that your strategies and plays have reached the B skill level of starcraft.

Here is 2 things you need to distinguish: Logics and Iccup rank. Higher ranked player doesn't have to always be right in the logics of his strategies or things he does.
a lower ranked play could have the right logic in his strategy but does not have the skill to execute them.

Finally, learn to be humble, if you position yourself lower, you don't have the pressure to proove yourself, and you can improve easier since you are more susceptible to constructive criticism too. This can be a lesson for you in real life.

GET OUT OF MY BASE CHILL
7mk
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
Germany10157 Posts
June 19 2009 14:04 GMT
#184
On June 19 2009 10:02 clazziquai wrote:
I declare myself the #1 combat-ex anti-fan (check sig). =D


This would be more meaningful if you weren't also sea.really's #1 fan...

beep boop
HeavOnEarth
Profile Blog Joined March 2008
United States7087 Posts
June 19 2009 14:27 GMT
#185
On June 18 2009 05:32 Hot_Bid wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 18 2009 05:23 Megalisk wrote:
On June 18 2009 05:17 Hot_Bid wrote:
On June 18 2009 05:09 Megalisk wrote:
On June 18 2009 01:13 TheFoReveRwaR wrote:
On June 18 2009 00:54 Megalisk wrote:
On June 18 2009 00:45 Combat-EX wrote:
im not blaming anyone for what ive done...

and just to clear it up....i didn't post that ad, and i have no idea who did

this video is literally exactly what you guys have asked
and i made it...posted it on youtube for all my fans to see

if this doesn't make u guys happy,
i dont know what else i can do.


Thanks for the vid man, that's pretty brave, honestly, your vids are what got me into 1v1 starcraft instead of playing BGH/Fastest.

You have painfully low standards.

Cause I don't care about his little shenanigans, He just posts videos to help noobs and they do. He is a liar and he knows he isn't B-, but hes just giving some help.

Unfortunately, helping someone isn't a shield against criticism. For instance, OJ Simpson entertained millions of people with his skills as a running back in the National Football League. He then went on to murder two people. But I'm sure he helped people when he was a running back. This doesn't mean we can't say that his murders are wrong. Why are you supporting murder?

Except this isn't murder, its playing a fucking computer game.

Would you like me to provide an example that is less serious than murder, and we can debate which is more severe, abusing on ICCup or taking steroids in high school sports (he's helping the fans so i don't care!), or cheating in high school (he's helping his friends get better grades and get into college so i dont care!), etc.

But thank you for pointing out that taking freewins on a ladder is not actually killing someone, I was not aware of this difference when I made the analogy. I can't believe I didn't see that.

Hahahah :D
"come korea next time... FXO house... 10 korean, 10 korean"
konadora *
Profile Blog Joined February 2009
Singapore66160 Posts
June 19 2009 15:12 GMT
#186
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L1LCxk1l80Q

Wow this video... =.="
POGGERS
kdog3683
Profile Blog Joined January 2007
United States916 Posts
June 19 2009 16:17 GMT
#187
On June 18 2009 15:35 Ecael wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 18 2009 15:29 evanthebouncy! wrote:
On June 18 2009 09:15 YPang wrote:
On June 18 2009 09:01 floor exercise wrote:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8kSEB9_2H5I

LOLOL its so much funnier in chinese.

HAHAHAH this is so amazing HAHA

Hahaha that was hilarious.


I'm chuckling uncontrollably
Multiply your efforts.
MamiyaOtaru
Profile Blog Joined September 2008
United States1687 Posts
June 19 2009 17:12 GMT
#188
On June 18 2009 20:32 Kyo Yuy wrote:
I'm not necessarily defending Combat, but he doesn't really say he's the best. If he was really that dishonest he'd stretch his ICCUP rank further and say he was A+.

You think he wouldn't do that if he could? He stretched it as far as he could go. He only abused to B- because that was as far as he could abuse. He doesn't deserve any credit for not abusing to A.
n
Profile Joined May 2009
United States48 Posts
June 19 2009 22:48 GMT
#189
On June 19 2009 05:45 VIB wrote:
"Well at least, he is good at building a fan base"???


Because, unlike some more accomplished players, he actually takes the time and energy to consistently make videos. Really, to all those concerned about Combat-Ex's "influence" on his viewerbase, such as his promoting of bad strategies or gaming habits, why not start publishing your own videos to the extent that he does? The way I see it, at least he's doing something to promote Starcraft to those new to it. Since TL obviously has a ton of players that are more skilled than he is, why not use your resources instead of just whining about how he misleads noobs? Why not do something instead of sitting in your high-castle as many TLers seem to do. Really, the only thing I respect about Combat-Ex is that at least he tries to interact with the beginner community. I know personally that without Combat-Ex, I would not have gotten interested in non-money Starcraft to begin with. I don't watch his videos anymore, but I know without him I would never have come upon TL or competitive Starcraft.

So here's my challenge: instead of just complaining about how Combat-Ex is bad for the community, gather skilled TLers and start making your own educational FPVODS that do all the things that Combat-Ex's videos don't, on a schedule similar to Combat-Ex's own. Because the thing is, Combat-Ex isn't pushing anyone out of the way. He's not stealing shine from anybody, because nobody else really is willing to dedicate the time and energy to make videos as he does. Taking active steps to interact with the "lesser" community of Youtube will go a long way in making TL look less like hypocrites attacking Combat-Ex for making videos when in reality he is filling a void that can easily be filled by the TL community.
7mk
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
Germany10157 Posts
June 20 2009 02:02 GMT
#190
On June 20 2009 07:48 n wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 19 2009 05:45 VIB wrote:
"Well at least, he is good at building a fan base"???


Because, unlike some more accomplished players, he actually takes the time and energy to consistently make videos. Really, to all those concerned about Combat-Ex's "influence" on his viewerbase, such as his promoting of bad strategies or gaming habits, why not start publishing your own videos to the extent that he does? The way I see it, at least he's doing something to promote Starcraft to those new to it. Since TL obviously has a ton of players that are more skilled than he is, why not use your resources instead of just whining about how he misleads noobs? Why not do something instead of sitting in your high-castle as many TLers seem to do. Really, the only thing I respect about Combat-Ex is that at least he tries to interact with the beginner community. I know personally that without Combat-Ex, I would not have gotten interested in non-money Starcraft to begin with. I don't watch his videos anymore, but I know without him I would never have come upon TL or competitive Starcraft.

So here's my challenge: instead of just complaining about how Combat-Ex is bad for the community, gather skilled TLers and start making your own educational FPVODS that do all the things that Combat-Ex's videos don't, on a schedule similar to Combat-Ex's own. Because the thing is, Combat-Ex isn't pushing anyone out of the way. He's not stealing shine from anybody, because nobody else really is willing to dedicate the time and energy to make videos as he does. Taking active steps to interact with the "lesser" community of Youtube will go a long way in making TL look less like hypocrites attacking Combat-Ex for making videos when in reality he is filling a void that can easily be filled by the TL community.



Tbh, I actually agree with this guy

Of course there are already some FPVods which are obviously way better than any of combat's but there certainly could be a lot more.
I mean if you just type in something random like "starcraft zvp" / "starcraft zvt" / "starcrat pvt"
Youre mainly gonna find combat-ex, combat-ex,combat-ex,combat-ex...

Of course the trend of live streams is already amazing, but for proper strategical analysis and improving as a player fpvods+commentary are still better
beep boop
Avidkeystamper
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
United States8552 Posts
June 20 2009 02:40 GMT
#191
Wow that sounds awfully like the "he helps people therefore we should forgive him" argument that was debunked at least 10 different times in this thread. Yes, let's bring it up again without addressing anyone's counterarguments.
Jaedong
Sonu
Profile Blog Joined December 2008
Canada577 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-06-20 05:04:45
June 20 2009 05:00 GMT
#192
On June 18 2009 06:21 Barbapapa wrote:
Ok

I have no idea why you are so freaking mad at combat-ex. He is a bad player... SO FUCKING WHAT? I feel so stupid that I listened to him at the first place. NO! He's fucking awesome at what he is doing, I'm not only learning from his videos, but it's mostly entertaining. And isn't that what matters? Well, I'm not gonna work as a SC player when I get older, so why does it fucking matter if he might be teaching me wrong. I think it's you who are only jealous at his great work of posting VODs. And I don't get the videos less entertaining, if he has abused.

You all seem to forget, that starcraft is used for entertainment.

ok, then wat if some guy wanted to play professionally when they were older? then they would be taught wrong, and then they would keep loosing games, not knowing y.

yes its entertaintment, but its also a game. every game has rules. violators of the rules get kicked out/lose, thats wats happening to combat right now.

frankly it matters alot. I dont care if i am going to play professionally, but lets say i wanna get to B level in a few seasons, and all my VOD time is dedicated to Combat... i am NEVER GOING TO ACHIEVE MY GOAL.

They are bashing him to stop making vods, cuz if he continues then more people will learn wrong.. and never get good, and quit, and say sc is bull sht.

but i agree that something other than bashing should be done.
"I really like this wall-in, because its not a fucking wall" - DAy[9]
Combat-EX
Profile Joined October 2008
Canada32 Posts
June 20 2009 06:00 GMT
#193
ok, so i've read every last comment up to this point...
and i wanna start off by saying ...what manifest said on page 8.....well ....one of the reasons i created the apology video was the realization of all that..

secondly....and this should be very obvious, if not, then you guys are just blindly bashing me without second thought.....
i've seen all the screenshots and videos of "ME" begging for wins, and ....im gonna say this straight up....the majority of those arn't me, and are pathetic losers who are trying to bring me down even more. im not going to argue this with anyone, strictly because i know what games ive played and i know what screenshots are false....

the next topic id like to talk about....is my skill level...
which i know is going to very VERY controversial, but I do feel like its important to bring up
i didn't say this in my youtube video because i was sure whatever rank i said, TL would disagree
so im gonna say it in this thread ON TL.
yes i realized i abused to get to B- rank, ...and i know this will be very hard to believe, but i do think i am ranging in the skill level of B-,
and i know many people are going to disagree with this,
so.. just to prove it, i am willing to game anyone on TL that has maxed at B- rank in a bo5/7/9
im not saying im going to win, but i can garuntee i'll put up a good fight.
the reason i am so confident in this is...because i have gotten B- without abuse on several smurf accounts.
and i know i was caught up in the whole 'wanting a good record' thing, so thats why on combat-ex it seems i have a very good record when reaching B-
although truth has it, almost every season for the past year ive been able to reach B- with easily having 3:2 ratio, win:lose. in fact i reached B one season with over 60% win rate. (this is not to boast, this is strictly to reinforce my point)
that i can understand is extremely controversial so thats why im willing to prove it.

the next point id like to address is ....about my attitude and how i 'present' myself in my videos.
i understand that i say ' im good' im this im that, but ...and i repeat myself, its for newbs
and i get that people can take that in a bad way.....so from now on, in all my videos, im simply not gonna boast myself like that. (my next video is already made, and u guys can see to judge)
what im trying to say here is that, im simply gonna stop boasting myself in my vids and try to very humble in the ones to come.

now, to talk about my videos and subscribers and all that good stuff.
i'm simply gonna state that i disagree with anyone who says that my videos do not help beginners
although i realized after re-watched like 10videos of my own, that i do explain less, boast more. so i am going to change that.
however, i do agree that there are better sources to better improve your sc gaming
although no one (that i know of) supplies constant First Person VOD's with commentary at the rate i do
and also, i do try hard to make my videos entertaining AND educational at the same time
and i do work very hard to post these videos on youtube, so i'm not going to agree with anyone saying that the vids are to help make me look good vs to help noobs
i realized that i boast a LOT in the vids, so im going to stop that.

and finally....as hard as this is to say...after reading all these pages of bashing.
i am still gonna try to earn TL's respect....
i know this is gonna take a hell of a long time,
but i understand that what i did was a huge crime in this community
i have changed my ways now....you guys won't believe this as of now,but i hope as time goes by and my videos/iccup become more helpful/legit , you guys will see that i have changed.

i'll continue reading posts on here and on my youtube apologies video, ...

ps.
i know i may never EARN tl's respect,
but in the end....
i'll still be making these vids, (with some change to attempt to earn some respect)

pps.
you may wonder why i want tl's respect so badly, and why i made a video strictly because of this.
the reason is that, tl does have the majority of foreign skilled gamers,
and i would like it if i was respected by them for what i do.
im not going to die if i dont get the respect, i'll try for a while, but if it doesn't work, il simply give up.
on that note, watch my next video that comes out, after all this bashing of me, and all the bashing of TL on my apologies video comments, i STILL try to slightly defend TL.
taking these last 2 lines into consideration, i hope that with time , you guys can accept me
Kyo Yuy
Profile Joined January 2009
United States1286 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-06-20 13:37:06
June 20 2009 13:32 GMT
#194
On June 20 2009 15:00 Combat-EX wrote:
so.. just to prove it, i am willing to game anyone on TL that has maxed at B- rank in a bo5/7/9
im not saying im going to win, but i can garuntee i'll put up a good fight.
the reason i am so confident in this is...because i have gotten B- without abuse on several smurf accounts.

I will respect if you manage to "put up a good fight" against Chill in a bo5.

I'm sure he'd even be willing to stream it. In fact, I'm pretty sure much of TL has been waiting for you to play Chill in a bo5.

I'm aware you've beaten Chill once before. And since you're putting forth the offer to take a B- player in a bo5, then face Chill. It's the match everyone wants to see, and I know I for one would love to see it.

I can assure you, if you manage to go so far as to beat Chill in a bo5, you will silence most of your critics forever. So this is not just a challenge, it's in some ways advice.
#1 KawaiiRice fan :D
Yaqoob
Profile Blog Joined March 2005
Canada3323 Posts
June 20 2009 14:26 GMT
#195
He reaches a good winning % to B- because 50% of the time he plays 1 rank lower then him. Just check his match-list for this season.
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MoeMoeKyun
Profile Joined January 2009
United States215 Posts
June 20 2009 14:51 GMT
#196
Play Chill. Stream it. PvZ if your best matchup anyway right?

PS - I LOVE YOU CHILL. That is all.
I lol in ur general direction
MaRiNe23
Profile Blog Joined December 2006
United States747 Posts
June 20 2009 19:55 GMT
#197
Why don't you just stream your videos like Chill asked you to? I mean wanting to showmatch vs another B- is good but why not do that AND stream your iccup games on live stream? It's pretty obvious you still don't care. gtfo
We have competitive ladder, strong community, progaming in Korea going strong, perfectly balanced game..why do we need sc2? #1 ANTI-SC2 fan
acnexus
Profile Joined June 2009
Canada1 Post
Last Edited: 2009-06-20 20:08:47
June 20 2009 20:05 GMT
#198
Combat stop posting here. I have every reason to believe that most of the carebears here are not gonna stop bashing you. Let me list a few points that are so true.

(1) Most of TL is jealous of you for your popularity. Despite you cheating and lying (fukin moron you, but hey you were bashed on more threads and comments than I can count for what you did and you apologized and they still are bashing you just the same, so I don't know if they'll ever forgive you).

(2) They think way too high of themselves. "Oh Im better than him", bla bla bla. Well at least he is contributing to the noob community and to those stuck in between being a noob and a decent player. You on the other hand, set on your lazy asses and contribute ALOT more to bashing him than you contribute to the community......

(3) I believe a significant amount of hate at TL is due to your background and cultural beliefs. Believe me, no matter what people post below me to try to prove me wrong, your background has something to do with some of the hate. That being said, I don't think anything you do will make them neutral toward you. So don't waste your time and move on.

(4) I registered to post this here after seeing your unnecessary apology video, and I would like TL to know that they certainly aren't that loved by the SC community (the official one). Go check starcraft forums, scwire, and all other fan sites. You people are not loved. <-----period.

(5) I will be banned because of my opinions and you know what, I do not care, because you people don't respect anyone who disagrees with you. This is my first and last post here.


acnexus signing out.

Ecael
Profile Joined February 2008
United States6703 Posts
June 20 2009 20:36 GMT
#199
A good amount of combat bashing is perpetuated by the kind of post we see you post, acnexus, hate due to background and cultural beliefs? Yes, we see the the bashing comments littered with "Oh man combat isn't Korean he is (insert race) but he claims to be B- how dare he omg", seriously, if by bashing combat I get to read entertaining replies like that I'll join the bandwagon too. A cheap price for entertainment. In fact, I think I am going to try to start a new bashing trend, acnexus, the defender of Combat-ex, is doing so for background and cultural reasons. Because it is such a good way to get people in on the topic on a forum with posters from all over the world.

I think the validity of the apology has been more than throughly discussed as it is, so I'll refer you to read the previous 9 pages and come to a conclusion yourself. However, since you won't be posting ever again, I suppose it doesn't matter either.

For Combat's contribution to the noob community...wait that too has been throughly covered! Did you perhaps post your reply after just reading the OP and jumped to the last page? At any case, there is a positive and a negative effect to his videos, I personally believe that the positive outweights the negative, but that's evidently not the majority here thinks.

TL doesn't need to be loved by the official SC community, it simply needs to be better. That might not get them as much attention from Blizzard, but it has the fortunate side effect of being impossible to ignore even though the vast majority of the players [apparently] hate TL.

I hope you won't be banned for your opinions, largely because it is so amusing to see a post like this every so often. In fact, this is almost better than the guy advocating Adidas' rights on susie's thread. Please, mods, don't ban him, get him to post more, enough people like him and there might not be any more combat bashing of a serious nature - we'd all toss in mock comments for replies of this kind.
Chef
Profile Blog Joined August 2005
10810 Posts
June 20 2009 20:48 GMT
#200
and finally....as hard as this is to say...after reading all these pages of bashing.
i am still gonna try to earn TL's respect....

Do it.

People will be bashing you for a long time now. Mostly small minded people. But if you play legit, you don't bash lower ranks. Your record looks clean, you upload all your replays, and you stop asking for donations and boasting about how good you are... Eventually, people will stop hating you. They might not respect you, but at least they won't despise you. In order to be respect here, you have to be really, really good/helpful/awesome/amiable etc. Shoot for 'not hated.'

The problem with your apologies is that during them you're making tonnes of excuses. This isn't the spirit of an apology IMO it's like you never gave one. But I don't care, as long as you shape up and play honest from now on.
LEGEND!! LEGEND!!
floor exercise
Profile Blog Joined August 2008
Canada5847 Posts
June 20 2009 21:00 GMT
#201
Just play Chill he is a very good benchmark for a B player
Chef
Profile Blog Joined August 2005
10810 Posts
June 20 2009 21:13 GMT
#202
It's kind of inconsiderate to sign someone else up to play Combat-EX :O
LEGEND!! LEGEND!!
floor exercise
Profile Blog Joined August 2008
Canada5847 Posts
June 20 2009 21:19 GMT
#203
Chill has tried to play him multiple times and even says so in this thread but Combat keeps dodging him so it's not really "signing someone else up to play." If Combat really wants to earn TLs respect I can't see a better way
AoN.DimSum
Profile Blog Joined September 2008
United States2983 Posts
June 20 2009 22:42 GMT
#204
what is the official sc website that hates tlnet?
by my idol krokkis : "U better hope Finland wont have WCG next year and that I wont gain shitloads of skill, cause then I will wash ur mouth with soap, little man."
Yaqoob
Profile Blog Joined March 2005
Canada3323 Posts
June 21 2009 07:36 GMT
#205
There is none because they all bow down before the power that is Teamliquid.net
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Sentenal
Profile Blog Joined December 2007
United States12398 Posts
June 21 2009 08:06 GMT
#206
On June 21 2009 05:05 acnexus wrote:
Combat stop posting here. I have every reason to believe that most of the carebears here are not gonna stop bashing you. Let me list a few points that are so true.

(1) Most of TL is jealous of you for your popularity. Despite you cheating and lying (fukin moron you, but hey you were bashed on more threads and comments than I can count for what you did and you apologized and they still are bashing you just the same, so I don't know if they'll ever forgive you).

(2) They think way too high of themselves. "Oh Im better than him", bla bla bla. Well at least he is contributing to the noob community and to those stuck in between being a noob and a decent player. You on the other hand, set on your lazy asses and contribute ALOT more to bashing him than you contribute to the community......

(3) I believe a significant amount of hate at TL is due to your background and cultural beliefs. Believe me, no matter what people post below me to try to prove me wrong, your background has something to do with some of the hate. That being said, I don't think anything you do will make them neutral toward you. So don't waste your time and move on.

(4) I registered to post this here after seeing your unnecessary apology video, and I would like TL to know that they certainly aren't that loved by the SC community (the official one). Go check starcraft forums, scwire, and all other fan sites. You people are not loved. <-----period.

(5) I will be banned because of my opinions and you know what, I do not care, because you people don't respect anyone who disagrees with you. This is my first and last post here.


acnexus signing out.


lol

Yeah, real SC community. And I'm extremely jealous of Combat, too. hahaha posts like that are classic.


Combat, if you want people to consider you legitimately B-, ladder up to B-, post what account you were using to do so, and then the post a rep pack of the games you played to get there. Playing Chill would be nice, but you don't even have to do that. If you played legit to get there, the rep-pack would prove it, wouldn't it?
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zatic
Profile Blog Joined September 2007
Zurich15326 Posts
June 21 2009 08:15 GMT
#207
On June 21 2009 05:05 acnexus wrote:
(5) I will be banned because of my opinions and you know what, I do not care, because you people don't respect anyone who disagrees with you. This is my first and last post here.

Nobody here gets banned for disagreeing or stating their opinion. I hope you don't come back though anyway, we really can't stand martyrs.
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Divinek
Profile Blog Joined November 2006
Canada4045 Posts
June 21 2009 08:41 GMT
#208
On June 21 2009 05:05 acnexus wrote:



acnexus signing out.



automatic douchebag tag for someone who is talking out of their ass and is probably combat on another account. Not likely actually, but I like to think all low post accounts in support are actually combat. But this guy uses full words so it's probably just a blind follower
Never attribute to malice that which can be adequately explained by stupidity.
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7mk
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
Germany10157 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-03-01 18:21:03
June 22 2009 00:50 GMT
#209
On June 21 2009 05:48 Chef wrote:
Show nested quote +
and finally....as hard as this is to say...after reading all these pages of bashing.
i am still gonna try to earn TL's respect....

Do it.

People will be bashing you for a long time now. Mostly small minded people. But if you play legit, you don't bash lower ranks. Your record looks clean, you upload all your replays, and you stop asking for donations and boasting about how good you are... Eventually, people will stop hating you. They might not respect you, but at least they won't despise you. In order to be respect here, you have to be really, really good/helpful/awesome/amiable etc. Shoot for 'not hated.'

The problem with your apologies is that during them you're making tonnes of excuses. This isn't the spirit of an apology IMO it's like you never gave one. But I don't care, as long as you shape up and play honest from now on.



I really agree with pretty much everything Chef says.

And I do agree with you,combat, that there's definitely nobody else with that high an output of videos unfortunately. I'd just suggest that you put quality over quantity though, do more thorough strategical analysis, maybe add the exact BO in the youtube description, talk about soft/ hard counters to the strat etc., add your reps to repdepot.net and add the link to the youtube description

And maybe some day in the not so near future people are gonna post "look for combat-ex vid xx for reference" in the tl strategy forum ^^

Ok I mom Im watching your vod now...
ok interesting analysis "were both gonna try to fuck each other over and who fucks the other guy over first is gonna win " lol :p


oh wow, I'm sorry but the vid is very disappointing
Again youre doing exactly what Chef mentioned:
Your apology is kinda BS, saying "unfortunately TL still hasnt forgiven me... I guess I understand that...but... "
That's not a real apology, you need to just say "I fucked up, I'm sorry, and I truely understand it's gonna take a while to forgive me, dont flame on TL because they are right"
you should not say "well i kinda understand that.. but.."

Also your fanbase's point wasnt really "TL are noobs" but "TL are arrogant" and the way you say it if I didnt know any better I would also start flaming TL cause it make it sound like we're just treating you badly undeservedly.
Since your viewers are noobs they don't even realise just how bad it is to abuse.

About the game itself, it's still very bad.
I understand that you talked about TL in the beginning but still how can you not mention how unusual it is to go for a 2 hatch muta build in ZvP.
Also you say "He's pretty good cause he got one cannon, though he didn't scout my base for the spire"
???!!!
He did scout it, his probe went right to your main even though you had lings blocking the ramp because for some very odd reason you decided not to hold position but instead to click attack the probe, you made a huge micro mistake and let the probe see the spire. But you dont talk about that, you say "he's good for getting a cannon despite not scouting you", wow
Also again, youre going 2 hatch mutas! That is so freaking unusual, how about mentioning it.

Also fyi pro gamers usually dont unstack their mutas against archons when they are in the position you were in(when P pushed out with archon+zealot) , they try to use their range advantage and if possible try to attack from higher ground against archons, and micro it in a way that they don't even get hit by the archon (which you obviously cant do if you spread your mutas)
Ok you actually try to do that a few moments later, but when you say "this is the only time you wanna stack your mutas against archons" you are wrong imho.

somebody correct me if I'm wrong but I really don't think I am.

also you do some really bad stuff
like at the point where you talk about how you muta micro against the gas extractor, you say something like "yeah if youre D- you can do this and you definitely wont die"
This is exactly what you do NOT want to tell someone who is D- because it is soo bad how you Muta micro for what seems like eternity without going back to your base ONCE to macro.
And for what? To damage a fucking extractor?
People are gonna copy these kind of moves instead of learning how to macro properly.
Also you have like 1000overmins despite your economy being really bad since your 3rd base was up so very late.


I mean just generally wth, youre playing someone who builds 3 nexuses in his main base?!
Also you do stuff like lose a big ass army of mutas, more than two control groups to corsairs and you dont even mention it once.

And just... your build... its insane, if you wanna help noobs, why show them a mass muta build ZvP??
wow I swear to god when I started this comment I did not play to bash on you like this but I guess it's been too long since I watched your vods (I used to watch them often actually when I didn't really visit TL yet)
I thought people were exaggerating a bit when they talked about how bad your vods are.
And I'm not some great pro saying this, my ZvP is barely D+, I'm sure if I played your main race you would pwn me badly, but honestly the games Ive played today were of much much higher quality than this vod.
Oh wow and now there's a big chat where youre bashing your opponent about how hes such a stupid noob.... great way to start acting humble from now on...
Wow you even go so far that you add him to your friends list so you can annoy him afterwards...

This is getting worse and worse :S


Ok now after seeing this my suggestion is this: Maybe you should either improve or just post vids playing Protoss from now on, cause honestly this was really really bad.
And if you are still gonna do a ZvP vod, do a freaking 3 hatch spire into hydra or 3hatch spire into lurker or 3hatch spire muta -> 5 hatch hydra , and if you really wanna show your viewers an aggressive build show them a hydra cannon break build, but dont do this insane shit, people aren't gonna become good players like this.


I mean come on, your point is you help noobs.
They dont know how to play whatsoever, they checkout youtube, find your vods, and you give them some way of playing.
Yes, no doubt they are gonna play better than when they had absolutely not even the slightest idea of how to play.
But what youre doing there is still teaching the wrong things.

Let me give you an analogy
If I teach someone basketball, I can show him a completely wrong technique to shoot the ball, but since he practices this technique from now on, he IS gonna get better in the way that he will hit the basket more often -> He will think I taught him right and be happy, but if he keeps using that technique he's undoubtedly never gonna be a good player.
Same thing with your fans, they get better through watching your vods and then playing themselves, they support you since they improved and learned from you but its still so very wrong.


Honestly, even though quite a few people from TL might have a different view on this,
I personally really really dont want you to stop posting vods. I swear its the last thing I want, if something gets more people into starcraft, I always see it as a good thing.
I also didnt really ever believe all the talking about how you just want to become e-famous blablabla I always thought that was bullshit.


But please for the love of god, post better vods, use some standard good strategies, talk about why they are good, talk about what they are good against and what theyre not so good against. Talk about the overall picture of the metagame, not just about "yeah so here im muta microing to kill a lot of probes"...
If the quality of games stays like your game 147 I swear TL's never gonna respect you.



So please, you dont even need to do this for TL, do it for your fans, the better your vods are, the more they are gonna learn, pretty obvious.


And yea stop acting like we are all dicks for not accepting your apology yet.

Fuck,I need to go to bed and calm myself down ^^

Oh and one last thing:
Of course the guy called "Combat_Ex" begging for wins wasn't you, anyone with an IQ higher than 10 can see that but dont pretend like there's a massive amount of copycats and every screenshot is fake.
You abused, you fucked up, period. If you add excuses to your apology it makes the apology worthless.


beep boop
29 fps
Profile Blog Joined March 2008
United States5724 Posts
June 22 2009 03:00 GMT
#210
he has to play people who are better. if he records a VOD where he plays against a bad player, he should NOT UPLOAD IT. even if he records a VOD where he loses, if he can analyze why he lost, that would be more helpful.

oh, and i highly doubt he can gain TLs respect. it's almost a lost cause. not impossible, but it will take a LOT of effort
4v4 is a battle of who has the better computer.
alexpnd
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
Canada1857 Posts
June 22 2009 03:34 GMT
#211
I saw some of his vids and I think as a noob they are fantastic. I came from playing bgh and fastest with my brothers on lan and shit and caught some of his vids and they were interesting. I didnt learn anything but I remember him talking about having an advantage and building 5 facs but I thought it was cool none the less lol. Its good for ppl foreign to the competitive side but I wouldnt say its good for anything past that iirc. Anyways thats to his defense. Other than that yeah clean up cheaters crap the game up for ppl who want to see honest results of their efforts, even if its D vs D.
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MoeMoeKyun
Profile Joined January 2009
United States215 Posts
June 23 2009 15:06 GMT
#212
On June 21 2009 17:41 Divinek wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 21 2009 05:05 acnexus wrote:



acnexus signing out.



automatic douchebag tag for someone who is talking out of their ass and is probably combat on another account. Not likely actually, but I like to think all low post accounts in support are actually combat. But this guy uses full words so it's probably just a blind follower

Lmfao xD
I lol in ur general direction
Piretes
Profile Joined April 2008
Netherlands218 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-06-23 15:38:26
June 23 2009 15:37 GMT
#213
Holy shit watched some of his Zerg vods.. Strategic advice is totally absent, tactical (micro/army) is subpar and incomplete, and half the time he is chatting about stuff, like TL, or his opponent, or how good the game was.

This man needs to read strategy guides. He needs to rethink how he makes his videos. I'm quite sure that if I tried to learn starcraft with his videos I would not come far.

EDIT: totally agree with 7mk
Chill
Profile Blog Joined January 2005
Calgary25980 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-06-23 16:17:00
June 23 2009 15:47 GMT
#214
On June 20 2009 15:00 Combat-EX wrote:
so.. just to prove it, i am willing to game anyone on TL that has maxed at B- rank in a bo5/7/9
im not saying im going to win, but i can garuntee i'll put up a good fight.
the reason i am so confident in this is...because i have gotten B- without abuse on several smurf accounts.

I said I would play you several times. We will stream a bo5 starting on Destination/Medusa (your choice) with the loser of each game picking the next map from the "standard" ICCup map pool.

For reference, here is my account last season: http://www.iccup.com/gamingprofile/proofimbad.html I finished around 50 points from B, and although I hit B a few times throughout the season, I never held it for any significant time. Every game I played on ICCup was streamed, so you can ask the viewers about it.

You are not B-.

Edit: To clarify, you cherry-pick your oppoents, abuse, and play people below your rank. You are not B-.

Edit 2: I don't even care what your skill level is. It's just ridiculous that you assert that you are at a level you are not when you have never proven that. Just stream a season of ICCup to prove it.

Edit 3: Don't feel like this is an aggressive trap to make you play. If you want to show your true skill, you can play me. If you don't, don't. I'm sure if you beat me you will get a lot of respect from TL.
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Holgerius
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
Sweden16951 Posts
June 23 2009 17:07 GMT
#215
I would love to see a Chill vs Combat-Ex Bo5 streamed! :D

Don't chicken out from this, Combat. This is your big chance of getting respect from a great portion of TL.

I believe in the almighty Grötslev! -- I am never serious and you should never believe a thing I say. Including the previous sentence.
meathook
Profile Joined December 2007
1289 Posts
June 23 2009 17:49 GMT
#216
On June 20 2009 15:00 Combat-EX wrote:
and finally....as hard as this is to say...after reading all these pages of bashing.
i am still gonna try to earn TL's respect....
i know this is gonna take a hell of a long time,
but i understand that what i did was a huge crime in this community
i have changed my ways now....you guys won't believe this as of now,but i hope as time goes by and my videos/iccup become more helpful/legit , you guys will see that i have changed.

This will be believable when you delete your youtube account and do not post future vods.

Also, seconding the streamed boX of Chill vs Cowmbat.

Musings: This drama is pretty funny.
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Frits
Profile Joined March 2003
11782 Posts
June 23 2009 17:59 GMT
#217
I'd really like to see a streamed grudge match, would be fun, it's been awhile since the last time TL streamed something iirc.
7mk
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
Germany10157 Posts
June 23 2009 18:33 GMT
#218
On June 24 2009 02:49 meathook wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 20 2009 15:00 Combat-EX wrote:
and finally....as hard as this is to say...after reading all these pages of bashing.
i am still gonna try to earn TL's respect....
i know this is gonna take a hell of a long time,
but i understand that what i did was a huge crime in this community
i have changed my ways now....you guys won't believe this as of now,but i hope as time goes by and my videos/iccup become more helpful/legit , you guys will see that i have changed.

This will be believable when you delete your youtube account and do not post future vods.

Also, seconding the streamed boX of Chill vs Cowmbat.

Musings: This drama is pretty funny.


combat was obviously preferring to his abusing there, so why would he delete his youtube account/ not post any more vods, since those two can't be considered "crime"

but yeah I'm certainly crossing my fingers for this BO5 to actually happen
man, I love TL :p
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floor exercise
Profile Blog Joined August 2008
Canada5847 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-06-23 18:42:00
June 23 2009 18:41 GMT
#219
Honestly Chill is the best opponent he can face. He is respected by everyone here, he is a known B- player and there will be no doubt of Combat's skill level if he plays Chill in close games. I don't think he even has to win, if he loses 3-1 or 3-2 in really close games that is a strong argument for Combat being a B- level player. I mean for someone who wants to earn the respect of the community this is the single best opportunity available to him, he has nothing to lose because even manning up playing Chill at this point is worth points in the eyes of the SC community.

Not only that but it would make a big event that will get his name out there even more, I don't think anyone in the community would want to miss it
VIB
Profile Blog Joined November 2007
Brazil3567 Posts
June 23 2009 19:33 GMT
#220
Chill vs Combat would be epic.

I didn't read any of what combat said and I don't think someone like him could ever be respected as an honest person again. But a streamed match vs Chill just can't go wrong. If Chill wins it's gonna be hilarious because we're gonna make so much fun of Combat. And if Combat wins... wow... Chill is gonna be mocked of for the rest of his career, I cannot miss that
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Ancestral
Profile Blog Joined August 2007
United States3230 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-06-23 20:13:11
June 23 2009 20:10 GMT
#221
I hope you all realize that the fact Combat puts out "a lot" of "content" doesn't matter when you can just watch people like Ret, Louder, Machine, and Lz laddering live all the time.

Edit: I guess not Machine, I guess I recall his being the target of a preponderant amount of shit talk rather than his streaming.
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Yaqoob
Profile Blog Joined March 2005
Canada3323 Posts
June 23 2009 20:15 GMT
#222
I'd actually be impressed if Combat-EX actually accepted and play Chill in a best of 5. I don't even think he will do that.
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Ancestral
Profile Blog Joined August 2007
United States3230 Posts
June 23 2009 20:20 GMT
#223
On June 24 2009 05:15 Yaqoob wrote:
I'd actually be impressed if Combat-EX actually accepted and play Chill in a best of 5. I don't even think he will do that.

He must have some sort of mental complex. There's no way any normal can be as full of shit as he is and not realize they have a problem. Compulsive lying, cheating, and exaggerating is not something normal people do.

He will never play Chill in a Bo5 if it were streamed live / commented because that would ruin his "reputation." I don't even think his minions would care if he lost though. Why does he care so strongly about people thinking he's good and listening to his advice? Something is wrong with him.
The Nature and purpose of the martial way are universal; all selfish desires must be roasted in the tempering fires of hard training. - Masutatsu Oyama
Chill
Profile Blog Joined January 2005
Calgary25980 Posts
June 23 2009 20:26 GMT
#224
You guys are completely missing the point.

It doesn't matter that he is a bad player. It doesn't matter that he is cocky. It doesn't matter that there are people releasing better content. It doesn't matter that he says wrong things. It doesn't matter that he released videos of him winning and usually playing worse players. It doesn't matter than his goal is to promote himself. These details don't matter at all and don't enter the equation.

He abused dozens of times. He was caught, apologized, and now pulled the same shit. He justifies it by saying he is that good and just got lazy. I argue that he is not that good. He achieved that ruse by cherry picking bad players and abusing, then used that result (through some circular logic) to justify his strategies (even though they should stand up with their own merit) and in turn justify his further abuse.

Basically, I don't care that he's terrible. I don't care that everyone thinks he's good. I don't want our community to stand for abuse. That's the bottom line. If you want redemption, stream your ICCup adventures getting to B-. Period. If you want to jump start that, play me. If you don't give a fuck, then don't give a fuck, and things will proceed as they are: Competitive players chastise you for belittling our competition, and weak players who couldn't care less about competition will praise you for helping them. That's a fine result.
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Ancestral
Profile Blog Joined August 2007
United States3230 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-06-23 20:30:50
June 23 2009 20:29 GMT
#225
Well I think lying, cheating, and exaggerating includes ladder abuse. I think they are all bad and he should do none of them, but maybe that's not the point.

He's lying because he says he's B- but won't play you to prove it. He exaggerates by ... saying he's B- I guess. He cheats by abusing on the ladder. I don't think any are acceptable. He acts like he has something to prove but won't because it's not true.

Edit: I guess the lying can include lying about abuse, which he has done on multiple occasions. Perhaps I'm missing the "point," I am only articulating what I interpret the problem with him to be.
The Nature and purpose of the martial way are universal; all selfish desires must be roasted in the tempering fires of hard training. - Masutatsu Oyama
Chill
Profile Blog Joined January 2005
Calgary25980 Posts
June 23 2009 20:31 GMT
#226
Fine, if you think lying and exaggerating are wrong, that's your opinion. But it's not something to act on, it's something to affect your personal opinion.

Abusing is something to act on. It's why I'm going to play him and show he is not B-.
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floor exercise
Profile Blog Joined August 2008
Canada5847 Posts
June 23 2009 20:44 GMT
#227
I'm just trying to make a compelling argument for him to play instead of continuing to dodge because I want to watch Chill vs Combat. Sadly I kind of know it will never happen because along with being a liar and a cheat, Combat is also a coward
VIB
Profile Blog Joined November 2007
Brazil3567 Posts
June 23 2009 20:50 GMT
#228
On June 24 2009 05:31 Chill wrote:
It's why I'm going to play him and show he is not B-.
Woot! Live stream with cast or it didn't happen!
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floor exercise
Profile Blog Joined August 2008
Canada5847 Posts
June 23 2009 21:03 GMT
#229
I just checked Combat's youtube channel and 3 days ago he posted vods using the nick "Im_D--" which has an awful record naturally but it looks like 3 days after his apology video he is right back to abusing

http://www.iccup.com/matchlist/722453/1x1/page1.html

3 games against eLiTe-TerraN who opts not to build any units, a strategic error that gives Combat the easy 3-0
eshlow
Profile Joined June 2008
United States5210 Posts
June 23 2009 21:09 GMT
#230
On June 24 2009 06:03 floor exercise wrote:
I just checked Combat's youtube channel and 3 days ago he posted vods using the nick "Im_D--" which has an awful record naturally but it looks like 3 days after his apology video he is right back to abusing

http://www.iccup.com/matchlist/722453/1x1/page1.html

3 games against eLiTe-TerraN who opts not to build any units, a strategic error that gives Combat the easy 3-0


This thread just gets better and better.

*facepalm*
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VIB
Profile Blog Joined November 2007
Brazil3567 Posts
June 23 2009 21:17 GMT
#231
On June 24 2009 06:03 floor exercise wrote:
I just checked Combat's youtube channel and 3 days ago he posted vods using the nick "Im_D--" which has an awful record naturally but it looks like 3 days after his apology video he is right back to abusing

http://www.iccup.com/matchlist/722453/1x1/page1.html

3 games against eLiTe-TerraN who opts not to build any units, a strategic error that gives Combat the easy 3-0
Someone tell Chill not to do that same strategy. Combat clearly knows how to beat it. Does he have a vod teaching us how to beat someone who doesn't build any units? That would be very educational.
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Chill
Profile Blog Joined January 2005
Calgary25980 Posts
June 23 2009 21:20 GMT
#232
On June 24 2009 06:03 floor exercise wrote:
I just checked Combat's youtube channel and 3 days ago he posted vods using the nick "Im_D--" which has an awful record naturally but it looks like 3 days after his apology video he is right back to abusing

http://www.iccup.com/matchlist/722453/1x1/page1.html

3 games against eLiTe-TerraN who opts not to build any units, a strategic error that gives Combat the easy 3-0

fml
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YPang
Profile Blog Joined April 2007
United States4024 Posts
June 23 2009 21:21 GMT
#233
............................................he's fucken dumb and sad at the same time.
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AoN.DimSum
Profile Blog Joined September 2008
United States2983 Posts
June 23 2009 21:22 GMT
#234
hahaha this is so funny
by my idol krokkis : "U better hope Finland wont have WCG next year and that I wont gain shitloads of skill, cause then I will wash ur mouth with soap, little man."
Yaqoob
Profile Blog Joined March 2005
Canada3323 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-06-23 21:27:03
June 23 2009 21:24 GMT
#235
It seems he cannot stop abusing but in those 3 games the 'elite-Terran' did build units or am I missing something?
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floor exercise
Profile Blog Joined August 2008
Canada5847 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-06-23 21:34:04
June 23 2009 21:29 GMT
#236
Yeah its only the third game he doesn't build anything, I guess I clicked on it twice because I was certain I checked two. Either way those last 4 are abuse

http://www.iccup.com/details/545391.html

Also every game until the last 4 against 0-0 players that last 3 minutes each have been public games, just enough to bump him up to C-
AoN.DimSum
Profile Blog Joined September 2008
United States2983 Posts
June 23 2009 21:31 GMT
#237
i really thought combat-ex would be smarter. Why wouldnt he just abuse and then switch accounts. But he just abuses with the account he makes vods with lol
by my idol krokkis : "U better hope Finland wont have WCG next year and that I wont gain shitloads of skill, cause then I will wash ur mouth with soap, little man."
VIB
Profile Blog Joined November 2007
Brazil3567 Posts
June 23 2009 21:40 GMT
#238
On June 24 2009 06:31 AoN.DimSum wrote:
i really thought combat-ex would be smarter. Why wouldnt he just abuse and then switch accounts. But he just abuses with the account he makes vods with lol
He wants to ladder up his vod account so youtube people think he got skillz.

Hey Manifesto7. That's a brilliant way to "build a fanbase" isn't it?
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Chill
Profile Blog Joined January 2005
Calgary25980 Posts
June 23 2009 21:44 GMT
#239
I guess he will say that's not him. So let's wait for his word before everyone jumps on this.
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7mk
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
Germany10157 Posts
June 23 2009 22:16 GMT
#240
wow.............

I was gonna say something about this but I'll follow the word of our strategic leader ^^
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Purind
Profile Blog Joined April 2004
Canada3562 Posts
June 23 2009 22:35 GMT
#241
Wow, that is incredibly awesome

Though it's plausible for a combat-ex hater to see what account he's using in his vods, then take that account on ICCUP and make him look bad, it takes real dedication to do it for 61 games
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koreasilver
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
9109 Posts
June 23 2009 22:39 GMT
#242
On June 24 2009 06:29 floor exercise wrote:
Yeah its only the third game he doesn't build anything, I guess I clicked on it twice because I was certain I checked two. Either way those last 4 are abuse

http://www.iccup.com/details/545391.html

Also every game until the last 4 against 0-0 players that last 3 minutes each have been public games, just enough to bump him up to C-

Did he think that everyone on his ass all had a brain aneurysm or something?
VIB
Profile Blog Joined November 2007
Brazil3567 Posts
June 23 2009 22:39 GMT
#243
On June 24 2009 07:35 Purind wrote:
Wow, that is incredibly awesome

Though it's plausible for a combat-ex hater to see what account he's using in his vods, then take that account on ICCUP and make him look bad, it takes real dedication to do it for 61 games
How can someone "take that account on ICCUP" if that account belongs to Combat-ex, as you can see in his vods? You cannot make another acc with the same name. Or am I missing something?
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Chill
Profile Blog Joined January 2005
Calgary25980 Posts
June 23 2009 22:58 GMT
#244
http://www.iccup.com/matchlist/531210/1x1.html
it was probably this account
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VIB
Profile Blog Joined November 2007
Brazil3567 Posts
June 23 2009 23:08 GMT
#245
On June 24 2009 07:58 Chill wrote:
http://www.iccup.com/matchlist/531210/1x1.html
it was probably this account
floor exercise said it was the other one on the vod. Link to what vod you were talking about, floor exercise?
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AoN.DimSum
Profile Blog Joined September 2008
United States2983 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-06-23 23:15:00
June 23 2009 23:08 GMT
#246
it looks like 2 dashes from what the vod showed

http://img23.imageshack.us/img23/9760/combatex.png


also from im_d- account, he 2v2s with combat-ex, he might be both accounts or its just his friend
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jimminy_kriket
Profile Blog Joined February 2007
Canada5502 Posts
June 23 2009 23:23 GMT
#247
it would be fun to see combat vs one of the fastest players from This thread considering how much he bashes fastest players in his latest vid.
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floor exercise
Profile Blog Joined August 2008
Canada5847 Posts
June 23 2009 23:31 GMT
#248
It was definitely Im_D-- in the youtube video here


that game was June 18th. I'm not an internet detective or anything I just wanted to check his iccup rank to see who he was playing because the guy built 3 nexuses in his base for some reason and noticed there was 4 freewins giving him just enough points to reach C-
ahswtini
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
Northern Ireland22208 Posts
June 23 2009 23:37 GMT
#249
lol, more Combat-Ex scandals -_-
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Sentenal
Profile Blog Joined December 2007
United States12398 Posts
June 23 2009 23:52 GMT
#250
Im_D-- is definitely Combat, or at least, he uses/used that account. That ZvP he did on Othello (the one he made the FPVOD of) was this game right here.

lawl more abuse
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pinenamu
Profile Blog Joined September 2006
United States770 Posts
June 24 2009 01:29 GMT
#251
lol that extermination guy owned combat-ex 3-1 from the match list and he made a "Do you think Combat-ex should be forgiven?" thread. And the guy's D+ haha

http://www.iccup.com/starcraft/forum/general_forum/general_discussion_/72818.html
MoeMoeKyun
Profile Joined January 2009
United States215 Posts
June 24 2009 01:38 GMT
#252
Wow he was like an entirely different person that commentary.....
I lol in ur general direction
Kentor *
Profile Blog Joined December 2007
United States5784 Posts
June 24 2009 01:46 GMT
#253
"If I was playing in a fastest ladder, I would be A+. maybe not, but you know..."

oh god
VIB
Profile Blog Joined November 2007
Brazil3567 Posts
June 24 2009 01:51 GMT
#254
On June 24 2009 08:52 Sentenal wrote:
Im_D-- is definitely Combat, or at least, he uses/used that account. That ZvP he did on Othello (the one he made the FPVOD of) was this game right here.

lawl more abuse
So basically. Around page 10 of this thread. When Combat made a huge ass post saying he is innocent yadda yadda. And people were defending him saying "but he appologized! bla bla". While people were typing that, during that same time, Combat-ex was on ICCUP... abusing... interesting ^^
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only.her0
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
Singapore78 Posts
June 24 2009 07:38 GMT
#255
maybe combat is trolling us all
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fanatacist
Profile Blog Joined August 2007
10319 Posts
June 24 2009 08:01 GMT
#256
On June 24 2009 16:38 only.her0 wrote:
maybe combat is trolling us all

Would be insane. Not as bad as Gosu/Toad though.

BO5 GOGOGO
You abusing imbecile......
Peace~
VIB
Profile Blog Joined November 2007
Brazil3567 Posts
June 24 2009 08:03 GMT
#257
It would be hilarious if during the last match of a Bo5 livecast against chill. Just before he gets 3-0'ed he would start begging for a win just for trolling sake.
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Hyperionnn
Profile Blog Joined September 2007
Turkey4968 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-06-24 08:16:39
June 24 2009 08:15 GMT
#258
Wow in this vod combat had no hydra speed until 20 min of the game hahahah
PriitM
Profile Blog Joined March 2008
Algeria181 Posts
June 24 2009 08:24 GMT
#259
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Sentenal
Profile Blog Joined December 2007
United States12398 Posts
June 24 2009 09:00 GMT
#260
On June 24 2009 17:03 VIB wrote:
It would be hilarious if during the last match of a Bo5 livecast against chill. Just before he gets 3-0'ed he would start begging for a win just for trolling sake.

If he did that, I would probably die laughing.
"Apparently, Sentenal is a paragon of friendship and tolerance. " - Ech0ne
PriitM
Profile Blog Joined March 2008
Algeria181 Posts
June 24 2009 09:18 GMT
#261
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meathook
Profile Joined December 2007
1289 Posts
June 24 2009 13:07 GMT
#262
On June 24 2009 03:33 7mk wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 24 2009 02:49 meathook wrote:
On June 20 2009 15:00 Combat-EX wrote:
and finally....as hard as this is to say...after reading all these pages of bashing.
i am still gonna try to earn TL's respect....
i know this is gonna take a hell of a long time,
but i understand that what i did was a huge crime in this community
i have changed my ways now....you guys won't believe this as of now,but i hope as time goes by and my videos/iccup become more helpful/legit , you guys will see that i have changed.

This will be believable when you delete your youtube account and do not post future vods.

Also, seconding the streamed boX of Chill vs Cowmbat.

Musings: This drama is pretty funny.


combat was obviously preferring to his abusing there, so why would he delete his youtube account/ not post any more vods, since those two can't be considered "crime"

but yeah I'm certainly crossing my fingers for this BO5 to actually happen
man, I love TL :p

Yeah, you are right, he was talking about the abuse.. I guess I just want all those videos gone, because they are so embarrassing and bad. Esp. after watching that (well, part 3 anyway) most recent pvz he posted... On top of that, he already abused on his new account.. Combat - the king of fail. With Combat, people will never know whether to laugh or cry.
On June 24 2009 17:01 fanatacist wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 24 2009 16:38 only.her0 wrote:
maybe combat is trolling us all

Would be insane. Not as bad as Gosu/Toad though.

BO5 GOGOGO
You abusing imbecile......

That would be a close match. But still, Chill vs Combat is more interesting because of the drama.
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PriitM
Profile Blog Joined March 2008
Algeria181 Posts
June 24 2009 21:13 GMT
#263
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Combat-EX
Profile Joined October 2008
Canada32 Posts
June 25 2009 02:15 GMT
#264
ok, im still on vacation but i got a hold of a computer and i'll reply to a few things i saw here..

firstly, i will agree to play chill in a bo5 , be livestreamed or commentated or whatever
and FYI. i have never dodged chill, ive actually asked him for more games and he refused as vs vice versa....although i dont want to start a whole discussion about all this, either way, it doesn't matter....i don't dodge chill.
i will need some time to practice, because im gonna come back from my vacation tmrw, and i'll need some time to get back into my game. but i will play chill within the next month.
im definatly not saying im gonna win, or even win a single game on that matter, because i know chill is probably better then me, ive played him before, but i'll play him just cuz TL has wanted it for ages.
and il consider streaming every game i play and posting on TL jst to prove i can get B-, although if the software and such is too hard to download and upload on TL, then im not gonna go through the trouble., i can simply just save all the replays and show anyone the replay that seems suspecious.

SECONDLY, and more importantly....
are u guys dumb?
what kind of retard posts a video on youtube that over 3000 people view, and then abuses with that same account like a few days later..EVEN AFTER making an apology video mainly because of this abuse.. like honestly....thats pretty messed up
if anyone here actually watches all my videos, more then 30% of them are recorded on accounts that are NOT combat-ex...
and my password for all these other accounts WAS 123456... (my password for combat-ex is different and i have changed the pw for all these other accounts)
i just never thought some retard would take the time to try and find out the password for all the accounts i record videos on and then show some abusing games.

i DO play on im_d--, and me and a friend share a few of these accounts (thats why the pw was so basic)
and for people that are saying my record is bad...well if u wanna look at my stats, THEN ACTUALLY LOOK at them.
on im_d--, the majority of games are ZvZ, because on that account i like to work on my ZvZ.'
and i have many other accounts that i focus on specific matchups for offraces.

and for anyone saying my Terran or Zerg is D- level, (i think ive proved my protoss isn't), then il be glad to play any of these players. i also have many seasons where ive gotten both terran to C and zerg to C+, its very easy to point out errors when ur watching a vod, but for the people that are being so dam critical on every error i make, please....stfu

i realize my T and Z are a lot worse then my protoss, and i've considered sticking to only protoss VOD's, but then 2/3 of the D- players wouldn't be able to benefit. and ...this will sound repetitive, but i feel i must state that...i know there are better vod's out there, but none whom i know provide constant vods at constant rate.
and i will try VERY hard to improve the commentary on my vids, so i go through the game play and why things are done the way shown.

i think this is all i have to say.

Hyde
Profile Blog Joined November 2007
Australia14568 Posts
June 25 2009 02:25 GMT
#265
OH! It's on! Bo5 against Chill, I want to see this. Will Chill answer the call?

Btw there are two guides on TL which show instructions on how to stream, the amount of people streaming have risen so I'm guessing those guides are easy to follow and you shouldn't have any trouble.
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Manifesto7
Profile Blog Joined November 2002
Osaka27148 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-06-25 03:10:24
June 25 2009 02:30 GMT
#266
On June 25 2009 11:15 Combat-EX wrote:
blah blah blah


HERE
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Clow
Profile Blog Joined September 2008
Brazil880 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-06-25 02:32:00
June 25 2009 02:30 GMT
#267
I don't think streaming would be a problem, Chill does it all the time.
Date?
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Kyo Yuy
Profile Joined January 2009
United States1286 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-06-25 04:41:43
June 25 2009 04:41 GMT
#268
On June 25 2009 11:15 Combat-EX wrote:
ok, im still on vacation but i got a hold of a computer and i'll reply to a few things i saw here..

firstly, i will agree to play chill in a bo5 , be livestreamed or commentated or whatever
and FYI. i have never dodged chill, ive actually asked him for more games and he refused as vs vice versa....although i dont want to start a whole discussion about all this, either way, it doesn't matter....i don't dodge chill.
i will need some time to practice, because im gonna come back from my vacation tmrw, and i'll need some time to get back into my game. but i will play chill within the next month.

Give a specific date. If you fail to play Chill on the specified date you are dodging

I think this is all I have to say.
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Chill
Profile Blog Joined January 2005
Calgary25980 Posts
June 25 2009 04:42 GMT
#269
S'on.
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eshlow
Profile Joined June 2008
United States5210 Posts
June 25 2009 04:58 GMT
#270
On June 25 2009 13:41 Kyo Yuy wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 25 2009 11:15 Combat-EX wrote:
ok, im still on vacation but i got a hold of a computer and i'll reply to a few things i saw here..

firstly, i will agree to play chill in a bo5 , be livestreamed or commentated or whatever
and FYI. i have never dodged chill, ive actually asked him for more games and he refused as vs vice versa....although i dont want to start a whole discussion about all this, either way, it doesn't matter....i don't dodge chill.
i will need some time to practice, because im gonna come back from my vacation tmrw, and i'll need some time to get back into my game. but i will play chill within the next month.

Give a specific date. If you fail to play Chill on the specified date you are dodging

I think this is all I have to say.


Agreed.

Date and a time.
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illu
Profile Blog Joined December 2008
Canada2531 Posts
June 25 2009 04:59 GMT
#271
On June 25 2009 13:41 Kyo Yuy wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 25 2009 11:15 Combat-EX wrote:
ok, im still on vacation but i got a hold of a computer and i'll reply to a few things i saw here..

firstly, i will agree to play chill in a bo5 , be livestreamed or commentated or whatever
and FYI. i have never dodged chill, ive actually asked him for more games and he refused as vs vice versa....although i dont want to start a whole discussion about all this, either way, it doesn't matter....i don't dodge chill.
i will need some time to practice, because im gonna come back from my vacation tmrw, and i'll need some time to get back into my game. but i will play chill within the next month.

Give a specific date. If you fail to play Chill on the specified date you are dodging

I think this is all I have to say.


They need to play the games in the same room on LAN (so there are no excuses of lagging, computer on fire, dog ate the modem, etc.) while other Toronto TLers are watching. XD
:]
pinenamu
Profile Blog Joined September 2006
United States770 Posts
June 25 2009 04:59 GMT
#272
On June 25 2009 11:15 Combat-EX wrote:
i DO play on im_d--, and me and a friend share a few of these accounts (thats why the pw was so basic)
and for people that are saying my record is bad...well if u wanna look at my stats, THEN ACTUALLY LOOK at them.
on im_d--, the majority of games are ZvZ, because on that account i like to work on my ZvZ.'
and i have many other accounts that i focus on specific matchups for offraces.


Zerg 17-14 | 54.8% | 31 games
vZ 7-8 | 46.7%
vP 3-0 | 100%
vT 7-6 | 53.8%
Protoss 10-8 | 55.6% | 18 games
vZ 3-5 | 37.5%
vP 0-0 | 0%
vT 7-3 | 70%
Terran 2-8 | 20% | 10 games
vZ 0-1 | 0%
vP 0-5 | 0%
vT 2-2 | 50%

i looked at them.. i don't see ZvZ as the majority of the games lol. your ZvZ isn't even spectacular or anything in this account haha, so i guess your record can be simply described as bad for someone claiming to be B-.
MaZza[KIS]
Profile Joined December 2005
Australia2110 Posts
June 25 2009 06:19 GMT
#273
On June 25 2009 11:30 Manifesto7 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 25 2009 11:15 Combat-EX wrote:
blah blah blah


HERE


Mani, you honestly expect him to comprehend that article and the relevance to his situation?

He can't see what you see. He's probably too young and just going through a stage. Hopefully, for his sake, his approach changes.

I found the read interesting though :-). Thanks.
I really wanted a bigger opponent, like Nate Marquardt, or King Neptune, or Zeus, or Zeus and Fedor, or Fedor on Zeus's shoulders, and they can both punch but only Zeus can kick.
7mk
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
Germany10157 Posts
June 25 2009 09:52 GMT
#274
On June 25 2009 13:42 Chill wrote:
S'on.

haha


sweeeeet, epic Chill v Combat-Ex BO5
Please get someone great to do commentary on the game..
Or let just LZgamer do it on his stream

oh the drama

beep boop
DoX.)
Profile Joined December 2008
Singapore6164 Posts
June 25 2009 10:53 GMT
#275
gogogo yes yes
rei
Profile Blog Joined October 2002
United States3594 Posts
June 25 2009 14:22 GMT
#276
Chill is B+ on iccup right?
GET OUT OF MY BASE CHILL
YPang
Profile Blog Joined April 2007
United States4024 Posts
June 25 2009 14:45 GMT
#277
combat how can you not be able to beat chill ONCE if you say you are B, and Chill is B?
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Holgerius
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
Sweden16951 Posts
June 25 2009 15:48 GMT
#278
On June 25 2009 23:45 YPang wrote:
combat how can you not be able to beat chill ONCE if you say you are B, and Chill is B?

He has beaten Chill before, so he's capable of it.

The time for this epic event must be announced well before it happens, and it must be streamed. :D

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TheSchwA
Profile Blog Joined April 2007
United States248 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-06-25 18:21:48
June 25 2009 18:16 GMT
#279
I don't understand why this would still matter... Although, what he's said and done is pretty weak.
ArtLu
Purind
Profile Blog Joined April 2004
Canada3562 Posts
June 26 2009 00:09 GMT
#280
On June 24 2009 07:39 VIB wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 24 2009 07:35 Purind wrote:
Wow, that is incredibly awesome

Though it's plausible for a combat-ex hater to see what account he's using in his vods, then take that account on ICCUP and make him look bad, it takes real dedication to do it for 61 games
How can someone "take that account on ICCUP" if that account belongs to Combat-ex, as you can see in his vods? You cannot make another acc with the same name. Or am I missing something?


Nope I'm the one that's missing something. For some reason I thought that he used that name on a bnet server, like US West or something and someone could have stolen that name on ICCUP, but he posts his ICCUP games doesn't he?
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VIB
Profile Blog Joined November 2007
Brazil3567 Posts
June 26 2009 00:19 GMT
#281
On June 26 2009 09:09 Purind wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 24 2009 07:39 VIB wrote:
On June 24 2009 07:35 Purind wrote:
Wow, that is incredibly awesome

Though it's plausible for a combat-ex hater to see what account he's using in his vods, then take that account on ICCUP and make him look bad, it takes real dedication to do it for 61 games
How can someone "take that account on ICCUP" if that account belongs to Combat-ex, as you can see in his vods? You cannot make another acc with the same name. Or am I missing something?


Nope I'm the one that's missing something. For some reason I thought that he used that name on a bnet server, like US West or something and someone could have stolen that name on ICCUP, but he posts his ICCUP games doesn't he?
Not sure if you missed this one as well:
On June 25 2009 11:15 Combat-EX wrote:
SECONDLY, and more importantly....
are u guys dumb?
what kind of retard posts a video on youtube that over 3000 people view, and then abuses with that same account like a few days later..EVEN AFTER making an apology video mainly because of this abuse.. like honestly....thats pretty messed up
if anyone here actually watches all my videos, more then 30% of them are recorded on accounts that are NOT combat-ex...
and my password for all these other accounts WAS 123456... (my password for combat-ex is different and i have changed the pw for all these other accounts)
i just never thought some retard would take the time to try and find out the password for all the accounts i record videos on and then show some abusing games.
On June 25 2009 11:15 Combat-EX wrote:
are u guys dumb?
[...]
and my password for all these other accounts WAS 123456...
On June 25 2009 11:15 Combat-EX wrote:
are u guys dumb?
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AoN.DimSum
Profile Blog Joined September 2008
United States2983 Posts
June 26 2009 01:10 GMT
#282
this reminds me of the south park episode where cartman's ego kept telling him that he made the gay fish joke
by my idol krokkis : "U better hope Finland wont have WCG next year and that I wont gain shitloads of skill, cause then I will wash ur mouth with soap, little man."
MorningMusume11
Profile Blog Joined November 2007
United States3490 Posts
June 26 2009 01:22 GMT
#283
On June 24 2009 08:31 floor exercise wrote:
It was definitely Im_D-- in the youtube video here http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CyGoyb52J5E

that game was June 18th. I'm not an internet detective or anything I just wanted to check his iccup rank to see who he was playing because the guy built 3 nexuses in his base for some reason and noticed there was 4 freewins giving him just enough points to reach C-


lol that 3 nex made me wtf a lot :D
Sentenal
Profile Blog Joined December 2007
United States12398 Posts
June 26 2009 01:39 GMT
#284
On June 26 2009 10:22 MorningMusume11 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 24 2009 08:31 floor exercise wrote:
It was definitely Im_D-- in the youtube video here http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CyGoyb52J5E

that game was June 18th. I'm not an internet detective or anything I just wanted to check his iccup rank to see who he was playing because the guy built 3 nexuses in his base for some reason and noticed there was 4 freewins giving him just enough points to reach C-


lol that 3 nex made me wtf a lot :D

lol, just looking at the preview picture for that youtube video shows how quality of a game it is. It has one guy saying "I made like 4 nexuses in my base", and the other one replies "im playing wit my feet".

YA, WHAT A GREAT GAME FOR NOOBS TO LEARN FROM LOL
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ZeeTemplar
Profile Blog Joined October 2008
United States557 Posts
June 26 2009 01:40 GMT
#285
On June 26 2009 10:22 MorningMusume11 wrote:
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On June 24 2009 08:31 floor exercise wrote:
It was definitely Im_D-- in the youtube video here http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CyGoyb52J5E

that game was June 18th. I'm not an internet detective or anything I just wanted to check his iccup rank to see who he was playing because the guy built 3 nexuses in his base for some reason and noticed there was 4 freewins giving him just enough points to reach C-


lol that 3 nex made me wtf a lot :D



he sucks :/
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Ancestral
Profile Blog Joined August 2007
United States3230 Posts
June 26 2009 01:49 GMT
#286
On June 26 2009 10:40 ZeeTemplar wrote:
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On June 26 2009 10:22 MorningMusume11 wrote:
On June 24 2009 08:31 floor exercise wrote:
It was definitely Im_D-- in the youtube video here http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CyGoyb52J5E

that game was June 18th. I'm not an internet detective or anything I just wanted to check his iccup rank to see who he was playing because the guy built 3 nexuses in his base for some reason and noticed there was 4 freewins giving him just enough points to reach C-


lol that 3 nex made me wtf a lot :D



he sucks :/

If you look at the 3 Nexus guys stats they aren't horrible. I think he just did that and then got raped in the way Incontrol made 6 or 7 spires in TL Attack and got raped.
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frogmelter
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States971 Posts
June 26 2009 02:15 GMT
#287
On June 25 2009 11:15 Combat-EX wrote:
firstly, i will agree to play chill in a bo5 , be livestreamed or commentated or whatever
and FYI. i have never dodged chill, ive actually asked him for more games and he refused as vs vice versa....although i dont want to start a whole discussion about all this, either way, it doesn't matter....i don't dodge chill.
i will need some time to practice, because im gonna come back from my vacation tmrw, and i'll need some time to get back into my game. but i will play chill within the next month.
im definatly not saying im gonna win, or even win a single game on that matter, because i know chill is probably better then me, ive played him before, but i'll play him just cuz TL has wanted it for ages.
and il consider streaming every game i play and posting on TL jst to prove i can get B-, although if the software and such is too hard to download and upload on TL, then im not gonna go through the trouble., i can simply just save all the replays and show anyone the replay that seems suspecious



Thank you Combat

Maybe you are not beyond redemption
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eshlow
Profile Joined June 2008
United States5210 Posts
June 26 2009 06:20 GMT
#288
3 nex is supposedly the way to play in fastest I think if you're going economy IIRC.

So I guess he's a converted money map player which is good..... but obviously it's not good on non-money maps.

But yeah, not the best person to be playing when you're supposedly B-
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Husky
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
United States3362 Posts
June 26 2009 16:03 GMT
#289
On June 26 2009 11:15 frogmelter wrote:
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On June 25 2009 11:15 Combat-EX wrote:
firstly, i will agree to play chill in a bo5 , be livestreamed or commentated or whatever
and FYI. i have never dodged chill, ive actually asked him for more games and he refused as vs vice versa....although i dont want to start a whole discussion about all this, either way, it doesn't matter....i don't dodge chill.
i will need some time to practice, because im gonna come back from my vacation tmrw, and i'll need some time to get back into my game. but i will play chill within the next month.
im definatly not saying im gonna win, or even win a single game on that matter, because i know chill is probably better then me, ive played him before, but i'll play him just cuz TL has wanted it for ages.
and il consider streaming every game i play and posting on TL jst to prove i can get B-, although if the software and such is too hard to download and upload on TL, then im not gonna go through the trouble., i can simply just save all the replays and show anyone the replay that seems suspecious



Thank you Combat

Maybe you are not beyond redemption


No, he is still a lying/abusing player. Look at the stats from three of his most recent games:

http://www.iccup.com/details/545391.html
http://www.iccup.com/details/545454.html
http://www.iccup.com/details/545206.html

You seriously think he won those games every time by making 15 or less units? Especially against the same person 3 times?

Please, there is a reason his shit got banned, and thats because he's a liar/cheater. Live with it, he will not change.
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CrimsonLotus
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
Colombia1123 Posts
June 26 2009 17:10 GMT
#290
lol, what is the point of this Bo5 with Chill?

I dont think the problem here is his skill level. Instead, is the fact that he abused many times, behavior that seems to continue and that taints anything positive he may have done for the community.

If he just stopped abusing (god, how is it so hard to NOT CHEAT in a VIDEO GAME?) i believe most people would just stop flaming him.

And if he stopped talking shit about his rank, stupidly bragging in his videos and basicly stop being so inmature, he could very well get to be a respected member of the community one day, but he just keep on stabying himself. I just don't get how is it that someone who clearly cares so much about what others think of him, keeps doing stuff like this so that everyone despise him.
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fanatacist
Profile Blog Joined August 2007
10319 Posts
June 26 2009 17:23 GMT
#291
Because some people would rather lead a few thousand dumbfounded dipshits who are blinded by their lies than put in effort to garner the respect of a community that focuses on skill and fair play.
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Hot_Bid
Profile Blog Joined October 2003
Braavos36374 Posts
June 26 2009 17:54 GMT
#292
i can't imagine what he was thinking by agreeing to play chill then backing out of it within 48 hours with a really lame bullshit excuse that is 100% a clear dodge.

that hurts his reputation even more, and that's very hard to do considering how shitty people view him already
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fanatacist
Profile Blog Joined August 2007
10319 Posts
June 26 2009 18:26 GMT
#293
On June 27 2009 02:54 Hot_Bid wrote:
i can't imagine what he was thinking by agreeing to play chill then backing out of it within 48 hours with a really lame bullshit excuse that is 100% a clear dodge.

that hurts his reputation even more, and that's very hard to do considering how shitty people view him already

He backed out of it? Where?
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Hot_Bid
Profile Blog Joined October 2003
Braavos36374 Posts
June 26 2009 19:04 GMT
#294
in the thread chill made, within 48 hours of agreeing to it

he said because iccup banned his accounts he can't play, despite that he can
a) register a new account
b) buy or receive a donated copy of the game ($10) and legit CD key
c) play on a alternate server like SC2GG or Hamachi

instead, its a dodge!
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fanatacist
Profile Blog Joined August 2007
10319 Posts
June 26 2009 19:22 GMT
#295
That sucks. Link?

If his ICCup accounts are banned though, he better not post any more videos. If he does, it makes his dodge that much more blatant.
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MoeMoeKyun
Profile Joined January 2009
United States215 Posts
June 27 2009 21:38 GMT
#296
On June 27 2009 02:10 CrimsonLotus wrote:
lol, what is the point of this Bo5 with Chill?

Uh, because watching live games of Chill is awesome....?
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pinenamu
Profile Blog Joined September 2006
United States770 Posts
June 28 2009 00:01 GMT
#297
On June 26 2009 05:48 Chill wrote:
EMERGENCY:

[14:48] ψåšÏƒ: hmm
[14:48] ψåšÏƒ: so Iccup.cheloman
[14:48] ψåšÏƒ: banned all my accounts
[14:48] ψåšÏƒ: frmo iccup
[14:48] ψåšÏƒ: and my cd key is locked so i cant get on east/west/any b.net server
[14:48] ψåšÏƒ: ....
[14:48] ψåšÏƒ: unless somehow
[14:48] ψåšÏƒ: i can get back on iccup
[14:48] ψåšÏƒ: i gotta call it off
[14:48] ψåšÏƒ: cuz i literally
[14:48] ψåšÏƒ: cannot play sc
[14:48] ψåšÏƒ: on anything
[14:48] ψåšÏƒ: atm
[14:48] ψåšÏƒ: besides vs comps...
[14:49] ψåšÏƒ: do uknow
[14:49] ψåšÏƒ: iccup.cheloman
[14:49] Blake: loooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooool
[14:49] Blake: get your shit sorted out


lol
MorningMusume11
Profile Blog Joined November 2007
United States3490 Posts
June 28 2009 00:45 GMT
#298
On June 27 2009 04:04 Hot_Bid wrote:
in the thread chill made, within 48 hours of agreeing to it

he said because iccup banned his accounts he can't play, despite that he can
a) register a new account
b) buy or receive a donated copy of the game ($10) and legit CD key
c) play on a alternate server like SC2GG or Hamachi

instead, its a dodge!


Cuz iCCup accts dont requite cd key right... hehe
meathook
Profile Joined December 2007
1289 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-06-28 21:53:11
June 28 2009 21:43 GMT
#299
Hahahaha..! Incredible.. or credible, considering who he is. Pathetic.
On June 28 2009 09:45 MorningMusume11 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 27 2009 04:04 Hot_Bid wrote:
in the thread chill made, within 48 hours of agreeing to it

he said because iccup banned his accounts he can't play, despite that he can
a) register a new account
b) buy or receive a donated copy of the game ($10) and legit CD key
c) play on a alternate server like SC2GG or Hamachi

instead, its a dodge!


Cuz iCCup accts dont requite cd key right... hehe

What?

Edit: ok, I found the thread of Chill.. seems they fixed everything and Combat is running out of dodge options:
On June 27 2009 05:00 Chill wrote:
Just to clarify we solved the issues and he can get on ICCup.

The match is going forward as planned.

An ugly planet. A bug planet.
Shauni
Profile Blog Joined July 2004
4077 Posts
June 28 2009 21:56 GMT
#300
On June 29 2009 06:43 meathook wrote:
Hahahaha..! Incredible.. or credible, considering who he is. Pathetic.
Show nested quote +
On June 28 2009 09:45 MorningMusume11 wrote:
On June 27 2009 04:04 Hot_Bid wrote:
in the thread chill made, within 48 hours of agreeing to it

he said because iccup banned his accounts he can't play, despite that he can
a) register a new account
b) buy or receive a donated copy of the game ($10) and legit CD key
c) play on a alternate server like SC2GG or Hamachi

instead, its a dodge!


Cuz iCCup accts dont requite cd key right... hehe

What?


He is saying you do not even need a valid CD Key to play on iccup, so you don't have to buy anything really.
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MoeMoeKyun
Profile Joined January 2009
United States215 Posts
June 29 2009 12:54 GMT
#301
Front page news I expect. We'll know ahead of time when games played and where right?
I lol in ur general direction
Hot_Bid
Profile Blog Joined October 2003
Braavos36374 Posts
June 29 2009 15:19 GMT
#302
On June 29 2009 06:56 Shauni wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 29 2009 06:43 meathook wrote:
Hahahaha..! Incredible.. or credible, considering who he is. Pathetic.
On June 28 2009 09:45 MorningMusume11 wrote:
On June 27 2009 04:04 Hot_Bid wrote:
in the thread chill made, within 48 hours of agreeing to it

he said because iccup banned his accounts he can't play, despite that he can
a) register a new account
b) buy or receive a donated copy of the game ($10) and legit CD key
c) play on a alternate server like SC2GG or Hamachi

instead, its a dodge!


Cuz iCCup accts dont requite cd key right... hehe

What?


He is saying you do not even need a valid CD Key to play on iccup, so you don't have to buy anything really.

right, but East / West etc do need a CD Key, which is why he'd need one if his ICCup account is banned

regardless, it seems like the showmatch is on, but i think its still 50-50 that it actually happens
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