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god damn!
I've been playing with Leta's TvZ build a bit yesterday and now today a bit, and I must say I fucking love it.
Standard TvZ was always so exhausting for me, I didn't feel like having fun enough. It was a race who can do the same old shit a second faster without fucking everything up.
With Leta's Wraith build, and Fantasy's mech, I feel there's SOOO much more small decisions to make throughout the entire game, so many room for small improvisations that I'm fucking loving every second of the TvZs I play now.
Thank you iloveoov for starting all of this,
thank you fantasy for showing how it's done
thank you Leta for being a badass and doing what you do ~
Perhaps I just sucked at standard TvZ, but I never really was motivated enough to perfect my BO in millisecond just to stand a chance against Zergs of my ICC level.
I simply love the way TvZ feels when playing this build.
Now, the truth is I lost the majority of the games, but that can be attributed to the fact that I didn't really practice this build at all(i mean in single player like some ppl do).
I went straight to discovering the timings in games vs real opponents and the games were still fun.
I'm at C-/C level Terran and here's a couple of games if anyone is interested.
- RepDepot link to the list of games: http://repdepot.net/player.php?id=5669
- All reps in Zip file: http://www.sendspace.com/file/rdncan
The games are sorted by autoreplay saver, so the newer ones should be better.
I have motivation to play now, can't wait to get better at this build.
see you ~
 
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try the hwasin BRFS build :D
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On May 21 2009 17:56 GTR wrote:
try the hwasin BRFS build :D
hhm what? factory on 9??
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On May 21 2009 17:56 GTR wrote:
try the hwasin BRFS build :D
Wasnt Mind the one to use that build? I think he used it in GOM season 1 didnt he?
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Korea (South)3086 Posts
On May 21 2009 17:56 GTR wrote:
try the hwasin BRFS build :D
What does that even stand for?
Barracks, Refinery, Factory, Starport? lol?
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konadora
Singapore66160 Posts
On May 21 2009 18:54 SilverskY wrote:What does that even stand for? Barracks, Refinery, Factory, Starport? lol?
barracks refinery factory supply depot
Watch Hwasin vs Hyvaa, game 1 for bacchus osl
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I watched beggerterran practice some cheese strat on Destination of Afreeca for a while since he had some clan war or something.
He would bunker rush backed up with vultures and then into two port wraiths if he had to.
He would sent like 3 SCVs with the bunker rush after 8 rax. So it was pretty hard to stop. And then when zerg would have the lings to kill the bunker he would have vultures out that would either make the bunker succesful or sneak around and kill all drones.
Only way to beat it with a 12 hatch was to outmicro the terran big time. He ended up winning like 15 practice games, losing like only 2 or so vs 9 pool, and then won the match in the clanwar.
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On May 21 2009 18:57 konadora wrote:Show nested quote +On May 21 2009 18:54 SilverskY wrote:On May 21 2009 17:56 GTR wrote:
try the hwasin BRFS build :D What does that even stand for? Barracks, Refinery, Factory, Starport? lol? barracks refinery factory supply depot Watch Hwasin vs Hyvaa, game 1 for bacchus osl
I don't remember ever seeing this build, but this sounds horribly obnoxious! And congrats on discovering a new play to play TvZ. Whenever I offrace as Terran, playing TvZ, I can't play it at ALL, so I think I'll give this build a try.
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Thank Baby also for showing how to semi-own someone with wraiths.
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konadora
Singapore66160 Posts
On May 21 2009 19:20 Archaic wrote:Show nested quote +On May 21 2009 18:57 konadora wrote:On May 21 2009 18:54 SilverskY wrote:On May 21 2009 17:56 GTR wrote:
try the hwasin BRFS build :D What does that even stand for? Barracks, Refinery, Factory, Starport? lol? barracks refinery factory supply depot Watch Hwasin vs Hyvaa, game 1 for bacchus osl I don't remember ever seeing this build, but this sounds horribly obnoxious! And congrats on discovering a new play to play TvZ. Whenever I offrace as Terran, playing TvZ, I can't play it at ALL, so I think I'll give this build a try.
It's a low econ yet very effective build in terms of defense AND offense, as long as it's not scouted too early.
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How soon does the first vulture get out in this build? Is it fast enough to beat a sunken at the natural?
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konadora
Singapore66160 Posts
On May 21 2009 20:43 EvoChamber wrote:
How soon does the first vulture get out in this build? Is it fast enough to beat a sunken at the natural?
From the game (hyvaa vs Hwasin), vulture was out when lings were done and creep colony wasn't even placed. That might be because Hyvaa went 3 hatch though...
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id like leta more if he didnt knock out the obviously superior flash last starleague
these wounds, they will not heal
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Just watched the game.
It's like a ranged 5pool.
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On May 21 2009 20:43 EvoChamber wrote:
How soon does the first vulture get out in this build? Is it fast enough to beat a sunken at the natural?
I think if you use scvs to block zerg from making a creep colony your vulture will arrive before his sunks are up which was shown in mind vs ggplay on neo requiem. The first time i saw this build was when hwasin used it vs jaedong on blue storm. He proxied a fact at 12 and lifted the fact into jaedong's main.
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On May 21 2009 20:58 Frits wrote:
id like leta more if he didnt knock out the obviously superior flash last starleague
these wounds, they will not heal
god its not so bad but he beat him but did you see how fucking HAPPY HE WAS after he bbsed on harmony?
cheesing a superior player, ok ya its smart especially when the stakes are that high.. but who the fuck could feel accomplished about that shit.
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On May 21 2009 21:15 IdrA wrote:Show nested quote +On May 21 2009 20:58 Frits wrote:
id like leta more if he didnt knock out the obviously superior flash last starleague
these wounds, they will not heal god its not so bad but he beat him but did you see how fucking HAPPY HE WAS after he bbsed on harmony? cheesing a superior player, ok ya its smart especially when the stakes are that high.. but who the fuck could feel accomplished about that shit.
Flash himself would. He was very happy when he cheesed Bisu out of the MSL, remember? I mean, are you seriously blaming Leta for being happy about just having reached the Ro8 in a Starleague? I do not think Leta was thinking ''OMG, cheesing makes me so happy!''.
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Fucking 2port wraiths is the bane of my existence.
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United States11390 Posts
On May 22 2009 00:51 koreasilver wrote:
Fucking 2port wraiths is the bane of my existence.
I like when the other T 2ports but forgets how to macro due to pew pew wraith micro.
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I love seeing these builds.  Makes the game so much more varied. Too bad I stopped playing. Still, fun to see.
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On May 22 2009 00:53 Harem wrote:Show nested quote +On May 22 2009 00:51 koreasilver wrote:
Fucking 2port wraiths is the bane of my existence. I like when the other T 2ports but forgets how to macro due to pew pew wraith micro.
It's not fun when you play against a smurf account by a superior player that is practicing the build. There is nothing else in the entire game that makes me feel as completely helpless.
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On May 22 2009 01:14 koreasilver wrote:Show nested quote +On May 22 2009 00:53 Harem wrote:On May 22 2009 00:51 koreasilver wrote:
Fucking 2port wraiths is the bane of my existence. I like when the other T 2ports but forgets how to macro due to pew pew wraith micro. It's not fun when you play against a smurf account by a superior player that is practicing the build. There is nothing else in the entire game that makes me feel as completely helpless.
And there's nothing I like more in the entire game than smashing those fucker drones into the ground with 1 shot while taking almost no damage!
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On May 22 2009 01:23 niteReloaded wrote:Show nested quote +On May 22 2009 01:14 koreasilver wrote:On May 22 2009 00:53 Harem wrote:On May 22 2009 00:51 koreasilver wrote:
Fucking 2port wraiths is the bane of my existence. I like when the other T 2ports but forgets how to macro due to pew pew wraith micro. It's not fun when you play against a smurf account by a superior player that is practicing the build. There is nothing else in the entire game that makes me feel as completely helpless. And there's nothing I like more in the entire game than smashing those fucker drones into the ground with 1 shot while taking almost no damage!
Yeah, it's an immensly satisfying feeling.
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