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Valor Tournament Log 2

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StRyKeR
Profile Blog Joined January 2006
United States1739 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-05-05 09:05:14
May 05 2009 08:57 GMT
#1
Owned
That is, I'm owned.

When I wrote the first log, I was at 46-9, ranked B- with 6307 points.

As I am writing this log, I am at 81-45, ranked B with 7296 points.

How I Got Here
As with before, I played only ZvTs, my best matchup.

But certain things happened. MOTW kept changing, so I had to play Blue Storm for a week and then Colosseum. Supposedly, Blue Storm favors Zerg, but I couldn't tell. I got owned on that map. My rec is 8-9 on that map. Then Colosseum. Oh boy, did mech kick the shit out of me on that map. Went 14-15 on Colosseum.

Now the MOTW includes Destination again. Destination is my favorite map. Or so I thought. I went 46-9 on Destination till C+. Against B, B+ level players, I'm 4-10 TT.

Notable Foreigners
The coolest thing I'm getting out of this tournament is playing notable foreigners.

Tidy 2-2
Tarson 2-4
Napoleon 1-1
Advokate 0-1
Undergrounder 0-3 (don't know his aka, he was good and he's from Russia)
IFU.Lucky 2-1 (notable? maybe not)
AccordV6 0-1
SrControl 1-1

Gosu Koreans
They're freaking good, especially at B level. I ran into two or three that I deemed untouchable. I mean that I thought I had absolutely no chance even had things gone my way. The untouchables were superior in macro, micro, you name it. It was a feeling of hopelessness that told me to quit SC.

Here are some replays of me vs. Koreans:
odysseus (I'm 2-5 against this 16-year old. He 8-rax rushed me to death 3x though. Me and my noob 8-rax defense.)
EPIC WIN http://dl.getdropbox.com/u/4422/replays/notables/1096 odysseusT VALStRyKeRZ.rep
EPIC FAIL http://dl.getdropbox.com/u/4422/replays/notables/1094 odysseusT VALStRyKeRZ.rep (damn long game TT)

onesoldier (This kid is just sick. His multitask >>>> mine.)
http://dl.getdropbox.com/u/4422/replays/notables/1088 VALStRyKeRZ onesoldieT.rep

NameAcademy8 (There's a bunch of these IDs. NameAcademyX. I think they're all part of some guild or clan or something. They're all pretty good. Amateurs in training?)
http://dl.getdropbox.com/u/4422/replays/notables/1058 VALStRyKeRZ nameacadeT.rep
He does a mnm + fast valk for muta defense. I think this build has gotten more popular nowadays. I believe the correct counter is to take out the valks and score points with mutas. They'll have at most one group of marine+med and two valks, so if you know they're doing valks just make some scourge and harass with mutas like your life depended on it. If you leave them alone you're behind.

Oh, I did manage to beat an A- Korean Terran. I beat his cheese

Brag replay: http://dl.getdropbox.com/u/4422/replays/notables/0909 worldfamouT VALStRyKeZ.rep
His rank: http://www.iccup.com/gamingprofile/worldfamous.html

Keep Going?
I don't know if it's worth my time to try anymore. The cutoff for top 32 in VAL is going to be like mid B+. If my win rate stays the same I'll barely get B+ by the end of the week. TT People are trying so hard :O Should I give up?

***
Ars longa, vita brevis, principia aeturna.
Crunchums
Profile Blog Joined December 2008
United States11143 Posts
May 05 2009 09:06 GMT
#2
Yes, give up.
brood war for life, brood war forever
ffswowsucks
Profile Blog Joined August 2005
Greece2294 Posts
May 05 2009 09:07 GMT
#3
Thanx for posting some reps if u could post more it would be gReAT! :D
Terran in particular is a notoriously strong race for a no brain skillhand bot style.
FirstBorn
Profile Blog Joined March 2007
Romania3955 Posts
May 05 2009 09:13 GMT
#4
Greatz man. And no, don't give up, it's more fun that way
SonuvBob: Yes, the majority of TL is college-aged, and thus clearly stupid.
omninmo
Profile Blog Joined April 2008
2349 Posts
May 05 2009 09:15 GMT
#5
hell yea keep going man. you are #35 right now. what have you got to lose
jhNz
Profile Blog Joined September 2006
Germany2762 Posts
May 05 2009 09:18 GMT
#6
don't give up! even if you shouldn't make it, you wont have to say that you haven't at least tried. you can do it.
http://twitter.com/jhNz
Exteray
Profile Blog Joined June 2007
United States1094 Posts
May 05 2009 09:23 GMT
#7
aren't u on MIT's CSL team?
RushWifDietCoke
Profile Joined May 2008
United States488 Posts
May 05 2009 09:59 GMT
#8
Thanks for the cool replays, I'm about to check some out now...

Don't give up though, who knows what it could lead to. You have played hard up to this point and if it doesn't work out at least you can say you gave it your best shot. That feeling of hopelessness you talked about, it's all in your head. You should make THEM feel hopeless and sorry that they even have to play you. It's getting harder but that's only expected so you'll just have to train even harder now. I'm sure you didn't plan on stopping at B rank when you first entered?

Either way good luck and thanks for the replays!
Nothing to it but to do it.
foeffa
Profile Blog Joined August 2007
Belgium2115 Posts
May 05 2009 12:02 GMT
#9
Hang in there. ^_^ Tx for the reps. :D
觀過斯知仁矣.
kiendudu
Profile Joined May 2008
Netherlands273 Posts
May 05 2009 12:20 GMT
#10
you are alraedy give your best, don't be sad if you are out,
don't give up
^^
Chill
Profile Blog Joined January 2005
Calgary25977 Posts
May 05 2009 12:46 GMT
#11
Awesome blog! Keep us updated. I like reading stuff like this because I go through the same thought process when I'm getting destroyed at B-.

Thanks for the replays.
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]343[
Profile Blog Joined May 2008
United States10328 Posts
May 05 2009 13:19 GMT
#12
gogo stryker!
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EsX_Raptor
Profile Blog Joined February 2008
United States2801 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-05-05 14:35:15
May 05 2009 14:09 GMT
#13
Damn.

I've always seen you, StRyKeR, as one of those extremely powerful Zergs which could own pretty much anybody I know.

But then I hear you saying that there are seemingly untouchable players at the B ranks? Makes me wonder what A/A+/oOoOo players play like

:S

edit: ez dl for the lazy (like me)

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selboN
Profile Blog Joined January 2008
United States2523 Posts
May 05 2009 14:32 GMT
#14
Don't give up!
"That's what happens when you're using a mouse made out of glass!" -Tasteless (Referring to ZergBong)
littlechava
Profile Blog Joined March 2004
United States7218 Posts
May 05 2009 14:36 GMT
#15
don't give up but start playing all mus !
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