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LosingID8
Profile Blog Joined December 2006
CA10828 Posts
May 15 2009 15:06 GMT
#21
On May 15 2009 23:08 Plexa wrote:
brb cleansing myself at the MBCHero Shrine

lol
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konadora *
Profile Blog Joined February 2009
Singapore66357 Posts
May 15 2009 15:10 GMT
#22
On May 15 2009 23:50 Elyvilon wrote:
Great article Plexa! Just one nitpick:

Show nested quote +
On May 15 2009 22:52 Plexa wrote:
In 2008 Lecaf exploded, as most of you already know. With a beastly lineup of HiyA, fOrGG, Lomo, Backho, Anytime and lead by Jaedong - they dominated the Proleague (runner up in Shinhan Proleague 08)

Unless I'm misunderstanding something, Lecaf didn't even make the playoffs in the 2008 proleague, and the runner-up was OGN.

Yeah it seems the one Lecaf made it into was the 2007 Grand Finals, not the 2008 one.
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Plexa
Profile Blog Joined October 2005
Aotearoa39261 Posts
May 15 2009 15:15 GMT
#23
On May 16 2009 00:01 samachking wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 15 2009 23:50 Elyvilon wrote:
Great article Plexa! Just one nitpick:

On May 15 2009 22:52 Plexa wrote:
In 2008 Lecaf exploded, as most of you already know. With a beastly lineup of HiyA, fOrGG, Lomo, Backho, Anytime and lead by Jaedong - they dominated the Proleague (runner up in Shinhan Proleague 08)

Unless I'm misunderstanding something, Lecaf didn't even make the playoffs in the 2008 proleague, and the runner-up was OGN.


Yeah, Anytime was slumping that season, but what he is probably thinking of is Lecaf raping the individuals right and left, I think lecaf's big 5 had atleast 3 players in ro16/8 of all the 3 leagues. Hiya wasnt part of the big 5 then.

Thanks for the great write up Plexa, nice to see JD's 2006 stats, but shouldnt he be less than 15-4 ZvP? I recall him being 15-15 ZvP when facing stork, did you mix up his ZvT and ZvP? Because his ZvT was considered his best MU or the mu hes known most for in 06.
Nope, he raped up ZvT in 07/slumped ZvP in 07 is why his stats looked like that

On May 15 2009 23:50 Elyvilon wrote:
Great article Plexa! Just one nitpick:

Show nested quote +
On May 15 2009 22:52 Plexa wrote:
In 2008 Lecaf exploded, as most of you already know. With a beastly lineup of HiyA, fOrGG, Lomo, Backho, Anytime and lead by Jaedong - they dominated the Proleague (runner up in Shinhan Proleague 08)

Unless I'm misunderstanding something, Lecaf didn't even make the playoffs in the 2008 proleague, and the runner-up was OGN.

Ah yes you are right.. i was thinking 2007 league when they were runner up to khan and got the years confused
thnx
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fnaticNoname
Profile Joined January 2008
India858 Posts
May 15 2009 15:32 GMT
#24
Nice writeup, Oz ftw!
snorlax
Profile Blog Joined December 2008
United States755 Posts
May 15 2009 16:02 GMT
#25
Sweaty backho picture made me lol
IdrA
Profile Blog Joined July 2004
United States11541 Posts
May 15 2009 16:22 GMT
#26
comparing hiya lomo backho to sea light pusan back then
lol
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Deleted User 31060
Profile Blog Joined September 2007
3788 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-05-15 16:47:55
May 15 2009 16:46 GMT
#27
On May 15 2009 23:03 Harem wrote:
omg

I never thought I'd see the day



this is good progress Plexa!!!

great writeup, I really hope backho starts owning everybody

edit: oh, and probably the one thing you can say about HiyA is that he turtles harder than pretty much anybody
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RebirthOfLeGenD
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
USA5860 Posts
May 15 2009 16:46 GMT
#28
pff and Ace doesn't have that rich of a history, the teams only like 2 years old :D I just like the members of the team and that's what I look at. They are all stars in their own respect.
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omninmo
Profile Blog Joined April 2008
2349 Posts
May 15 2009 16:55 GMT
#29
this is so amazing. thanks plexa. what a great series you will have when this is all done. you deserve an eggo.
IntoTheWow
Profile Blog Joined May 2004
is awesome32277 Posts
May 15 2009 17:19 GMT
#30
lol Pusan.

Oh, that quote is so truth. Some players moving teams are just... so sad.

Nal_rA, Anytime, GoRush, July, Bisu....
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Gray[FH
Profile Joined January 2009
152 Posts
May 15 2009 17:41 GMT
#31
great write-up!
jaedong!!
<3
Scorch
Profile Blog Joined March 2008
Austria3371 Posts
May 15 2009 17:56 GMT
#32
Nicely written Plexa!
I wouldn't have thought that OZ could continue performing decently after losing Anytime and ForGG.
GHOSTCLAW
Profile Blog Joined February 2008
United States17042 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-05-15 18:07:57
May 15 2009 18:02 GMT
#33
sticky!

Backho has gotten a ton better. A huge amount.

And where on earth are people going to find the OP for rek's "slumps don't exist" thread...that's a small look into progaming, gone for forever.
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imperfect
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
Canada1652 Posts
May 15 2009 19:08 GMT
#34
i only liked Oz because Anytime was there.

now they're just ...


sick write up though!
blind bisu free and anytime fanboy.
KwarK
Profile Blog Joined July 2006
United States43271 Posts
May 15 2009 19:49 GMT
#35
I disagree that the OSL is all that matters and I'm not sure how you can say that when the MSL has been around for as long as it has, has had all the most prestigious players representing in it (strangely the MSL finalists are generally a better guide to who is on top than the OSL) and has the same prize money and competitiveness.
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Nanoo
Profile Joined March 2009
229 Posts
May 15 2009 19:54 GMT
#36
thats beautiful...thanx plexa
zdubius
Profile Joined May 2008
Slovakia126 Posts
May 15 2009 20:08 GMT
#37
Excellent article, I found especially the team's history very interesting. I had a vague idea they had a hard time in their beginning, but your text added much needed info. Thanks a lot for your effort.
Ver
Profile Joined October 2008
United States2186 Posts
May 15 2009 20:35 GMT
#38
I love your writeups and am very glad you're doing them again. However, are blogs the right place for this kind of top quality writing? I feel like they aren't getting the attention they deserve and that broodwar/FEs would be better. I've missed several weeks since I keep forgetting they exist as I never check blogs.

As for Jaedong vs Flash in terms of consistency, I think it's moreso along the lines of Flash never ever losing to C level players and always advancing to at least the group stages of every single league (whereas Jaedong randomly doesn't qualify sometimes i,e losing to Han and not making the next OSL either). So when it gets to deeper rounds you have Flash playing games every single day and then suddenly implodes, drops all his games at once, and subsequently slumps while Jaedong can cruise by in just one league after losing in the others (the only time he ever advanced far in two leagues at once was in Arena/GSL1, which is kinda strange since he was slumping then). It is indeed a bizarre thing though; perhaps Jaedong simply has an advantage because he can rely on at least one person (anytime/forgg before, now hiya) to do something in proleague whereas Flash has literally nobody now that 2v2 is gone. Or maybe Jaedong's insane practice regime gives him extra stamina that Flash doesn't have or something.

On May 15 2009 22:52 Plexa wrote:Jaedong, on the other hand never gave in to those pressures and knew what life was like on the other side. He maintained his commitment to being the best and as a result has many more golds than Bisu has (at least, with respect to golds that matter ie OSL).


This kind of jumped out of the woodwork though; that's a pretty weak comment from somewhat so knowledgable like you. That's like saying July's golds are more impressive than iloveoov's and Savior's when it's blatantly not the case. Imo OSL winners are generally inferior to MSL winners because the MSL winners are the ones who just continue their streak whereas aside from Boxer/Nada every OSL winner never goes far in the next one and sometimes are just lucky people who never do anything again (Sync, Casy, GGplay among others). MSL's only winner who does not have another gold is ForGG, while Reach, Xellos, Kingdom, Anytime, and the above three have won an OSL and never any other league. OSL's maps are often more interesting but they usually are way more imbalanced as well (probably a big factor).

Also, which were the seasons where Anytime did really well in proleague? I know he went on a ridiculous tear in the 07-08 league but I had always thought he established himself as one of the best proleague players ever before that. I just can't find what season(s).

I can't wait to see your MBC writeup and what you have on Light; he's an interesting player I'd really like to know moree about.
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pubbanana
Profile Blog Joined June 2005
United States3063 Posts
May 15 2009 20:41 GMT
#39
Didn't read the thread, but in the first picture, the players are ToSky, PuSan, Eliza, Freshen, MuMyung, and SinDoki. Freshen used to be one of my absolute favorite Terrans.
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Lucktar
Profile Joined July 2008
United States526 Posts
May 15 2009 20:44 GMT
#40
I'd go gay for Lomo. =\
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