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Raithed
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
China7078 Posts
February 26 2009 03:36 GMT
#1
A few days ago, aprox. two weeks ago my dad got a ticket for an improper passing(he passed a truck where the truck was turning right on a LEFT ONLY lane but my dad was going left anyway; he crossed a double yellow lane), and today we got a fuckton of lawyer advertisements you know? Saying they'll fight on your behalf and shit. Anyway, I told my dad we could plea not guilty and fight it off with that(I called the place and made the plea anyway), but my dad said he just doesn't want points on his insurance, just pay the money and go with it. So I need advice, is it that beneficial to get a lawyer and do it? I don't know, I was thinking about just seeing the prosecutor... Anyone had a situation like this before? Oh and the thing he's charged with, I checked with the thing(In NJ, it's 4points on their driver's license).



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HeavOnEarth
Profile Blog Joined March 2008
United States7087 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-02-26 03:40:57
February 26 2009 03:40 GMT
#2
no but if your dad doesn't want to do it i imagine talking to him first is a good idea
at least make sure he's even going to get a lawyer if 100 people on the internet say its beneficial .

In other words make sure your dad isn't 100% hell-bent on paying it off.
"come korea next time... FXO house... 10 korean, 10 korean"
micronesia
Profile Blog Joined July 2006
United States24793 Posts
February 26 2009 03:42 GMT
#3
Er, do you mean the truck was making a wide right turn, but taking up the left lane in the process, so your dad crossed over the yellow line to pass the truck since the truck was moving slowly?
ModeratorThere are animal crackers for people and there are people crackers for animals.
Raithed
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
China7078 Posts
February 26 2009 03:42 GMT
#4
well i talked to my dad, he wants to like talk to the lawyer or whatever, but my question is can the lawyer reduce the points to zero?
Raithed
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
China7078 Posts
February 26 2009 03:45 GMT
#5
On February 26 2009 12:42 micronesia wrote:
Er, do you mean the truck was making a wide right turn, but taking up the left lane in the process, so your dad crossed over the yellow line to pass the truck since the truck was moving slowly?

the truck was going to the right and continuing to go straight. my dad crossed the line to get ahead of the truck and go a bit further and turn left.
CharlieMurphy
Profile Blog Joined March 2006
United States22895 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-02-26 04:01:20
February 26 2009 03:58 GMT
#6
draw a picture plz



|^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^\
| ---Hows my driving?--- | ||'""|""\__,_
| __________________ l ||__|__|___|)
|(@(@)""""""""""""""""**|(@)(@)***|(@)
..and then I would, ya know, check em'. (Aka SpoR)
Smorrie
Profile Blog Joined September 2002
Netherlands2944 Posts
February 26 2009 04:28 GMT
#7
1 word.. + Show Spoiler +
wut?
It has a strong technique, but it lacks oo.
Raithed
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
China7078 Posts
February 26 2009 04:46 GMT
#8
o_O what.
Cloud
Profile Blog Joined November 2004
Sexico5880 Posts
February 26 2009 05:19 GMT
#9
If youre getting that many offers, then this means its an easy case. Lawyers like to boost their % like this.
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Shymon
Profile Blog Joined February 2005
United States620 Posts
February 26 2009 05:26 GMT
#10
i think very little bad could happen except the cost of a lawyer while the upside would be a high probability of the case being dismissed. generally cops don't like having to justify themselves in court when the outcome is not 100% certain and they don't show alot of times, and other times a good lawyer will simply supeona (i am sure i spelled that wrong...) all the standard documents like the cops motor vehicle license, any notes he took, a copy of the offical report, etc etc. Alot of times a cop might forget 1 or 2 simply beacuse they are so rarely used, and this is an automatic dismissal as well. Then even if it goes before the judge and isn't thrown out beacuse of a no show or missing documents, then there is a good chance the judge will reduce or dismiss the charges.


So all in all i think getting cheap representation is probably a smart thing to do, it's not like you could ever make it any worse by doing so.
Raithed
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
China7078 Posts
February 26 2009 05:34 GMT
#11
On February 26 2009 14:19 Cloud wrote:
If youre getting that many offers, then this means its an easy case. Lawyers like to boost their % like this.

yeah when i had my shit, theres like 3letters this has... uh, what. 6?
il0seonpurpose
Profile Blog Joined January 2007
Korea (South)5638 Posts
February 26 2009 05:45 GMT
#12
On February 26 2009 12:58 CharlieMurphy wrote:
draw a picture plz



|^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^\
| ---Hows my driving?--- | ||'""|""\__,_
| __________________ l ||__|__|___|)
|(@(@)""""""""""""""""**|(@)(@)***|(@)



Holy crap nice drawing
GHOSTCLAW
Profile Blog Joined February 2008
United States17042 Posts
February 26 2009 05:51 GMT
#13
On February 26 2009 14:45 il0seonpurpose wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 26 2009 12:58 CharlieMurphy wrote:
draw a picture plz



|^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^\
| ---Hows my driving?--- | ||'""|""\__,_
| __________________ l ||__|__|___|)
|(@(@)""""""""""""""""**|(@)(@)***|(@)



Holy crap nice drawing


I'm hoping that he copied and pasted it- if he wrote it in this text box i'm going to feel really bad about my own ascii art.
PhotographerLiquipedia. Drop me a pm if you've got questions/need help.
Raithed
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
China7078 Posts
February 26 2009 06:10 GMT
#14
god damn whos the asshole who rated this a 1 i demand an answer.
gchan
Profile Joined October 2007
United States654 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-02-26 09:01:42
February 26 2009 08:56 GMT
#15
Firstly, how much is the ticket for? In California, it costs like $400 just to even take it to court. If you win, you get it back. If you lose, you pay ticket + $400. Thats why most traffic tickets, even if fightable, aren't challenged in court.

Secondly, you should explain your scenario better.

Thirdly, have you ever been to court? It takes at least half a day if not more. In a lot of counties here, it's first come first serve so you have to go line up in at like 630 am (they only take a certain number each day). That time standing in line (1.5h) + 4 hour in court (if you're lucky) eats up 6 hours your dad could have been at work. There's a huge opportunity cost to challenging a traffic ticket, so I'd probably say no from a purely monetary standpoint.

If you want to fight it because of the points, then it depends on the situation. Does your dad get tickets often? Can he traffic school away the points? Are there other implications for points in NJ aside from insurance?
Raithed
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
China7078 Posts
February 26 2009 09:36 GMT
#16
this is his first traffic ticket in 10+ years.
micronesia
Profile Blog Joined July 2006
United States24793 Posts
February 26 2009 11:43 GMT
#17
On February 26 2009 12:45 Raithed wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 26 2009 12:42 micronesia wrote:
Er, do you mean the truck was making a wide right turn, but taking up the left lane in the process, so your dad crossed over the yellow line to pass the truck since the truck was moving slowly?

the truck was going to the right and continuing to go straight. my dad crossed the line to get ahead of the truck and go a bit further and turn left.

This makes no sense you really should draw a picture lol
ModeratorThere are animal crackers for people and there are people crackers for animals.
QuanticHawk
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
United States32157 Posts
February 26 2009 12:49 GMT
#18
See the prosecutor yourself/himself. Lawyer isn't going to do anything that you can't do.
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Raithed
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
China7078 Posts
February 26 2009 20:53 GMT
#19
like this.

[image loading]
CharlieMurphy
Profile Blog Joined March 2006
United States22895 Posts
February 26 2009 21:05 GMT
#20
On February 27 2009 05:53 Raithed wrote:
like this.

[image loading]

ah, well yea the ticket is bad imo.

Technically there is never a reason to cross a double yellow, but in order to avoid an accident. That's questionable.
..and then I would, ya know, check em'. (Aka SpoR)
Raithed
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
China7078 Posts
February 26 2009 21:30 GMT
#21
so lawyer is the way to gogo?
mahnini
Profile Blog Joined October 2005
United States6862 Posts
February 26 2009 21:37 GMT
#22
youre not going to win wtf. you crossed a double yellow which means he was driving into incoming traffic. how can you fight that?
the world's a playground. you know that when you're a kid, but somewhere along the way everyone forgets it.
micronesia
Profile Blog Joined July 2006
United States24793 Posts
February 26 2009 22:43 GMT
#23
On February 26 2009 12:42 micronesia wrote:
Er, do you mean the truck was making a wide right turn, but taking up the left lane in the process, so your dad crossed over the yellow line to pass the truck since the truck was moving slowly?

On February 26 2009 12:45 Raithed wrote:
the truck was going to the right and continuing to go straight. my dad crossed the line to get ahead of the truck and go a bit further and turn left.

On February 26 2009 20:43 micronesia wrote:
This makes no sense you really should draw a picture lol

On February 27 2009 05:53 Raithed wrote:
like this.

[image loading]

Omg wtf. That's exactly what I described. Then you responded as though I wasn't right, but made no sense in the process. It's as though your goal was for me to not understand what happened until you finally drew the picture!

Anyway, in that case being ticketed for crossing over the double yellow line is understandable, but if it were a secluded area with little/no traffic then nobody would care.
ModeratorThere are animal crackers for people and there are people crackers for animals.
Insane Lane
Profile Blog Joined August 2008
United States397 Posts
February 27 2009 00:42 GMT
#24
Hmm could anybody explain in detail how this works? Like the lawyer is just there to help your case so that you can plead for less points? This is because I'm also facing a traffic ticket in NJ and plan on going to court soon for it
Raithed
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
China7078 Posts
February 28 2009 21:12 GMT
#25
so my dad contacted the lawyer, basically with all fees and everything, the cost would be $450 total, with no points.
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