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Chef
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AoN.DimSum
United States2983 Posts
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Yaqoob
Canada3314 Posts
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Sentenal
United States12398 Posts
On June 21 2009 05:05 acnexus wrote: Combat stop posting here. I have every reason to believe that most of the carebears here are not gonna stop bashing you. Let me list a few points that are so true. (1) Most of TL is jealous of you for your popularity. Despite you cheating and lying (fukin moron you, but hey you were bashed on more threads and comments than I can count for what you did and you apologized and they still are bashing you just the same, so I don't know if they'll ever forgive you). (2) They think way too high of themselves. "Oh Im better than him", bla bla bla. Well at least he is contributing to the noob community and to those stuck in between being a noob and a decent player. You on the other hand, set on your lazy asses and contribute ALOT more to bashing him than you contribute to the community...... (3) I believe a significant amount of hate at TL is due to your background and cultural beliefs. Believe me, no matter what people post below me to try to prove me wrong, your background has something to do with some of the hate. That being said, I don't think anything you do will make them neutral toward you. So don't waste your time and move on. (4) I registered to post this here after seeing your unnecessary apology video, and I would like TL to know that they certainly aren't that loved by the SC community (the official one). Go check starcraft forums, scwire, and all other fan sites. You people are not loved. <-----period. (5) I will be banned because of my opinions and you know what, I do not care, because you people don't respect anyone who disagrees with you. This is my first and last post here. acnexus signing out. lol Yeah, real SC community. And I'm extremely jealous of Combat, too. hahaha posts like that are classic. Combat, if you want people to consider you legitimately B-, ladder up to B-, post what account you were using to do so, and then the post a rep pack of the games you played to get there. Playing Chill would be nice, but you don't even have to do that. If you played legit to get there, the rep-pack would prove it, wouldn't it? | ||
zatic
Zurich15305 Posts
On June 21 2009 05:05 acnexus wrote: (5) I will be banned because of my opinions and you know what, I do not care, because you people don't respect anyone who disagrees with you. This is my first and last post here. Nobody here gets banned for disagreeing or stating their opinion. I hope you don't come back though anyway, we really can't stand martyrs. | ||
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Divinek
Canada4045 Posts
On June 21 2009 05:05 acnexus wrote: acnexus signing out. automatic douchebag tag for someone who is talking out of their ass and is probably combat on another account. Not likely actually, but I like to think all low post accounts in support are actually combat. But this guy uses full words so it's probably just a blind follower | ||
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7mk
Germany10156 Posts
On June 21 2009 05:48 Chef wrote: Do it. People will be bashing you for a long time now. Mostly small minded people. But if you play legit, you don't bash lower ranks. Your record looks clean, you upload all your replays, and you stop asking for donations and boasting about how good you are... Eventually, people will stop hating you. They might not respect you, but at least they won't despise you. In order to be respect here, you have to be really, really good/helpful/awesome/amiable etc. Shoot for 'not hated.' The problem with your apologies is that during them you're making tonnes of excuses. This isn't the spirit of an apology  IMO it's like you never gave one. But I don't care, as long as you shape up and play honest from now on.I really agree with pretty much everything Chef says. And I do agree with you,combat, that there's definitely nobody else with that high an output of videos unfortunately. I'd just suggest that you put quality over quantity though, do more thorough strategical analysis, maybe add the exact BO in the youtube description, talk about soft/ hard counters to the strat etc., add your reps to repdepot.net and add the link to the youtube description And maybe some day in the not so near future people are gonna post "look for combat-ex vid xx for reference" in the tl strategy forum ^^ Ok I mom Im watching your vod now... ok interesting analysis "were both gonna try to fuck each other over and who fucks the other guy over first is gonna win " lol :p oh wow, I'm sorry but the vid is very disappointing Again youre doing exactly what Chef mentioned: Your apology is kinda BS, saying "unfortunately TL still hasnt forgiven me... I guess I understand that...but... " That's not a real apology, you need to just say "I fucked up, I'm sorry, and I truely understand it's gonna take a while to forgive me, dont flame on TL because they are right" you should not say "well i kinda understand that.. but.." Also your fanbase's point wasnt really "TL are noobs" but "TL are arrogant" and the way you say it if I didnt know any better I would also start flaming TL cause it make it sound like we're just treating you badly undeservedly. Since your viewers are noobs they don't even realise just how bad it is to abuse. About the game itself, it's still very bad. I understand that you talked about TL in the beginning but still how can you not mention how unusual it is to go for a 2 hatch muta build in ZvP. Also you say "He's pretty good cause he got one cannon, though he didn't scout my base for the spire" ???!!! He did scout it, his probe went right to your main even though you had lings blocking the ramp because for some very odd reason you decided not to hold position but instead to click attack the probe, you made a huge micro mistake and let the probe see the spire. But you dont talk about that, you say "he's good for getting a cannon despite not scouting you", wow Also again, youre going 2 hatch mutas! That is so freaking unusual, how about mentioning it. Also fyi pro gamers usually dont unstack their mutas against archons when they are in the position you were in(when P pushed out with archon+zealot) , they try to use their range advantage and if possible try to attack from higher ground against archons, and micro it in a way that they don't even get hit by the archon (which you obviously cant do if you spread your mutas) Ok you actually try to do that a few moments later, but when you say "this is the only time you wanna stack your mutas against archons" you are wrong imho. somebody correct me if I'm wrong but I really don't think I am. also you do some really bad stuff like at the point where you talk about how you muta micro against the gas extractor, you say something like "yeah if youre D- you can do this and you definitely wont die" This is exactly what you do NOT want to tell someone who is D- because it is soo bad how you Muta micro for what seems like eternity without going back to your base ONCE to macro. And for what? To damage a fucking extractor? People are gonna copy these kind of moves instead of learning how to macro properly. Also you have like 1000overmins despite your economy being really bad since your 3rd base was up so very late. I mean just generally wth, youre playing someone who builds 3 nexuses in his main base?! Also you do stuff like lose a big ass army of mutas, more than two control groups to corsairs and you dont even mention it once. And just... your build... its insane, if you wanna help noobs, why show them a mass muta build ZvP?? wow I swear to god when I started this comment I did not play to bash on you like this but I guess it's been too long since I watched your vods (I used to watch them often actually when I didn't really visit TL yet) I thought people were exaggerating a bit when they talked about how bad your vods are. And I'm not some great pro saying this, my ZvP is barely D+, I'm sure if I played your main race you would pwn me badly, but honestly the games Ive played today were of much much higher quality than this vod. Oh wow and now there's a big chat where youre bashing your opponent about how hes such a stupid noob.... great way to start acting humble from now on... Wow you even go so far that you add him to your friends list so you can annoy him afterwards... This is getting worse and worse :S Ok now after seeing this my suggestion is this: Maybe you should either improve or just post vids playing Protoss from now on, cause honestly this was really really bad. And if you are still gonna do a ZvP vod, do a freaking 3 hatch spire into hydra or 3hatch spire into lurker or 3hatch spire muta -> 5 hatch hydra , and if you really wanna show your viewers an aggressive build show them a hydra cannon break build, but dont do this insane shit, people aren't gonna become good players like this. I mean come on, your point is you help noobs. They dont know how to play whatsoever, they checkout youtube, find your vods, and you give them some way of playing. Yes, no doubt they are gonna play better than when they had absolutely not even the slightest idea of how to play. But what youre doing there is still teaching the wrong things. Let me give you an analogy If I teach someone basketball, I can show him a completely wrong technique to shoot the ball, but since he practices this technique from now on, he IS gonna get better in the way that he will hit the basket more often -> He will think I taught him right and be happy, but if he keeps using that technique he's undoubtedly never gonna be a good player. Same thing with your fans, they get better through watching your vods and then playing themselves, they support you since they improved and learned from you but its still so very wrong. Honestly, even though quite a few people from TL might have a different view on this, I personally really really dont want you to stop posting vods. I swear its the last thing I want, if something gets more people into starcraft, I always see it as a good thing. I also didnt really ever believe all the talking about how you just want to become e-famous blablabla I always thought that was bullshit. But please for the love of god, post better vods, use some standard good strategies, talk about why they are good, talk about what they are good against and what theyre not so good against. Talk about the overall picture of the metagame, not just about "yeah so here im muta microing to kill a lot of probes"... If the quality of games stays like your game 147 I swear TL's never gonna respect you. So please, you dont even need to do this for TL, do it for your fans, the better your vods are, the more they are gonna learn, pretty obvious. And yea stop acting like we are all dicks for not accepting your apology yet. Fuck,I need to go to bed and calm myself down ^^ Oh and one last thing: Of course the guy called "Combat_Ex" begging for wins wasn't you, anyone with an IQ higher than 10 can see that but dont pretend like there's a massive amount of copycats and every screenshot is fake. You abused, you fucked up, period. If you add excuses to your apology it makes the apology worthless. | ||
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29 fps
United States5718 Posts
oh, and i highly doubt he can gain TLs respect. it's almost a lost cause. not impossible, but it will take a LOT of effort | ||
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alexpnd
Canada1857 Posts
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MoeMoeKyun
United States215 Posts
On June 21 2009 17:41 Divinek wrote: automatic douchebag tag for someone who is talking out of their ass and is probably combat on another account. Not likely actually, but I like to think all low post accounts in support are actually combat. But this guy uses full words so it's probably just a blind follower Lmfao xD | ||
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Piretes
Netherlands218 Posts
This man needs to read strategy guides. He needs to rethink how he makes his videos. I'm quite sure that if I tried to learn starcraft with his videos I would not come far. EDIT: totally agree with 7mk | ||
Chill
Calgary25951 Posts
On June 20 2009 15:00 Combat-EX wrote: so.. just to prove it, i am willing to game anyone on TL that has maxed at B- rank in a bo5/7/9 im not saying im going to win, but i can garuntee i'll put up a good fight. the reason i am so confident in this is...because i have gotten B- without abuse on several smurf accounts. I said I would play you several times. We will stream a bo5 starting on Destination/Medusa (your choice) with the loser of each game picking the next map from the "standard" ICCup map pool. For reference, here is my account last season: http://www.iccup.com/gamingprofile/proofimbad.html I finished around 50 points from B, and although I hit B a few times throughout the season, I never held it for any significant time. Every game I played on ICCup was streamed, so you can ask the viewers about it. You are not B-. Edit: To clarify, you cherry-pick your oppoents, abuse, and play people below your rank. You are not B-. Edit 2: I don't even care what your skill level is. It's just ridiculous that you assert that you are at a level you are not when you have never proven that. Just stream a season of ICCup to prove it. Edit 3: Don't feel like this is an aggressive trap to make you play. If you want to show your true skill, you can play me. If you don't, don't. I'm sure if you beat me you will get a lot of respect from TL. | ||
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Holgerius
Sweden16951 Posts
Don't chicken out from this, Combat. This is your big chance of getting respect from a great portion of TL. | ||
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meathook
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On June 20 2009 15:00 Combat-EX wrote: and finally....as hard as this is to say...after reading all these pages of bashing. i am still gonna try to earn TL's respect.... i know this is gonna take a hell of a long time, but i understand that what i did was a huge crime in this community i have changed my ways now....you guys won't believe this as of now,but i hope as time goes by and my videos/iccup become more helpful/legit , you guys will see that i have changed. This will be believable when you delete your youtube account and do not post future vods. Also, seconding the streamed boX of Chill vs Cowmbat. Musings: This drama is pretty funny. | ||
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Frits
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7mk
Germany10156 Posts
On June 24 2009 02:49 meathook wrote: This will be believable when you delete your youtube account and do not post future vods. Also, seconding the streamed boX of Chill vs Cowmbat. Musings: This drama is pretty funny. combat was obviously preferring to his abusing there, so why would he delete his youtube account/ not post any more vods, since those two can't be considered "crime" but yeah I'm certainly crossing my fingers for this BO5 to actually happen man, I love TL :p | ||
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floor exercise
Canada5847 Posts
Not only that but it would make a big event that will get his name out there even more, I don't think anyone in the community would want to miss it | ||
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VIB
Brazil3567 Posts
I didn't read any of what combat said and I don't think someone like him could ever be respected as an honest person again. But a streamed match vs Chill just can't go wrong. If Chill wins it's gonna be hilarious because we're gonna make so much fun of Combat. And if Combat wins... wow... Chill is gonna be mocked of for the rest of his career, I cannot miss that | ||
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