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Profile Blog Joined February 2007
United States81 Posts
May 26 2009 00:47 GMT
#1
Today I played a game on iccup with someone with the nick "Lx.cn" I asked him if he was the Chinese player Legendary and he said he was. I don't know if it was for real though, the apm was only around 140 apparently. He cheesed me too! >_<

He was a C with 2500 pts but he hosted a game that was D/D- -__-

http://repdepot.net/replay.php?id=13335

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DanceCommander
Profile Blog Joined May 2008
United States1808 Posts
May 26 2009 00:49 GMT
#2
I'm going to go out on a limb and say this wasn't the real Lx.
SonuvBob
Profile Blog Joined October 2006
Aiur21549 Posts
May 26 2009 00:49 GMT
#3
No.

http://www.iccup.com/starcraft/matchlist/656061/1x1.html
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FragKrag
Profile Blog Joined September 2007
United States11549 Posts
May 26 2009 00:50 GMT
#4
lol he based D all the way up to C+. How the hell did he get away with that.
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Racenilatr
Profile Blog Joined August 2008
United States2756 Posts
May 26 2009 00:51 GMT
#5
LOL that is so cheap. Hes probably the chinese version of Combat-ex
micronesia
Profile Blog Joined July 2006
United States24648 Posts
May 26 2009 00:54 GMT
#6
He's not cheating... he's just taking advantage of the way the rating system is set up. Ideally the points will be calculated such that the odds of winning directly determine how many points you will get/lose if you have the ability of your current rank. We all know it doesn't necessarily work that way.

Although, if he's hosting a game D/D- and then not giving his opponent opportunity to realize they are against a C, that's bad XD
ModeratorThere are animal crackers for people and there are people crackers for animals.
De4ngus
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
United States6533 Posts
May 26 2009 00:54 GMT
#7
131-19 at C rank. I can't believe people keep joining his games.
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Pods
Profile Blog Joined February 2007
United States81 Posts
May 26 2009 00:56 GMT
#8
oh ok lol
SonuvBob
Profile Blog Joined October 2006
Aiur21549 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-05-26 01:03:13
May 26 2009 00:59 GMT
#9
On May 26 2009 09:54 micronesia wrote:
He's not cheating... he's just taking advantage of the way the rating system is set up. Ideally the points will be calculated such that the odds of winning directly determine how many points you will get/lose if you have the ability of your current rank. We all know it doesn't necessarily work that way.

From the looks of it he's been struggling really hard to even stay at C while D-bashing, so I guess it works well enough. He's lost a lot of games to D's.
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Profile Blog Joined January 2009
Hong Kong4685 Posts
May 26 2009 01:00 GMT
#10
On May 26 2009 09:54 micronesia wrote:
He's not cheating... he's just taking advantage of the way the rating system is set up. Ideally the points will be calculated such that the odds of winning directly determine how many points you will get/lose if you have the ability of your current rank. We all know it doesn't necessarily work that way.

Although, if he's hosting a game D/D- and then not giving his opponent opportunity to realize they are against a C, that's bad XD

That's why I go on my D account sometimes and make games called 1v1 D. 30% of the time, a D+ or higher joins my game. After 2 minutes has gone by, I tell them that they are abusing the ladder system and I will punish them for it. In the end, I'll get a lot of fuck yous and he'll eventually disconnect.
Oracle comes in, Scvs go down, never a miscommunication.
Dromar
Profile Blog Joined June 2007
United States2145 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-05-26 01:12:42
May 26 2009 01:05 GMT
#11
Yeah the fact is when you bash lower ranked players, you gain almost nothing, and lose quite a bit when you lose, so I think it works out fine.

edit: I don't think a D+ playing against a D is "abusing the system." Though generally it seems less acceptable to join a lower ranked game than a higher ranked one (that is, if you're D and join a D+ game, it's more likely to be okay with the guy than if you're D+ and join a D game). Though really, in a D vs D+ situation, I think the D player gets the better deal, because the skill difference isn't really that great, and the D player gets something like +162 or -37 on motw. If you win 25% there you're doing fine.
MasterReY
Profile Blog Joined August 2007
Germany2708 Posts
May 26 2009 01:13 GMT
#12
On May 26 2009 10:00 T.O.P. wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 26 2009 09:54 micronesia wrote:
He's not cheating... he's just taking advantage of the way the rating system is set up. Ideally the points will be calculated such that the odds of winning directly determine how many points you will get/lose if you have the ability of your current rank. We all know it doesn't necessarily work that way.

Although, if he's hosting a game D/D- and then not giving his opponent opportunity to realize they are against a C, that's bad XD

That's why I go on my D account sometimes and make games called 1v1 D. 30% of the time, a D+ or higher joins my game. After 2 minutes has gone by, I tell them that they are abusing the ladder system and I will punish them for it. In the end, I'll get a lot of fuck yous and he'll eventually disconnect.


how do they abuse the system???
the system is perfect...lower skill of opponent = lower chance to get many points, high risk to lose many pts. its PERFECTLY fine.

and high ranks who join D games just decided for themself that they will play many many many games against lower skilled players instead of gaining the same in just a few games.
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micronesia
Profile Blog Joined July 2006
United States24648 Posts
May 26 2009 01:20 GMT
#13
On May 26 2009 10:13 MasterReY wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 26 2009 10:00 T.O.P. wrote:
On May 26 2009 09:54 micronesia wrote:
He's not cheating... he's just taking advantage of the way the rating system is set up. Ideally the points will be calculated such that the odds of winning directly determine how many points you will get/lose if you have the ability of your current rank. We all know it doesn't necessarily work that way.

Although, if he's hosting a game D/D- and then not giving his opponent opportunity to realize they are against a C, that's bad XD

That's why I go on my D account sometimes and make games called 1v1 D. 30% of the time, a D+ or higher joins my game. After 2 minutes has gone by, I tell them that they are abusing the ladder system and I will punish them for it. In the end, I'll get a lot of fuck yous and he'll eventually disconnect.


how do they abuse the system???
the system is perfect...lower skill of opponent = lower chance to get many points, high risk to lose many pts. its PERFECTLY fine.

and high ranks who join D games just decided for themself that they will play many many many games against lower skilled players instead of gaining the same in just a few games.

I mean the formulas they use for calculating how many points you win/lose are not accurate.
ModeratorThere are animal crackers for people and there are people crackers for animals.
imperfect
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
Canada1652 Posts
May 26 2009 01:26 GMT
#14
I remember there was also a Fengzi.cn that did the exact same thing

http://www.iccup.com/starcraft/matchlist/627717/1x1.html

made me lol

i wanted to make a smurf account just to beat him
blind bisu free and anytime fanboy.
dhe95
Profile Blog Joined December 2008
United States1213 Posts
May 26 2009 01:31 GMT
#15
Notice the times of these games... all cheese vs D players. I think if you decide to play iCCup, one of the 1st things you should learn is how to scout and defend early aggression =P
clazziquai
Profile Blog Joined October 2007
6685 Posts
May 26 2009 01:35 GMT
#16
+25 for a win. AHAHA.

That record, if he didn't abuse like that, would make him like A- or A, correct?
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Ingenol
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
United States1328 Posts
May 26 2009 02:02 GMT
#17
Chinese players are incapable of moving their fingers slowly enough to achieve only 140 APM.
naonao
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
United States847 Posts
May 26 2009 02:18 GMT
#18
lol all he plays is python, he'd be C+ ez if he played MOTW
R3condite
Profile Joined August 2008
Korea (South)1541 Posts
May 26 2009 02:20 GMT
#19
lols this is hillarious!
ggyo...
KwarK
Profile Blog Joined July 2006
United States42429 Posts
May 26 2009 02:28 GMT
#20
People like this make me happy to make new accounts and play at D.
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