So yeah..failed to get out of probation, and I'm dismissed from Engineering. I didn't want to do it anyways, so I'm going to attend community college for the upcoming fall (I'm already attending summer because I was going to transfer credits, anyways).

I thought about my major and definitely want to do business or math. I really like math, but Engineering kind of stuff just didn't work out for me. So I'm pretty much fucked when my parents find out...they wouldn't want me going to CC T_T

I'll probably be working during the summer/fall too...since I only need 12 credits to re-apply. I'm taking 6 credits right now and probably 6-9 during the fall.

brian

United States9618 Posts

May 31 2009 20:22 GMT

if you like math dude, DO IT :D

business is more of a joke imo.

Nytefish

United Kingdom4282 Posts

May 31 2009 20:25 GMT

Just make sure the only reason you like maths isn't because it's easy

I know a few people who made that mistake since it was so easy before uni.

Klockan3

Sweden2866 Posts

May 31 2009 20:27 GMT

Well, you are one of roughly 50% of the engineering students aren't you? As my old physics teacher used to tell the freshman classes in college: "Half of you will be the worst 50%, get used to it".

Anyway, when you try again go for business first since it is an easier major than maths, if you fail again it would be really bad to get back I think.

zulu_nation8

China26351 Posts

May 31 2009 20:27 GMT

what kind of engineering were you studying?

T.O.P.

Hong Kong4685 Posts

May 31 2009 20:28 GMT

I agree, don't make the mistake thinking math is easy. University math is on a totally different level compared to high school math.

Luddite

United States2315 Posts

May 31 2009 20:32 GMT

On June 01 2009 05:28 T.O.P. wrote:
I agree, don't make the mistake thinking math is easy. University math is on a totally different level compared to high school math.

I wouldn't say it's actually harder, though. It's more advanced, but the rate of learning is about the same (well, you go faster, but that's because you can focus on it more). Mainly it's just more abstract.

Frits

11782 Posts

May 31 2009 20:40 GMT

You need 12 credits? Are those comparable with ECTS credits? Because I take 30 per semester and still have plenty of time left each time. We have to get 60 credits per year, if you get below 40 you get kicked out and can't do the subject again for about 5 years or something. Maybe you should consider re-applying if you can find the proper motivation.

Also I've checked out some of the math stuff at my university looking for fun courses I have to choose next year, it's pretty damn hard. I also have a friend who chose math as his major, which he's pretty good at and he's smart as hell, but he still completely failed due to lack of motivation.

B1nary

Canada1267 Posts

May 31 2009 20:41 GMT

As others have pointed out, math is an extremely difficult major. Upperclassmen level math classes are far different from high school or even introductory college level math. If you're not comfortable with rigorous proofs and abstract thinking, math probably isn't for you. And I don't mean to be too harsh here, but if you're not doing so great in engineering, statistically speaking, you won't fare much better in math. Nonetheless, if you're really certain you like math, by all means go for it! =D

As for business, well... I sort of see it as a major for people who aren't really interested in anything but want to get rich (sorry business majors). The classes are reputed to be really easy but you need appropriate personality traits to get anywhere.

Klockan3

Sweden2866 Posts

May 31 2009 20:47 GMT

#10

On June 01 2009 05:32 Luddite wrote:

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While the calculus courses are really intuitive things like Lie algebras are not. More abstract is the same thing as harder unless you just muscled through your earlier courses without visualizing anything at all, I wouldn't really recommend doing that though...

Also the average maths student do not get 100% of every course, and if you missed a bit of the last course you will miss even more the next making the amount you understand of the latest course exponentially decreasing with every new course you take.

Like, a good student understands 90% of the course, while a bad one 50%. Then a few courses later the good one have maybe 50% left while the bad one is down to 3% and flunking everything.

This is probably the biggest problem with people, they do not realize that they really need an A in every course if they want to study maths/physics since otherwise stuff you don't understand starts piling up and it will hit you really hard later, getting A in every early class is like mandatory if you want to get anywhere.

BuGzlToOnl

United States5918 Posts

May 31 2009 20:49 GMT

#11

Take community college seriously and you'll do fine don't be "ashamed" of it. Many people go there for many reasons.

Deleted User 3420

24492 Posts

May 31 2009 20:54 GMT

#12

You sound like you aren't too concerned about it.

ghermination

United States2851 Posts

May 31 2009 20:56 GMT

#13

A BA is a joke, go for something in math.

Luddite

United States2315 Posts

May 31 2009 21:02 GMT

#14

On June 01 2009 05:47 Klockan3 wrote:

This is probably the biggest problem with people, they do not realize that they really need an A in every course if they want to study maths/physics since otherwise stuff you don't understand starts piling up and it will hit you really hard later, getting A in every early class is like mandatory if you want to get anywhere.

Yeah I'd agree with that. If you do a good job with everything and never get behind then it's not too hard, but if you do start to get behind, it's really hard to catch up since everything is related.

Macavenger

United States1132 Posts

May 31 2009 21:37 GMT

#15

Yeah, the difference between college and high school math is pretty astonishing. So much more crazy theoretical and abstract. In high school I did totally awesome in math (including winning some relatively major awards for it), loved it, etc. College it was so weird and different, I ended up hating it and not doing well (except combinatorics).

clazziquai

6685 Posts

May 31 2009 21:41 GMT

#16

@zulu: I was going to be BME

@travis: yeah, I am really worried. I knew this would happen anyways, so it's sorta gotten over me now. When the letter comes, it's my parents that I have to take care of =/ i don't know how to explain it to them.....

@everyone else: Math is REALLY hard. I know that because I have a friend from another university that dropped out of Math because it was really hard for him...and he was really good at math. I'm most likely going for business.

zulu_nation8

China26351 Posts

May 31 2009 21:51 GMT

#17

fuck me I plan to major in BME, why don't you like it?

DeathSpank

United States1029 Posts

May 31 2009 21:55 GMT

#18

yay at least I won't expect anything I'm not used to!...Being a comp sci major and hating math(well not really more the way its taught and the textbooks) is sorta challenging.

Falcynn

United States3597 Posts

May 31 2009 21:56 GMT

#19

On June 01 2009 05:40 Frits wrote:
You need 12 credits? Are those comparable with ECTS credits? Because I take 30 per semester and still have plenty of time left each time. We have to get 60 credits per year, if you get below 40 you get kicked out and can't do the subject again for about 5 years or something.

I'm assuming credits work differently here in the US because 30 credits per semester seems pretty crazy. Generally the minimum to be a full time student is 12 credits per semester (which roughly equals 12 hours of class per week + however much homework is given) and I rarely meet anyone who goes for 21+ credits.

rgfdxm

United States239 Posts

May 31 2009 22:25 GMT

#20

Clazz was this Cornell Engineering by any chance? If so then I'm in pretty much the same boat.

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