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okay so i was playing a protoss on iccup and i scouted his main seeing no gateways checked for fast nexus nothing so then i knew proxy was on the way a 2 gate proxy i thought to myself " crap how am i gonna do this no rines yet and theirs probably zealots on the way ".
so then they come in and hes calling me noob cuz im from usa wich annoyed me a little allready so then when he does his rush after calling me a noob i say " f***ing noob* then he has his zealots in raping my main i lift my cc and barracks planning to relocate
now i remember bm stuff like that is alot of subtracted points on iccup i had no intention on being bm it was an attempt to relocate somewhere safer he then says " waste of my time" and leaves now im worried hes going to report it as bm and im going to lose points :/
im not sure but can someone answer if this is bm ?
thanks all will provide replay if you need
  
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lifting buildings and hiding is something you cant get reported for
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Cases we won't be investigating:
- Not reported games due dischack or disc
- Opponent floating buildings
- Opponent not wanting to leave the game
- Opponent using manner pylon
- Game leaver before 2 mins
- Changing race right before game started
- Any bugs used during game
- All related ladder complaint issue
Source: Link
Safe imo
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okay  thanks everyone was really worried here ^_^
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lol looks like you just won a free game.
IMO it's still BM though.
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lol thats what i was thinking but like i wasnt trying to " waste his time " or like make it take him longer to win i was moving my barracks and cc to a spot where theirs the neutral temple in the way ( i think) on heartbreak ridge ( idk if im right or not only played it once or twice) i wasnt like moving them to corners to make him search or something
but what could i have done to prevent this 2 gate proxy rush ? a bunker is my guess
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On May 27 2009 12:18 Shattered wrote:
he then says " waste of my time" and leaves
Shit that's points in the bank, son.
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May not be "bm" according to iccup rules, but it IS dumb... I think it's cool if you want to do that to a proxy gater; they are gay so doing something gay back should be fine. But, if you are serious about "I was planning on relocating and etc," that's obviously just dumb.
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If I were the toss I would have just gone and knocked down the temple before you got your econ going, 'cause the base float really is kind of lame... would only take another 5 min max to finish the game.
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It is BM, but you won't lose points for it. And you there's no maps anymore where there is an island/pseudo island that's still being played so you would've just killed you wherever you landed.
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Free points!
It was stupid though, because all you're doing delaying the inevitable.
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On May 27 2009 13:01 Musoeun wrote:
If I were the toss I would have just gone and knocked down the temple before you got your econ going, 'cause the base float really is kind of lame... would only take another 5 min max to finish the game.
yes but this toss was extremely arrogant  saying how we was better then me because he was asian and im from usa ( his words not mine ) so he decided it wasnt worth his time ^_^ free points for me :o but anyway now that im terran i see the error of my ways when i played toss
makes me want to go back and apologize to everyone iv proxy gated
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just goes to show that your opponent doesnt care about winning but rather playing.
if you get proxy gated and you have no marines to deal with it.. you lose. he just wanted to play. his strat beat yours and so he quit to do it again. the 50 points he lost means nothing to him since he prolly played 12 games after you lifted your CC... btw, where were you gonna relocate to? just GG and try again man
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United States3824 Posts
If you have to ask you aren't being nice enough
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why won't they investigate leaving before 2 minutes?
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On May 27 2009 13:15 Shattered wrote:Show nested quote +On May 27 2009 13:01 Musoeun wrote:
If I were the toss I would have just gone and knocked down the temple before you got your econ going, 'cause the base float really is kind of lame... would only take another 5 min max to finish the game. yes but this toss was extremely arrogant saying how we was better then me because he was asian and im from usa ( his words not mine ) so he decided it wasnt worth his time ^_^ free points for me :o but anyway now that im terran i see the error of my ways when i played toss makes me want to go back and apologize to everyone iv proxy gated
Replay plz
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On May 27 2009 14:28 Patriot.dlk wrote:
why won't they investigate leaving before 2 minutes?
i like the 2 minute rule. it gives you enough time to determine if the game will be laggy so you can leave. Losing points for that would suck.
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On May 27 2009 14:45 Mastermind wrote:Show nested quote +On May 27 2009 14:28 Patriot.dlk wrote:
why won't they investigate leaving before 2 minutes? i like the 2 minute rule. it gives you enough time to determine if the game will be laggy so you can leave. Losing points for that would suck.
but if you scout their proxy or 4 pool/all in build within 2 minutes they can leave 
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On May 27 2009 14:54 coolcrimefighter wrote:Show nested quote +On May 27 2009 14:45 Mastermind wrote:On May 27 2009 14:28 Patriot.dlk wrote:
why won't they investigate leaving before 2 minutes? i like the 2 minute rule. it gives you enough time to determine if the game will be laggy so you can leave. Losing points for that would suck. but if you scout their proxy or 4 pool/all in build within 2 minutes they can leave
So can you if you fail to fend it off
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On May 27 2009 14:54 coolcrimefighter wrote:Show nested quote +On May 27 2009 14:45 Mastermind wrote:On May 27 2009 14:28 Patriot.dlk wrote:
why won't they investigate leaving before 2 minutes? i like the 2 minute rule. it gives you enough time to determine if the game will be laggy so you can leave. Losing points for that would suck. but if you scout their proxy or 4 pool/all in build within 2 minutes they can leave
hmm... i know they use to take points away in those situations. They sue ot do it for gas stealing as well.
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On May 27 2009 12:27 gettodaroflchoppa wrote:Cases we won't be investigating:- Not reported games due dischack or disc- Opponent floating buildings - Opponent not wanting to leave the game - Opponent using manner pylon - Game leaver before 2 mins - Changing race right before game started - Any bugs used during game - All related ladder complaint issue Source: LinkSafe imo
wait what?! so you can just disconnect then? o.O\
and LOL at manner pylon xD bet you a lot of ppl were complaining about those xD
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I think it's BM. You can't get reported for it, but still...bm.
BTW...can you please try to use punctuations? It hurt my head trying to make sense of your post.
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If the guy was bad mouthing you for no reason during the game, lift off, float somewhere safe, and alt+tab for 5 minutes while he has to tech to scouts to kill you. It's justified bm.
On May 27 2009 13:42 omninmo wrote:
just goes to show that your opponent doesnt care about winning but rather playing.
Sounds more like the guy just cared about cheesing and winning 4 minute games.
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On May 27 2009 14:58 writer22816 wrote:Show nested quote +On May 27 2009 14:54 coolcrimefighter wrote:On May 27 2009 14:45 Mastermind wrote:On May 27 2009 14:28 Patriot.dlk wrote:
why won't they investigate leaving before 2 minutes? i like the 2 minute rule. it gives you enough time to determine if the game will be laggy so you can leave. Losing points for that would suck. but if you scout their proxy or 4 pool/all in build within 2 minutes they can leave So can you if you fail to fend it off
No you can't... By the time a 4 pool or any rush arrives at your base, it will be past 2 minutes.
I think iCCup does give wins if your opponent leaves under 2 mins and he was at a disadvantage, just not extra points for BM.
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On May 27 2009 16:01 LxRogue wrote:Show nested quote +On May 27 2009 14:58 writer22816 wrote:On May 27 2009 14:54 coolcrimefighter wrote:On May 27 2009 14:45 Mastermind wrote:On May 27 2009 14:28 Patriot.dlk wrote:
why won't they investigate leaving before 2 minutes? i like the 2 minute rule. it gives you enough time to determine if the game will be laggy so you can leave. Losing points for that would suck. but if you scout their proxy or 4 pool/all in build within 2 minutes they can leave So can you if you fail to fend it off No you can't... By the time a 4 pool or any rush arrives at your base, it will be past 2 minutes. I think iCCup does give wins if your opponent leaves under 2 mins and he was at a disadvantage, just not extra points for BM.
Wasnt there a famous strat on RH3 where you would proxy rax at one of the other mains then scout and if he wasnt in it you leave before 2 mins?
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If they initiate the BM then you're free to do as you like.
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On May 27 2009 17:02 jello_biafra wrote:
If they initiate the BM then you're free to do as you like.
Since when did two wrongs make one right?
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On May 27 2009 17:35 ishob wrote:Show nested quote +On May 27 2009 17:02 jello_biafra wrote:
If they initiate the BM then you're free to do as you like. Since when did two wrongs make one right?
So if you were to walk up to me and punch me in the face, I couldn't hit you back because "two wrongs don't make a right"? BS
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It's not about right or wrong it's about growing up and ignoring whatever bullshit some little nerd is flinging at you online.
Cases we won't be investigating:
- Not reported games due dischack or disc
- Opponent floating buildings
- Opponent not wanting to leave the game
- Opponent using manner pylon
- Game leaver before 2 mins
- Changing race right before game started
- Any bugs used during game
- All related ladder complaint issue
This is just one particular sub-forum, it doesn't mean icc ignores disc etc.
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On May 27 2009 14:31 PanN wrote:Show nested quote +On May 27 2009 13:15 Shattered wrote:On May 27 2009 13:01 Musoeun wrote:
If I were the toss I would have just gone and knocked down the temple before you got your econ going, 'cause the base float really is kind of lame... would only take another 5 min max to finish the game. yes but this toss was extremely arrogant saying how we was better then me because he was asian and im from usa ( his words not mine ) so he decided it wasnt worth his time ^_^ free points for me :o but anyway now that im terran i see the error of my ways when i played toss makes me want to go back and apologize to everyone iv proxy gated Replay plz
damn for some reason my auto replay isnt working :/ so i dont have the replay
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On May 27 2009 17:35 ishob wrote:Show nested quote +On May 27 2009 17:02 jello_biafra wrote:
If they initiate the BM then you're free to do as you like. Since when did two wrongs make one right?
it doesnt make it right. but it makes it even
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konadora
Singapore66355 Posts
On May 27 2009 15:41 PH wrote:
I think it's BM. You can't get reported for it, but still...bm.
Word.
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Being bm in response to bm is still bm but also hilarious because the person who initiates bm is usually a total idiot. Like this person kept talking shit the whole game for some reason which I just ignored, so I decide to randomly announce "gg" in the middle of the game, he goes GG. I just keep playing.
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"what the fuck"
"leave"
"leave"
"leave"
And goes on crying for like 10 minutes at which I just /ignore him, hilarious.
I still gg'ed at the end and left when it was over despite of the shittalk, I don't care, I also don't call people noobs or idiots or whatever, that is what children do, behave yourself. I act in game like I would in real life.
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On May 27 2009 18:13 jello_biafra wrote:Show nested quote +On May 27 2009 17:35 ishob wrote:On May 27 2009 17:02 jello_biafra wrote:
If they initiate the BM then you're free to do as you like. Since when did two wrongs make one right? So if you were to walk up to me and punch me in the face, I couldn't hit you back because "two wrongs don't make a right"? BS
I guess you've never heard of being the bigger man.
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On May 27 2009 18:13 jello_biafra wrote:Show nested quote +On May 27 2009 17:35 ishob wrote:On May 27 2009 17:02 jello_biafra wrote:
If they initiate the BM then you're free to do as you like. Since when did two wrongs make one right? So if you were to walk up to me and punch me in the face, I couldn't hit you back because "two wrongs don't make a right"? BS
I love it when people use strawmen like these, because people walk up to eachother and punch eachother in the face for no reason on a daily basis, great example, not to mention that would be called self defense. Hitting him out of revenge after the incident would definately be wrong.
Maybe you should adopt a less egotistical philosophy instead simply of obeying your primal urges as if they constitute morality.
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On May 27 2009 12:37 Grobyc wrote:
lol looks like you just won a free game.
IMO it's still BM though.
i don't think so... because there r lot of maps w/ island expo where the terran would be able to survive and if the toss doesn't play smart, would lose
On May 27 2009 18:13 jello_biafra wrote:Show nested quote +On May 27 2009 17:35 ishob wrote:On May 27 2009 17:02 jello_biafra wrote:
If they initiate the BM then you're free to do as you like. Since when did two wrongs make one right? So if you were to walk up to me and punch me in the face, I couldn't hit you back because "two wrongs don't make a right"? BS
no... it's cus u'll be charged w/ battery and sent to jail =P
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On May 27 2009 22:55 ishob wrote:Show nested quote +On May 27 2009 18:13 jello_biafra wrote:On May 27 2009 17:35 ishob wrote:On May 27 2009 17:02 jello_biafra wrote:
If they initiate the BM then you're free to do as you like. Since when did two wrongs make one right? So if you were to walk up to me and punch me in the face, I couldn't hit you back because "two wrongs don't make a right"? BS I guess you've never heard of being the bigger man.
Of course I have, that doesn't mean I'd just walk away if attacked by some guy, that would be called being the pussy.
On May 27 2009 23:09 Frits wrote:Show nested quote +On May 27 2009 18:13 jello_biafra wrote:On May 27 2009 17:35 ishob wrote:On May 27 2009 17:02 jello_biafra wrote:
If they initiate the BM then you're free to do as you like. Since when did two wrongs make one right? So if you were to walk up to me and punch me in the face, I couldn't hit you back because "two wrongs don't make a right"? BS I love it when people use strawmen like these, because people walk up to eachother and punch eachother in the face for no reason on a daily basis, great example, not to mention that would be called self defense. Hitting him out of revenge after the incident would definately be wrong. Maybe you should adopt a less egotistical philosophy instead simply of obeying your primal urges as if they constitute morality.
Actually I was very recently punched in the face by some guy for no reason whatsoever, that's why I used it as an example, my point was that his gay little idiom thing, while technically true, will deliver injustice in many instances.
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getting even is not justice
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Well it's my brand of justice.
And the legitimate penalties for crimes could be perceived as "wrongs", so I still don't see where he's coming from with that, all I did was state a simple fact, I didn't actually suggest anything.
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His fault for leaving but it's rather impolite to drag on the game like that. It really is an unnecessary waste of time.
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Wow, you're a tool. Take your loss like a man
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lifting buildings in perfectly legit strategy, there's always the chance his internet could go out or he breaks his computer in anger... I'm pretty surprised he just left in a ladder game though, that's pretty unusual.
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On May 28 2009 02:14 Jonoman92 wrote:
lifting buildings in perfectly legit strategy, there's always the chance his internet could go out or he breaks his computer in anger... I'm pretty surprised he just left in a ladder game though, that's pretty unusual.
I've also started doing it lately. If someone starts being lame as lifting buildings, lagging uncontrollably past 2 minutes or pausing for long, I usually just leave. I think most foreigners are taking iccup ladder way too seriously, it's just a tool for practise.
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He couldn't have just made a scout or corsair to snipe your buildings? Fight to the end man!
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i float my buildings alot when they cheese or gg for me.
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On May 28 2009 04:40 arb wrote:
i float my buildings alot when they cheese or gg for me.
It's funny when people who can't defend cheese get all pissy about it, as if it is unfair in any way.
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On May 27 2009 13:42 omninmo wrote:
just goes to show that your opponent doesnt care about winning but rather playing.
if you get proxy gated and you have no marines to deal with it.. you lose. he just wanted to play. his strat beat yours and so he quit to do it again. the 50 points he lost means nothing to him since he prolly played 12 games after you lifted your CC... btw, where were you gonna relocate to? just GG and try again man
that argument is fine except the opposing player is being a douche, i would have done the same thing in his position and just alt-tabbed, talking after the game is w/e, talking during the game is just pointless douchebaggery.
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Valhalla18444 Posts
i dont know what a strawman argument is, to me its basically just a term people use during arguments so they dont have to explain themselves
lol nice strawman argument man
anyway, heres six paragraphs about my point again
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On May 27 2009 12:28 Shattered wrote:okay thanks everyone was really worried here ^_^
you won't get reported, but still you should be worried because of ur manners.
Because it WAS indeed very BM. I don't even understand how people can do such shit.
And even if he was BM before, what is this attitude to BM back?
How old are you guys?
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On May 28 2009 20:24 FakeSteve[TPR] wrote:
i dont know what a strawman argument is, to me its basically just a term people use during arguments so they dont have to explain themselves
lol nice strawman argument man
anyway, heres six paragraphs about my point again
A strawman is the second most used fallacy by people and it's best defined as the following: "Disputing a position by exaggerating it, or otherwise distorting it. Pulling negative spin on an opponent's ideas."
Like comparing the saying 'two wrongs don't make a right' with someone randomly smashing you in the face and not being allowed to do anything back. I did actually point out why it was a strawman, I only accompanied it with the word strawman to make it easier for the other side to realize the weakness of the argument so the other person doesn't endlessly repeat the argument anyway.
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i once met an especially big asshole, i built an extarctor on every geyser i could and let him waste his time, and i gone to have lunch... some guys deserve it, not for ordinary cheese though...
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On May 27 2009 19:07 Nytefish wrote:It's not about right or wrong it's about growing up and ignoring whatever bullshit some little nerd is flinging at you online. Show nested quote +
Cases we won't be investigating:
- Not reported games due dischack or disc
- Opponent floating buildings
- Opponent not wanting to leave the game
- Opponent using manner pylon
- Game leaver before 2 mins
- Changing race right before game started
- Any bugs used during game
- All related ladder complaint issue
This is just one particular sub-forum, it doesn't mean icc ignores disc etc.
OP asked if he could be reported for bm. I quoted the subforum for BM reporting.
On May 27 2009 16:01 LxRogue wrote:Show nested quote +On May 27 2009 14:58 writer22816 wrote:On May 27 2009 14:54 coolcrimefighter wrote:On May 27 2009 14:45 Mastermind wrote:On May 27 2009 14:28 Patriot.dlk wrote:
why won't they investigate leaving before 2 minutes? i like the 2 minute rule. it gives you enough time to determine if the game will be laggy so you can leave. Losing points for that would suck. but if you scout their proxy or 4 pool/all in build within 2 minutes they can leave So can you if you fail to fend it off No you can't... By the time a 4 pool or any rush arrives at your base, it will be past 2 minutes. I think iCCup does give wins if your opponent leaves under 2 mins and he was at a disadvantage, just not extra points for BM.
You don't get a win for reporting leavers under 2 minutes but they will be subtracted -100, and increased amounts of 100 per offense.
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Valhalla18444 Posts
On May 28 2009 22:37 Frits wrote:Show nested quote +On May 28 2009 20:24 FakeSteve[TPR] wrote:
i dont know what a strawman argument is, to me its basically just a term people use during arguments so they dont have to explain themselves
lol nice strawman argument man
anyway, heres six paragraphs about my point again A strawman is the second most used fallacy by people and it's best defined as the following: "Disputing a position by exaggerating it, or otherwise distorting it. Pulling negative spin on an opponent's ideas." Like comparing the saying 'two wrongs don't make a right' with someone randomly smashing you in the face and not being allowed to do anything back. I did actually point out why it was a strawman, I only accompanied it with the word strawman to make it easier for the other side to realize the weakness of the argument so the other person doesn't endlessly repeat the argument anyway.
so why dont you tell them whats wrong with what they said instead of using a phrase that makes you look like an ass
(ps i know what a strawman argument is it just appears in every other post where people are arguing and im preeeeetty sick of it  )
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Strawman is just a bad analogy. Sometimes the guy calling a strawman is right and it's indeed a bad analogy. But sometimes the guy calling strawman is wrong because it was actually a good analogy that he just couldn't understand.
This time I do agree with Frits because it was indeed a ridiculously bad analogy that had nothing to do with the subject lol
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if your opponent BMs I see nothing wrong with BMing back.
If people knew that initiating BM would lead to longer more annoying games and BM back at them they would be less likely to do it. Not BMing back is just being an enabler.
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Valhalla18444 Posts
On May 29 2009 03:05 VIB wrote:
Strawman is just a bad analogy. Sometimes the guy calling a strawman is right and it's indeed a bad analogy. But sometimes the guy calling strawman is wrong because it was actually a good analogy that he just couldn't understand.
This time I do agree with Frits because it was indeed a ridiculously bad analogy that had nothing to do with the subject lol
the phrase itself is what's annoying
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I love strawmen !!
WHAT THE FUCK!
Without them I could never be considered well endowed....
Steve your a bad person, nothing done in game besides vulture drops can be called bm.
Strawmen > tinmen 2-0 GG NO RE, Neck Snap EZ noob.
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On May 28 2009 00:16 jello_biafra wrote:Show nested quote +On May 27 2009 22:55 ishob wrote:On May 27 2009 18:13 jello_biafra wrote:On May 27 2009 17:35 ishob wrote:On May 27 2009 17:02 jello_biafra wrote:
If they initiate the BM then you're free to do as you like. Since when did two wrongs make one right? So if you were to walk up to me and punch me in the face, I couldn't hit you back because "two wrongs don't make a right"? BS I guess you've never heard of being the bigger man. Of course I have, that doesn't mean I'd just walk away if attacked by some guy, that would be called being the pussy. Show nested quote +On May 27 2009 23:09 Frits wrote:On May 27 2009 18:13 jello_biafra wrote:On May 27 2009 17:35 ishob wrote:On May 27 2009 17:02 jello_biafra wrote:
If they initiate the BM then you're free to do as you like. Since when did two wrongs make one right? So if you were to walk up to me and punch me in the face, I couldn't hit you back because "two wrongs don't make a right"? BS I love it when people use strawmen like these, because people walk up to eachother and punch eachother in the face for no reason on a daily basis, great example, not to mention that would be called self defense. Hitting him out of revenge after the incident would definately be wrong. Maybe you should adopt a less egotistical philosophy instead simply of obeying your primal urges as if they constitute morality. Actually I was very recently punched in the face by some guy for no reason whatsoever, that's why I used it as an example, my point was that his gay little idiom thing, while technically true, will deliver injustice in many instances.
The two hardly compare you know. And even if someone were to punch you in the face why would you hit back? I've been punched several times for no reason because i work part-time as a bouncer, but I've never punched anyone back.
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On May 28 2009 22:37 Frits wrote:Show nested quote +On May 28 2009 20:24 FakeSteve[TPR] wrote:
i dont know what a strawman argument is, to me its basically just a term people use during arguments so they dont have to explain themselves
lol nice strawman argument man
anyway, heres six paragraphs about my point again A strawman is the second most used fallacy by people and it's best defined as the following: "Disputing a position by exaggerating it, or otherwise distorting it. Pulling negative spin on an opponent's ideas." Like comparing the saying 'two wrongs don't make a right' with someone randomly smashing you in the face and not being allowed to do anything back. I did actually point out why it was a strawman, I only accompanied it with the word strawman to make it easier for the other side to realize the weakness of the argument so the other person doesn't endlessly repeat the argument anyway.
Dude... That's probably the worst way to define a strawman argument... Strawman argument is just when you compare an argument to something else, and then attack the something else instead of the argument (hence the name ). It has nothing to do with distorting the argument, it's ignoring the argument altogether.
EX: 1: two wrongs don't make a right
2: saying two wrongs don't make a right is like saying -2 x -2 doesn't equal 4, and that's clearly wrong.
1: What?
Person one is obviously talking about moral issues. Person two then claims that person one's argument is just like this other argument, and then proceeds to claim victory attacking the much weaker, but irrelevant argument.
@ OP... If you would have done that whether he called you a noob or not, you're a BM little jerkoff... There's no way you can come back from something like that... However... Whenever someone offensive gg's or is otherwise 'verbally' insulting you, you can pretty much do whatever you want and call it karma. Their strategy and what they chose to build (proxy gateway cheese) is not a reason to do this though.
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On May 29 2009 08:22 Chef wrote:Show nested quote +On May 28 2009 22:37 Frits wrote:On May 28 2009 20:24 FakeSteve[TPR] wrote:
i dont know what a strawman argument is, to me its basically just a term people use during arguments so they dont have to explain themselves
lol nice strawman argument man
anyway, heres six paragraphs about my point again A strawman is the second most used fallacy by people and it's best defined as the following: "Disputing a position by exaggerating it, or otherwise distorting it. Pulling negative spin on an opponent's ideas." Like comparing the saying 'two wrongs don't make a right' with someone randomly smashing you in the face and not being allowed to do anything back. I did actually point out why it was a strawman, I only accompanied it with the word strawman to make it easier for the other side to realize the weakness of the argument so the other person doesn't endlessly repeat the argument anyway. @ OP... If you would have done that whether he called you a noob or not, you're a BM little jerkoff... There's no way you can come back from something like that... However... Whenever someone offensive gg's or is otherwise 'verbally' insulting you, you can pretty much do whatever you want and call it karma. Their strategy and what they chose to build (proxy gateway cheese) is not a reason to do this though.
did u read the part where he was doing both :/?
he did a gay proxy gate wich is very annoying and before that he asked where i was from so i said usa and he said lol noob usa noob.
so it was a combo of both of those things
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On May 29 2009 06:47 ishob wrote:Show nested quote +On May 28 2009 00:16 jello_biafra wrote:On May 27 2009 22:55 ishob wrote:On May 27 2009 18:13 jello_biafra wrote:On May 27 2009 17:35 ishob wrote:On May 27 2009 17:02 jello_biafra wrote:
If they initiate the BM then you're free to do as you like. Since when did two wrongs make one right? So if you were to walk up to me and punch me in the face, I couldn't hit you back because "two wrongs don't make a right"? BS I guess you've never heard of being the bigger man. Of course I have, that doesn't mean I'd just walk away if attacked by some guy, that would be called being the pussy. On May 27 2009 23:09 Frits wrote:On May 27 2009 18:13 jello_biafra wrote:On May 27 2009 17:35 ishob wrote:On May 27 2009 17:02 jello_biafra wrote:
If they initiate the BM then you're free to do as you like. Since when did two wrongs make one right? So if you were to walk up to me and punch me in the face, I couldn't hit you back because "two wrongs don't make a right"? BS I love it when people use strawmen like these, because people walk up to eachother and punch eachother in the face for no reason on a daily basis, great example, not to mention that would be called self defense. Hitting him out of revenge after the incident would definately be wrong. Maybe you should adopt a less egotistical philosophy instead simply of obeying your primal urges as if they constitute morality. Actually I was very recently punched in the face by some guy for no reason whatsoever, that's why I used it as an example, my point was that his gay little idiom thing, while technically true, will deliver injustice in many instances. The two hardly compare you know. And even if someone were to punch you in the face why would you hit back? I've been punched several times for no reason because i work part-time as a bouncer, but I've never punched anyone back.
No in terms of seriousness they don't compare, but the principle is the same and the point remains, if someone punches you in the face you're ENTITLED to hit them back, if someone BMs you you're ENTITLED to BM back, simple fact.
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Sure if someone bm's or hits you there's the possibility to do the same, but that just means stooping to that level. Says something about your character, especially in the hitting people example.
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The BM is simply text on a screen to some random stranger you'll never meet, who cares? And if someone hits you they probably wish to start a fight and won't stop after that, may as well defend yourself.
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