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Osmoses
Sweden5302 Posts
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Grobyc
Canada18410 Posts
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Etherone
United States1898 Posts
and as terrifyingly depressing as our existence can be, it is only so because of our jaded perspective on happiness. how horrifying is someone dieing really? not all until you ponder the possibility of loss, the implications of you or anyone else you love not having this precious thing called life anymore. it is a wonderful gift and made all the better in the hands of loving parents. adoption is an option as well. my 2 cents | ||
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Demoninja
United States1190 Posts
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Caller
Poland8075 Posts
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Swarmy
Canada70 Posts
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Jibba
United States22883 Posts
On April 17 2009 14:10 Grobyc wrote: How is adoption a good idea then? I believe you just contradicted yourself. + Show Spoiler + I would definately say adoption is a good idea here. + Show Spoiler + i've a friend that suffers from it, and it seems to be a very unpleasant condition. Dont force a child to suffer from that, especially in early childhood. + Show Spoiler + So giving him up for adoption suddenly makes the condition disappear or something? That is a huge swing and a miss. D: I had to re-read it 4 times to figure out what you were saying. If Inky were still here, he'd love me, but I think adoption is a good idea. I know there's something about having a kid that looks like you, but people are developed through socialization so they will be yours no matter what. There's also plenty of moral reasons to adopt, such as overpopulation, etc. Is it really 80%? That's extremely high. :o I've got an auto-immune condition, but I've been told it's not hereditary. | ||
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Archon_Wing
United States378 Posts
Fuck no, I'd go for adoption. I actually do have this condition now and then and wouldn't wish it upon my worst enemy. You'd think it'd be crazy to want to kill yourself over an itch that never goes away as it gets infected for the 86437634890634th time and the best any fucktard without medical knowledge say is don't scratch. (Gee I'm fucking serious, like I can really help it when IM ALREADY FUCKING UNCONCIOUS and involuntarily doing it) but yea it could be really bad. God, even the doctors were fucktards at times. Yea, of course I made it worse, but I was a dumbass little kid after all. It took a while before finding a doctor that wasn't a complete dumbass and let me get through this shit so I can give a giant fuck you those other asshole shits. And it sometimes still comes back to say hello. Hell, I'm fucking putting the oinment on just I was reading this thread lol. So yea, I'm pretty biased and used a bit of hyperbole but it is quite bad.  Then again, the treatments are getting far better. They don't even use steroid shit anymore http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Protopic (At least, that's what they tell me, if I end up dying from this, at least it won't be itchy :D) Of course, every drug has its side effects but by the time you may have kids this may not become an issue with advances in medicine. Then again, a child has no choice with these things, and you may not want a child to deal with them. Good thread, btw. This is an issue that I will have to deal with. | ||
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iNcontroL
USA29055 Posts
They cannot take a god damn dna test from fetus and determine if it will have this affliction. So aborting the babies would be a fucking dice roll each time and there would be absolutely NO factors that could ever indicate one way or the other except that lil moral voice in the back of your head screaming "YOU ARE A EVIL, SADISTIC LIL TWISTED FUCK WHO IS SO STUPID HE SHOULDN'T BE ALLOWED TO MAKE DECISIONS." What the fuck is wrong with you? I mean, I understand people that favor abortion.. but literally offering someone the advice of getting upwards of 5 abortions to avoid a non life threatening disease? What the FUCK? | ||
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T.O.P.
Hong Kong4685 Posts
On April 17 2009 14:09 crabsman wrote: Haha thats funny. You know that humans all share the same genes right? The chances of you having any unique genes that are ONLY unique to your family is ridiculously small. Then you also have to factor in the fact that you may not pass on your unique genes too your children. Your reasoning for not wanting adoption is really not a good one The fact that you value your genes so much that instead of giving a child a loving home just because you want your genes too be passed on makes think that you might have a superiority complex or that you think your special. Trust me, there is probably nothing special or unique about you at all and this is not a bad thing or a good thing, its just the truth. It's called natural selection. If the op passes down his genes, he would be considered successful by Darwinian standards. He also needs to make sure his offspring will get a chance to mate and pass down his genes too, that's why he's concerned about his gf's genetic disease. | ||
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nataziel
Australia1455 Posts
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SaveYourSavior
United States1071 Posts
I know people with Eczema and it's a very annoying disease that makes you itch very often and some rash breakouts but it isn't something as killer as AIDS or even Huntington's Disease. There's treatments for this stuff although many of the people I know are otherwise completely normal and mainly just scratch themselves more often than other people Although since your gf seems to have a worse case of Eczema than most, your children most likely will just have to take treatment. It's definitely not a life-ruiner, not like being born with Down Syndrome and such | ||
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Etherone
United States1898 Posts
On April 17 2009 14:48 {88}iNcontroL wrote: evanthebouncy you are fucking retarded anyways. They cannot take a god damn dna test from fetus and determine if it will have this affliction. So aborting the babies would be a fucking dice roll each time and there would be absolutely NO factors that could ever indicate one way or the other except that lil moral voice in the back of your head screaming "YOU ARE A EVIL, SADISTIC LIL TWISTED FUCK WHO IS SO STUPID HE SHOULDN'T BE ALLOWED TO MAKE DECISIONS." What the fuck is wrong with you? I mean, I understand people that favor abortion.. but literally offering someone the advice of getting upwards of 5 abortions to avoid a non life threatening disease? What the FUCK? Calm down, i am sure he was being sarcastic. or he is very uninformed as to the risks of an abortion, and is a sociopath. | ||
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iNcontroL
USA29055 Posts
I just have this scary feeling that he is the latter as oppose to the former. | ||
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SpiritoftheTunA
United States20903 Posts
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seppolevne
Canada1681 Posts
On April 17 2009 14:48 {88}iNcontroL wrote: evanthebouncy you are fucking retarded anyways. They cannot take a god damn dna test from fetus and determine if it will have this affliction. So aborting the babies would be a fucking dice roll each time and there would be absolutely NO factors that could ever indicate one way or the other except that lil moral voice in the back of your head screaming "YOU ARE A EVIL, SADISTIC LIL TWISTED FUCK WHO IS SO STUPID HE SHOULDN'T BE ALLOWED TO MAKE DECISIONS." What the fuck is wrong with you? I mean, I understand people that favor abortion.. but literally offering someone the advice of getting upwards of 5 abortions to avoid a non life threatening disease? What the FUCK? If its hereditary, wouldn't a genetic screen tell you exactly that? "Oh hey here is the genetic mutation, its got it" not including environmental factors / silencing etc. | ||
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SonuvBob
Aiur21552 Posts
To get the disease, both of your copies of the gene need to be the disease version (remember, we have two copies of most of our genes—one from mom and one from dad). When more than one gene is involved, the situation gets much more complicated pretty quickly. You now need to get the disease version of many genes from both parents. And they are not always the same genes—different gene combinations can lead to the same disease, eczema. This is one of the reasons a genetic test for eczema isn't coming out anytime soon. | ||
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fight_or_flight
United States3988 Posts
On April 17 2009 14:00 Wuewdoodoo wrote: Exactly. Treat her as human or treat her as property? Gonna have to agree here. Ask her if she would have preferred not to have been born or if she would have preferred that her parents were not her biological parents. I think if you are worried what conditions your child would have, these are the questions to ask. Don't try to become a eugenicist because people don't understand it well enough to do more good than harm, in my opinion. A condition like this is but one aspect of your gf's genes. I'm sure she probably has other qualities that offset it, even if you are not aware of them. She may even have better qualities than normal. It is a difficult question, so you should just think consider the question I quoted. | ||
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ziziyo2
United States11 Posts
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KlaCkoN
Sweden1661 Posts
But seriously willingly having a sick child is just wrong. Passing on defect genes if you so like. There are way too many people on the planet as it is, adoption is a great alternative in general for enviromental reasons but when you as an extra _can't even have a healthy child of your own_ then it becomes the only choice imo. | ||
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