EPT"Easy/Hard Majors" - Page 4
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Bill307
Canada9103 Posts
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Bill307
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QuanticHawk
United States32110 Posts
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Osmoses
Sweden5302 Posts
Edit: I'm a CS major, it was ez mode, don't let anyone tell you differently, just try to keep it quiet so it doesn't lose its prestige. | ||
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Slaughter
United States20254 Posts
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Slaughter
United States20254 Posts
On May 01 2009 12:07 Osmoses wrote: It's important to remember that when you're talking worth of degrees, the best one is the one that gets the highest raised eyebrows. If you say you have a degree in art, you get a pretty insignificant one, almost as if to condescend you, if you say computer science, you get a better result, maybe along with a slightly impressed nod. If you say biochemistry or physics, you're fucking awesome, as the eyebrows will tell you. Edit: I'm a CS major, it was ez mode, don't let anyone tell you differently, just try to keep it quiet so it doesn't lose its prestige. I guess my major is awesome then, people seem to be impressed that im in forensic science XD | ||
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Pseudo_Utopia
Canada827 Posts
How about if there was a degree in "learning by heart one billion decimals of pi"? That'd be hard ass shit, I'd admire you if you did that! Seriously though, how hard you work is overrated compared to how happy you are. I'd rather have happy friends than hard-working ones anyday. Sure, it makes you impressive, I guess. But if you did the degree mostly because it's impressive, that's not impressive, it's pathetic and insecure. | ||
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Hypnosis
United States2061 Posts
On May 01 2009 07:56 micronesia wrote: When my physics major was difficult, it wasn't because of memorization lol... Physics is hard because it encompasses so many different things, its like its own language and they words are interchangable! | ||
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gLyo
United States2410 Posts
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HeavOnEarth
United States7087 Posts
On May 01 2009 12:35 Pseudo_Utopia wrote: So basically the value of your degree is how hard it was? How about if there was a degree in "learning by heart one billion decimals of pi"? That'd be hard ass shit, I'd admire you if you did that! Seriously though, how hard you work is overrated compared to how happy you are. I'd rather have happy friends than hard-working ones anyday. Sure, it makes you impressive, I guess. But if you did the degree mostly because it's impressive, that's not impressive, it's pathetic and insecure. absolutely no one is arguing this taking personal offense, and trying to lash back? because THAT would be pathetic and insecure. | ||
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HeavOnEarth
United States7087 Posts
They just took an easier path to get to law school, which might make them smarter if you think about it. QFT, i think. | ||
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Pseudo_Utopia
Canada827 Posts
On May 01 2009 14:43 HeavOnEarth wrote: absolutely no one is arguing this taking personal offense, and trying to lash back? because THAT would be pathetic and insecure. Heh, read the whole thread man. On the other hand, I should have quoted Osmoses, as I was responding to him. I figured I was close enough below him. Here's what I was answering: On May 01 2009 12:07 Osmoses wrote: It's important to remember that when you're talking worth of degrees, the best one is the one that gets the highest raised eyebrows. If you say you have a degree in art, you get a pretty insignificant one, almost as if to condescend you, if you say computer science, you get a better result, maybe along with a slightly impressed nod. If you say biochemistry or physics, you're fucking awesome, as the eyebrows will tell you. Edit: I'm a CS major, it was ez mode, don't let anyone tell you differently, just try to keep it quiet so it doesn't lose its prestige. | ||
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fight_or_flight
United States3988 Posts
When I walked into the cs computer lab at any time during the last 1/3rd of the quarter there were groups of people working at all hours. Physics was another area of pain. Just to solve the classical mechanics homework we had to band together and work late....just to get answers might be correct. | ||
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fight_or_flight
United States3988 Posts
In the grand scheme of things however, I think that science fields are actually easier than other fields, for precisely the reason that makes them harder academically. That is, you have no objective source telling you whether you are right or wrong, yet there is only one objective truth. Truth can fall into 4 categories: evident and provable, not evident and provable, evident but not provable, and not evident and not provable. Scientific truths are provable. The arts are not provable. The reason science seems harder is because it forces an individual to come to terms with truth itself through experiments. People are so biased, however, that it can be nearly impossible for them to accept truth, even when it is evident. What I'm saying is that unless truth is forced upon people there is very very little chance they will actually find and accept it. Thats why theology isn't usually taught at universities, because there is so little that forces people to come to a correct conclusion that it cannot even be discussed. Political science or sociology on the other hand at least has polls and statistics that forces at least some amount of truth on people (numbers are objective and true). However we know how religion threads turn out, and indeed it is the "hardest" field there is. | ||
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Xeris
Iran17695 Posts
Majoring in political science, I want to become a political scientist (who woulda thought). What I am arguing is that political science is not 'easier' than something like bio. Look at a top scholar in comparative politics and the amount of research he does writing his books and compare that to the amount of work some great microbiologist does... the amount of work, probable income, and prestige these people get is going to be essentially the same. So sure, maybe the poli sci guy had to work less to get his undergrad degree, but it doesn't mean his shit is easier than bio shit. | ||
Carnivorous Sheep
Baa?21244 Posts
On May 01 2009 16:08 Xeris wrote: the amount of work, probable income, and prestige these people get is going to be essentially the same. It's not gonna be the same. Also differentiate between "amount of work" and "quality of work." I can "work" for 18 hours a day sitting in front of my computer without actually producing anything. And there's the fact that somet hings are just -easier- to do than others, so despite consuming the same amount of time, less effort is needed to, say, read something than to monitor multiple experiments at once with exact timetables you need to follow. | ||
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fight_or_flight
United States3988 Posts
On May 01 2009 16:08 Xeris wrote: Again I'm referring to something different, for me school is not just about the grades you get and the random degree that comes from it, your major is something that should be guiding your career. MOST people major in something that they want to eventually have a career in. Majoring in political science, I want to become a political scientist (who woulda thought). What I am arguing is that political science is not 'easier' than something like bio. Look at a top scholar in comparative politics and the amount of research he does writing his books and compare that to the amount of work some great microbiologist does... the amount of work, probable income, and prestige these people get is going to be essentially the same. So sure, maybe the poli sci guy had to work less to get his undergrad degree, but it doesn't mean his shit is easier than bio shit. to be fair you should look at averages, not the top edit: actually, isn't this thread about majors? | ||
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Slithe
United States985 Posts
Also, anyone aiming to do something meaningful with their major will never do just the bare minimum. On May 01 2009 15:29 fight_or_flight wrote: I think a lot of engineering/physics/cs majors are just bitter because to do well it consumes their lives. I agree with this. Bitterness seems to run deep in this thread. | ||
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Klockan3
Sweden2866 Posts
On May 01 2009 16:08 Xeris wrote: So sure, maybe the poli sci guy had to work less to get his undergrad degree, but it doesn't mean his shit is easier than bio shit. It doesn't mean that it isn't easier either. I bet that most on these boards can't even understand a physics paper, even if you got a physics bachelor, and this is just the abstract, and then the hard sciences is not just about being able to understand and write things like this, it is also about being able to come up with models to why this works like it does based on previous knowledge, figuring out which experiments are actually relevant to do and so. The bachelor is the basics everyone have to learn. Then when you do your phd you take as much time again to learn what your field is really about. And not even the physics professor next door would be able to understand this paper fully unless he have been working on the exact same subject before. I know a guy who is just about done with his phd in physics, it took him months to actually understand the paper he was basing his work on. Now I do not say that all of this means that physics is harder, just that in every quantitative way it is. Field dependent electroluminescence from amorphous Si/SiNx multilayer structure We report field dependent electroluminescence (EL) from as-deposited amorphous Si/SiNx multilayer structure, where a-Si well layer thickness ranges from 1 to 4 nm, while SiNx barrier layer thickness is fixed at 3 nm. When the sample is applied by a low forward voltage Vbias (<6 V, i.e., 2.5 MV/cm), the dominant peak of EL is located at the lower energy region from 740 nm shifted to 660 nm with reducing the thickness of the a-Si well layer from 4 to 1 nm. However, under a high applied Vbias(>6 V), another EL band at the higher energy region is observed to be peaked at about 530 nm, which is independent of the well layer thickness. Photoluminescence (PL) investigation performed under optically pumped by the 325 nm line and the 488 nm line, respectively, also demonstrates the pump energy dependence of PL peaks. We interpreted these interesting phenomena of electrical and optical pump energy dependence of light emission by using different luminescence mechanisms in the a-Si/SiNx multilayer structure. ©2009 American Institute of Physics http://scitation.aip.org/getabs/servlet/GetabsServlet?prog=normal&id=APPLAB000094000016161101000001&idtype=cvips&gifs=Yes | ||
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United States5770 Posts
I'm an animation major and when people hear that I do art for my college work they act like it's so easy. I spend hours upon hours every day working on my projects, and it's wayyyyyy harder than any of the stupid memorization classes i'm forced to take for requirements (science classes, history classes, etc). Memorization is easy shit that a braindead person can do. It doesn't take any thinking, only repetition. Using creativity to make art that takes many hours is way more difficult. | ||
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