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On March 19 2009 12:19 IdrA wrote:Show nested quote +On March 19 2009 12:15 Nytefish wrote:On March 19 2009 12:14 IdrA wrote:On March 19 2009 12:11 Nytefish wrote:
Just don't attach so much meaning to gg. No one's going to say "loool he said gg that proves i pwned him!!!". But they wil say "omg no gg BM!!" wouldnt it be the people bitching about not saying gg who are attaching undue amounts of meaning to it then? Yes I'm not saying people who don't gg deserve to be bitched at, just that it's a nice gesture which doesn't cost much. Like how you shake hands or say thanks in other sports, just because it's a computer game doesn't mean you aren't competing against humans. well if its a nice gesture then there has to be meaning behind it. if there were no meaning it would be.. a meaningless gesture
I didn't say there was no meaning, just you don't have to look too deeply. It should just be like other sports: "thanks for the game". After all without opponents there's no game to play.
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On March 19 2009 12:21 StRyKeR wrote:Show nested quote +On March 19 2009 12:14 IdrA wrote:On March 19 2009 12:11 Nytefish wrote:
Just don't attach so much meaning to gg. No one's going to say "loool he said gg that proves i pwned him!!!". But they wil say "omg no gg BM!!" wouldnt it be the people bitching about not saying gg who are attaching undue amounts of meaning to it then? and i was just arguing about it from the respect thing because thats the most common justification i see for it so you don't say gg when you think the other player played a gamble strategy that basically relied on one fault in your strategy well, are you ever really sure that happened, Idra? I'd be sure, but AFTER watching the replay. Often times, the other player is playing as legitimately as he knows how, practicing a lot, getting feedback, preparing it. Especially in this case, I felt bad-manner from Handy because I was trying my hardest to win in a way I knew how, not thinking of doing an all-in strategy and "getting away" with a win. Is there no benefit of the doubt in Handy's mind, or is it just an assumption to assume that he'd been had? Sometimes they go out of their way to LOOK for your weaknesses -- is respect really undeserved in that case? Me analyzing your replays and finding a weakness and making a risky bo to counter it?
this is all theoretical, when i dont gg its cuz im pissed i lost
however i still believe what i said and that the requirement of saying gg is retarded.
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On March 19 2009 12:19 IdrA wrote:Show nested quote +On March 19 2009 12:15 Nytefish wrote:On March 19 2009 12:14 IdrA wrote:On March 19 2009 12:11 Nytefish wrote:
Just don't attach so much meaning to gg. No one's going to say "loool he said gg that proves i pwned him!!!". But they wil say "omg no gg BM!!" wouldnt it be the people bitching about not saying gg who are attaching undue amounts of meaning to it then? Yes I'm not saying people who don't gg deserve to be bitched at, just that it's a nice gesture which doesn't cost much. Like how you shake hands or say thanks in other sports, just because it's a computer game doesn't mean you aren't competing against humans. well if its a nice gesture then there has to be meaning behind it. if there were no meaning it would be.. a meaningless gesture
it's a gesture that says "i know the societal norms and i'm willing to give up some space i have inside to let you know that we're cool"
kind of like a handshake
would you not give me a handshake?
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On March 19 2009 12:21 StRyKeR wrote:Show nested quote +On March 19 2009 12:14 IdrA wrote:On March 19 2009 12:11 Nytefish wrote:
Just don't attach so much meaning to gg. No one's going to say "loool he said gg that proves i pwned him!!!". But they wil say "omg no gg BM!!" wouldnt it be the people bitching about not saying gg who are attaching undue amounts of meaning to it then? and i was just arguing about it from the respect thing because thats the most common justification i see for it so you don't say gg when you think the other player played a gamble strategy that basically relied on one fault in your strategy well, are you ever really sure that happened, Idra? I'd be sure, but AFTER watching the replay. Often times, the other player is playing as legitimately as he knows how, practicing a lot, getting feedback, preparing it. Especially in this case, I felt bad-manner from Handy because I was trying my hardest to win in a way I knew how, not thinking of doing an all-in strategy and "getting away" with a win. Is there no benefit of the doubt in Handy's mind, or is it just an assumption to assume that he'd been had? Sometimes they go out of their way to LOOK for your weaknesses -- is respect really undeserved in that case? Me analyzing your replays and finding a weakness and making a risky bo to counter it?
thats ENTIRELY diff. ptak doesnt look at idra's style and say, hmm a lotof speedlings would win...
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On March 19 2009 12:23 IdrA wrote:Show nested quote +On March 19 2009 12:21 StRyKeR wrote:On March 19 2009 12:14 IdrA wrote:On March 19 2009 12:11 Nytefish wrote:
Just don't attach so much meaning to gg. No one's going to say "loool he said gg that proves i pwned him!!!". But they wil say "omg no gg BM!!" wouldnt it be the people bitching about not saying gg who are attaching undue amounts of meaning to it then? and i was just arguing about it from the respect thing because thats the most common justification i see for it so you don't say gg when you think the other player played a gamble strategy that basically relied on one fault in your strategy well, are you ever really sure that happened, Idra? I'd be sure, but AFTER watching the replay. Often times, the other player is playing as legitimately as he knows how, practicing a lot, getting feedback, preparing it. Especially in this case, I felt bad-manner from Handy because I was trying my hardest to win in a way I knew how, not thinking of doing an all-in strategy and "getting away" with a win. Is there no benefit of the doubt in Handy's mind, or is it just an assumption to assume that he'd been had? Sometimes they go out of their way to LOOK for your weaknesses -- is respect really undeserved in that case? Me analyzing your replays and finding a weakness and making a risky bo to counter it? this is all theoretical, when i dont gg its cuz im pissed i lost however i still believe what i said and that the requirement of saying gg is retarded.
there's no requirement, but you shouldn't retaliate once you get flamed for 9 pages because you signed up for it. if you believe in not saying gg some games, you don't need to explain yourself, but you have to deal with what's a-coming
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On March 19 2009 12:24 ramen247 wrote:Show nested quote +On March 19 2009 12:21 StRyKeR wrote:On March 19 2009 12:14 IdrA wrote:On March 19 2009 12:11 Nytefish wrote:
Just don't attach so much meaning to gg. No one's going to say "loool he said gg that proves i pwned him!!!". But they wil say "omg no gg BM!!" wouldnt it be the people bitching about not saying gg who are attaching undue amounts of meaning to it then? and i was just arguing about it from the respect thing because thats the most common justification i see for it so you don't say gg when you think the other player played a gamble strategy that basically relied on one fault in your strategy well, are you ever really sure that happened, Idra? I'd be sure, but AFTER watching the replay. Often times, the other player is playing as legitimately as he knows how, practicing a lot, getting feedback, preparing it. Especially in this case, I felt bad-manner from Handy because I was trying my hardest to win in a way I knew how, not thinking of doing an all-in strategy and "getting away" with a win. Is there no benefit of the doubt in Handy's mind, or is it just an assumption to assume that he'd been had? Sometimes they go out of their way to LOOK for your weaknesses -- is respect really undeserved in that case? Me analyzing your replays and finding a weakness and making a risky bo to counter it? thats ENTIRELY diff. ptak doesnt look at idra's style and say, hmm a lotof speedlings would win...
how do you know that
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On March 19 2009 12:23 Nytefish wrote:Show nested quote +On March 19 2009 12:19 IdrA wrote:On March 19 2009 12:15 Nytefish wrote:On March 19 2009 12:14 IdrA wrote:On March 19 2009 12:11 Nytefish wrote:
Just don't attach so much meaning to gg. No one's going to say "loool he said gg that proves i pwned him!!!". But they wil say "omg no gg BM!!" wouldnt it be the people bitching about not saying gg who are attaching undue amounts of meaning to it then? Yes I'm not saying people who don't gg deserve to be bitched at, just that it's a nice gesture which doesn't cost much. Like how you shake hands or say thanks in other sports, just because it's a computer game doesn't mean you aren't competing against humans. well if its a nice gesture then there has to be meaning behind it. if there were no meaning it would be.. a meaningless gesture I didn't say there was no meaning, just you don't have to look too deeply. It should just be like other sports: "thanks for the game". After all without opponents there's no game to play.
?
-_-
thanking someone for playing a game?
if they werent enjoying it themselves, or getting something out of it, they would not be playing. theres no need to thank them.
twist it around all you want but i can see no rational justification except for that its a sign of respect, in which case i still hold that there should be nothing wrong with not saying gg because you may very well feel that your opponent deserves no respect for the way they played. in fact it cant be mandatory because it would not signify respect if you _had_ to say it
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On March 19 2009 12:24 StRyKeR wrote:Show nested quote +On March 19 2009 12:23 IdrA wrote:On March 19 2009 12:21 StRyKeR wrote:On March 19 2009 12:14 IdrA wrote:On March 19 2009 12:11 Nytefish wrote:
Just don't attach so much meaning to gg. No one's going to say "loool he said gg that proves i pwned him!!!". But they wil say "omg no gg BM!!" wouldnt it be the people bitching about not saying gg who are attaching undue amounts of meaning to it then? and i was just arguing about it from the respect thing because thats the most common justification i see for it so you don't say gg when you think the other player played a gamble strategy that basically relied on one fault in your strategy well, are you ever really sure that happened, Idra? I'd be sure, but AFTER watching the replay. Often times, the other player is playing as legitimately as he knows how, practicing a lot, getting feedback, preparing it. Especially in this case, I felt bad-manner from Handy because I was trying my hardest to win in a way I knew how, not thinking of doing an all-in strategy and "getting away" with a win. Is there no benefit of the doubt in Handy's mind, or is it just an assumption to assume that he'd been had? Sometimes they go out of their way to LOOK for your weaknesses -- is respect really undeserved in that case? Me analyzing your replays and finding a weakness and making a risky bo to counter it? this is all theoretical, when i dont gg its cuz im pissed i lost however i still believe what i said and that the requirement of saying gg is retarded. there's no requirement, but you shouldn't retaliate once you get flamed for 9 pages because you signed up for it. if you believe in not saying gg some games, you don't need to explain yourself, but you have to deal with what's a-coming
actually in explaining myself i intend to prove the point that you shouldnt need to say gg, and if thats the case then there would be no reason to be flamed for 9 pages.
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On March 19 2009 12:26 IdrA wrote:Show nested quote +On March 19 2009 12:23 Nytefish wrote:On March 19 2009 12:19 IdrA wrote:On March 19 2009 12:15 Nytefish wrote:On March 19 2009 12:14 IdrA wrote:On March 19 2009 12:11 Nytefish wrote:
Just don't attach so much meaning to gg. No one's going to say "loool he said gg that proves i pwned him!!!". But they wil say "omg no gg BM!!" wouldnt it be the people bitching about not saying gg who are attaching undue amounts of meaning to it then? Yes I'm not saying people who don't gg deserve to be bitched at, just that it's a nice gesture which doesn't cost much. Like how you shake hands or say thanks in other sports, just because it's a computer game doesn't mean you aren't competing against humans. well if its a nice gesture then there has to be meaning behind it. if there were no meaning it would be.. a meaningless gesture I didn't say there was no meaning, just you don't have to look too deeply. It should just be like other sports: "thanks for the game". After all without opponents there's no game to play. ? -_- thanking someone for playing a game? if they werent enjoying it themselves, or getting something out of it, they would not be playing. theres no need to thank them. twist it around all you want but i can see no rational justification except for that its a sign of respect, in which case i still hold that there should be nothing wrong with not saying gg because you may very well feel that your opponent deserves no respect for the way they played. in fact it cant be mandatory because it would not signify respect if you _had_ to say it
actually, I just realized that people seem to resent a no gg because it's very passive aggressive
it's like "I hate your face but I'm not gonna say it, I'm gonna leave it up to you to wonder whether I meant it or I just forgot because I was stressed. I FUCKING HATE YOUR FACE but I'll be coy about it you douchebag"
I think if you say "I don't respect your game style" and leave, that's like totally respectworthy of a comment
if you ended your games with that I'll start following you really closely
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On March 19 2009 12:23 StRyKeR wrote:Show nested quote +On March 19 2009 12:19 IdrA wrote:On March 19 2009 12:15 Nytefish wrote:On March 19 2009 12:14 IdrA wrote:On March 19 2009 12:11 Nytefish wrote:
Just don't attach so much meaning to gg. No one's going to say "loool he said gg that proves i pwned him!!!". But they wil say "omg no gg BM!!" wouldnt it be the people bitching about not saying gg who are attaching undue amounts of meaning to it then? Yes I'm not saying people who don't gg deserve to be bitched at, just that it's a nice gesture which doesn't cost much. Like how you shake hands or say thanks in other sports, just because it's a computer game doesn't mean you aren't competing against humans. well if its a nice gesture then there has to be meaning behind it. if there were no meaning it would be.. a meaningless gesture it's a gesture that says "i know the societal norms and i'm willing to give up some space i have inside to let you know that we're cool" kind of like a handshake would you not give me a handshake?
thats fine, im just saying the societal norms are questionable
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On March 19 2009 12:27 IdrA wrote:Show nested quote +On March 19 2009 12:24 StRyKeR wrote:On March 19 2009 12:23 IdrA wrote:On March 19 2009 12:21 StRyKeR wrote:On March 19 2009 12:14 IdrA wrote:On March 19 2009 12:11 Nytefish wrote:
Just don't attach so much meaning to gg. No one's going to say "loool he said gg that proves i pwned him!!!". But they wil say "omg no gg BM!!" wouldnt it be the people bitching about not saying gg who are attaching undue amounts of meaning to it then? and i was just arguing about it from the respect thing because thats the most common justification i see for it so you don't say gg when you think the other player played a gamble strategy that basically relied on one fault in your strategy well, are you ever really sure that happened, Idra? I'd be sure, but AFTER watching the replay. Often times, the other player is playing as legitimately as he knows how, practicing a lot, getting feedback, preparing it. Especially in this case, I felt bad-manner from Handy because I was trying my hardest to win in a way I knew how, not thinking of doing an all-in strategy and "getting away" with a win. Is there no benefit of the doubt in Handy's mind, or is it just an assumption to assume that he'd been had? Sometimes they go out of their way to LOOK for your weaknesses -- is respect really undeserved in that case? Me analyzing your replays and finding a weakness and making a risky bo to counter it? this is all theoretical, when i dont gg its cuz im pissed i lost however i still believe what i said and that the requirement of saying gg is retarded. there's no requirement, but you shouldn't retaliate once you get flamed for 9 pages because you signed up for it. if you believe in not saying gg some games, you don't need to explain yourself, but you have to deal with what's a-coming actually in explaining myself i intend to prove the point that you shouldnt need to say gg, and if thats the case then there would be no reason to be flamed for 9 pages.
someone once said to me it's easier to change yourself than change the world
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On March 19 2009 12:28 StRyKeR wrote:Show nested quote +On March 19 2009 12:26 IdrA wrote:On March 19 2009 12:23 Nytefish wrote:On March 19 2009 12:19 IdrA wrote:On March 19 2009 12:15 Nytefish wrote:On March 19 2009 12:14 IdrA wrote:On March 19 2009 12:11 Nytefish wrote:
Just don't attach so much meaning to gg. No one's going to say "loool he said gg that proves i pwned him!!!". But they wil say "omg no gg BM!!" wouldnt it be the people bitching about not saying gg who are attaching undue amounts of meaning to it then? Yes I'm not saying people who don't gg deserve to be bitched at, just that it's a nice gesture which doesn't cost much. Like how you shake hands or say thanks in other sports, just because it's a computer game doesn't mean you aren't competing against humans. well if its a nice gesture then there has to be meaning behind it. if there were no meaning it would be.. a meaningless gesture I didn't say there was no meaning, just you don't have to look too deeply. It should just be like other sports: "thanks for the game". After all without opponents there's no game to play. ? -_- thanking someone for playing a game? if they werent enjoying it themselves, or getting something out of it, they would not be playing. theres no need to thank them. twist it around all you want but i can see no rational justification except for that its a sign of respect, in which case i still hold that there should be nothing wrong with not saying gg because you may very well feel that your opponent deserves no respect for the way they played. in fact it cant be mandatory because it would not signify respect if you _had_ to say it actually, I just realized that people seem to resent a no gg because it's very passive aggressive it's like "I hate your face but I'm not gonna say it, I'm gonna leave it up to you to wonder whether I meant it or I just forgot because I was stressed. I FUCKING HATE YOUR FACE but I'll be coy about it you douchebag" I think if you say "I don't respect your game style" and leave, that's like totally respectworthy if you ended your games with that I'll start following you really closely
pm me that before the next public match i could lose and i will
but i guarantee you that would generate a bigger shitstorm than not saying gg.
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On March 19 2009 12:28 StRyKeR wrote:Show nested quote +On March 19 2009 12:27 IdrA wrote:On March 19 2009 12:24 StRyKeR wrote:On March 19 2009 12:23 IdrA wrote:On March 19 2009 12:21 StRyKeR wrote:On March 19 2009 12:14 IdrA wrote:On March 19 2009 12:11 Nytefish wrote:
Just don't attach so much meaning to gg. No one's going to say "loool he said gg that proves i pwned him!!!". But they wil say "omg no gg BM!!" wouldnt it be the people bitching about not saying gg who are attaching undue amounts of meaning to it then? and i was just arguing about it from the respect thing because thats the most common justification i see for it so you don't say gg when you think the other player played a gamble strategy that basically relied on one fault in your strategy well, are you ever really sure that happened, Idra? I'd be sure, but AFTER watching the replay. Often times, the other player is playing as legitimately as he knows how, practicing a lot, getting feedback, preparing it. Especially in this case, I felt bad-manner from Handy because I was trying my hardest to win in a way I knew how, not thinking of doing an all-in strategy and "getting away" with a win. Is there no benefit of the doubt in Handy's mind, or is it just an assumption to assume that he'd been had? Sometimes they go out of their way to LOOK for your weaknesses -- is respect really undeserved in that case? Me analyzing your replays and finding a weakness and making a risky bo to counter it? this is all theoretical, when i dont gg its cuz im pissed i lost however i still believe what i said and that the requirement of saying gg is retarded. there's no requirement, but you shouldn't retaliate once you get flamed for 9 pages because you signed up for it. if you believe in not saying gg some games, you don't need to explain yourself, but you have to deal with what's a-coming actually in explaining myself i intend to prove the point that you shouldnt need to say gg, and if thats the case then there would be no reason to be flamed for 9 pages. someone once said to me it's easier to change yourself than change the world
thats the mentality of people who dont accomplish anything except making other people like them
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On March 19 2009 12:30 IdrA wrote:Show nested quote +On March 19 2009 12:28 StRyKeR wrote:On March 19 2009 12:26 IdrA wrote:On March 19 2009 12:23 Nytefish wrote:On March 19 2009 12:19 IdrA wrote:On March 19 2009 12:15 Nytefish wrote:On March 19 2009 12:14 IdrA wrote:On March 19 2009 12:11 Nytefish wrote:
Just don't attach so much meaning to gg. No one's going to say "loool he said gg that proves i pwned him!!!". But they wil say "omg no gg BM!!" wouldnt it be the people bitching about not saying gg who are attaching undue amounts of meaning to it then? Yes I'm not saying people who don't gg deserve to be bitched at, just that it's a nice gesture which doesn't cost much. Like how you shake hands or say thanks in other sports, just because it's a computer game doesn't mean you aren't competing against humans. well if its a nice gesture then there has to be meaning behind it. if there were no meaning it would be.. a meaningless gesture I didn't say there was no meaning, just you don't have to look too deeply. It should just be like other sports: "thanks for the game". After all without opponents there's no game to play. ? -_- thanking someone for playing a game? if they werent enjoying it themselves, or getting something out of it, they would not be playing. theres no need to thank them. twist it around all you want but i can see no rational justification except for that its a sign of respect, in which case i still hold that there should be nothing wrong with not saying gg because you may very well feel that your opponent deserves no respect for the way they played. in fact it cant be mandatory because it would not signify respect if you _had_ to say it actually, I just realized that people seem to resent a no gg because it's very passive aggressive it's like "I hate your face but I'm not gonna say it, I'm gonna leave it up to you to wonder whether I meant it or I just forgot because I was stressed. I FUCKING HATE YOUR FACE but I'll be coy about it you douchebag" I think if you say "I don't respect your game style" and leave, that's like totally respectworthy if you ended your games with that I'll start following you really closely pm me that before the next public match i could lose and i will but i guarantee you that would generate a bigger shitstorm than not saying gg.
lol, probably. I just have respect for people who are straightforward with what they're thinking, instead of having people guess what you're thinking. honest but straight.
it's one thing to know your image, it's another to acknowledge how your image appears to other people. i try to be more like this myself.
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On March 19 2009 12:30 IdrA wrote:Show nested quote +On March 19 2009 12:28 StRyKeR wrote:On March 19 2009 12:27 IdrA wrote:On March 19 2009 12:24 StRyKeR wrote:On March 19 2009 12:23 IdrA wrote:On March 19 2009 12:21 StRyKeR wrote:On March 19 2009 12:14 IdrA wrote:On March 19 2009 12:11 Nytefish wrote:
Just don't attach so much meaning to gg. No one's going to say "loool he said gg that proves i pwned him!!!". But they wil say "omg no gg BM!!" wouldnt it be the people bitching about not saying gg who are attaching undue amounts of meaning to it then? and i was just arguing about it from the respect thing because thats the most common justification i see for it so you don't say gg when you think the other player played a gamble strategy that basically relied on one fault in your strategy well, are you ever really sure that happened, Idra? I'd be sure, but AFTER watching the replay. Often times, the other player is playing as legitimately as he knows how, practicing a lot, getting feedback, preparing it. Especially in this case, I felt bad-manner from Handy because I was trying my hardest to win in a way I knew how, not thinking of doing an all-in strategy and "getting away" with a win. Is there no benefit of the doubt in Handy's mind, or is it just an assumption to assume that he'd been had? Sometimes they go out of their way to LOOK for your weaknesses -- is respect really undeserved in that case? Me analyzing your replays and finding a weakness and making a risky bo to counter it? this is all theoretical, when i dont gg its cuz im pissed i lost however i still believe what i said and that the requirement of saying gg is retarded. there's no requirement, but you shouldn't retaliate once you get flamed for 9 pages because you signed up for it. if you believe in not saying gg some games, you don't need to explain yourself, but you have to deal with what's a-coming actually in explaining myself i intend to prove the point that you shouldnt need to say gg, and if thats the case then there would be no reason to be flamed for 9 pages. someone once said to me it's easier to change yourself than change the world thats the mentality of people who dont accomplish anything except making other people like them
there's a good reason for getting along as long as it doesn't mean giving up your core values
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or you could be yourself and find people who appreciate that and enjoy your life
or the easier route
whichever
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On March 19 2009 12:26 IdrA wrote:Show nested quote +On March 19 2009 12:23 Nytefish wrote:On March 19 2009 12:19 IdrA wrote:On March 19 2009 12:15 Nytefish wrote:On March 19 2009 12:14 IdrA wrote:On March 19 2009 12:11 Nytefish wrote:
Just don't attach so much meaning to gg. No one's going to say "loool he said gg that proves i pwned him!!!". But they wil say "omg no gg BM!!" wouldnt it be the people bitching about not saying gg who are attaching undue amounts of meaning to it then? Yes I'm not saying people who don't gg deserve to be bitched at, just that it's a nice gesture which doesn't cost much. Like how you shake hands or say thanks in other sports, just because it's a computer game doesn't mean you aren't competing against humans. well if its a nice gesture then there has to be meaning behind it. if there were no meaning it would be.. a meaningless gesture I didn't say there was no meaning, just you don't have to look too deeply. It should just be like other sports: "thanks for the game". After all without opponents there's no game to play. ? -_- thanking someone for playing a game? if they werent enjoying it themselves, or getting something out of it, they would not be playing. theres no need to thank them. twist it around all you want but i can see no rational justification except for that its a sign of respect, in which case i still hold that there should be nothing wrong with not saying gg because you may very well feel that your opponent deserves no respect for the way they played. in fact it cant be mandatory because it would not signify respect if you _had_ to say it
It's not respect for how they played, it's simply respect for sitting down and playing. So what if they're enjoying themselves, doesn't meant you can't be grateful for competition.
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On March 19 2009 12:35 IdrA wrote:
or you could be yourself and find people who appreciate that and enjoy your life
or the easier route
whichever
unless you're desperately looking for a friend and therefore need to advertise your personality, there's not really a need to assert yourself in public if you have friends who will vouch for you in private
EDIT: although I can see how you would respond to this. this idiom vs idiom thing is getting too general
anyway, I hope I get to see you in progames sometime. I hope at least for our sake you say "gg" if you lose on TV so the foreign community doesn't get 900 pages of flame on fighterforum
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On March 19 2009 12:36 StRyKeR wrote:Show nested quote +On March 19 2009 12:35 IdrA wrote:
or you could be yourself and find people who appreciate that and enjoy your life
or the easier route
whichever unless you're desperately looking for a friend and therefore need to advertise your personality, there's not really a need to assert yourself in public if you have friends who will vouch for you in private EDIT: although I can see how you would respond to this. this idiom vs idiom thing is getting too general anyway, I hope I get to see you in progames sometime. I hope at least for our sake you say "gg" if you lose on TV so the foreign community doesn't get 900 pages of flame on fighterforum
they have to gg or the team loses points iirc
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On March 19 2009 12:41 arb wrote:Show nested quote +On March 19 2009 12:36 StRyKeR wrote:On March 19 2009 12:35 IdrA wrote:
or you could be yourself and find people who appreciate that and enjoy your life
or the easier route
whichever unless you're desperately looking for a friend and therefore need to advertise your personality, there's not really a need to assert yourself in public if you have friends who will vouch for you in private EDIT: although I can see how you would respond to this. this idiom vs idiom thing is getting too general anyway, I hope I get to see you in progames sometime. I hope at least for our sake you say "gg" if you lose on TV so the foreign community doesn't get 900 pages of flame on fighterforum they have to gg or the team loses points iirc
then what happened to backho when he pre-emptively zz'ed? or does it not count cuz he said zz
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