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Strayline
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
United States330 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-05-22 21:38:57
May 22 2009 21:38 GMT
#1
So I host games usually. Usually just <My Rank> <Map Name> <Random Stuff for Uniqueness> so in theory I should be playing against a random section of D (yeah I suck) people on iCCUP and for the most part I get different people every game.

But for some reason it seems like I get bizarre runs of games where like 4 out of 6 (presumably unrelated) people do the exact same thing. And the next day it will be totally different.

And it's not like "oh I played three Terrans and they all played a MM game--call CNN." Yesterday it was three Zergs in a row going 9 pool and bringing two drones to offensive sunken. I'm sure today I will see no Zergs at all and a bunch of protoss will independently decide to all go Sair-Reaver.

Sometimes I can discern a reason. There was a day or two like right after Baby did that cringe-inducing (Yeah, I'm Zerg) Wraith game in GOM when I played a lot vs Terrans with suspiciously-high-apm going 2port.

Side note: for those of you who don't know, 2port is like the worst way to lose a ZvT... it's like slowly losing to a MM drop over 7 minutes. Fuck you Baby

Seriously though, I'm not really complaining about this. It actually helps quite a bit to play against the same non-standard game multiple times in rapid succession and my 2port defense is much stronger now for the experience.

Sometimes there's an explanation (or at least I connect it to something) but usually it seems completely random and it usually only lasts for like a day or two and then it's over. I'm not talking about something like going mech TvZ.

What I'm really curious about is does this happen to everyone? Am I going crazy? Some days it seems like everyone is protoss and then they will mysteriously disappear into the ether. What's up with that?

rsvp
Profile Blog Joined January 2006
United States2266 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-05-22 21:45:50
May 22 2009 21:44 GMT
#2
small sample size + availability heuristic

[EDIT] So yes this happens to everyone, but it's perfectly normal and not weird at all.
ZeroCartin
Profile Blog Joined March 2008
Costa Rica2390 Posts
May 22 2009 21:46 GMT
#3
hah, It's happened to me alot as well I played the other day, and 4 zergs in a row did a 5pool *im not even kiddin*

And ive played really weird pvp games where they proxy gate on a weird location as well. I think it has to do with the most recent VODs that have been played, and people trying to copy them
"My sister is on vacation in Costa Rica right now. I hope she stays a while because she's a miserable cunt." -pubbanana
Strayline
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
United States330 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-05-22 21:48:37
May 22 2009 21:48 GMT
#4
On May 23 2009 06:44 Anihc wrote:
small sample size + availability heuristic

[EDIT] So yes this happens to everyone, but it's perfectly normal and not weird at all.


But it's not the same people. The probability of two unrelated people doing the same strat seems the same if drawn from a pool of 10 or 100.
MoeMoeKyun
Profile Joined January 2009
United States215 Posts
May 22 2009 21:49 GMT
#5
So far, every TvZ at the D+ rank for me have been 9 pool into 3 hatch speed lings, which is why now that I can counter it and know how to spot it(ZOMG THANK YOU SO MUCH STYLISH AND OTHER TERRANS WHO HELPED ME) I think I'll hit C-.
I lol in ur general direction
anderoo
Profile Blog Joined March 2008
Canada1876 Posts
May 22 2009 21:50 GMT
#6
a LOT of times after a cute cheese is done in proleague you will see people p;laying the eact map, asking only for the exact matchup
which imo is a great opportunity to get an easy win, could they telegraph their build any better?
micronesia
Profile Blog Joined July 2006
United States24767 Posts
May 22 2009 21:53 GMT
#7
Yeah I notice these timely trends sometimes also. It's a combination of random luck, popular short-term trends, and your perspective which disallows you from evaluating all data 100% objectively.
ModeratorThere are animal crackers for people and there are people crackers for animals.
rsvp
Profile Blog Joined January 2006
United States2266 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-05-22 21:55:26
May 22 2009 21:54 GMT
#8
On May 23 2009 06:48 Strayline wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 23 2009 06:44 Anihc wrote:
small sample size + availability heuristic

[EDIT] So yes this happens to everyone, but it's perfectly normal and not weird at all.


But it's not the same people. The probability of two unrelated people doing the same strat seems the same if drawn from a pool of 10 or 100.


The likelihood of getting 2 heads from 2 coin flips (100% heads) is much more likely than getting 100 heads from 100 coin flips (also 100% heads).
Chef
Profile Blog Joined August 2005
10810 Posts
May 22 2009 21:59 GMT
#9
Count yourself blessed then. Most people have to deal with a completely new and different strat every time they play so they don't get the opportunity to really counter it.

It depends on the map though. Since I can't create, I'm playing different maps.
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paper
Profile Blog Joined September 2004
13196 Posts
May 22 2009 23:05 GMT
#10
when he was bored, my friend used to 1v1 people on b.net and change IDs once people wouldnt give re's and keep owning them with silly strats

maybe the same situation here :3
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R3condite
Profile Joined August 2008
Korea (South)1541 Posts
May 22 2009 23:20 GMT
#11
On May 23 2009 08:05 paper wrote:
when he was bored, my friend used to 1v1 people on b.net and change IDs once people wouldnt give re's and keep owning them with silly strats

maybe the same situation here :3

rofl nice mind fuk
ggyo...
Grobyc
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
Canada18410 Posts
May 22 2009 23:20 GMT
#12
On May 23 2009 08:05 paper wrote:
when he was bored, my friend used to 1v1 people on b.net and change IDs once people wouldnt give re's and keep owning them with silly strats

maybe the same situation here :3

I'd do that after playing someone who cheeses you then after he wins he rms and does it to someone else. If I joined again and was wary of his constant cheesing he would just ban me. So what I did is just make a new account then do the hardest-counter BO to his . They usually call me a hacker but it's all good =]
If you watch Godzilla backwards it's about a benevolent lizard who helps rebuild a city and then moonwalks into the ocean.
niteReloaded
Profile Blog Joined February 2007
Croatia5282 Posts
May 22 2009 23:44 GMT
#13
I see what you mean man.

Today 3 of my opponents left the game within the first minute.
I'm guessing it has something to do with the lag tho.
Arrian
Profile Blog Joined February 2008
United States889 Posts
May 22 2009 23:52 GMT
#14
In a somewhat related note, I've had days where nearly every game I've had my expo delayed by an ebay or a pylon outside of general probe/scv douchebaggery, and then days where it never happens at all.
Writersator arepo tenet opera rotas
da_head
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
Canada3350 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-05-23 01:58:14
May 23 2009 01:56 GMT
#15
yeah i know what you mean. today i played a shitload of zerg (racepicking faggots >.> ) and they all seem to do this exact build, which basically goes like this:

double expand
muta harass
mass hydras
lurker contain
ultra ling

and i can't really handle it well >.>
When they see MC Probe, all the ladies disrobe.
Mastermind
Profile Blog Joined April 2008
Canada7096 Posts
May 23 2009 02:12 GMT
#16
If you played protoss you would feel this every time you played zerg. 9pool into ling run by every fucking game.
goswser
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
United States3548 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-05-23 02:25:23
May 23 2009 02:22 GMT
#17
when you change ids isnt he already in middle of a game when you come back?
ramp block if you scout it??
say you were born into a jungle indian tribe where food was scarce...would you run around from teepee to teepee stealing meat scraps after a day lazying around doing nothing except warming urself by a fire that you didn't even make yourself? -rekrul
Mastermind
Profile Blog Joined April 2008
Canada7096 Posts
May 23 2009 02:24 GMT
#18
On May 23 2009 11:22 Newguy wrote:
ramp block if you scout it??

yes, but i am just saying that is the strat they use almost every game. I am not saying they are successful every game.
MONSTEr2
Profile Joined February 2009
United States43 Posts
May 23 2009 02:28 GMT
#19
cause u see a progamer do somthing and u wanta do it like that 8 rax 9 gas 11 factory build flash did vs effort
Strayline
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
United States330 Posts
May 23 2009 03:04 GMT
#20
On May 23 2009 08:05 paper wrote:
when he was bored, my friend used to 1v1 people on b.net and change IDs once people wouldnt give re's and keep owning them with silly strats

maybe the same situation here :3


You know... I've honestly wondered. Except if it is your friend, he's really good at playing at wildly different APMs and skill levels while doing the same strat
AttackZerg
Profile Blog Joined January 2003
United States7475 Posts
May 23 2009 06:54 GMT
#21
I always go out of my way to try and play immediately after proleague or one of the leagues.

It is so awesome to see skyhigh beat jaedong with a cheese, then host a game on iccup asking for a terran, and waiting for it =).

Because I watch alot of starcraft I feel the strategic shifting day to day. I mean mech is rephasing out pretty hard right now which sucks because I was starting to really enjoy the giant macro wars!
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