Does anyone know if racepicking or playing random is legal in Korean leagues? Players never do it, of course, but I wonder if it's a KeSPA rule that players have to pick a race and register with it, or what exactly the rule is.





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Canada2653 Posts
Does anyone know if racepicking or playing random is legal in Korean leagues? Players never do it, of course, but I wonder if it's a KeSPA rule that players have to pick a race and register with it, or what exactly the rule is. ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() | ||
blabber
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Caller
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Plexa
Aotearoa39261 Posts
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Dgtl
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pachi
Melbourne5338 Posts
On June 09 2009 10:53 Dgtl wrote: A player can pick any race for a tourny, but it has to be before the tournament started and they can't play that race in any other leagues if they were already playing their main race in them. In the tournament that Plexa linked, Savior told kespa beforehand that only in the case if he was to play versus GoRush in their group (Jangbi v Savior, Shine v Gorush) he would be playing Terran. He played all other games as Zerg. | ||
fusionsdf
Canada15390 Posts
On June 09 2009 10:53 Dgtl wrote: A player can pick any race for a tourny, but it has to be before the tournament started and they can't play that race in any other leagues if they were already playing their main race in them. I've seen the first part before (i.e you can pick Zerg, Terran, Protoss or Random for a specific match, as long as you give one week's notice), but I've never see the second part you posted. Do you have a source for it? | ||
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Plexa
Aotearoa39261 Posts
On June 09 2009 10:53 Dgtl wrote: A player can pick any race for a tourny, but it has to be before the tournament started and they can't play that race in any other leagues if they were already playing their main race in them. No this is incorrect. The only criterion for changing race is they have to alert KeSPA one week prior to the match - in Proleague, MSL or OSL. This is so the other players have enough time to practice for this change. | ||
tyr
France1686 Posts
On June 09 2009 11:14 fusionsdf wrote: (i.e you can pick Zerg, Terran, Protoss or Random for a specific match, Are you sure he can say he picks random and then uses random ? Don't they have to pick one of the 3 races ? | ||
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IntoTheWow
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Grobyc
Canada18410 Posts
On June 09 2009 11:53 IntoTheWow wrote: No, they can pick random. Happened a lot in 2v2's (to get ZZ vs XX) Mhmm. They only allow 1 Zerg per team in 2v2's. Therefore people just go ZRvsXX, with a 1/3 chance to get 2 Z's ![]() | ||
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IntoTheWow
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fusionsdf
Canada15390 Posts
On June 09 2009 12:14 Grobyc wrote: Show nested quote + On June 09 2009 11:53 IntoTheWow wrote: No, they can pick random. Happened a lot in 2v2's (to get ZZ vs XX) Mhmm. They only allow 1 Zerg per team in 2v2's. Therefore people just go ZRvsXX, with a 1/3 chance to get 2 Z's ![]() although interestingly, its not a 1/3rd chance (I think it ended up being 1/6? I havent seen that topic in a while) | ||
Grobyc
Canada18410 Posts
![]() First time I've seen ensnare used in ZvT and one of the few times I've seen ensnare used effectively too lol | ||
Rotodyne
United States2263 Posts
On June 09 2009 13:06 fusionsdf wrote: Show nested quote + On June 09 2009 12:14 Grobyc wrote: On June 09 2009 11:53 IntoTheWow wrote: No, they can pick random. Happened a lot in 2v2's (to get ZZ vs XX) Mhmm. They only allow 1 Zerg per team in 2v2's. Therefore people just go ZRvsXX, with a 1/3 chance to get 2 Z's ![]() although interestingly, its not a 1/3rd chance (I think it ended up being 1/6? I havent seen that topic in a while) I thought that was just if both people went Random, 1/27 chance of getting ZZ | ||
Exteray
United States1094 Posts
On June 09 2009 13:23 Rotodyne wrote: Show nested quote + On June 09 2009 13:06 fusionsdf wrote: On June 09 2009 12:14 Grobyc wrote: On June 09 2009 11:53 IntoTheWow wrote: No, they can pick random. Happened a lot in 2v2's (to get ZZ vs XX) Mhmm. They only allow 1 Zerg per team in 2v2's. Therefore people just go ZRvsXX, with a 1/3 chance to get 2 Z's ![]() although interestingly, its not a 1/3rd chance (I think it ended up being 1/6? I havent seen that topic in a while) I thought that was just if both people went Random, 1/27 chance of getting ZZ If both people go random, there is 1/9 chance of getting ZZ. ;-) | ||
Fen
Australia1848 Posts
There was a thread a while ago about this. | ||
LuckyFool
United States9015 Posts
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ForTheSwarm
United States556 Posts
On June 09 2009 13:06 fusionsdf wrote: Show nested quote + On June 09 2009 12:14 Grobyc wrote: On June 09 2009 11:53 IntoTheWow wrote: No, they can pick random. Happened a lot in 2v2's (to get ZZ vs XX) Mhmm. They only allow 1 Zerg per team in 2v2's. Therefore people just go ZRvsXX, with a 1/3 chance to get 2 Z's ![]() although interestingly, its not a 1/3rd chance (I think it ended up being 1/6? I havent seen that topic in a while) It would be a 1/6th probability to get ZZ if BOTH players went random. However, with one going Z and the other random the probability reduces to 1/3. Possibilities for RR vs XXX: ZZ vs XX TT vs XX ZT vs XX TP vs XX ZP vs XX PP vs XX Only 3 possibilities for ZR vs XX: ZZ vs XX ZT vs XX ZP vs XX | ||
Mindcrime
United States6899 Posts
On June 09 2009 13:45 For_The_Swarm wrote: Show nested quote + On June 09 2009 13:06 fusionsdf wrote: On June 09 2009 12:14 Grobyc wrote: On June 09 2009 11:53 IntoTheWow wrote: No, they can pick random. Happened a lot in 2v2's (to get ZZ vs XX) Mhmm. They only allow 1 Zerg per team in 2v2's. Therefore people just go ZRvsXX, with a 1/3 chance to get 2 Z's ![]() although interestingly, its not a 1/3rd chance (I think it ended up being 1/6? I havent seen that topic in a while) It would be a 1/6th probability to get ZZ if BOTH players went random. However, with one going Z and the other random the probability reduces to 1/3. Possibilities for RR vs XXX: ZZ vs XX TT vs XX ZT vs XX TP vs XX ZP vs XX PP vs XX + TZ vs XX PZ vs XX PT vs XX 1/9 | ||
R3condite
Korea (South)1541 Posts
On June 09 2009 13:45 For_The_Swarm wrote: Show nested quote + On June 09 2009 13:06 fusionsdf wrote: On June 09 2009 12:14 Grobyc wrote: On June 09 2009 11:53 IntoTheWow wrote: No, they can pick random. Happened a lot in 2v2's (to get ZZ vs XX) Mhmm. They only allow 1 Zerg per team in 2v2's. Therefore people just go ZRvsXX, with a 1/3 chance to get 2 Z's ![]() although interestingly, its not a 1/3rd chance (I think it ended up being 1/6? I havent seen that topic in a while) It would be a 1/6th probability to get ZZ if BOTH players went random. However, with one going Z and the other random the probability reduces to 1/3. Possibilities for RR vs XXX: ZZ vs XX TT vs XX ZT vs XX TP vs XX ZP vs XX PP vs XX Only 3 possibilities for ZR vs XX: ZZ vs XX ZT vs XX ZP vs XX even if the random generator was completely random do u noe how probability works? u would get 1/3 for one Z and 1/3 for another which makes it 1/9 (= 1/3 * 1/3) | ||
thunk
United States6233 Posts
Fusion's probably right. | ||
ero
United States66 Posts
On June 09 2009 13:45 For_The_Swarm wrote:It would be a 1/6th probability to get ZZ if BOTH players went random. However, with one going Z and the other random the probability reduces to 1/3. Possibilities for RR vs XXX: ZZ vs XX TT vs XX ZT vs XX TP vs XX ZP vs XX PP vs XX Only 3 possibilities for ZR vs XX: ZZ vs XX ZT vs XX ZP vs XX fail lol | ||
CharlieMurphy
United States22895 Posts
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PH
United States6173 Posts
This is interesting, though. I didn't think the players had any obligation to stick to a particular race; I thought they could pick whatever they wanted on the spot...lol. I imagined the only thing barring them was the competitive climate which begged for them to play with their best at their best for every game. | ||
blabber
United States4448 Posts
On June 09 2009 16:57 PH wrote: That was July that picked T against a Z...I don't remember who the Zerg was, but I do believe the map was Araknoid or Neo Araknoid. This is interesting, though. I didn't think the players had any obligation to stick to a particular race; I thought they could pick whatever they wanted on the spot...lol. I imagined the only thing barring them was the competitive climate which begged for them to play with their best at their best for every game. July vs Chojja on Neo Guillotine http://www.teamliquid.net/tlpd/games/1128_ChoJJa_vs_July there actually is a vod out there somewhere, it's just not in tlpd yet I remember someone said that there used to be an old rule about races (like you couldn't use the same race twice in a row or something?) | ||
PH
United States6173 Posts
That was a sick move that July did...oh man. | ||
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