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On May 19 2009 00:47 Chef wrote:
What... I meant if you're going to school and have a job at the same time, then university might be hard. But if you're just doing university... That's about 15 hours of classes a week, + studying. Like... I don't even know what to say. For an undergraduate, they want you to pay all your years of tuition, they're not going out of their way to make things difficult... There's tonnes of counselling, student services, and library resources to help you. Prof's have to maintain a certain number of office hours just for students who are having difficulty... If someone doesn't take advantage of any of these, and they fail, they didn't fail because university is so hard... I mean... I can't even imagine failing putting the minimal effort I do now, much less if I went full force. If you want to say university is hard it's because you want to feel superior to people who aren't wealthy enough to be in university.
Really... High school was more demanding.
Don't assume why I'm saying these things, the reasons I'm saying these things are laid out in my posts. You said university is easy, I disagree. I'm not making a case for university being hard, I'm making a case for university not being easy, as you said in your sweeping statement, which was extremely ignorant.
I know the support is there for students but that doesn't make it easy. High school might have been more demanding for you, great, but don't be ignorant enough to think that all people have it easy at university.
EDIT: To clarify I meant I'm supposed to do 45 hours of uni work a week, 20-25 hours at uni for lectures/labs and 20-25 hours studying in my own time. I don't consider that easy.
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damn OP, you're silly. you're seriously considering giving up your relations with your family over a few days of work? like, how do you even think that a few days of your time holds more value than people that unconditionally love you and will be there for you no matter what?
and have you even thought of it from their point of view? Here's their kid, a total whiny brat who won't even come home for the weekend to see the family, and instead swears at his father? like omg, how do you think they feel?
honestly, you don't act like you're 20 or whatever at all =/
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I know how you feel man, I'm one of those really, really broke college students myself, and as many people here already know, I barely got the money for my food xD so I know what you're going through.
Fuck those who want community service from you.
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Despite whatever logic or reasoning you can think of, it's not going to work.
I tried all that stuff on my parents too (korean)
In the end, you give up, give in, and things work out much better.
Then you wonder why you didn't do that sooner.
It's really really hard to force yourself to just give unconditional respect to your parents but just try your best to do so.
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On May 18 2009 14:14 anderoo wrote:
5/5 for "douchecanoe"
And I agree with Chef Uni isn't hard to pass.
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On May 19 2009 13:42 seppolevne wrote:And I agree with Chef Uni isn't hard to pass.
It's a pretty ignorant thing to agree with.
How can you know whether uni is difficult for a person or not until you know
-Their religion, and respective piety
-Their family and family history
-Their socio-economic class
-Their artistic and literary talents
-Their sensitivity, romanticism and sentimentalism
-Their patriotism, provincialism, and rootedness in their native culture
-Their cooking, cleaning and other domestic abilities
-Their mental and emotional stability
-Their historical attitude and preferences regarding bourgeois family life
-Their racial origins (if not already clear)
-Their feminine virtues (virginity, modesty, etc)
+ Show Spoiler + but seriously, how can you say something is "SO ez" without even taking into account basic things such as which university/college the person is attending, what the person is studying, the person's course load, etc? Come on.
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On May 19 2009 02:39 EsX_Raptor wrote:
I know how you feel man, I'm one of those really, really broke college students myself, and as many people here already know, I barely got the money for my food xD so I know what you're going through.
Fuck those who want community service from you.
It's not community service if it's for your parents.
On May 19 2009 13:42 seppolevne wrote:And I agree with Chef Uni isn't hard to pass.
It's not hard for most people (most being people with single majors, and who aren't looking to be top premed grad), but it's not easy...not by a long shot.
To OP:
Easy is working and being given food and room and board.
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On May 19 2009 15:53 Reflex wrote:Show nested quote +On May 19 2009 13:42 seppolevne wrote:On May 18 2009 14:14 anderoo wrote:
5/5 for "douchecanoe" And I agree with Chef Uni isn't hard to pass. It's a pretty ignorant thing to agree with. How can you know whether uni is difficult for a person or not until you know -Their religion, and respective piety -Their family and family history -Their socio-economic class -Their artistic and literary talents -Their sensitivity, romanticism and sentimentalism -Their patriotism, provincialism, and rootedness in their native culture -Their cooking, cleaning and other domestic abilities -Their mental and emotional stability -Their historical attitude and preferences regarding bourgeois family life -Their racial origins (if not already clear) -Their feminine virtues (virginity, modesty, etc) + Show Spoiler + but seriously, how can you say something is "SO ez" without even taking into account basic things such as which university/college the person is attending, what the person is studying, the person's course load, etc? Come on.
Just going to sorta nitpick and say that "SO ez" is not the same as "isn't hard". Yes the difficulty will vary from person to person. Maybe what I consider an effort level of "easy" someone else considers "hard". 40 hours of work a week I would consider "normal", as everyone has to do it. If you want to get an A in everything while volunteering 20 hours a week, yes/maybe that would be hard, but if you managed to get into university, getting a degree is nothing that you haven't already dealt with.
Dunno, I posted that (the first one) quick, and if you (or someone else) could respond I would like to clear up my own (conflicted) thoughts about it.
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College back in the 70's i think was way fucking easier than what it is today. Think about it, entrance exams: The fucking SATs just got raised to 2400 because of a new section added. That's like saying people used to be way taller back in the day: they used to measure their heights in feet, and now (most) people use meters, and have less of them.
I remember a biblical passage where the children must respect the parents or something like that. He pulled that today and he hasn't been to church in ages, yeah hes a real disciple. the rest of the quote states that in order for the parent to receive that respect, they must respect the children in return. I guess he read that first half a long time ago, didn't finish, and went to town with it. Uh...what quote are you thinking of? Isn't the 5th commandment the one that comes to mind?
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dude, I know we already established you live right nearby me & whatnot
so now we will establish that if you ever want to come over and get wasted, smoke hookah (or smoke something else, heh-heh-heh), you're more welcome to come chill out & relax
p.s. also 5/5'd for douchecanoe lol
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On May 19 2009 02:34 JeeJee wrote:
damn OP, you're silly. you're seriously considering giving up your relations with your family over a few days of work?
It's obviously about more than that. And this is an anonymous rant on the internet so don't expect everything in his post to be completely accurate and truthful.
But, OP, I'm still trying to figure out how to fucking talk to my dad too. He's way off in his own world and since I can't find a job (applied over 15 places and followed up at every one) he's going insane. This might just be a stage of fatherhood
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